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Banner Lady
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Led an ecumenical devotional service this morning. In the Anglican calendar we are remembering the Martyrs of New Guinea, one of whom (a nurse from Canberra Hospital), has a stained glass window dedicated to her in the oldest Anglican church in the National Capitol.
But it prompted me to look up how many martyrs there were across all Christian denominations and of the 400, about half were catholic, 2 dozen Lutheran and a dozen C of E. We read the bracing speech of the Rt Rev Phillip Strong to those facing invasion, and it did make me wonder if such a speech would ever be likely to be spoken out these days. Somehow, I doubt it very much, but it did all in the nursing home a power of good to hear such a wonderful exhortation to stay firmly fixed on Christ, come what may.
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Gee D
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Thank you, Banner Lady for taking that service. An acquaintance of my father and his brothers was one of those martyred this day 72 years ago. My father is now the only survivor of that group of friends, and it's a hard day for him. There is a chapel dedicated to them in an Anglican Church not all that far - about 20 minutes drive - from here.
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Galloping Granny
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The Grandad came home yesterday and is making great progress. Doesn't being back in one's own home have a powerful healing effect! Our thanks for all who supported us in prayer.
GG
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Gee D
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Great news GG - but I hope you're getting plenty of support also.
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Huia
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YaY for the Grandad being home. Hospitals are Ok if you have to be there, but nothing matches sleeping in your own bed.
I'm just trying to calm myself down. I was sitting at my computer listening to the news (loudly because I didn't have my hearing aids in)and I looked up and there was a strange young man in my kitchen with a can of beer in his hand. I screamed and he asked if this was a neighbouring street. Apparently I had left the door open and "I did knock." I calmly escorted him to the door giving directions to the street he had mentioned, then fell apart.
I have now locked all four doors and shut all the windows except the one Georgie uses which can only be opened a little way. Bloody plumbers have disconnected the taps, so I can't have a bubble bath, which would be my chosen way of dealing with it, so I'm taking a happy pills and going to bed with a book.
Actually the day had been so bad I shouldn't have got up to start with. Not sure I'll bother until after lunch tomorrow.
Bugger, the painter just rang and he will be here at 9.30 am - I might just go to Willowbank (local wildlfe centre) and visit the kiwi and pukeko instead - if I'm really lucky I might get to see the baby Asian Otter .
Huia
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Welease Woderwick
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What a horrible experience, Huia!
Deep breaths and count to three - or three million!
Well done for keeping your calm at least a little bit though perhaps a loud scream wouldn't have been inappropriate - you could always do that now into a pillow just to get it out.
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Gee D
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That was truly horrible for you Huia. Do you think you should notify the police?
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DangerousDeacon
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Sadly, a common phenomena. One of the worse things in my life is dealing with the mentally ill (which I suspect this young man may have been). Every other day someone comes to the Cathedral or into the office who is simply not rational. Often they are unaware of the alarm they give to others through their erratic or threatening behaviour.
And worse again, there is bugger all you can do, apart from give them some food and send them on their way, and if they are threatening, calling the police.
Huia for the mentally ill for all those trying to make sense of the mentally ill
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Alan Cresswell
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A quick question from a total newbie to this thread (obviously, not a newbie to the Ship!). Since where I'm now living is closer to the Pacific than any other sea or ocean ... is this the right thread? Or, does being the wrong side of the equator count me out as not sufficiently Antipodean?
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Uncle Pete
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Gee, if that were the case, Wodders wouldn't have any place to post at all!
You are in a happy state. Still Scottish and still temporarily a UK citizen. Pacifica is your closest geographically. And you can still post on English and Scottish threads.
Lucky you.
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Arabella Purity Winterbottom
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Glad you're OK Huia, that would have given me the screaming heebies.
And I don't think he would have had to be mentally ill. We've just had to put a trespass order on a group of people from the road behind us using our place as a right-of-way to get to the bus stop. We've never met them before, as there's no natural access - they have to jump the fence (and presumably go through someone else's property to do so).
If they'd asked first, we would have said yes, but I got a hell of a fright when I was hanging out the washing and was accosted. When I asked what they thought they were doing, they told me they'd been walking through our place for the last 3 years without any problems. They got quite shirty with me when I said I wanted them to stop, so I involved the police.
