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I make no claim to be a film nerd; Gone with the Wind is one of the few films mentioned in this thread that I have actually seen! But MrP is a member of the BFI and gaps in my education are being filled; this month we are intending to see It's a Wonderful Life and The Prime of Miss Jean Brodie, neither of which I have seen yet.

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OOh, I loved The Prime of Miss Jean Brodie. I envy your first encounter with it.

I agree that Fanny and Alexander was kind of a drag. The mother was such a stand in for an actress, for one thing. [Roll Eyes]

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I've never seen Casablanca, but I've heard so much about it that I probably don't need to see it. I also haven't bothered with the Lord of the Rings films as I disliked the books and so have given the films a miss. Same issues wth the Harry Potter series.

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Originally posted by bib:
I've never seen Casablanca, but I've heard so much about it that I probably don't need to see it.

***Splutter***

Seriously - hearing about it and seeing it are totally different things. My all time favourite film.

I'm shocked! Shocked, I tell you...

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Originally posted by Timothy the Obscure:
I have seen GWTW. It was a waste of God knows how many minutes. I have never seen "Citizen Kane." I keep meaning to, but nothing I have ever read about it gives me much reason to believe it would be that interesting. May be it's the spoiler effect--I know what Rosebud is.

GWTW suffers from the "beloved novel mapped faithfully into film". It still has moments, but the rip your eyes out early Technicolor doesn't make up for the embarrassing racism.

Citizen Kane is spectacular for the way the story is told. As for Rosebud, the film doesn't till you what it really meant. The film was a fictionalized and cruel biography of Hearst, at that time one of the most powerful men in America. Rosebud was the pet name he gave to Marion Davies intimate parts. Using it in the film for something else was close to career suicide by he writer and director. But the film still has amazing shots in it that describe decades. For example the collapse of a marriage in 3 shots.

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quote:
Originally posted by bib:
I've never seen Casablanca, but I've heard so much about it that I probably don't need to see it. I also haven't bothered with the Lord of the Rings films as I disliked the books and so have given the films a miss. Same issues wth the Harry Potter series.

Er, no, you really do need to see Casablanca, it is as good as it is supposed to be. Citizen Kane, on the other hand....

Like Oscar I'm shocked, shocked. But also maybe at heart I'm a sentimentalist...

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I haven't seen any of the Star Wars films in their entirety with the exception of the first one to have been released.

I've seen bits and pieces of some of the others because my seven year old enjoys them.

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Originally posted by Paul.:
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Originally posted by lilBuddha:
Will people please cease mentioning Avatar on this thread?
Seriously, not because I think it is rubbish, but that it appears on no Great Cinema lists.

Ahem (though I agree it's not a "great" movie merely a popular one)

Browsing that list reminded me of Downfall. Tried to watch it twice. First time fell asleep shortly after that scene. Second time didn't make it that far.

Someone should do a parody video. "Paul finds out that he fell asleep during Downfall again."
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Another person who has never seen GWTW or Titanic. I've not seen much Kubrick either. No 2001, The Shining or A Clockwork Orange etc.

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Casablanca is the story of two noble, brave men who are both in love with the same wishy-washy woman who has no mind of her own.
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To branch off into a new category, Films We THOUGHT We'd Never See, I just stumbled upon the notorious mondo Faces Of Death on YouTube, and have gotten about halfway through.

Pretty much the laughable piece of pseudo-intellectualism that I had been led to expect, though the narrator's redemptive philosophizing is probably not as hokey as it could have been. It sounds like something written by a precocious high-school student.

Granted, when a narrator who is supposed to be a trained pathologist refers to "the country of Africa", you know you're not watching Ken Burns.

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Not a great film (how would I know) but I've never managed to stay awake for the whole of Brigadoon - does that count.

Likewise, never managed a whole Star Wars film - any of them.

Casablanca does have some yawn moments but you really need to see it just for Dooley Wilson singing As time goes by.

The Hollywood version of War & Peace is a turkey I've managed to avoid but I've fond memories of the Russian version, directed by Sergei Bondarchuk, which used to be shown overnight in two 3 hour chunks (with breakfast afterwards) at the Screen on the Hill in Belsize Park in the 1970s.

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Someone mentioned John Ford and westerns earlier. I have seen only two films by Ford, The Grapes Of Wrath and The Last Hurrah, neither of which are westerns.

And, prior to watching High Noon a few months back, I had never seen a proper western. By which I mean, I had seen Spaghetti Westerns, Sam Peckinpah westerns, Butch Cassidy And The Sundance Kid, and Unforgiven, but I don't think those really count as having seen a western.

