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Jengie jon

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Believe me Huia you have not lost it.

Just off the phone from my parents. My mum has dementia and was berating my Dad for not caring for her (he is, 24/7) while she looks after him (she has a cracked pelvis so no ability to cook and such). I know it is just a mix of frustration and tiredness, but it is like watching your mother turn into a spoilt two year old toddler.

Jengie

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ChastMastr
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Cubby's mother had Alzheimer's and my own mother was, ah, always crazy (Cubby met her and thinks it was some form of schizophrenia). Love and prayers for all those dealing with parents or loved ones who have such things.

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ChastMastr
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Just to be more hellish, but also because it was weighing on my mind earlier tonight, TICTH the way old friends drop you for probably religious reasons but they never actually tell you so, they just don't bother to respond to attempts to contact, and you can make some educated guesses but they don't have the fucking balls to say "because you're gay" or whatever it is, or maybe I'm too Catholic for them since my last contact with one of them had him saying, with some sort of concern but not made too explicit, that I should read Martin Luther, and you go on never quite knowing what it is they really think of you because maybe you're being formally "shunned" or something like something out of the Amish or whatever. [Frown]

And TICTH Michael W. Smith for "Friends are friends forever" because obviously, and most troublingly especially with some of my old Christian friends I was (or thought I was) closest to (see above), they're not. But Michael went on tosupport Rick Santorum whose name has become synonymous with trying to fight against equal rights, so, there you go. [Frown] Can't listen to MWS without thinking of that anymore... [Frown]

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Pigwidgeon

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quote:
Originally posted by ChastMastr:
But Michael went on tosupport Rick Santorum, whose name has become synonymous with trying to fight against equal rights... [Frown]

I thought Rick Santorum's name had become synonymous for something else...

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ChastMastr
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quote:
Originally posted by Pigwidgeon:
quote:
Originally posted by ChastMastr:
But Michael went on tosupport Rick Santorum, whose name has become synonymous with trying to fight against equal rights... [Frown]

I thought Rick Santorum's name had become synonymous for something else...
Well, yes... [Devil] [Killing me]

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Aircraft noise overhead - a new jet bomber that cost £21 million.

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argona
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On which point, waking too early when the planes have started flying into Heathrow. Especially the little whiney ones. eeeeeeEEEEEEEEEEeeeeeee... Pillow over the head helps not at all. To Hell with them.
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Penny S
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The stone that hit my windscreen, up at the top edge, hidden by the black pattern, so I thought the damage was a little chip lower down which I would get repaired. Whereas it has developed into a long gash across the passenger side and I need a new screen, which can't be done until Thursday. Last time I had a broken screen, they did it that day, in a few hours.

And if I had seen it at the time, I could have gone round to the builder's merchants off whose lorry the stone flew and possibly got them to cough up the excess I'm going to have to pay.

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RuthW

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TICTH the ice cream truck parked out front right now. I don't even recognize the ditty, but of course whatever it is, it's the same 16 tinny bars repeated again and again and again.

And it makes me want ice cream. No matter how much I tell myself that it will be crappy ice cream not worth the name, I still want it.

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RuthW

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I take it back -- the ice cream sandwich was yummy, and the truck has moved off.

But how on earth do these people make a living selling ice cream sandwiches for a buck apiece?

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basso

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quote:
Originally posted by RuthW:
TICTH the ice cream truck parked out front right now. I don't even recognize the ditty, but of course whatever it is, it's the same 16 tinny bars repeated again and again and again.

In my neighborhood, which I'd guess is not to dissimilar to yours, they all play ¨Turkey in the Straw¨. Over and over, as you say.

Running that truck must be like being trapped in a musical greeting card, stuck on auto-play.

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Pyx_e

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I love you to bits but there is no point in my paying for Automobile Association membership for you if you leave the card at home.

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Pyx_e

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Ah that is sweet, the card was in the glove compartment all along. Sigh.

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Kyzyl

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I can't find the Black Dog thread from my iPad so TICTH depression for taking so, so many people.

RIP Robin Williams [Votive]

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orfeo

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TICTH the abrupt increase in my tinnitus at about 9:40 this morning. I know at least some of the reasons why it's happening, but that doesn't mean I have to like it, and I'd be a darned sight happier if I had a meaningful strategy to PREVENT it.

