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ken
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You get better views from the train. Especially of the nuclear submarines.
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Alan Cresswell
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The scheduled journey time is pretty similar. My experience of driving up that way is that the A82 along Loch Lomond can be very slow going, and going over the Rest and be Thankful often not much better (even when the road hasn't been blocked by another landslide). Try it on a summer day with tourists pulling in and out of Luss and other spots along the way and I'd take the train.
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Arethosemyfeet
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I've mostly done the leg from Oban to Inveraray, which tends to keep pretty well to time, but I can see how the other part might get delayed.
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daisymay
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quote: Originally posted by Arethosemyfeet: The coach to Oban from Glasgow is just as quick as the train, thought there are due to a be a lot more train journeys from May onwards. If you climb hills on the west side of Mull do wave at those of us on islands further out.
I do think it might be Ok when we go from Glasgow to Oban to Mull at the end of May.
I also do enjoy walking around in Mull. Maybe we can go up the hills. We will also visit Iona.
Are their Kirks at the place of Mull we will be which is close to Iona? Or do we need to get to Iona on a Sunday?
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quote: Originally posted by Dafyd: I believe I'm going to be in Edinburgh 25th May. I was just thinking a shipmeet would be a good idea. Presumably after church. Meet for lunch or after lunch?
I too will be in Edinburgh that morning. Not sure what time I'll be free, but possibly up for something.
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Dafyd
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quote: Originally posted by Curiosity killed ...: Would anyone be up for an Edinburgh Shipmeet on Sunday 25 May?
Bump. Shall I start a dedicated thread?
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Curiosity killed ...
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At Christmas we were "entertained" by the locals' opinion of the slowness of the train from Glasgow to Oban - as in they moaned continuously the whole journey as they steadily became drunker on buffet trolley beer. (Which also meant the conductor had to tell them to stop drinking at 9pm - local rules - to additional complaints.)
Actually one of the locals wasn't moaning, he was stunned having just had charges dropped and been released from several months on remand that day and was wondering if he still had a home to go home to. The bus had finished for the holidays and they had had to take the train.
It was an *interesting* trip. Also enlivened by different passengers trying to work out family connections across the Highlands and Islands.
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Arethosemyfeet
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quote: Originally posted by daisymay: Are their Kirks at the place of Mull we will be which is close to Iona? Or do we need to get to Iona on a Sunday?
This should help, I think: http://www.ikkrom.org.uk/ The short answer is, yes, so long as you don't mind waiting until the afternoon.
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daisymay
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Thank you very much giving me lots of information to go to church/kirk. And will there be one to take us across from Mull to Iona on a Sunday morning ?
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daisymay
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Today, just a short one, at 1pm, I managed to go to a Kirk in London.
http://www.crowncourtchurch.org.uk/
It's a lovely one and really nice people and excellent preaching !
It's long way from where I live, but today I had the time to go !
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North East Quine
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quote: Originally posted by North East Quine: I am thinking of attending the Elizabeth Melville Day service in St Giles on 21 June.
Elizabeth Melville's flagstone will be unveiled in the morning, and "In the evening, in the High Kirk of St Giles, the choral ensemble Sang Scule will give a concert entitled Ane Mid-simmar Nichts Godlie Dreame, featuring all five of Melville's songs, embedded in a sequence of psalm-paraphrases by George Buchanan, Alexander Montgomerie and James Melville, post-Reformation church music by Lady Culross's contemporary Jhone Angus of Dunfermline, and framed by audience-sung metrical psalms - Ps.124 "Nou Israel may say", Ps.23 "The Lord is only my support" to the tune "Culross", and Ps.2, with all its warnings to the kings and judges of the earth. Texts and music will be provided!"
I really like the sound of this! Any other Shipmates interested? Maybe a possible Shipmeet?
The updated plan for Elizabeth Melville Day is here Germaine Greer and Meg Bateman will both be at the St Giles Concert.
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Surfing Madness
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Yesterday in a (pre-planned) moment of madness, one of my friends and I cycled round some of Loch Katrine on a Tandem. It is beautiful, and not to hilly, but doing it on a tandem, added to the adventure!
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Alan Cresswell
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There's a perfectly good road around at least some of Loch Katrine, I've not been all the way around so can't comment on the whole circuit.
A good few years ago I took the train to Bridge of Orchy and walked south a bit along the old military road before heading up Allt Kinglass towards Loch Lyon to tackle Beinn a'Chreachain the following day. I pitched tent just beyond the end of the farm track, and while cooking supper I was surprised to observe a group of mountain bikers coming down from the higher ground I was going to head up the next day. Nothing odd about that, except two of them were on a tandem. Off road biking on a tandem must quite a ride!
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To The Pain
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Yeah, off-roading a tandem sounds a bit hair-raising. I've been on my Dad's tandem a few times and every now and again look into adding one to the bicycle stable. I like the way that heads turn and that you don't lose your riding companion in traffic or on hills. But proper mountain biking? That sounds like you'd need exceptional trust and teamwork between the pilot and stoker, even more so than riding on the paved and made-up surfaces I've experienced.
