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Loth, ongoing prayers for Miss M and her big sister. I know life isn't fair, but when I read of their vicissitudes I just want to scream, "Enough!"
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It's been great to work everyday this week - * 'll even get paid and everything. But * 'm EXHAUSTED.
Half a day working tomorrow, then playing cricket on Saturday with Middle, then doing a trivia night for the soccer club.
Would welcome any good trivia question suggestions.
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*ell Fiji has voted and the result looks pretty clear-cut (and actually almost e*actly *hat * *as predicting). But some are complaining. Perhaps there are some irregularities, but the multi-national observers seemed pretty *****. *e'll see...
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Today marks the hundred and twenty-first anniversary of women's suffrage in NZ, ![[Yipee]](graemlins/spin.gif) so * 'm wearing a white camelia, which is the symbol the suffragists used.
* will vote tomorrow, which is election day, though many people have taken the opportunity to vote early.
With all the accusations, and counter accusations this has been a contentious time, but at least no one has thrown a dead cat at any candidates, which my Aunty told me happened in a election in the 1930s ![[Eek!]](eek.gif)
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We voted last Monday. There is less and less to choose between the major parties. * know who * 'd like to throw a dead cat at but * 'm too polite – * 'd never do it.
The Seven Days programme tonight was a good laugh, though, with Colin Craig and Peter Dunne doing 'This is my picture' and David Shearer and Te Ururoa Flavell singing about the week's news.
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There was a steady stream of voters at the library on Thursday and Friday. Some of the early voting in ChCh was because there were rumours of snow today - which there may be - at seven hundred metres above sea level. Whatever the reason, having easily accessible early voting facilities is a good idea. Shall toddle off to the school round the road to vote when the temperature heats up a little.
Know what you mean about people worthy of having a dead cat flung GG, but my aim is bad and Georgie-Porgy wouldn't be a willing sacrifice. On the other hand there is that grey cat who skulks around our place...
Huia - musing whether Gareth Morgan would approve of this use of cats.
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Gee D
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Crap spouted by Zappa:
Synod today and tomorrow, so this little perpendicular pronoun will be voting often, he suspects. This little perpendicular pronoun voted in the civic elections on Thursday. It's kinda sweet and simple in NZ, compared to the Australian paper war.
* shall avoid the obvious comment.
Our local council showed a real interest in democracy this week. There are 6 Liberal Party councillors, forming a solid voting block which dominates the council. Informal discussions showed that these councillors would vote out their present leader, who is the mayor, and elect a 23 year old. A brave step, but that's what they wanted. The pre-council meeting of the party to choose the candidate was fixed for 5.30 pm. Come the hour, only the mayor and a loyal supporter were present. They held the caucus and chose the mayor as candidate. 3 minutes later, the others arrived and wanted to choose the young man. Madam Mayor, as she likes to be called, said "Too late. * 'm chosen and under caucus rules you must now vote for me or you're thrown out of the Liberal Party". So they went into the council meeting and voted for her. Perhaps the most brilliant example of Stalinism in action since the lights went out at an ALP meeting in Leichhardt.
And remember the old adage - vote early, vote often and vote for the dead.
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Perhaps it's time for a sequel to Rats in the Ranks,Gee D?
* read about that event but can remember rumblings from when we lived in that council area a few years ago.
Just discovered H and A day applies to the formatting option of italics. The perpendicular pronoun is obliterated so film title doesn't show
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Arabella Purity Winterbottom
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Voted - love seeing the community out doing something together. Was there at the same time as the local disabled support house and was very impressed to hear their carers explaining what to do. There had clearly been some prior discussion.
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Huia
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Agree about the community atmosphere Arabella. My electorate has had a boundary change, so is marginal and the electorate MP isn't on the party list, so it's make or break for her.
Election night is the only time my TV watching is assured, though we may have to wait to see what the shape of the Government will be.
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Huia
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No change in Government, no change in my electorate MP, who has her personal following, despite the Party vote for the electorate going the other way by a huge majority. Why did I stay up so late? ![[Snore]](graemlins/snore.gif)
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Any NZ shippies - did the Internet party ever have any legs to it, or was it just something a few journalists pushed a bit? Given the quality of the journalism here and assuming it was no higher there, I'd have suspected the latter.
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Huia
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Purely my opinion;
I think there might have been a possibilty as they aligned with Mana, a party that had a sitting MP, Hone Harawira in one of the Maori seats. If he had won his seat and they had reached 1.4% of the Party vote then they would have had 2 MPs in. Hone has a large following in the North. In the end the seat went to Labour, (possibily because of the intervention of the leader of NZ First, who announced his backing for the Labour candidate).
