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Antisocial Alto
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quote: Originally posted by orfeo: TICTH Luis Suarez. The man should be banned from football. How is biting your opponent, in front of a billion people no less, remotely acceptable?
Someone on Twitter (presumably American) said "Who cares about Suarez biting someone? Our football players murder people."
I kind of got a kick out of that.
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Amazing Grace
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TICTH people who constantly "micromanage" other people's work (especially volunteer work) at the church, and not in an affirming and constructive way.
Scare quotes because they aren't actually the people who are charged with overseeing that particular work. They're just complainy busybodies.
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QLib
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Wilkinson Sword's TV advert: allegedly celebrating spontaneity, but actually telling you can't take your clothes off and jump in the pool at a party unless you are "beach ready .... down there". Fuckwits.
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Wesley J
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May they fall on their own swords, QLib.
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Pyx_e
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TICTH members of the Ordinariate who KEEP bleating on about those clergy who despite espousing similar beliefs to you (on blogs, at meeting and in drinks) in the LONG run up to the leap of faith didn't jump.
Go find a shit ton of wood, build yourselves a bridge and get over it.
If they were going to come they would have come by now. Your constant sniping, cajoling, whispering, pleading and threatening just make you look pathetic. Some of you are reasonably clever and certainly can turn a word but you can't hide the bitter heart of your felt betrayal.
As an aside you are breaking the hearts of some who despite wanting to come with you CAN'T because what has gone on in their lives before.
Everyone I know is very happy for you, you have found your home. Everyone acknowledges it was an April shower of departure rather than the hoped for (by you) deluge. But it is over. You have got all you are getting, if you feel the need for more numbers to stave of your assimilation into the Borg then go and do some mission FFS and stop writing stupid letters, blogs and articles that just make you sound like whiney adolescents whose friends won't join their new gang.
Sigh.
Pyx_e
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CL
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quote: Originally posted by Pyx_e: TICTH members of the Ordinariate who KEEP bleating on about those clergy who despite espousing similar beliefs to you (on blogs, at meeting and in drinks) in the LONG run up to the leap of faith didn't jump.
Go find a shit ton of wood, build yourselves a bridge and get over it.
If they were going to come they would have come by now. Your constant sniping, cajoling, whispering, pleading and threatening just make you look pathetic. Some of you are reasonably clever and certainly can turn a word but you can't hide the bitter heart of your felt betrayal.
As an aside you are breaking the hearts of some who despite wanting to come with you CAN'T because what has gone on in their lives before.
Everyone I know is very happy for you, you have found your home. Everyone acknowledges it was an April shower of departure rather than the hoped for (by you) deluge. But it is over. You have got all you are getting, if you feel the need for more numbers to stave of your assimilation into the Borg then go and do some mission FFS and stop writing stupid letters, blogs and articles that just make you sound like whiney adolescents whose friends won't join their new gang.
Sigh.
Pyx_e
The least you could do is to have the honesty to name Msgr Broadhurst and Fr Hunwicke as the targets of your ire rather than hide behind oblique references to certain blogs and certain letters.
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Pyx_e
Quixotic Tilter
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CL firstly my understanding of ship policy is we are not encouraged to allow/create inter board ructions. So I have not named names, it is all out there to read, I'm not going to make it easy for you or hard for the ship.
Secondly, you ought not to mention words like "honesty."
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chive
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Pyx_e
As a member of the Ordinariate I am so with you. I don't understand people looking back. You've made your decision, move forward, meld into the church you've joined, learn the intricacies of Catholicism. Stop looking over your shoulder and sticking out your tongue. It makes you look like someone who is still trying to convince yourself that you're doing the right thing. People are not stupid and will make up their minds on the basis of their own personal situation and relationship with God. Having someone come across as a self satisfied wanker is not going to change anything.
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Piglet
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quote: Originally posted by Amazing Grace: ... complainy busybodies ...
Every church has complainy busybodies: they're the people who make sure that everybody knows just how much volunteering they do.
Whether the churches could function without them is probably worthy of the dissertation for a Ph.D.
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The Kat in the Hat
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Pedestrians who can't wait the couple of minutes it takes for the pelican crossing to change, but must dash across in front of the cyclist who has just built up a nice load of momentum. And talking on your phone at the same time
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orfeo
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TICTH a bloke called Claude Michy for confirming, by suggesting that a woman was irrational, exactly why said woman found him impossible to work with.
