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Lothlorien
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We are so appreciative of and thankful for all the prayers for her. So many places worldwide have her on prayer lists. Thank you.
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we are meeting in Adelaide, from the evening of Thu 30 July to the morning of Tue 4 Aug 2015.
Could be fun ... there's eight of us discussing whether we'll gatecrash or not ... leaning towards yes at the moment. Though I wish you'd picked somewhere warmer than Adelaide in August!
It'll probably be warmer than your new habitat!
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DangerousDeacon
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we are meeting in Adelaide, from the evening of Thu 30 July to the morning of Tue 4 Aug 2015.
Could be fun ... there's eight of us discussing whether we'll gatecrash or not ... leaning towards yes at the moment. Though I wish you'd picked somewhere warmer than Adelaide in August!
It'll probably be warmer than your new habitat!
You could wait until the Australian Deans' Conference in 2016, which is scheduled for Townsville! I can drive to that, it is only 2,500 km to our nearest neighbouring Cathedral.
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Gee D
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What is the name for a collection of deans? A decantation? An installation?
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Welease Woderwick
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A Disaster of Deans has a nice ring to it.
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Piglet
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A Disaster of Deans has a nice ring to it.
That depends very much on which ones you're talking about.
How about a deviation? ![[Devil]](graemlins/devil.gif)
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Banner Lady
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Given how many of them appreciate a good celebration I would think a Degastation of Deans might be more appropriate. Not sure if that spelling is correct, but you know what I mean...
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A denouement of deans might end it.
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Zappa
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Humph. DD, I think we need to take up arms against these aspidistrae (Fred Dagg-ese for aspersions) cast at our good character!
Hmmm: Current Temp Adelaide: 15° Current Temperature at the Leading Edge? 4°. You have a point, Rexory (not greatly tempered by the fact that Adelaide is 2 1/2 hours behind us: ours was only 6° even then).
Townsville sounds great!
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Clarence
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FD suggests a duodenum of deans ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif)
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Originally posted by Clarence:
FD suggests a duodenum of deans
Surely that's only two deans - DD & Zappa?
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You mean there are more?
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Gee D
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Thank you one and all for your suggestions. My recollection is that FD's dislike was archdeacons, not deans, but duodenum is good. If we take BL's dégustation a step or 2 along, it could become a disgust of deans (the feeling inspired by the prices of the dégustation menus). But all good, and no aspersions on anyone's character.
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DangerousDeacon
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At the Deans' Conference, a Decorum of Deans was suggested.
But we finally settled on a Decanter of Deans.
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Gee D
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Originally posted by DangerousDeacon:
At the Deans' Conference, a Decorum of Deans was suggested.
But we finally settled on a Decanter of Deans.
Not far from my decantation, and certainly with the same thoughts in mind. I added the consequences of too much recurse to the decanter.
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DangerousDeacon
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Originally posted by rexory:
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Originally posted by Clarence:
FD suggests a duodenum of deans
Surely that's only two deans - DD & Zappa?
I think most people of the opinion that one Dean in a Diocese is more than enough. Now, if we could only apply that to Bishops ... ![[Snigger]](graemlins/snigger.gif)
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Piglet
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... one Dean in a Diocese is more than enough. Now, if we could only apply that to Bishops ...
Belfast Cathedral, where we were before we came here, has two Bishops: it's not a Diocesan cathedral, but more a civic one. When Belfast was given city status in the early 1900s they decided they ought to have a cathedral, so they built one.
Half of the city is in the Diocese of Connor and half in the Diocese of Down and Dromore, so there is a cathedra for each bishop, Connor taking precedence because the cathedral is in that diocese.
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Clarence
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Originally posted by Gee D:
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Originally posted by DangerousDeacon:
At the Deans' Conference, a Decorum of Deans was suggested.
But we finally settled on a Decanter of Deans.
Not far from my decantation, and certainly with the same thoughts in mind. I added the consequences of too much recurse to the decanter.
I'm sure Zappa would approve, of the decanting at least ![[Biased]](wink.gif)
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Gee D
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Are they seated together, like William and Mary?
Madame came with me to a wintry Canberra Emli, so we both missed your Feast of Title - hope all went well. We are comfortably ensconced in a serviced apartment, and about to head over the road for yet another delicious dinner.
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In a Melbourne hotel.... Tomorrow I begin a week in a much warmer part of the nation- Brisbane. Family baptisms, much love and laughter. Not long, but long enough to be happy therein.
And warm.
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Piglet
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Are they seated together, like William and Mary?
One on either side of the Chancel - the Connor one on the Decani side where you'd expect the cathedra to be, and the Down and Dromore one facing it on the Cantoris side. IIRC the Connor one is slightly more ornate.
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DangerousDeacon
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Yesterday, in a dry 30 degree heat in Arnhem Land at the ordination of an Aboriginal man to the Diaconate. Today, after a six hour drive back to Darwin and two flights south, overcast and cold in Melbourne, for the inauguration of the new Primate. Different views of both Church and Australia.
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James the Confident
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Yes, they're making a monkey out of our Archbishop!
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Gee D
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Well Zappa, how did the date go? Did he ask you in for a coffee/nightcap after dinner? And did he wear a purple shirt?
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Galloping Granny
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Well Zappa, how did the date go? Did he ask you in for a coffee/nightcap after dinner? And did he wear a purple shirt?
And did he wear shoes?
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Well Zappa, how did the date go? Did he ask you in for a coffee/nightcap after dinner? And did he wear a purple shirt?