This is the short answer and leaves out a whole lot of stuff that doesn't really belong in All Saints, but if you PM me I'll fill in more details.
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Thanks Huia, that very nicely works things out for me.
Another week's work about to start. Madame and I have been unable so far to work out how to deal with her business, so no retirement at the end of this year for us.
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Originally posted by Huia:
Purely my opinion;
I think there might have been a possibilty as they aligned with Mana, a party that had a sitting MP, Hone Harawira in one of the Maori seats. If he had won his seat and they had reached 1.4% of the Party vote then they would have had 2 MPs in. Hone has a large following in the North. In the end the seat went to Labour, (possibily because of the intervention of the leader of NZ First, who announced his backing for the Labour candidate).
This is the short answer and leaves out a whole lot of stuff that doesn't really belong in All Saints, but if you PM me I'll fill in more details.
Huia
Hone might have been returned if Mana hadn't got aligned with teh Internet Party. We were sorry to see him go, as we have enormous respect for him. In fact the large Mr Dotcom realised he'd poisoned Hone's chances, publicly admitted it and apologised handsomely. Those of us who'd got over Dotcom in a big way had to respect his attitude at this point.
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Yes I hope Hone can come back from this. I think it's a pity he got involved with Dotcom whose motives were less straightforward.
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Yes I hope Hone can come back from this. I think it's a pity he got involved with Dotcom whose motives were less straightforward.
Very much the impression here also.
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This morning Mana, (Hone's party) are saying it wasn't a mistake to ally with the Internet Party.
We live in interesting, if confusing times, but it keeps the political analysts and pollsters employed. ![[Roll Eyes]](rolleyes.gif)
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Two political figures always make me think of the Vicar of Bray (okay, Google it if you've never sung it) – Laila Harre and Peter Dunne. Which has belonged t the greater number of different parties?
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Arabella Purity Winterbottom
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Peter Dunne has stayed in Parliament for a very long time by blowing with the wind (and for his truly astounding hair). I think he wins hands down.
I used to like Laila Harre a lot back when she was Alliance, but this election she was weird, very weird. I don't know if any other NZ shippies saw anything of the Moment of Truth, but her final speech was heading into strange territory, and it was at that point I knew the IMP weren't going to be winning votes.
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Arabella - thanks for saying that. I liked her when she was part of the Alliance, and later when she was talking about social justice issues, but at the moment of truth night she almost might have been a different person. I thought surely I couldn't have supported this woman, what was I thinking?
Peter Dunne's hair is almost a character in its own right, and arguably more interesting than the head on which it's growing. I once heard of a male first time voter who voted for him on the basis of the hair, because they thought it meant he had progressive views
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Nice to see so much coverage of the NZ elections on the ABC. Maybe Aunty has finally woken up to how many Kiwis are in Oz.
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NZ election got a guernsey on John Oliver too.
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There always seems to be heaps over here on the West Coast. Throw an Anzac biscuit in any direction, and you'll probably hit one.
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Are they getting as far away from the shaky isles as possible, then.
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I once heard of a male first time voter who voted for him on the basis of the hair, because they thought it meant he had progressive views
Actually, to be fair to him, when I used to volunteer for Women's Refuge, he always signed up to collect for us in July: he'd toddle down from Parliament and spend a couple of hours shaking a bucket with us. He was the only politician I ever saw doing it, so he gets kudos for it.
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I didn't know that. I do know a gay friend clashed badly with him when he lived in Wellington many years ago. It just goes to show people are multi-dimensional.
I've also heard he is a good electorate MP.
After having problemes being connected to Vodaphone (leading to posts in Hell) I switched on Tuesday only to find the actual computer was having its own meltdown. Thank goodness for Sarah and the local computer trouble shooters, who fixed it. The downside is that i need a new computer. ![[Waterworks]](graemlins/bawling.gif)
The thought of sorting it all out made me want to lie down in a darkened room with a cold cloth draped over my forehead, but the technicians will do all the techie bits and switch over what needs to be switched. (Yes, I do know some people will say "Anyone can do it" but I value what little remains of my sanity to even attempt it.)
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I don't care what flavour politician you are, or which part of the political spectrum feels like home to you, I just want to say loudly and clearly that I would like to live in a world where dealing with VIOLENCE AGAINST ANYONE is more important than the issue of what the feck they choose to wear.
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Agreed, I wish all Australians would stand together against violence. there is no justification for violence in Australia.
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I don't care what flavour politician you are, or which part of the political spectrum feels like home to you, I just want to say loudly and clearly that I would like to live in a world where dealing with VIOLENCE AGAINST ANYONE is more important than the issue of what the feck they choose to wear.
