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I have the third major chapter to be done by 16th January. 6,000 words written and 14,000 to write!
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Hazey*Jane
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I've just had a look at the previous Thesis Support Thread. Right near the beginning in Jan 2008 I posted:
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Who reckons they'll be finished by the end of 'Thesis Support 4'?
Personally I'm aiming for by the end of version 5.0. We'll see.
As it happens I ended up quitting that PhD, doing a Masters and now I'm in year 2 of another PhD. So maybe I'm still on target, although I really didn't think it would work out quite like this!
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My irony is that having gained my Ph.D during Version 4 I'm now going back to being an undergrad again - which means I may need gracious permission to enter these hallowed realms occasionally?
I am currently writing what I hope will be a publishable book, only tangentially related to my doctorate. Related indeed only insofar as I am writing in the style (of biblical hermeneutics) that I would have loved to use in the dissertaion but couldn't.
Go well, you brave souls! Kia kaha, they say in Māori: go with strenth. (If my new degree goes according to plan I may be able to say that in a Yolŋu laguage one day).
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I took the bait, Zappa. Thought I knew many of the terms associated with such studies. It sounds very interesting from either of two sites I found. Distance ed. from Banner Lady's environs or local?
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Hazey*Jane
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Originally posted by Gwai:
Jane, I noticed that when I was closing the old one. That's actually why I named this one version 5.0. ![[Biased]](wink.gif)
Do you mean.... I've been cited?!
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Aiming to have a complete 1st draft by 1st Sept.
Ack... now this in public realm, I may have to try and be accountable to the timeline! ![[Help]](graemlins/help.gif)
For all in writing up year, those in mid-thesis doldrums, and those just starting out: courage mon braves! ![[Smile]](smile.gif)
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A friend, J, has been forced to suspend her PhD because of serious health issues; and I am perfectly healthy, have no excuses and just faffing about doing far too little. I was talking to J about her PhD last night and felt ashamed of my lack of relish of my own. I need a sharp kick up the arse, to appreciate the sheer joy of PhD-dom.
And a ![[Votive]](graemlins/votive.gif) for J, who undergoes surgery next week.
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Jack the Lass
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A plea: on the last version of the thread someone (I think Jengie) posted a link to leechblock, the Firefox add-on to block access to websites at certain times of day. I have tried to install it (indeed I thought I had) but now can't figure out how to find it to actually instruct it which sites to block. Which is why I'm still here ( ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif) ). Can anyone help? I downloaded Zotero and that has a little icon thing in the bottom right hand corner of my screen, but I can't see how to get to leechblock at all.
One of my new year's post-PhD resolutions is to effectively tackle my procrastination. I probably could have done with it peri-PhD, but there we are.
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Jengie jon
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With Leechblock the instruction page by its creator should help. For those using Chrome, then Chrome Nanny.
I also find Pomodoro Technique useful. I find that concentrating for 25 mins then wasting five far more effective than trying to work non-stop.
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I use leechblock to limit my 'playtime' to five minutes each hour. I'll have a look for it one here and let you know.
I'm just re-writing the last part of my research proposal - MA in SpLD (Specific Learning Difficulties). I hope to have everything done and dusted by this time next year. We'll see!
I find this subject fascinating partly because I have two SpLDs of my very own. Dyslexia and ADHD - thus the need for leechblock and any other coping strategies which are going!
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Jack the Lass
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Thanks Jengie, I've got it now.
Actually I installed it, came back here to say thanks only to discover I had blocked the ship till 12.30 so couldn't I might have a PhD, but I really haven't got the sense I was born with!
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Of course there are ways round this as we have four laptops in the house.
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But, at least the laptop in my office where I do my work has my playtimes 'controlled' by leechblock.
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Ooh shiny new thread! I have some news, my first supervised PhD student graduated in November (ok, so I only supervised the last two years of her PhD), but I am so incredibly proud of her.
In other news, I'm off to download leechblock... such a clever idea!
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Jengie jon
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OK another supervision done. If you want to read more its largely on Thesis blog and I am now trying to sort myself out well enough so I can go to bed and sleep.
What scares me most is how much I rely on my supervisor, oh not for doing the work, but for picking up the weaknesses and getting me to address them. Also supervisions give me a timetable to work to. I like the structure and the standards my doctorate are setting but am worrying about how I will keep them up when my supervisor isn't there.
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Jack the Lass
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Well done Catrine, that's a very impressive milestone!