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Snags
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TICTH passive aggressive fuckwits who think the world revolves around them and send me snarky emails the morning after I've been up most of the night Doing My Bit.[1]
If you don't get involved, you don't talk to me, and you don't ever, ever, ever volunteer to help in a particular area, how the flippity flipping flop am I supposed to know that you would have liked to have been included in a circular about something that SOMEONE ELSE is organising and which YOU NOW KNOW ABOUT ANYWAY, IN PLENTY OF TIME.
And why on earth would the church maintain a comprehensive list of every skill, hobby and interest its attendees lay claim to, just in case it ever proves useful? We're not the bloody NSA[2].
And why the hell am I having to give you info when you've spoken to the person who's ACTUALLY organising it?
Bloody narcissists.
[1]OK, you couldn't have known, but this isn't about being reasonable
[2]Although sometimes one could be forgiven ...
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South Coast Kevin
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quote: Originally posted by orfeo: TICTH a bloke called Claude Michy for confirming, by suggesting that a woman was irrational, exactly why said woman found him impossible to work with.
"She's a woman so it could be down to any number of things … it's an astonishing, irrational and incomprehensible decision. She's developed a confidence problem, but I don't know what it was that caused this."
That's hysterically, tragically misogynistic!
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saysay
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TICTH certain former female friends for being stupid, selfish, spoiled sluts who can't seem to stop lying.
And TICTH certain men for making me so afraid of how something is going to be interpreted that I'm afraid to act. I'd like to do the decent honorable thing right now, but you people are all fucking crazy up there.
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Penny S
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The sort of person who moves in to a project someone else has started, and is their livelihood, with the pretence of support, alienates the supporters of the founder, and ejects them, leaving them with very little, and themselves with a profit.
I know of three now. The first lost their case in court. The second completely failed with the project (unless their aim was to run a tax scam and money laundering) leaving bits of it scattered about and removed from the founder. What will happen in the case of the third is up in the air at the moment. Ah, I recall a fourth, in our Meeting, who had his business moved in upon.
And I am fuming with no prospect of having anything useful to do when someone already vulnerable through illness is well and truly kicked while he is down.
How do these ******* (substitute suitable plural noun, possibly from Klingon) live with themselves?
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Doublethink.
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Maybe trying this aloud in the relevant places, to the relevant people ?
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Penny S
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At the moment, I am bound by the wishes of the victim, who taking advice. When the bonds are loosened, then things will be said and done, and not just by me.
But it does seem to be a general problem, as well. It should be possible to identify these people in advance. (A friend did, in this case, but was not believed as he had no evidence for his antennae twitch.) [ 29. June 2014, 17:56: Message edited by: Penny S ]
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Sipech
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When I get home, I'm cutting up my old Rolf Harris t-shirt. Haven't worn it in months, but now that he's been found guilty, I can see no reason for that t-shirt to continue in existence. He's a man who did evil.
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Erroneous Monk
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quote: Originally posted by TheAlethiophile: When I get home, I'm cutting up my old Rolf Harris t-shirt. Haven't worn it in months, but now that he's been found guilty, I can see no reason for that t-shirt to continue in existence. He's a man who did evil.
Are you going to scream "Can you tell what it is yet? Can you?? CAN YOU???" as you do it?
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Sandemaniac
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quote: Originally posted by Erroneous Monk: Are you going to scream "Can you tell what it is yet? Can you?? CAN YOU???" as you do it?
The spontaneous and embarrasingy hard to explain giggle at work that got out of me is definitely worth a call to heck at the very least, EM!
AG
PS Usual comments on your sig. OK, love-in over, time to get hellish again. [ 30. June 2014, 15:42: Message edited by: Sandemaniac ]
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orfeo
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TICTH the thoroughly stupid middle-aged blonde woman who, this morning:
approaching traffic light 1, zoomed up behind a van, than abruptly switched lanes to tailgate me while I was slowing down because the light was red and I had the nounce to look a hundred metres up the road and see it was red;
approaching traffic light 2, swerved out from behind me so that she could accelerate off at a great pace, even though the light was red at the time and there were cars waiting at the lights (so that when the light switched to green, she had to slow down anyway because those cars were taking off from 0 km/h, not her 90 km/h);
at traffic light 3, several kilometres down the road from where I first encountered her grand prix-inspired behaviour, ended up one car-length BEHIND me in the neighbouring lane. A more perfect demonstration of the sheer pointlessness of driving in traffic in a manner that endangers lives, I could not have wished for.
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Doc Tor
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TICTH the men - and they were all men - who decided they had the right to comment on what my daughter wore when she went into town shopping, and made her so uncomfortable that she felt she had to buy a skirt to change into.