Having collected for Women's Refuge, Rape Crisis and Amnesty International, I take your point and apologise if I seem to take this lightly.
At least collecting for Amnesty (in NZ at least) doesn't attract threats of personal, physical violence.
On the other hand both the quick snatches of conversation and the silent emptying of purses by women when collecting for the other two causes speak for themselves.
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We have reached a milestone. Back at the beginning of January, this milestone was many miles away indeed as Miss M was so very ill.
Tomorrow she turns 10. She is bright and chirpy and very much better than after the last big chemo... She has almost two years left on maintenance doses if all goes well.
She is having a party in a park and has had fun planning it. Around 20 children and close to the same with adults. Decorations have gone on invitations, food chosen,, games picked out.
Her goal of having central line removed by birthday has not happened. On January 1, the need for it was desperate and another child was removed from theatre list for her. Removal is now considered elective surgery and those in NSW know what that means. To me, if it means another child is getting needed treatment, than that's OK.
Thank you for the support, prayers, good wishes and more which have come from all over the world. We are very appreciative.
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Good news Loth and may Miss M have a very happy birthday tomorrow and many happy returns.
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Party time. This is such good news Loth. I hope she has a very happy birthday and many more of them.
A notice at temporary the bus exchange says the completion date for the permanent replacement will be half way through next year The importance of this to me is only second to the building of a new Central Library in 2017.
I'd also like the insurance companies to settle all the housing claims from the September 2010 quake onwards. Some people are stll not living in weather-proof housing. I know the issues are really complicated, and that I don't fully understand them, but it seems to be dragging out over a long time.
I am also thankful how fortunate I have been in regard to my own house.
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Many happy returns Miss M.!
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That is really great to hear, Lothlorien. I don't post much, but I have been following Miss M.'s progress (and her sister - how's that going?) and am really pleased to hear how well she's doing!
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Good to hear Miss M's news. May it be all steps forward and no steps back from here on, with smiles and hugs and cheerful news.
The Grandad had a brilliantly successful operation, a month ago now, and is better in many ways; with the hernia flattened out and the gut tucked back where it's meant to be it's digesting food (and those supplements) much better. But recovery from a six-hour operation under a general anaesthetic (which they'd thought he might not be able to cope with) is slow. He's going tomorrow to have a week in a nice rest home ( a new experience, a bit like being sent to boarding school) while I fly south for my respite break to visit my favourite cousin and go to the Sea of Faith conference, which I missed last year. So he too is encouraged by knowing that some prayers are being said.
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Happy birthday from us also.
Good to hear that GG - make sure that you have a solid rest this week, and that you look after yourself as well as looking after the Grand Dad.
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Glad to hear it, GG - hope both you and the Grandad have good breaks.
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That is really great to hear, Lothlorien. I don't post much, but I have been following Miss M.'s progress (and her sister - how's that going?) and am really pleased to hear how well she's doing!
Thank you Athrawes. We appreciate all concern and prayers. Big sister has another few weeks of leg brace but is coping better this weekend than last time, two weeks ago. She cooked birthday breakfast of bacon and eggs for four of us yesterday and then a pile of pikelets for party.
Miss M is so much better on this lot of chemo, even with another 22 months to go. The last lot was very savage.
Banner Lady and others from ACT territory. My iPad popped up a reminder this morning that it is Family and Community Day in ACT today. I hope you are all celebrating appropriately.
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The Grandad had a brilliantly successful operation,
Very good news, GG. My mother was told once that six stitches in a badly cut finger stressed body as much as a minor operation, so I can only guess at what a six hour operation in an older person who was not well to start with, must do.
I hope you both have wonderful, restorative breaks.
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Happy birthday to Queen Lizzie over here in Sandgroperville! Do you Eastern lot get a public holiday too?
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We had our holiday for the Queen's birthday in July but we do get a holiday next Monday for Labour Day.
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Happy birthday to Queen Lizzie over here in Sandgroperville! Do you Eastern lot get a public holiday too?
Isn't the Queen's birthday in April? Just in case, I Googled Elizabeth I to see if it was for her, but her birthday was 7th September, so that's no help.
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June here, but wikipedia tells all : It's all about summer in a different hemisphere.
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The Queen's Official Birthday (King's Official Birthday in the reign of a male monarch) is the selected day on which the birthday of the monarch of the Commonwealth realms (currently Queen Elizabeth II) is officially celebrated in those countries. The date varies as adopted by each Commonwealth country, but is generally around the end of May to the start of June, to coincide with a high probability of fine weather in the Northern Hemisphere for outdoor ceremonies.
When I was at boarding school it was always the first weekend back after the May holidays. We did not get a day off. ![[Disappointed]](graemlins/disappointed.gif)
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