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quote:
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quote:
Originally posted by North East Quine:
... what shade of blue is "Presbyterian blue"? ...

St. Magnus Cathedral, the (CofS) Presbyterian church where we were married isn't blue at all - it's red-and-yellow sandstone - the only blue I can think of is on the signs showing where the wheelchair access is.

The present incumbent wears a blue cassock, as did his predecessor - although that may have been because he was an avid Cowdenbeath supporter [Biased] . The minister who married us wore a scarlet one, because he was a Queen's Chaplain.

Maybe Presbyterian blue is the dark-blue of the Ford Fiestas that used to be standard-issue from 121 George Street ... [Big Grin]
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Maybe it's this blue.

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Oh my goodness. Scz tried to describe it to me, but didn't even begin to do justice to the awfulness.
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As has already been tweeted:

Made in Scotland from curtains

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Shower curtains at that.
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quote:
Originally posted by kingsfold:
... Made in Scotland from curtains

[Killing me]

I can only assume that the designer was colour-blind - I mean who on earth would put that sort of blue with that sort of green?

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I went to a church "Evangelical" in the evening - it was the only one that had evening service.

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For those who do not know Presbyterian Blue is a light shade of Royal Blue.

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In other news, maybe this year will be baby panda year?

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That poor panda, having all the details of her every reproductive hormone broadcast to the whole world!
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I have just had a haggis rowie. It was sublime!
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By "rowie" do you mean what a foreigner like me would call a buttery?

If so, I'm deeply envious (and salivating at the thought of an Aberdeen buttery, warmed under the grill with a little extra butter melting into it), but not sure about the haggis. Not that I don't like haggis - I love it once in a while, and have even been known to make my own - but the combination is - um - interesting ...

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We had haggis in Dundee and Blairgowrie and my family really enjoy it !

It was also really nice and warm to walk up the hills, all around and along the rivers.

Also in Blairgowrie I found a place up the top where maybe another time I can bring a tent to camp there.

And I always still watch the haggis on the computer, which does not have them now but has many nice places of Scotland to see.

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Yup, a haggis buttery, piglet. For lunch, warm, with a fried egg on top. It was glorious!
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quote:
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Yup, a haggis buttery, piglet. For lunch, warm, with a fried egg on top. It was glorious!

I've just looked up a recipe for a buttery and am now eyeing up the dough in my breadmaker and wondering if my arteries are up to it! It's a pity I haven't got any haggis in, because it sounds great with an egg on top.

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... I've just looked up a recipe for a buttery and am now eyeing up the dough in my breadmaker ...

Ooh ... don't tempt me!

I'd never get away with it - D's never lived in Aberdeen and doesn't understand my predilection for butteries.

Strangely enough, the only time I've gone on a diet that worked was when I was a student in Aberdeen and I began every day with a hot toasted buttery ... [Cool]

[ 14. July 2014, 14:50: Message edited by: piglet ]

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http://haggishunt.scotsman.com/camera.cfm?camera=10

Maybe just to see what later has fun to try and win, it still is nice to see now all sorts of places in Scotland. And I enjoy the St Andrews as I was at university there.

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quote:
Originally posted by Heavenly Anarchist:
quote:
Originally posted by North East Quine:
Yup, a haggis buttery, piglet. For lunch, warm, with a fried egg on top. It was glorious!

I've just looked up a recipe for a buttery and am now eyeing up the dough in my breadmaker and wondering if my arteries are up to it! It's a pity I haven't got any haggis in, because it sounds great with an egg on top.
As soon as I call my sister to let her know I am safely off the plane and choking on the tobacco smoke outside Glasgow airport, one of my first questions is, "Did you get the butteries?" By the time I get to Stonehaven my life and happiness depend on a bag of fresh butteries, a jar of Marmite, and a pot of coffee. I haven't tried them with haggis, and I probably won't. They haven't been the same since the health zealots brought lard into disrepute and increased life expectancy in the North East, but I still dream about them from afar.

