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Curiosity killed ...
Ship's Mug
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The Thursday evening Ascension Day service here is followed by the Team AGM in the church. The church is part of a Team and this allows the Team AGM follow on from the Annual Parish Council Meetings of the individual churches as they all have to happen in April. It makes for a three line whip on the attendance on all the Team Committees, incoming and outgoing, which are a mixture of laity and clergy. I have no idea what the attendance was like this year because I was in Scotland, but it's usually around 30-40, no choir although choir members attend, sermon and communion service.
But this is a church that has evening services on Monday to Thursday of Holy Week and a 2pm service on Good Friday, the other team churches usually only have Good Friday services.
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Bishops Finger
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Ascension Day (along with the Epiphany, if it should fall on a weekday) seems to me to be a Good Opportunity to get a group of local parishes together for a joint service. It may take a bit of organising/three-line-whipping, but worth it, nevertheless, if it gets a few people out of their usual pews/churches, and worshipping together, no?
Ian J.
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Fr Weber
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Originally posted by leo:
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Originally posted by Zappa:
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Originally posted by Olaf:
Heh...I've long given up expecting clergy to do their job.
I've never made a hell call, but this steers me close. I think I'll have a cup of coffee instead.
I try to avoid Hell so I'll say it here:
For some, this is stating 'the bleedin' obvious' but many denizens of Ecclesiantics are living in the past.
Eh, but so what?
The Mass is still the Mass. If only one person shows up, it is still worth doing.
If clergy are in the church, they can certainly manage to take 25 minutes twice a day out of their schedule of meetings or whatever they're doing to say the Office. In the church.
They're priests, damn it.
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Hooker's Trick
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I was at a cathedral church in the Grim North upon Ascension Day where the service was celebrated with great aplomb (started later than was advertised, but hey-ho) with a very healthy congregation and possibly more incense than I have ever experienced in my life. Ever. Good hymns, too.
There had been a conference in the cathedral during the day which no doubt swelled the numbers (possibly somewhat unused to the smells) but the "quire congregation" which I took to be regulars were not insubstantial. For England. For a Thursday.
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Zappa
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Originally posted by Fr Weber:
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Originally posted by leo:
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Originally posted by Zappa:
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Originally posted by Olaf:
Heh...I've long given up expecting clergy to do their job.
I've never made a hell call, but this steers me close. I think I'll have a cup of coffee instead.
I try to avoid Hell so I'll say it here:
For some, this is stating 'the bleedin' obvious' but many denizens of Ecclesiantics are living in the past.
Eh, but so what?
The Mass is still the Mass. If only one person shows up, it is still worth doing.
If clergy are in the church, they can certainly manage to take 25 minutes twice a day out of their schedule of meetings or whatever they're doing to say the Office. In the church.
They're priests, damn it.
The office, yes. But under Anglican rubrics they cannot say Mass without at least one other person present.
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Fr Weber
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Originally posted by Zappa:
The office, yes. But under Anglican rubrics they cannot say Mass without at least one other person present.
Sure. Which is why I said, when referring to Mass, "if only one person shows up." ![[Smile]](smile.gif)
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Chorister
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Ascension Day was very popular with the younger, fitter members of the church when I was a child, because they got to climb up to the top of the church tower and out onto the roof, to sing. I guess health and safety would have a fit these days.
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Lothlorien
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Originally posted by Chorister:
Ascension Day was very popular with the younger, fitter members of the church when I was a child, because they got to climb up to the top of the church tower and out onto the roof, to sing. I guess health and safety would have a fit these days.
At a camp for primary children a pulley system was used to hoist a child up to the roof (no ceiling) of the building. Said child, dressed as Jesus, was actually wrapped in a sheet which became entangled in the pulleys and ropes halfway up. He remained dangling there while a ladder long enough to reach him was found
Definitely not H&S friendly these days.
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Originally posted by Chorister:
Ascension Day was very popular with the younger, fitter members of the church when I was a child, because they got to climb up to the top of the church tower and out onto the roof, to sing.
... and then dropping their teddies down by Parachute? ![[Devil]](graemlins/devil.gif)
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Curiosity killed ...
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Snigger, I used to run the pram service on a Thursday, and used a helium balloon to ascend Jesus into the roof of the church on Ascension Day. One time I was distracted when tying the balloon to a table leg before running the crafty bit of the session and one of the toddlers released it. So we had several weeks of a balloon sitting in the roof before it deflated and descended. I did rather hope it would descend for Pentecost, but it lasted a bit longer than that. Long enough for one of the church wardens to get itchy fingers with an air gun to help it on its way down. He had to be dissuaded from doing so regularly as it would have damaged the roof too badly.
Unfortunately, all I did was giggle when I saw it for the weeks it remained aloft. And I got banned from doing it again (not that it stopped me, I just made sure I wasn't distracted at the wrong moment the next time).
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Jude
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I spoke upthread of our vicar's more pressing engagement than Ascension Day service. It was his/her birthday - shhh. don't tell!
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Jude
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Besides not celebrating the Ascension, that church, which is the leading church of the town, did not celebrate Pentecost last Sunday. ![[Confused]](confused.gif)
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GCabot
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Originally posted by Jude:
Besides not celebrating the Ascension, that church, which is the leading church of the town, did not celebrate Pentecost last Sunday.
Okay, I am at a loss. Even the non-denominational, evangelical church that I was raised in had a special observation for Pentecost.
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Albertus
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Originally posted by Jude:
Besides not celebrating the Ascension, that church, which is the leading church of the town, did not celebrate Pentecost last Sunday.
In that case, and bearing in mind that the Vicar put his birthday ahead of Ascension Day, sod all that eirenic stuff upthread about raising the matter tactfully and sensitively with him. This is an office holder failing to carry out the basic duties which might be reasonably expected of him. As (I think) l'organist suggested, a sharp letter to the Archdeacon, copied to the Bishop, is called for.
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seasick
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We have a long-standing principle in Ecclesiantics that we do not use this board to discuss the internal affairs of particular parishes. By all means discuss the general provision of worship on Ascension Day (or even by extension other holy days) but it is not appropriate for us to be conducting some sort of investigation into the liturgical practice of Jude's vicar or his/her parish.
seasick, Eccles host
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Albertus
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Thanks, seasick, received and understood, although something in this line was raised earlier and IIRC went unchallenged- hence my thinking it was OK.
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seasick
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There's always a hostly judgement to make about whether we let something go or whether we call it. We let it go the first time but now it's resurfaced it gets called.
You should also be aware that any comments on host posts ought to be done in the Styx not on the thread in question.
As you were.
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Albertus
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Not commenting on your hosting at all, Seasick. Absolutely take your point about judgements to be made.
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