Maybe this will be the summer that I finally take the plunge. We shall see.
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Cottontail
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General Assembly starts tomorrow. Pray for us. ![[Votive]](graemlins/votive.gif)
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Piglet
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The plunge of buying a tandem? Happy cycling, and health to enjoy it!
It looks as if you're going to get some nice cycling weather - my niece posted a picture on Facebook of my sister eating lunch outside the House of Bruar en route to Orkney, and I have to confess to quite a large stab of envy.
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Alan Cresswell
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Does your list of potential logistic solutions include riding it up from Norwich?
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Cottontail
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Thank you, To The Pain. The first day passed off okay. Wednesday will be the difficult one.
And yay for your tandem adventures. ![[Smile]](smile.gif)
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Tulfes
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Re the London walk thread elsewhere, would anyone be up for a Glasgow walk? I was thinking of Tinto hill in Lanarkshire. Not too difficult (achievable by non-hillwalkers). Or any other suggestions eg Dumgoyne hill, West Highland way Milngavie to Beech Tree Inn, around Loch Katrine, Greenock Cut, Arran (climb Goat Fell), walk around Cumbrae (aka Millport). Etc. [ 17. May 2014, 21:43: Message edited by: Tulfes ]
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Alan Cresswell
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It has been a long time since we had a walking meet - we went up the Cobbler on that occasion.
Probably the logistics of getting to an island would make staying on the mainland a bit more doable. Something like Tinto, which is a few hours up and down, gives time for people to get there if they're not relatively close and time for a lunch or dinner as well (including for those who may not want to walk but want to meet).
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North East Quine
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I'd like to do the Milngavie to Beech Tree Inn walk. The logistics of getting to Arran or Cumbrae would defeat me, but I am one of the further-flung shipmates.
This is probably of zero interest to anyone, but I'm keen to do the Glasgow Women's Library Women's History Walks. I've done the Merchant City one, but there are several others. I have the full set of leaflets.
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Dafyd
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quote: Originally posted by Alan Cresswell: Probably the logistics of getting to an island would make staying on the mainland a bit more doable. Something like Tinto, which is a few hours up and down, gives time for people to get there if they're not relatively close and time for a lunch or dinner as well (including for those who may not want to walk but want to meet).
I'd be up for that, wife and child permitting.
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Tulfes
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quote: Originally posted by Dafyd: quote: Originally posted by Alan Cresswell: Probably the logistics of getting to an island would make staying on the mainland a bit more doable. Something like Tinto, which is a few hours up and down, gives time for people to get there if they're not relatively close and time for a lunch or dinner as well (including for those who may not want to walk but want to meet).
I'd be up for that, wife and child permitting.
Tonto is very doable by suitable for children from about 9 upwards. For younger children there is the Dumpling at Gartocharn (southern side of Loch Lomond, easily accessible from Glasgow conurbation). Very easy climb (I've heard of 5 year olds enjoying it) with a grassy bit at the top for a picnic and spectacular views of the southern loch and islands. This would be a good walk if under 9s are coming along.
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Cottontail
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quote: Originally posted by North East Quine: This is probably of zero interest to anyone, but I'm keen to do the Glasgow Women's Library Women's History Walks. I've done the Merchant City one, but there are several others. I have the full set of leaflets.
That's of quite a lot of interest to me, actually!
I've climbed Tinto sooooo many times during my youth. It was a favourite destination for Sunday School sponsored walks! My niece climbed it aged 5, though she was toiling quite a bit by the end. It's a long haul, but not actually difficult if you have the stamina.
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Surfing Madness
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quote: Originally posted by Cottontail: quote: Originally posted by North East Quine: This is probably of zero interest to anyone, but I'm keen to do the Glasgow Women's Library Women's History Walks. I've done the Merchant City one, but there are several others. I have the full set of leaflets.
That's of quite a lot of interest to me, actually!
I'd also be interested, but due to work am unlikely to make a weekend meet.
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North East Quine
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A walk up a hill or round a loch would be best though, as everyone could enjoy it.
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To The Pain
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quote: Originally posted by Alan Cresswell: Does your list of potential logistic solutions include riding it up from Norwich?
I did actually look into how long that would take, but neither Callanish nor myself have the leave to spare. Then I suggested that our friends/relatives/shipmates up and down the country could do half an hour or so each and pass it on in an extended relay that might reach us by Christmas!
Plan is now to get my Dad to pick it up (possibly with a short stay with a friend in Norwich if the seller can't keep it until he can get there) and take it to Hertfordshire and Callanish and I to pay a flying visit one weekend in June with a roof rack in reserve in case we can't get it inside the car along with our two bodies.
Cottontail - I'll keep up the prayers and hope that Wednesday goes well.
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Wet Kipper
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quote: Originally posted by To The Pain: [QUOTE]Then I suggested that our friends/relatives/shipmates up and down the country could do half an hour or so each and pass it on in an extended relay
Another forum I frequent has a system like this, known as the "underground railway"
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Cottontail
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Well, the day passed off, and it could have been worse.