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Moo
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quote: Originally posted by Alan Cresswell: A quick question from a total newbie to this thread (obviously, not a newbie to the Ship!). Since where I'm now living is closer to the Pacific than any other sea or ocean ... is this the right thread? Or, does being the wrong side of the equator count me out as not sufficiently Antipodean?
piglet, who lives in Canada, routinely posts on the British thread.
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Barnabas Aus
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BL, re martyrs, are you just referring to martyrs in the CofE or across the communion? Taking into account Bishop Patteson and the seven Melanesian Brothers, that province has eight alone, then the Martyrs of New Guinea take that total to nineteen in our region alone.
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Gee D
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quote: Originally posted by Barnabas Aus: BL, re martyrs, are you just referring to martyrs in the CofE or across the communion? Taking into account Bishop Patteson and the seven Melanesian Brothers, that province has eight alone, then the Martyrs of New Guinea take that total to nineteen in our region alone.
And extending that forward, there was the Oz missionary and his 2 young sons burnt to death by Hindu extremists as they slept in their camper van.
I have seen figures that suggest that there were about 20,000 Christians martyred in the Roman Empire over the 280 or so years before Constantine's conversion. I'm not downplaying the great example they are, but that number is but a small proportion of those martyred in the twentieth century.
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Banner Lady
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Specifically the C of E martyrs 1942 in PNG - my point being that actually there were many Christians from many denominations who were killed for staying in PNG during WW2.
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Evangeline
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Oh what an horrific experience Huia, glad it all turned out ok but I would be an absolute nervous wreck if a strange guy turned up in my kitchen. Defintely take some time to chill out & recover after that.
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Barnabas Aus
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Thanks BL, on re-reading your original post that becomes clearer.
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Zappa
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quote: Originally posted by Gee D: extending that forward, there was the Oz missionary and his 2 young sons burnt to death by Hindu extremists as they slept in their camper van.
The Staines family - I mention them in my book - and now James Foley, to whom I think I would extend martyrdom as he saw his journalist fights for truth as an extension of his catholic faith ...
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Evensong
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quote: Originally posted by Alan Cresswell: A quick question from a total newbie to this thread (obviously, not a newbie to the Ship!). Since where I'm now living is closer to the Pacific than any other sea or ocean ... is this the right thread? Or, does being the wrong side of the equator count me out as not sufficiently Antipodean?
We could just count you as from the wrong side of the tracks.
Hope you're settling in well to your new place! Are you in China?
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Marama
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quote: Originally posted by Banner Lady: Specifically the C of E martyrs 1942 in PNG - my point being that actually there were many Christians from many denominations who were killed for staying in PNG during WW2.
Indeed. There were also those missionaries from Rabaul who were made POWs, boarded the 'Montevideo Maru' and were then torpedoed and all killed. That group included Methodist missionaries and I think some Catholics. Details in Margaret Reeson's "Whereabouts Unknown'- which I have lent to our minister and so cannot check right now.
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Gee D
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My recollection is that the missionaries were Methodists. You'd know the details better than I, but my understanding is that PNG was de facto divided into Anglican, RC and Methodist areas, with New Britain and the neighbouring areas of the main island being Methodist. Just as we think of Bp Patteson as being a martyr, although his murderers were mistaken as to his purpose (and of course, he did receive his 5 wounds) it would be correct to think of these missionaries and their families as being martyrs also.
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gustava
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You're in Japan aren't you Alan? Which part?
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Jengie jon
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I think if you can read the from box at the bottom of his post it will tell you. Unfortunately, my (non-existent) Japanese is not up to it.
Jengie
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Firenze
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quote: Originally posted by Jengie Jon: I think if you can read the from box at the bottom of his post it will tell you. Unfortunately, my (non-existent) Japanese is not up to it.
Jengie
Google Translate is, though.
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Jengie jon
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Totally different point but a friend has posted this magazine on Facebook and I think some here may appreciate it.
This is one of those small world experiences. I am realising that not only did she have a URC connection but I may well have known a fellow school mate of hers. Guess what that, friend is a Church of Ireland cleric.
Jengie [ 07. September 2014, 15:21: Message edited by: Jengie Jon ]
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gustava
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quote: quote: Originally posted by Jengie Jon: I think if you can read the from box at the bottom of his post it will tell you. Unfortunately, my (non-existent) Japanese is not up to it. ....
