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Albertus
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Originally posted by Piglet:
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On Commonwealth Sunday we have a wonderful display down the two aisles of flags of all the Commonwealth countries.
Now I do like the sound of that
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IMHO there is no place in church for an over-head projector. Ever.
Quite. As I've said before, in a proper church there's no place to put a screen, because the rood screen/ reredos/ Royal Arms/ English Altar/ Set Fawr/ huge central pulpit/ iconostasis/ mercy seat (delete according to tradition and churchmanship) would get in the way.
[Edit: UBB was getting to me]
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SvitlanaV2
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In a 'proper church'???
It would be more appropriate to say 'in a historical church building' or something of that sort.
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Albertus
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I'll concede as far as 'in a proper church building', then- of any vintage.
[ 24. October 2014, 20:37: Message edited by: Albertus ]
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SvitlanaV2
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Is a 'proper church' simply a dedicated church building? If so, there are many of recent construction that could make space for a screen if they wanted one.
The architectural characteristics that you mentioned in your previous post won't all be present in many churches. Not even in a historical denomination.
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L'organist
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The trouble with large central screens is that they can become the focus of worship...
Or as a child who attends my local church ( ![[Ultra confused]](graemlins/confused2.gif) ) commented : at our church we sing funny songs and pray to a big TV.
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Heavenly Anarchist
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I really can't comprehend how screens can become a focus of worship. They show a page, just like in a book.
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Albertus
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Originally posted by SvitlanaV2:
Is a 'proper church' simply a dedicated church building? If so, there are many of recent construction that could make space for a screen if they wanted one.
The architectural characteristics that you mentioned in your previous post won't all be present in many churches. Not even in a historical denomination.
Well of course they won't all be present in what I quite unapologetically call a proper church building. In fact I would say very confidently that there is no church building in the world which contains all of the things that I have mentioned, unless someone somewhere knows of a Welsh Baptist sect within Orthodoxy which follows the Sarum Rite... And there might be proper church buildings which contain none of these things- one thinks, for example, of the kind of in-the-round church a la St Paul's Bow Common, which I rather like. There might be a great big East window or a space deliberately left blank. But otherwise I stand by my statement.
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Heavenly Anarchist
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My church building is a warehouse that we bought with our own money. I'm sure we'd all love to meet in a beautiful historic building but we only started to form a congregation here 20 years ago so have inherited no such building or ancient furnishings. Our congregation now numbers around 400 and I'm quite certain we would not be able to find or afford a fancy building, medieval or modern, in central Cambridge that is big enough to host our services and community outreach, provide an office for several staff and have meeting rooms for a Sunday school with 72 children. A warehouse really is the most practical and affordable option for us, ours even comes with an old foreman's house for an office. Even then we don't all fit in and the older children are in a portacabin.
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SvitlanaV2
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Originally posted by Albertus:
But otherwise I stand by my statement.
You're free to do so. But only you seem to understand what you mean!
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Albertus
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Possibly. But of course just because you don't seem to understand what I mean, it doesn't necessarily mean that nobody else does. ![[Biased]](wink.gif)
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SvitlanaV2
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I accept that others may be better mind-readers than I am.
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I noticed the 13-year-old boy sitting in front of me taking notes a few weeks ago. And yes, I could read what he was writing, and it was definitely notes on the sermon.
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I am sorry to report that when I write during the sermon it is usually not notes. Something about lectures or sermons is curiously conducive to fiction.
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DangerousDeacon
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One of the more interesting display of flags is in St John's Cathedral in Hong Kong. The old colonial regimental flags laid up there (the Queen's Colour, of course, is a Union Jack with appropriate symbol in the middle); this I can understand. But also hanging in full view is a full size Union Flag and the old colonial flag for Hong Kong - blue ensign, Union Jack, colonial coat of arms. It is a startling political symbol to have in Hong Kong outside of a museum.
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Originally posted by DangerousDeacon:
It is a startling political symbol to have in Hong Kong outside of a museum.
Indeed! is my reaction to that one, even if the attitude of the Communist authorities towards Christians hardly inspires confidence either...
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L'organist
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The 'flags' in the side chapel of St John's Cathedral are: the laid-up colours of HK defence regiments/detachments, specifically those at the time of the Japanese invasion plus the Union flag and Hong Kong flag from the same period. The same chapel also has memorial books for those people - military and, I think, civilian - who died during the invasion and occupation, which was a pretty harrowing time.
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