Jengie, I know what you mean about supervisors. I find that it is much easier to see someone else's wood for trees than it is your own (which is why I think I'm reasonably good at marking/peer reviewing etc but needed someone else to cast their eye over my thesis and point things out). Having said that, at the very end I had a lot of comments from my first supervisor about structure of my empirical chapters, but try as I might to put them into practice it just didn't/wouldn't work, so I put her comments to one side and worked it out myself, differently. I think that was one of the "yes I really am ready to submit now" moments.
In the next couple of months I am going to be writing more, hopefully for publishing in journals, and I am thinking it might be worth my while cultivating a handful of people (probably early(ish) career academics) who'd be willing to read over my drafts before I submit it for peer ravaging I mean review. I'm sure my supervisor would be happy enough to look things over, but she has earned her dues and I need to move on from relying on her.
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Jengie jon
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Another supervision dome but my supervisor seems to think I am still ahead of where I should be (some one must have forgot to send him the memo that said Part time doctorates are only six years long not eight).
Finding it interesting in that I seem at last to be sorting out what the core is to the thesis. Now all I have to do is got back over my recent writing and start to get it to fit together around the ideas.
Oh more on progress here
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Jante
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Working on an MA and my supervisor is on sabbatical until after Easter. I've just spent the day on research and tomoorw I must get back to the literature review. ![[Frown]](frown.gif)
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[Note to self] Argh...quit with the bright ideas already. Just write the bloody thing [/end of note]
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Originally posted by Jante:
Working on an MA and my supervisor is on sabbatical until after Easter. I've just spent the day on research and tomoorw I must get back to the literature review.
Me too.
I love the research - but the Literature review is a slog slog slog!
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I love the research - but the Literature review is a slog slog slog!
I agree - and I'm still trying to actually get motivated to do it!! However college holidays are coming up and then I plan to really go at it.
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Jengie jon
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Having just struggled with a very small literature review, you have my sympathies. My thesis has three small ones for three data chapters, the introductory will have several in and one chapter where specific area of the literature is the data (no that is not a literature review as the analytic method is reader response).
However Pat Thomson of Patter suggests getting out the coloured crayons.
I have a number of blogs I follow simply to act as advisers while I write. Patter is one. Thesis Whisperer is another.
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Yesterday I was so excited and enthralled by what I was researching that I couldn't tear myself away, but sat up into the wee small hours, reading Victorian newspapers online, till my eyes lost focus and my neck cricked. Alas, none of it is entirely relevant to the PhD, but another of the distractions my supervisor has been warning me about. Apparently I have to abandon the "Ooh! Shiny!" approach to research.
Still, I can share the joy of it with you guys.
Also, I now have the plot for a third novel! If I ever get round to writing:
Novel One (Set in Victorian Aberdeen, this is a gripping tale of burning ambition as Isabella works her way up from croft house to the dizzying heights of the teaching profession!)
Novel Two (Set in Victorian Aberdeen this is a heart wrenching tale of love and loss, as schoolteacher Bessie falls passionately in love with one of her colleagues!)
I now have the outline of Novel Three (Set in Victorian Aberdeen, schoolteacher Christian reads Das Kapital and knows she has found her life's meaning! Meanwhile, her elder brother does not share her love of the common people, or her dreams of world peace, but seeks wordly advancement and serious money by...um...becoming a clergyman!")
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Jengie jon
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Well another supervision down, supervisor did what I wanted him to, pick out the wood from the trees. I need now to show the forrest that is there and not just each twig on a series of oak trees.
As to literature review, speak quietly but I am afraid I can not help. I use literature, lots of it, but I am afraid my thesis won't have a chapter called literature review*. My sources are too ill contained to fit neatly into that. I even made myself do one in my third year, and it just persuaded me that this was not going to work. I will however admit that the art seems to be what to leave out.
Jengie
*Alternatively I will have several small literature reviews.
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Jengie jon
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For those struugling with literature reviews then Literature Review HQ maybe a useful resource. It sounds as if its written by someone who has been there and knows the pain.
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NEQ quote:
Apparently I have to abandon the "Ooh! Shiny!" approach to research.
It's so unfair, isn't NEQ? My supervisor is of the same opinion. Spoilsports, they are.
Thoughts for my novel coming along nicely - but only the one so far! Set in 16th c Scotland, in the Canongate. The gripping tale of Marjorie the murderess. Attacked by a man intent on taking her honour, Marjorie fights him off and inadvertently stabs him to death.... In the throes of attempting to avert execution, will Marjorie find peace and love amidst the turmoil of her life?