Google Translate is, though.
You're both right - Fukushima. I was in Fukui for a bit but never made to Fukushima.
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Lothlorien
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Miss 12, Miss M's older sister broke both arms a few months ago within a week. She has now fallen at school. X-rays can't yet tell if patella is broken or ligament has been ripped from the back of the patella. She is on crutches with a brace waiting for swelling to go down.
Their mother had to juggle one in oncology clinic, the other in ER and x-ray etc. [ 08. September 2014, 07:42: Message edited by: Lothlorien ]
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Alan Cresswell
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The "From" field isn't really big enough to do justice to kanji. But, yes that over dense collections of lines is "Fukushima". I suppose I should be thankful this antique software allows me to use it at all!
Alan-sensei
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Banner Lady
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Dear Lord, Loth - I can only imagine the stress levels involved for you all. May this too pass. And please may there be unexpected graces in the passing.
My youngest grandchild is 4 months old and is experiencing her fourth cold, and that is enough to make me sad for her and her mum. No parent ever wants to see their children or children's children suffering.
On the plus side, I spent the weekend helping to clean out B1's little country house ready to sell. B4 got the keys to her new duplex yesterday. So will be moving B4's goods and chattels out of our house today, ready to store the rest of B1's! (groan)
As it looks like B1 will be moving out of her asbestos affected digs in the near future, and B3 will be moving from Victoria back to this city in 2 months time, I imagine things are going to get worse before they get better in terms of us being the transit hub.
BL. A passing mother. [ 08. September 2014, 20:51: Message edited by: Banner Lady ]
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Barnabas Aus
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I feel your pain BL. Although we no longer have in transit children, we do have young relatives as occasional guests.
However, we are drowning in the possessions of others. All of our kids have left something behind as they scattered to all points of the compass, and we are now attempting to clear out and dispose of my late mother-in-law's house. Our downstairs rumpus room and garage bear a strong resemblance to the set of Steptoe and Son, with narrow passageways through piles of Stuff[tm].
Now the weather is warming up, I'm hoping Mrs BA will summon up the courage to assault the task, as she has to make the decisions. I don't dare interfere!
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Piglet
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quote: Originally posted by Moo: ... piglet, who lives in Canada, routinely posts on the British thread.
I'm a Scot-in-exile, and post on the Scottish, British and Canadian threads, and if I can think of anything worth saying when I'm reading as a host I'll post on this one and the American one too.
Loth, sorry to hear about Miss 12 - she's not having the best of luck, is she?
for her, and continuing for Miss M.
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Mr Curly
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Loth and family
Had a day in Canberra yesterday, looks like more trips down there doing a consulting gig.
Family life, as with others, is chaotic. Active/disorganized teenagers and 2 serious ill relies is taking its toll on Mrs C in particular, esp with prospect of a few weeks of full time work for me, much of it in Canberra.
Middle is going to the dr tomorrow having self-diagnosed with OCD, while Biggest will hopefully scrape through his 8 th grade piano exam earlier in the day.
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Lothlorien
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Thanks, Mr C. She's tired from manoeuvring crutches.
Hope the day goes well for your sons with good outcomes for both.
Been there and done that with ill family. It's very wearing. Take help when offered and try to get some time apart every day, especially your wife.
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Gee D
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Not an easy time Mr Curly, and you have our thoughts and prayers.
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Mr Curly
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quote: Originally posted by Gee D: Not an easy time Mr Curly, and you have our thoughts and prayers.
Thanks all. Will not be going to Canberra tomorrow/Friday as planned, but will work remotely for client while my co-worker goes down. Just being around at home will help (Middle and me).
Had a catch up this afternoon with the guy at Wesley who sponsored our Easter project, and as we prayed the necessity to stay home came through as an answer to that prayer loud and clear.
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Huia
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Good to hear and Christchurch put on a lovely day too. Not up to your preferred temperatures I know, but the closest we've had since last summer.
I would like to have been there, but don't cope well with crowds. I'll just have to buy the wonderful sound system I was looking at yesterday.
Huia
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Tukai
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Spotted an echidna today enjoying his lunch on top of an ant-heap in a nature reserve on the edge of Canberra suburbia (the Pinnacle for those who know Canberra). First I'd seen in the wild in years.