FFS, the problem is with your mind, not her legs. Unless you are an actual police officer who has reason to believe she's outraging the public decency, then your choices are going home or shutting the fuck up. And if you ever, ever, try this on her when I'm out with her, I will make such a public spectacle of you that your already microscopic penis will require all the facilities of CERN to find it again.
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Sipech
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TICTH system developers. Get off your bloody high horse. Once I've written the specifications, told you the inputs and shown you what the outputs need to look like, it is not up to you to decide that the outputs need to exclude data you don't like. Don't act all surprised that when I test the system I complain that there's data missing.
If you want to design a system from scratch, then do it in your own time. If you get given a clear set of step-by-step instructions then learn to bloody well follow them. You're not the one using the data so don't presume you know how it ought to look. You already wasted weeks building a fancy widget that wasn't on the design spec and won't be used by anyone.
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quote: Originally posted by Doc Tor: TICTH the men - and they were all men - who decided they had the right to comment on what my daughter wore when she went into town shopping, and made her so uncomfortable that she felt she had to buy a skirt to change into.
FFS, the problem is with your mind, not her legs. Unless you are an actual police officer who has reason to believe she's outraging the public decency, then your choices are going home or shutting the fuck up. And if you ever, ever, try this on her when I'm out with her, I will make such a public spectacle of you that your already microscopic penis will require all the facilities of CERN to find it again.
YES.
and I hope you had a good version of that rant RIGHT IN FRONT of her so she knows it was their fault and not hers and papa has her back.
raise hell, papa!
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"It's hard to be religious when certain people are never incinerated by bolts of lightning.” -Calvin
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Doc Tor
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quote: Originally posted by comet: and I hope you had a good version of that rant RIGHT IN FRONT of her so she knows it was their fault and not hers and papa has her back.
Damn right.
"It's fine..." "It's not bloody fine. I'm furious." etc, repeat to fade.
The thing is, I know they wouldn't have tried it if I'd been there with her, but go on, pick on the girl out on her own, you bastards.
Still furious.
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Otter
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TICTH the stupid sexist nincompoop who told a group of women that they shouldn't do the task they were doing successfully, and called on some men to take over.
Sexist nincompoop also thought it would be ok to remove the structural supports from something, because Artistic Froo-Froo Blather. Mr. Otter put the supports right back, because I wasn't there to bludgeon her with them first. [ 01. July 2014, 20:03: Message edited by: Otter ]
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Penny S
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And the bonds are off! Anyone use West Dulwich station?
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Sipech
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quote: Originally posted by Penny S: And the bonds are off! Anyone use West Dulwich station?
West? I'm not that rich. East Dulwich for me.
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Penny S
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Oh come on, haven't you seen the estates off Croxted Road south of the South Circular? It's more mixed than you think. (Fun can be had making up areas of London that don't exist. Such as East Norwood, North Dulwich...) Anyway, there is a good social project just outside West Dulwich station worthy of support.
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JonahMan
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Job Interviews. I hates them.
Waiting for the result is fine as I have, in ego-protetion mode, usually already convinced myself I don't want the job anyway!
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Sipech
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quote: Originally posted by Penny S: (Fun can be had making up areas of London that don't exist. Such as East Norwood, North Dulwich...)
Erm...I passed North Dulwich this morning. I might use Peckham Hill instead.
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Penny S
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quote: Originally posted by TheAlethiophile: quote: Originally posted by Penny S: (Fun can be had making up areas of London that don't exist. Such as East Norwood, North Dulwich...)
Erm...I passed North Dulwich this morning. I might use Peckham Hill instead.
I know there's a station, but I checked before writing, and various sites say there is no area of that name. But maybe a bad choice. Is there a North Peckham?
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Celtic Knotweed
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TICTH the e-learning system at work, which insists that I do not have a user ID on it. I could understand needing to re-set my password, as I haven't had to do an online course since 2011, but deleting the ID is unexpected.
Especially as I'm meant to do this module before a training course at the end of next week, which I got back from holiday on Monday to discover I'd been allocated to. The boss is chasing up Training to find out what's happened to my account...
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Ariel
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Listen, sunshine, if you want me to make a donation to your charity, do not step deliberately in my path just in front of the ticket barriers at the railway station when I have barely 3 minutes left to get through, sprint up and down flights of steps and across bridges to the other side and into a train.
And emphatically DO NOT ask "Can I borrow you?" I realize this is a gambit designed to provoke a response, but the only response you'll get will be me snarling "No you bloody can't. I'm not an item in a library and nobody owns me. And use proper grammar next time and meanwhile move yourself, you infuriating idiot."