++++Justin did good - I think it was him in the distance - and prought a fine sermon (with a strangely nasal delivery). He wore a black stock, which surprised me - rochet and chimere of course for the liturgy. The liturgy was a bit of a showcase - how many middle-aged ordained women can you squeeze into key roles in a single evensong? - all the music and prayers were of A/NZ or Pacific origin though I think the bible readings came from books of Hebrew and Greek origin. Maybe. There was barely a young person to be seen, though a few gathered around a different Justin.
The other Justin, +Justin Wellington, couldn't be arsed joining his brother and sister bishops so sat in scruffy hoody, purple short (collar done up, for once) and jandals (thongs) in the congregation. Later he was asked to say grace and he made a quick preamble about how he couldn't be arsed joining his brother and sister bishops ... ![[Roll Eyes]](rolleyes.gif) . I am not a fan. He then prayed a rambling grace which eventually mentioned the food.
The food was great and I met a few nice people. The best part was the drive there and back and two days out of the office. Welby was good though (just wish it had been Williams).
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Red face – got my Justins mixed up. Comes of living in a hole at the ends of the earth.
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Gee D
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You're not alone in your wish about Williams. The right man at the right time, but so many who weren't could not see that.
Any idea why he wore a black stock? ++ Sydney wears purple. And as for +Wellington I wonder how many from synod now have bumper stickers: Don't blame me, I voted for X.
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Thanks to everyone who wished us well for our 2014 Feast of Title - it went splendidly: even the sun came out of hiding at the right time. The church was considered 'full' in that it was at about 80% capacity. At times the incense shrouded the church in a veil of heavenly smoke. The sermon was uplifting, challenging all to be part of a community of care and nurture, without being obsessed by the corporate nature of business which seems to dominate so many parish council meetings.
The singing by St. Alban's choir and organist Chris Wagstaff was uplifting ('Magnificat' by Turle, 'Ave Verum Corpus' by Mozart, and 'Deck my soul with gladness' for the sermon meditation); harpist John Coombs soulful rendition of 'Hail Mary' during the Angelus and other pieces before and during the service was just sublime.
Then to cap it all off - a superb hot and cold buffet: homemade sausage rolls; scones with real cream (as in not dairy whip); smoked salmon puffs; arancini; cupcakes; sandwiches, etc. - all served with liberal does of bubbly, plunger coffee and tea.
I'd be only too happy to send a copy of the liturgy to anyone interested.
Please put a note in your diaries of the 16th August 2015 which will be our next FoT: more details as they come to hand. Maybe someone would like to do a Mystery Worshipper report on it?
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Gee D
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And ++ Rowan was a good and saintly man as well. Many here miss him as well.
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Lothlorien
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Miss M and her big sister are here for the weekend. She is now on a maintenance dose which is a bit messy as it involves various medications at various times and frequencies. However, she feels a lot better than with the last big chemo session.
She burst through my door last night so excited the words tumbled out all over the place. She had been at school all day. That's the third time this year and the first full day. She still looks somewhat like Michelin Man from the last lot of steroids but not as badly and the moonfaced look is subsiding too.
I was asked to say grace at dinner time so I added a bit of thankfulness for her improvement and promptly burst into tears at the table.
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I don't think anyone would blame you for that, Loth - delighted to hear Miss M's doing so well, and long may it continue!
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DangerousDeacon
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Back in Darwin after the inauguration of our new Primate, and straight in to the Darwin Festival. We are hosting a talk tonight by Dr Christine Fejo-King, who is a Larrakia woman and elder, speaking about the Intervention. Should be interesting. Then on Sunday night at the Botanic Gardens Amphitheatre, under tropical skies the life and music of Gurrumul.
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Huia
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Loth - Grandmothers are allowed to do that. So glad she is doing well.
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Gee D
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Thank you for sharing that news with us Lothlorien. An as Huia says, you're allowed a little cry or 2, because it's very good news indeed (I know that there will be hard days ahead).
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Back in Darwin after the inauguration of our new Primate, and straight in to the Darwin Festival. We are hosting a talk tonight by Dr Christine Fejo-King, who is a Larrakia woman and elder, speaking about the Intervention. Should be interesting. Then on Sunday night at the Botanic Gardens Amphitheatre, under tropical skies the life and music of Gurrumul.
Sorry, skipped over this. Can someone give me some background or a link about the Intervention please?
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Thanks for the link to the "Intervention" Zappa. Yes, complex, messy and controversial.
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The statistics and stories that prompted the intervention were shocking, particularly in relation to child abuse. To anyone's knowledge, has there been any progress in this regard since the stats were gathered, either as a result of the intervention or subsequent polcies/initiatives.
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The Grandad is scheduled for surgery on Thursday, for a rather scary operation to put a mesh under the skin right across the belly where there is currently a hernia the size of a football. 6-8 hours in theatre and then ten days at least in hospital (that is if nothing happens to postpone the procedure) followed no doubt by fairly lengthy recuperation, and all prayers are welcomed. I'm a bit nervous myself!
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Gee D
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Prayers from us to you and the Granddad GG. Does all this happen closer to home than the last admission? Is it common in NZ for people to have an operation and then go to a rehab hospital? This seems now to be the usual course here and takes a lot of burden from the one at home.
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Gee D
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And GG:
There was an old man with a hernia
Who said to his doctor:"Goldernia,
When fixing my middle
Please do not fiddle
With matters that do not concern ya."
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