And isn't High Noon itself considered somewhat "revisionist"? I guess, never having seen any other authentic westerns, I don't know what the criteria really is.

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Another who's never seen Gone With The Wind through. There's a ton of silent greats I've yet to see, including Metropolis and Battleship Potemkin, let alone that behemoth Napoléon.

"Great" is way subjective in any case: Citizen Kane is a technical masterpiece, but I find the plot ("dime-store Freud," in Welles' own words) tedious. How it keeps getting voted "greatest film ever" is a mystery to me.

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quote:
Originally posted by Twilight:
Casablanca is the story of two noble, brave men who are both in love with the same wishy-washy woman who has no mind of her own.

And one of the men is a rather dull, pompous prig. But the other is Bogie, so that more than makes up for it. And then there's Claude Rains, Sydney Greenstreet, Peter Lorre...

(BTW - I've just discovered that Claude Rains was born in LONDON. Damn! All this time, I actually thought he WAS French.)

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Wow, am I the only one who liked Avatar? (The blue cat people one; I haven't seen the live-action version of the Avatar the Last Airbender animated series.)

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Originally posted by ChastMastr:
Wow, am I the only one who liked Avatar? (The blue cat people one; I haven't seen the live-action version of the Avatar the Last Airbender animated series.)

No - I liked it too.

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I enjoyed the technology. best use of 3D in a movie to date. Visually some parts were stunning. But the plot and the writing? Horrid. There is a story that Cameron began writing the script when he was ~ 15. Sure feels like it could be true.

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Avatar has some stunning 3D but I agree that the story sucks. After a tribe is nearly wiped out, and their home nearly destroyed, the important thing on their minds is a proper funeral ceremony for the noble "white" friend.

Casablanca has wonderful moments. It's a bit clanging to hear Ingrid Bergman refer to Sam as "your boy" but racism has left a lot of films embarrassing.

The story is that the Bogart part was originally offered to Ronald Reagan. Everything's for the best in this best of all possible worlds.

People keep mentioning films I like which puts me in a fond mood. There are a whole bunch of pretentious films that were Oscar nominees, but even there, I can find a bunch I like.

I still haven't seen "Shoah", "The Sorrow and The Pity" or a whole bunch of other Holocaust Documentaries. It's just too painful.

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I thought Avatar was worthwhile but not outstanding. I think the trouble is whenever anything gets trumpeted as ‘best film of all time, evar’, you’re setting yourself up for disappointment. Inception had the same effect on me. It was a good film, but couldn’t live up to the hype of being the greatest film ever that it got when it was released.

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I've seen Shoa but only because a friend has it on DVD and we could stop and start. Not just for the sake of physical comfort but also to have a breather from so much harrowing testimony.

IMO the film should be shown in all secondary schools in the UK, no exceptions. Sure, break it into smaller segments, but it should be seen by every British child before the age of 16.

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Some of us used to do exactly that before Michael Gove marginalised RE and cut our time.

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quote:
Originally posted by la vie en rouge:
I thought Avatar was worthwhile but not outstanding. I think the trouble is whenever anything gets trumpeted as ‘best film of all time, evar’, you’re setting yourself up for disappointment. Inception had the same effect on me. It was a good film, but couldn’t live up to the hype of being the greatest film ever that it got when it was released.

This is a good point. Factors exterior to the film itself can colour our experience.
Though, I saw Avatar early, before much hype. I thought the same of it as i do now from the moment the end titles began to roll.

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quote:
Originally posted by Byron:
... that behemoth Napoléon.

Oh wow, I saw extracts years ago, and the glories of that film have stayed with me. One day I shall manage to obtain the whole thing [Smile] .

I am another who couldn't stomach Avatar, nor sit through Titanic, which was a complete yawnarama. Though I did like GWTW when I saw it.

Though not a great movie, my last nomination is on nearly every Christmas. Therefore, I confess that my name is Pine Marten and I have never seen The Great Escape.

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I've never seen Titanic, and I worked in a cinema when it came out. I consider that something of an achievement.

[A side note: people would always report the loos not working after Titanic - everyone would come out of the screen and go together, and the poor system couldn't fill up again fast enough....]

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You mean Albertus and I (with the partial exception of L'Organist) are the only people on this ship who have never seen Star Wars?

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quote:
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You mean Albertus and I (with the partial exception of L'Organist) are the only people on this ship who have never seen Star Wars?

I watched it for the first time a few weeks ago.Brilliant.