Incidentally, did you know that butteries are related to traditional croissants as found in rural Québec? We were once in l'Annonciation, a long drive north west of Montreal, and were told we should buy croissants at the bakery there. If you bit into one and closed your eyes, you could almost smell the Aberdeen fish market in the early hours of the morning. I hope God uses the old recipe in Heaven.

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What did people think of the opening ceremony of the commonwealth games? I was near pacific quay, and the fireworks were amazing.
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I heard the fireworks on Mon night during the rehearsal (which given I was trying to sleep made me a bit grumpy).

But I slept through it last night and didn't see or hear any of it. Literally - I'm on an early shift at the moment so need to be in bed that early....

But I love the idea of the Scottie dogs leading the teams out and the pictures of them.

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I thought I was going to catch the last hour of it on one of the CBC channels (the "channel guide" said it was still running), but they were showing some cr*ppy drama series. [Mad]

I saw a picture of the Scottie dogs on the BBC World news bulletin, and thought, "aaahhh!"

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I'm paying a lightning trip to Glasgow to see a certain North East Loon at the Kelvingrove bandstand on Thursday.
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The Scottish Review

Enjoyed this online article. Can anyone identify the village?

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Have you never seen someone using URL and thus avoiding breaking the scroll lock?

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quote:
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I'm paying a lightning trip to Glasgow to see a certain North East Loon at the Kelvingrove bandstand on Thursday.

Give him a cheer from us - we loved the book!

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quote:
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The Scottish Review

Enjoyed this online article. Can anyone identify the village?

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Sounds like Barrhill. I used to catch the train there to Glasgow when I lived over in Galloway. Up on a moor, miles from anywhere. The village is pretty poor, but the landscape is lovely. [Smile]

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North East Quine

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Thanks, S.T.! The rain started bucketing down half way through, but we still enjoyed it.

I'd agree the mysterious village is Barrhill. I'm a bit confused by the "you may have to change at Ayr" as only one line goes through Ayr (unless you're on a train which terminates at Ayr and have to change to a through train to Stranraer, I suppose).

Barrhill has a New Cemetery, between the train station and Barrhill itself, but it does have an Old Cemetery, too.

The gravestone inscriptions have been transcribed, and this slim booklet currently ranks 7, 499, 359th in Amazon's best-seller list.

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I was puzzled by the change at Ayr reference too. I think it refers to the fact that most trains from the Glasgow direction terminate at Ayr, with only a few proceeding south to Girvan, Barrhill and Stranraer (there used to be stations at New Luce and Dunragit). So you need to change at Ayr to reach Barrhill unless you happen to be on one of the Stranraer bound trains.
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North East Quine

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Barrhill Old Cemetery apparently has a memorial to two Covenanters, which was erected in 1685, renewed in 1787, and re-erected in 1825.

The verse on it reads:

Here in this place two martyrs lie
Whose blood to Heaven hath a loud cry
Murder'd contrary to divine laws
For owning of King Jesus laws
By bloody Drummond they were shot
Without any trial near this spot.

Now I want to visit Barrhill, just to see the Covenanters memorial. Cottontail, have you seen it? Is it splendid? Or dark, mossy and atmospheric?

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Whoops! Don't get me started on the Covenanters. Strange things happen in my soul when people start on Covenanters ...

I've never seen the memorial at Barrhill, I'm afraid, though there are a few others around. Have you visited the one to the Two Margarets at Wigtown? There is also a gravestone to the men killed in the same raid (?) in Wigtown churchyard, though they were hung as opposed to drowned like the women.

I also know the one to John Hunter at the Devil's Beeftub at Moffat, and Allan's Cairn near St John's Town of Dalry, which I passed while walking the Southern Upland Way. Then there is one outside Sanquhar where they hold a memorial service every year - my grandmother talked about attending it as a young woman, so it has gone on for a long time.

I have no direct connection that I know of, but this is my part of the world, and I grew up reading about the Covenanters and being fed tales by my grandmother. (Hunter is a family name as well, and John Hunter is coincidently buried in the same churchyard as my great grandparents.) So I get very protective of the Covenanters, and famously became furious during an undergraduate theology lecture when the very learned professor dismissed them as a bunch of fanatics. (I believe I denounced him ... though not in his hearing ... as a 'bloody Edinburgh Whig'. [Eek!] ) These are my people!