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Huia
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The racist and pig ignorant politicians standing for election in NZ.

Personally, I don't support the current Prime Minister, but to label him with a racist term and then claim you didn't know it was is just thick.

And then there is the usual anti-Chinese "joke"from someone who should know better.

Fuckwits!

[ 12. August 2014, 05:38: Message edited by: Huia ]

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The guy in the purple top in this video.

Way to get involved, purple top guy.

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Sioni Sais
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quote:
Originally posted by Lord Jestocost:
The guy in the purple top in this video.

Way to get involved, purple top guy.

Call me a cynic, heartless or something but where was mum when the buggy rolled?

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The dog that killed our 8-month kitten Gwenny at around 4 o'clock this afternoon. End.

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ChastMastr
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[Tear] [Votive]

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QLib

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quote:
Originally posted by Sioni Sais:
quote:
Originally posted by Lord Jestocost:
The guy in the purple top in this video.

Way to get involved, purple top guy.

Call me a cynic, heartless or something but where was mum when the buggy rolled?
Helping elderly family members down the stairs, apparently.

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The dog that killed our 8-month kitten Gwenny at around 4 o'clock this afternoon. End.

If Darllemwr hadn't, I would have. RIP Gwenny

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passer

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This guy.

Not to mention the writer of the comment under the article. From bad to worse.

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orfeo

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TICTH Facebook, for the twice-daily harassment if I don't use it for a bit.

Listen, you fuckers, I've already set the controls as to which kinds of events warrant a notification on my iPhone or by email. You don't get to suddenly bypass those controls because I've decided not to scroll through the increasing number of pointless ads and likes that you're chucking in my feed. You wonder why people are giving up on Facebook? BECAUSE YOU ACT LIKE A FUCKING STALKER, THAT'S WHY.

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JoannaP
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TICTH people who insist on following standard processes rigidly even in unusual circumstances. We are in this mess because I AM NOT WELL, therefore I am not getting things done in the usual timeframes. Is that really so hard to understand?

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Mrs Shrew

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Ticth colleagues.
I appreciate that telling management that a couple of you were spending forty, fifty minutes a day, EVERY DAY FOR Months, particularly tellingly, always including the time when all management leave together for a meeting each week, away from your desks chatting (note, not chatting AT desks but chatting away so UNABLE to do your jobs) was a breach of etiquette.

So was your being rude to me when I tried to confront you about it in person prior to deciding that managers had to be made informally aware.

I appreciate that you are pissed with me. However, this is now three weeks in. You have given malicious feedback to my manager, you have cast aspersions upon the fairness of a recent recruitment that led to me getting a secondment, you have DRAWN ON MY FUCKING CHAIR IN BIRO, you are waging a campaign of not talking to me and of snide remarks on half voices whenever I pass. Your point is made. The lesson is learnt.

It is my father in law's funeral tomorrow. Can I just have a fucking break for twenty four fucking hours?

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passer

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You snitched on a bunch of colleagues and now they're getting their own back? What did you expect them to do - thank you for setting them back onto the straight and narrow? They weren't doing their jobs properly (in your opinion) so you gave malicious feedback and now they're feeding back maliciously about you? You've now decided that their point is made and the lesson is learnt, and now you have a funeral to attend so you'd like them to suspend enemy activity to accommodate your personal situation? I'm afraid you need to take a reality check.
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Mrs Shrew

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I think you misunderstand the concept "malicious feedback" .
I had a quiet word with a manager mentioning that they may like to keep an eye because a large amount of time was being misspent.

I appreciate that "snitching" is frowned upon but can't see any other way you could resolve such a situation. If timing is deliberately made such that no managers are in sight when things happen, then how will they know unless someone tells them? Or are the rest of us expected to just cover their work for them endlessly?

I don't understand this cultural obsession with it being wrong to be the person who blows the whistle on wrongdoing.

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passer

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I appreciate that "snitching" is frowned upon but can't see any other way you could resolve such a situation.....

I don't understand this cultural obsession with it being wrong to be the person who blows the whistle on wrongdoing.