(Echidnas are spiny ant-eaters for those who don't know.)
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Lothlorien
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quote: Spotted an echidna today
We had one in our garden at Killara which used to come out on hot days and poodle around in a drunken gait around the place.
We also had bandicoots and there is a colony of them over the line from where we were.
Don't mention the noisy possums!
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Huia
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Yay - the Regional have been swamped with submissions regarding their desire to close a local bus route. Said bus is one that goes over to the Port and the local Port workers have made their displeasure known (this is the one I catch to the branch library so I was not looking forward to it being withdrawn).
Also the signs of rebuilding are more obvious.
On the other hand, I am so fed up with the election (next Saturady) I want to make a badge that says, Don't vote, it only encourages them
When I rule the world they will all be up against the wall
Huia - dictator-in-waiting
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Welease Woderwick
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Somebody I know on Facebook, might even have been a shipmate, put a cartoon up the other day where a little boy says to his father:
- Dad, I've decided I want to have a life of crime.
Father replies:
- Government or Private Sector?
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Zappa
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quote: Originally posted by Huia: Good to hear and Christchurch put on a lovely day too. Not up to your preferred temperatures I know, but the closest we've had since last summer.
Well in fact the Wednesday when I flew down was ambivalent - after 55 minutes circling the Nearby Peninsular waiting for fog to clear the pilot gave up on minimum fuel and headed (ridge-hopping) for a sunny provincial city further up the island. I sat there for six hours ... and made it to the concert with not a lot of time to spare and blood pressure somewhere near Vesuvius.
But the morning I flew out was a stunner. Maybe I'll move south one day!
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Huia
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Yeah, that sea mist is a killer sometimes. When my older brother and I were brought here as kids Mum took us to the beach. When the mist rolled in we ran in different directions, with poor Mum trying to work out where to go first..
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Galloping Granny
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quote: Originally posted by Huia: On the other hand, I am so fed up with the election (next Saturady) I want to make a badge that says, Don't vote, it only encourages them
When I rule the world they will all be up against the wall
Me fed up too. I scored a letter to the DomPost yesterday complaining that politicians aren't mentioning climate change as if to say "it isn't really here yet and when it does happen we'll cope with it". Duh. So who's representing New Zealand on 23 September, at the United Nations summit on climate change?
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Marama
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We were in NZ during the last election - and thought it was conducted in an exemplary manner; all crammed into 3 weeks after the world cup, then it was over. Very envious. But it sounds as though this one has dragged on in the normal manner.
There's another election in the region this week, in Fiji on Wednesday. First time to the polls for about a third of the population since the voting age has dropped too from 21 to 18, and there have been no elections for 8 years.
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Lothlorien
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Miss M was here for the weekend. She is very excited as she is on oral maintenance chemo now. She has the faintest little fuzz of hair growing back and that is exciting too to her.
Big sister has probably cracked patella and it is displaced. She has a massive brace which puts patella in place and holds it there. Worn day and night. It will be adjusted in two weeks.
She is not excited. She has no end date in sight, brace is uncomfortable and she is on crutches. No walking without them. Usuall a sunny temperament but it was stormy over the weekend. [ 15. September 2014, 08:54: Message edited by: Lothlorien ]
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Arabella Purity Winterbottom
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Grumpy or not, she needs the brace! Been there, done that, when I was 14. Spent nearly a year in and out of plaster (no fancy braces then). It didn't help my cricket career.
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Huia
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Marama, that's because the World Cup was far more important than any election could ever be
The Fiji election sounds interesting. I have heard a radio programme about it, but as far as most of the news media goes the headline grabbing antics of various candidates here obliterates anything happening in the rest of the world.
Huia
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Lothlorien
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quote: Originally posted by Arabella Purity Winterbottom: Grumpy or not, she needs the brace! Been there, done that, when I was 14. Spent nearly a year in and out of plaster (no fancy braces then). It didn't help my cricket career.
Arabella, I do think she understands that she needs it, it seems like the last straw in a bad year for her and everything caught up with her. Poor kid , she is just twelve and has had a lot to deal with,
Plaster must have been terrible for so long. At least her brace is more ventilated. Thigh to ankle, five adjustable straps and two knobs for pressure and direction of patella.
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