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I'm hoping to see the Two Margarets one at Wigtown later this year!

Have you tried to link back to John Hunter? Not that I think it would be possible, but if you traced your Hunter line far enough back, and they were in the right area, it would be all grist to your Covenanting mill.

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There's a memorial in Deerness, in Orkney, to a ship-load of Covenanters who were shipwrecked off the coast en route to slavery in America.

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Curiosity killed ...

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I finally organised myself enough to put these photos up from May of our visit to Scotland, Edinburgh, Oban, Kerrera, Mull, Lunga, Staffa and Iona.

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Lovely photos, CK - especially the puffins and the sunset. [Smile]

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Curiosity killed ...

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I was already in love with puffins, they play with sailing dinghies in Poole Harbour, so Lunga was amazing.

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quote:
Originally posted by North East Quine:

By bloody Drummond they were shot
Without any trial near this spot.

Which reminded me of a 17th century prayer (quoted in Chacksfield's biography of the Drummond brothers) "From the ire of the Drummonds, Good Lord, deliver us".

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quote:
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quote:
Originally posted by North East Quine:

By bloody Drummond they were shot
Without any trial near this spot.

Which reminded me of a 17th century prayer (quoted in Chacksfield's biography of the Drummond brothers) "From the ire of the Drummonds, Good Lord, deliver us".
My old copy of Wilson's Tales of the Borders had a Covenanting story prefaced by the following:

The Deil and Dalziel begin wi ane letter;
the Deil's nae guid, and Dalziel's nae better!
*

This was Thomas Dalziel** of the Binns, a.k.a. Bluidy Tam, ruthless hunter of Covenanters who - according to scurrilous legend - liked to play cards with the devil! And there could even be some truth to the legend. [Ultra confused]


* 'The devil and Dalziel begin with one letter;
the devil's no good, and Dalziel's no better.'

** pronounced 'Dee-ell'

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quote:
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... pronounced 'Dee-ell'

We're Scottish - you think we don't know how to pronounce "Dalziel"? [Devil]

Actually, now I think about it, since the BBC's screening of Dalziel and Pascoe, maybe our southerly friends can pronounce it too ... [Big Grin]

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... pronounced 'Dee-ell'

We're Scottish - you think we don't know how to pronounce "Dalziel"? [Devil]

Actually, now I think about it, since the BBC's screening of Dalziel and Pascoe, maybe our southerly friends can pronounce it too ... [Big Grin]

There's more than just us Scots (or Brits) read this thread. [Razz]

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That, obviously, is my learning for the day - I didn't know the Scots pronunciation.

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That rhyme was in the Dalziel and Pascoe books too, at the beginning to tell readers how to pronounce it

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Anyone who lives near Forres, please keep an eye out for Tess, missing Guide dog.

Tess, missing guide dog

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Missing Tess has been all over Facebook here.
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Sorry, hit send too soon. There's been massive coverage of Tess going missing, it's been in the papers, and on the radio and STV news.

Poor Tess and her owner! I hope they're reunited soon.

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quote:
Originally posted by piglet:
We're Scottish - you think we don't know how to pronounce "Dalziel"?

I believe they may struggle in Basingstoke.

AG

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Piglet
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[Killing me]

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alto n a soprano who can read music

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Surfing Madness
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That was very funny. [Devil]

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Piglet
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Lovely Aberdeen accent though - I've a friend who sounds just like Mr. Duguid, but not so cross. [Big Grin]

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Tulfes
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Speaking from the central belt here, but constantly shocked reading of road traffic fatalities in Aberdeenshire and the north east generally. Are the numbers disproportionate? If so, why? I suppose it might be blamed on lack of motorways but lots of areas of Scotland lack good motorways eg Ayrshire only has a bit of M77 and the rest of the county (north, east and south) is a mix of poor A and B roads. Ditto Dumfries and Galloway. Does the relative prosperity of the NE encourage youngsters onto the road with too little driving experience? Why are the people up there not demanding proper comparison with other areas, maybe a public inquiry and some action?
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