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I've never seen, Pretty Woman, even after about twenty people told me I would love it because it was a Cinderella story.
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Correction-- it's a Cinder-fucking-Rella story.

You missed nothing.

(Actually I take it back-- Laura San Giacomo was the best thing about that flick.)

[ 11. December 2014, 00:38: Message edited by: Kelly Alves ]

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quote:
Originally posted by Pine Marten:
quote:
Originally posted by Byron:
... that behemoth Napoléon.

Oh wow, I saw extracts years ago, and the glories of that film have stayed with me. One day I shall manage to obtain the whole thing [Smile] .

I saw Napoleon at the 5,000 seat Wang center with a 60 piece Symphony Orchestra playing an score by Carmine Coppola and conducted by him. That was 30 years ago. It was worthwhile, but it would feel like a comedown to watch it on DVD.
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quote:
Originally posted by Pine Marten:
I confess that my name is Pine Marten and I have never seen The Great Escape.

How is that even possible?

Well -it's sure to be on this Christmas somewhere. Take the opportunity to sit down with a good drink and some nibbles and sit back and relax. Pure escapism!

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quote:
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Therefore, I confess that my name is Pine Marten and I have never seen The Great Escape.

Everybody whistle the theme at him, right now.

[ 11. December 2014, 04:43: Message edited by: Kelly Alves ]

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quote:
Originally posted by ChastMastr:
Wow, am I the only one who liked Avatar? (The blue cat people one; I haven't seen the live-action version of the Avatar the Last Airbender animated series.)

Don't bother with the live action Last Airbender, it's a pile of crap.

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quote:
Originally posted by Angloid:
You mean Albertus and I (with the partial exception of L'Organist) are the only people on this ship who have never seen Star Wars?

[Disappointed]
Really?!

I'm shocked, just shocked, I tell you. [Paranoid]

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Originally posted by Pine Marten:
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Originally posted by Byron:
... that behemoth Napoléon.

Oh wow, I saw extracts years ago, and the glories of that film have stayed with me. One day I shall manage to obtain the whole thing [Smile] .

I saw Napoleon at the 5,000 seat Wang center with a 60 piece Symphony Orchestra playing an score by Carmine Coppola and conducted by him. That was 30 years ago. It was worthwhile, but it would feel like a comedown to watch it on DVD.
How wonderful [Smile] ... [is there an 'envious' smilie?]

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Originally posted by Pine Marten:
I confess that my name is Pine Marten and I have never seen The Great Escape.

How is that even possible?

Well -it's sure to be on this Christmas somewhere. Take the opportunity to sit down with a good drink and some nibbles and sit back and relax. Pure escapism!

Ah, now that sounds good!

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quote:
Originally posted by Pine Marten:
Therefore, I confess that my name is Pine Marten and I have never seen The Great Escape.

Everybody whistle the theme at him, right now.
Ahem - everybody whistle at her, if you please! [Big Grin]

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I never got where this idea of The Great Escape being on at Christmas came from. Growing up, it was never on then. It was always one of the Indiana Jones movies when I was growing up. Recently, it's been Pirates of the Caribbean that has plagued the Christmas schedules. That, and the smirk-inducing-but-quickly-tiresome Shrek and its sequels.

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quote:
Originally posted by Tubbs:
Another person who has never seen GWTW or Titanic. I've not seen much Kubrick either. No 2001, The Shining or A Clockwork Orange etc.

2001 was flipping awful. Really, really dull. My beau and I watched it when we were courting, and I was too polite to tell him that my brain was dying.

A previous boyfriend took me to see the director's cut of Apocalypse Now at the cinema. Not a good date movie...

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I've never seen Apocalypse Now -won't- Deer Hunter won't watch it again, GWtW -zzzz- 2001 soporific! But I really liked Mona Lisa and a far better and classic (violent though) movie than Godfather/s is the Long Good Friday or The Usual Suspects.
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Earwig wrote:

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A previous boyfriend took me to see the director's cut of Apocalypse Now at the cinema. Not a good date movie...


Indeed. I like the film quite a bit, but even I'll admit that it's a sprawling, operatic mess. I can't see it as being much of a mood-setter on a date, especially the DC with all that long-winded philosophizing on the plantation about French Vs. American imperialism.

Full Metal Jacket, on the other hand, does have some interesting gender thematics and symbolism, which might provide a bit of conversational fodder for couples wanting something a bit weightier than the standard RomCom fare, and who can handle extreme racism and vulgarity.