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Originally posted by North East Quine:
Apparently I have to abandon the "Ooh! Shiny!" approach to research.
Or else compile an exhaustive literature search on taxonomies of shine used by other researchers in the field from which you abstract a set of words and phrases used to describe shininess in this community of discourse, then suggest a quantification of shininess, propose a hypothesis relating shininess to squee-factor, and test it by a meta-analysis of the literature, which you can publish as a short paper broadly confirming your hypothesis and ending with a plea for more research.
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Jengie jon
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Zappa
I have not done a degree because I wanted a degree for a couple of decades. I normally do degrees because I want the knowledge a degree brings.
That said I was at a supervision yesterday, it went well thank you. My assessment of where I am at and my supervisors are pretty much the same. One of the questions was whether I was on target. I said I thought at different times everything from way behind to slightly ahead but at present pretty much where I should be. When we discussed my imagined timetable he agreed that we were pretty spot on. I suspect the angst on his part was caused by another student of his who plans to submit on Friday at the latest. This is cutting it very fine as the last date she can in Monday. So anyone here feeling like praying that M is able to concentrate and get on with the writing please do.
More info on the blog in my sig.
Jengie
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Qoheleth.
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Hi you clever people,
Is there yet an accepted convention for Harvard referencing scholarly books by Kindle 'location' without page numbers?
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I thought not. I'll have to make a library visit to a paper copy - tiresome when you're a distance learner.
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Jengie jon
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Originally posted by Qoheleth.:
Hi you clever people,
Is there yet an accepted convention for Harvard referencing scholarly books by Kindle 'location' without page numbers?
Qoheleth
Don't know if you are aware of this, however you should reference the precise edition you used. I have in this PDF found the following quote
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E-books often lack page numbers (though PDF versions may have them). If page numbers are not available on ebook readers, use the chapters instead for indicating the location of a quoted section:
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Qoheleth.
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Thanks Jengie,
It appears that my source hasn't yet been paginated by Amazon, so I'll see how the markers react to the e-book example. I think that the author will actually be the first marker, so he may be sufficiently flattered. ![[Razz]](tongue.gif)
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Jengie jon
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You do need to state it is a Kindle edition.
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Zappa
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Originally posted by Jengie Jon:
Zappa
I have not done a degree because I wanted a degree for a couple of decades. I normally do degrees because I want the knowledge a degree brings.
Knowledges in this case, as the presupposition is that western-based knowledge systems are not applicable to aboriginal culture(s). Which, yes, is why I'm doing it.
But the degree is called a B.I.L.L. ... I refuse, if I complete it, ever to put that after my name!
Incidentally my new institutions likes kindle references to be by chapter and paragraph number!
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Jengie jon
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Zappa
When they named the school my department is in there was an argument about whether it should be:
The School of Philosopy, Religion and Theology or the department of philosophies, Religions and Theologies. You can check out who won. There is also an interesting debate going on in ethnography of Religion about whether Religion is defined by a Western Masculine centricity of thought even within the West. There is rather an interesting paper on Strategic and Tacticle religion which picks up some of these themes. Even my thesis tends to be more tactile in her terms, now is that because I am a woman or because I am an ethnographer or both.
My supervision was yesterday and I am beginning to see things fitting into place. Anyway I am getting close to the real half way mark and will see my self as making real progress. Thesis writing is hard work but it is also exciting, why does nobody tell you it is exciting? More again on my thesis blog.
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Originally posted by Jante:
MA dissertation completed and handed in
Well done!!
*jealous jealous*
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Jengie jon
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Well done.
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Jengie jon
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Well done.
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Good for you, Jante!
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Caty S.
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*cracks knuckles determinedly and makes a proper start on Masters dissertation*
ETA:
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Well done, Jante!
I have wasted the last hour looking at bizarre websites including one which claims that the Rev Andrew Murray is the fourth greatest African of all times (David Livingstone came first, Nelson Mandela eighth, the "courageous and principled" Ian Smith came 10th and Desmond Tutu 23rd.) Andrew Murray's cousins were Scottish schoolmistresses, which is how I stumbled on these websites, but I knew that nothing productive to my PhD was ever going to come out of clicking on websites with "rapture" in their names.
I need focus. And a slap from a wet fish.
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NEQ - that website made me feel physically nauseous.
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