And even if I did have time I absolutely would not sign up to a standing order giving you a double figure sum every month.
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orfeo
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TICTH the local eatery (same disorganised one as previously mentions) that drowns its pasta dishes in so much sauce, they require drainage before consumption.
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Penny S
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The hellbound putsch person and his minion have shown themselves to be capable only of expelling the founder of the scheme, with the base*, and the name, and the web presence, and the contacts, and the goodwill; while being utterly incapable of running anything more complex than putting a paper bag in a bin. This includes not knowing that you can't earn money while on JSA, and not insisting on H&S while carrying out volunteer horticultural work with students. Hardly worth making someone else's life hellish. Hopefully the scheme will keep going without them. *at that station. [ 03. July 2014, 08:43: Message edited by: Penny S ]
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Erroneous Monk
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Rapists. (Today I've read the most harrowing piece written by a young man who was drugged and repeatedly raped by someone he thought he was about to begin a relationship with )
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chive
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TICTH the flytippers who have dumped piles of their crap on the alley of my road. Everyone else either goes to the cowp or puts it out for the binmen but no, you're so important you don't need to, you can just dump it anywhere you want.
-------------------- 'Edward was the kind of man who thought there was no such thing as a lesbian, just a woman who hadn't done one-to-one Bible study with him.' Catherine Fox, Love to the Lost
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Leorning Cniht
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Cowp: Rubbish dump. Usually run by the local municipality, providing large skips for people to deposit their rubbish in, and these days also separate places for recyclables. I don't know where chive is from, but I think of it as a Scots word. Used when householders have old furniture, DIY waste, or other things that don't fit in their roadside bin.
Flytippers: people who can't be bothered to haul their rubbish to the cowp, but find a convenient scenic country lane or farm gate, and fill it with old mattresses, bottles and rubble. May well be more common where municipal dumps charge for access.
Hence, they tip on the fly. [ 03. July 2014, 19:25: Message edited by: Leorning Cniht ]
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Lucia
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TICTH Ramadan driving. When Ramadan first came about the fastest thing people were driving was a camel. Now when they have been up all night, have low blood sugar, are dehydrated after a day in upper 30's heat with no drink, and have nicotine and caffeine withdrawal they get behind the wheel of vehicles of various sizes and attempt to drive on the road. Concentration and judgement is definitely impaired in this situation. As proved by the guy who just drifted sideways into our car with his yesterday, denting and scraping all down the doors on one side. Oh well, at least it was no worse than that...
Edited to add that I live in an Arab country so we are talking about most of the drivers on the road.... [ 04. July 2014, 09:08: Message edited by: Lucia ]
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Penny S
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Thanks LC. (Like the moniker, BTW. I like to use words from the AS dictionary myself.)
My usage in the SE of England is "dump" or "tip". I'd like to know the derivation of cowp, though. (The meaning is what I thought it was.)
There a notice round here "FLY TIPPERS WILL BE PROSECUTED" which brought to the inner eye a truck slanting up and depositing a buzzing crowd of bluebottles.
The worst flytipping I've seen was when Bromley for some reason left unlocked the gates to the old caravan site on the site of the Crystal Palace, and within twenty minutes there wasa stream of lorries leaving building rubble which, from the heading on some of the paperwork in it, came from Dickens and Jones. (Difficult to report it, as we shouldn't have been there reading it.) [ 04. July 2014, 10:30: Message edited by: Penny S ]
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orfeo
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TICTH Philip Nitschke. Either you're a doctor or you're not.
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Albertus
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quote: Originally posted by Penny S: quote: Originally posted by TheAlethiophile: quote: Originally posted by Penny S: (Fun can be had making up areas of London that don't exist. Such as East Norwood, North Dulwich...)
Erm...I passed North Dulwich this morning. I might use Peckham Hill instead.
I know there's a station, but I checked before writing, and various sites say there is no area of that name. But maybe a bad choice. Is there a North Peckham?
There used to be a North Peckham (council) Estate, now I believe demolished.
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Mechtilde
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TICTH the Fourth of July. Brings out the crazy "'Murica is the greatest country in the world" shit from people who've never seriously considered any objective metrics of "greatness." Since people in every country think theirs is the best, it always seems to boil down to "it's the greatest because I live here."
ETA: It is a great excuse to have friends over and fire up the grill, though. [ 04. July 2014, 15:18: Message edited by: Mechtilde ]
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