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quote:
Originally posted by Twilight:
I've never seen, Pretty Woman, even after about twenty people told me I would love it because it was a Cinderella story.

Watching Pretty Woman with a small group of female friends, a couple of bottles of wine (or more) and a large bar of chocolate (or 2 or 3...) can be a real fun way to spend an evening. Especially if you have been out first and are not entirely sober to start with.

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Originally posted by Sipech:
I never got where this idea of The Great Escape being on at Christmas came from. Growing up, it was never on then. It was always one of the Indiana Jones movies when I was growing up. Recently, it's been Pirates of the Caribbean that has plagued the Christmas schedules. That, and the smirk-inducing-but-quickly-tiresome Shrek and its sequels.

It was the Sound of Music and the Wizard of Oz in my younger days. Every single sodding Christmas, and I hated both of them. Still do.
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Originally posted by Sipech:
I never got where this idea of The Great Escape being on at Christmas came from. Growing up, it was never on then.

It came from the late 60's and through the 70's. For many years, it was regarded as the ideal blockbuster movie - a mixture of Hollywood stars and steadfast British acting talent; comedy, tragedy and heroism all coming together; and it was still acceptable to regard the Germans with a certain amount of contempt.

If you grew up in that period, it was pretty much a Christmas tradition that as soon as you got your Christmas Special edition of the Radio Times (other TV magazines are available), with its two whole weeks of TV programmes to drool over and highlight, one of the first things you did was find out when exactly the Great Escape was being shown. Most likely, it would be Boxing Day afternoon.

I think I am right in saying that The Beeb had the rights to this film and ITV (the only other option back then) generally avoided a direct confrontation and so would show something pretty harmless at that time. Pretty much the same way that, for a while, they made no pretence of trying to go head to head with the Morecambe and Wise Christmas Special.

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Chicken Run is more fun though ...

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Ariel:
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It was the Sound of Music and the Wizard of Oz in my younger days. Every single sodding Christmas, and I hated both of them. Still do.
Same here. AND I had to feign enthusiasm the Christmas my parents-in-law got me the Wizard of Oz on video...

Chicken Run is more fun than The Great Escape, but it's funnier if you've seen The Great Escape (and various other WWII PoW films) first.

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Originally posted by Twilight:
I've never seen, Pretty Woman, even after about twenty people told me I would love it because it was a Cinderella story.

It's only my deep respect for the Hosts and Admins that prevented me from opening a sockpuppet account with the user name of "Pretty Woman" and announcing that I have never seen "Twilight".

Actually, I saw half of it with the Missus under the misapprehension that as part Vampire movie and part chick-flick it might work for both of us. We were both underwhelmed and gave it up as a bad job. Henceforth, it was derisively referred to as 'Twiglet'.

Years later I was driving home from an engagement in a nearby visit when the fog of all fogs descended upon me and I wound my way carefully through deserted country roads. On getting into town I saw hordes of young women with pale faces who clearly looked like they had been necking with Nosferatu. I expected Christoper Lee to loom out of the night at any second. Until I drove past the cinema and realised that it was the opening night of the last film of the Twiglet saga.

Yes, I should get out more. As Dean Winchester would say: Bite me!

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quote:
Originally posted by Callan:
quote:
Originally posted by Twilight:
I've never seen, Pretty Woman, even after about twenty people told me I would love it because it was a Cinderella story.

It's only my deep respect for the Hosts and Admins that prevented me from opening a sockpuppet account with the user name of "Pretty Woman" and announcing that I have never seen "Twilight".


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Now, now, Albertus.

There again... [Eek!]

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The Sound of Music.

I've probably seen most of it, in fragments, but never actually properly. This is now such a thing between me, Mrs Snags and some friends that I actively resist all attempts to trick me into watching it.

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quote:
Originally posted by Earwig:
2001 was flipping awful. Really, really dull. My beau and I watched it when we were courting, and I was too polite to tell him that my brain was dying.

Did you see it in he cinema though? It's a different film on the big screen. Slow, yes but the pictures....space..spaaace!!!! (and music - I could watch the "space ballet" scenes on a loop).

Anyone in Britain - it's just been re-released, so go see it the way it should be seen (anyone elsewhere, pray that a cinema near it will get it paws on a copy anyway!)

One great film I have not seen and do not intend to is Alien. This is not because I don't believe it's good - quite the contrary, I am worried it might be too good for my nerves to cope...

Casablanca on the other hand I avoided for ages because I'm not particularly into romance. The I gave it a go anyway, and found it was a superb thriller as well.

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