GA vote
Thank you for prayers.
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Piglet
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I've just heard about this awful news.
D. and I have had a fixation with the work of Charles Rennie Mackintosh for about 20 years, and whenever we get the chance, we go to Glasgow and either just stand gazing at the building, or do one of the tours.
What a tragedy - that building is a National Treasure.
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Tulfes
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The BBC is reporting that 90% of the structure of the Art School is "viable" and that "up to" 70% of the contents have been saved. No injury or loss of life. We should be thankful. It seems that the fire fighters have done a tremendous job.
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Piglet
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The report in the Daily Telegraph included quotes from a couple of the GSA students, who pointed out that at this time of year they're preparing work for their final exhibitions, much of which will have been lost.
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Lucia
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I see the UK government is promising a significant contribution towards rebuilding.
When I told my husband this he asked if we get a refund if Scotland leaves the UK... [ 24. May 2014, 13:56: Message edited by: Lucia ]
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daisymay
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We're going up to Glasgow and Oban in the train tonight, to sleep! And I do hope it will be sunny and dry in Oban and Iona all our week. I have enjoyed being there often a long times ago and my family are being there for the first time! I hope they like it too.
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Sandemaniac
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This time in a fortnight we'll be packing for Orkney!
Unfortunately I will think of my boss every time I see his name on that road sign near Loch of Isbister...
AG
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Curiosity killed ...
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Well it was sunny and glorious on Iona yesterday and this morning, but it's pretty dull, albeit dry, waiting for the delayed ferry to Oban from Craignure.
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mrs whibley
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quote: Originally posted by Sandemaniac: This time in a fortnight we'll be packing for Orkney!
Unfortunately I will think of my boss every time I see his name on that road sign near Loch of Isbister...
AG
We'll be there the week before you then. We'll try to save you some weather!
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I know the weather forecast for tomorrow is that this sunny spell is due to break into storms and rain.
I saw daisymay in the Oban ferry waiting room, waiting for our delayed ferry to take its return journey.
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I see that Embra has trams at last! Has anyone travelled on them and has the city returned to normal after having the main street torn up for years?
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Piglet
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quote: Originally posted by Sandemaniac: ... I will think of my boss every time I see his name on that road sign near Loch of Isbister...
You don't mean this sign do you?
Me? Envious? You bet I am. Have a great time and give the old place a wave from me (we'll be over at the beginning of September).
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quote: Originally posted by Sioni Sais: I see that Embra has trams at last! Has anyone travelled on them and has the city returned to normal after having the main street torn up for years?
The roadworks finished a while ago. Apparently the first runnings were thronged with tram spotters. A FB friend was on - but said it was so crowded, and no A/C, that she got off 3 stops early.
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I'd forgotten the reported bother with the trams going in, and didn't immediately notice that difference from a few visits to Embra pre-offspring, then double took the cables and tracks and remembered. (We were there last Sunday/Monday and this Saturday around a wander out to Oban, Kerrera, Mull/Tobermory - including a boat trip to Lunga and Staffa - and Iona. I'm even more in love with puffins.)
However, party culture in Embra on a Saturday night is going good and strong. [ 01. June 2014, 12:57: Message edited by: Curiosity killed ... ]
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Sandemaniac
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quote: Originally posted by piglet: You don't mean this sign do you?
Whatever makes you think that, piglet?
We couldn't find the single sign when we were there - I suspect that it was the one I saw under the arm of one of a hen party getting on a coach as we arrived in Kirkwall!
Anywhere in particular you'd like waved to?
AG
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Piglet
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Kirkwall generally (where I grew up), and St. Magnus Cathedral in particular (where D. used to be the organist, I sang in the choir and we were married).
quote: Originally posted by Curiosity killed ...: ... I'm even more in love with puffins ...
You ought to come over here - the puffin is our provincial bird.
edited for typnig [ 02. June 2014, 03:09: Message edited by: piglet ]
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Sandemaniac
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quote: Originally posted by piglet: Kirkwall generally (where I grew up), and St. Magnus Cathedral in particular (where D. used to be the organist, I sang in the choir and we were married).
Consider it done!
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Celtic Knotweed
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quote: Originally posted by Sandemaniac: quote: Originally posted by piglet: Kirkwall generally (where I grew up), and St. Magnus Cathedral in particular (where D. used to be the organist, I sang in the choir and we were married).
Consider it done!
AG
Extra excuses to go wander around St. Magnus Cathedral gladly accepted! Last time we managed to go on a tour of the roof - wonderful views and a chance to see the ringing set-up (quite a bit different to anywhere else in the UK).
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Piglet
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D. used to be one of the Cathedral bell-ringers and I went up the tower with him once when he was ringing - even with ear-muffs it was jolly noisy!
The "method" they use is quite clever - it starts off very slowly with just a few bongs per minute and gradually gets faster and faster. I lived just about quarter of a mile up the road, and before I joined the choir, I'd hear them from about halfway down and could tell how fast I had to walk so as not to be late. ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif)
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