Wrongdoing? Pardon me if I misunderstood, but I thought that you had shopped them for slacking, not wrongdoing. Deciding how hard and how effectively an individual performs their role is the responsibility of the supervisory/management team, not co-workers. I agree that if they had proactively been engaged in wrongdoing (such as stealing, vandalism, or something that might bring the employing entity into disrepute) you would have a corporate/team responsibility to draw that to someone's attention. With regard to effort and productivity however, it's a management function to assess and measure the performance of the other staff, not yours.

To be clear, I sympathise with your plight, but it's of your own making. If you poke a wasp nest with a stick, you must expect a response. I'm pleased you've got the secondment, and hope it will lead to an exit strategy for you from somewhere where you appear to be unhappy.

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ExclamationMark
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quote:
Originally posted by passer:
[QUOTE] Wrongdoing? Pardon me if I misunderstood, but I thought that you had shopped them for slacking, not wrongdoing.

....proactively been engaged in wrongdoing (such as stealing, vandalism, or something that might bring the employing entity into disrepute) you would have a corporate/team responsibility to draw that to someone's attention.

Slacking = wasting time when there is an expectancy that you will be doing productive work. It's therefore theft or fraud.

Yes it is about scale but 80+ minutes lost each day is a rather more concerning issue than 5 minutes once a month. It does point to a certain attitude that I'd rather not have on a team.

If you prevent whistle blowing at this stage then you'll have problems in exposing bigger issues.

[ 13. August 2014, 14:09: Message edited by: ExclamationMark ]

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Sioni Sais
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I hope you guys are all at home and not surfing on the company's time.

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Lord Jestocost
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quote:
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Deciding how hard and how effectively an individual performs their role is the responsibility of the supervisory/management team, not co-workers. I agree that if they had proactively been engaged in wrongdoing (such as stealing, vandalism, or something that might bring the employing entity into disrepute) you would have a corporate/team responsibility to draw that to someone's attention. With regard to effort and productivity however, it's a management function to assess and measure the performance of the other staff, not yours.

Where it's the individual's productivity that's measured, that may be so. In this case it sounds like it's the team's productivity that is measured, and that is only being maintained by other colleagues picking up the slack. That's harder for management to pick up on, especially if they're not very good in the first place. Nor do we know (a) the organisation's management policy or (b) what other steps Mrs Shrew might have taken to get to this point. So I can certainly see situations where Mrs Shrew was entirely justified.

And, regardless, she can quite reasonably expect her co-workers to act like adults, FFS.

Lord Jestocost, who is at work but has achieved his objectives for the day and feels justified in a little Ship browsing ...

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Ariston
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And none of you even had to tattle to someone in charge for someone to notice this tangent developing into something threadworthy.

Hint. Hint hint.

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Sandemaniac
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The bastards nicking from the Italian Chapel.

The guys who built that place had more soul in their little fingers than you have all told, and I hope that every deed you do comes back to haunt you. And fuck you too.

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quote:
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I hope you guys are all at home and not surfing on the company's time.

When the company I used to work for first allowed staff to surf the net, productivity decreased by over 10%, They soon stopped it,
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orfeo

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Oh, TICTH human beings who think they know other human beings.

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Curiosity killed ...

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orfeo, I'm glad you did that, I was about to find a link to call those morons to Hell too

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quote:
Originally posted by Sandemaniac:
The bastards nicking from the Italian Chapel.

Yea and amen - may they rot. [Mad]

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AmyBo
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Separate from from the awesome Black Dog thread, TITCH my asshole acquaintance for using Robin Williams' death to reach out about how bad depression is and you should talk to someone if you're suicidal. It would just be obnoxious and not infuriating if you weren't a COMPLETE SHIT to me when I was on the really-depressed-but-not-suicudal-YET slide, thanks bitch.
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orfeo

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TICTH the person or persons unknown, working in another government agency approximately 15 years ago, who had some downright bizarre ideas about how legislation works and who left festering messes on the statute book as a result.

Messes. Plural. And I know it was the same people, because the same bizarre ideas keep underlying every provision on this particular subject created in a particular period, but not the ones created before or after that period.

[Help]

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Kelly Alves

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quote:
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Separate from from the awesome Black Dog thread, TITCH my asshole acquaintance for using Robin Williams' death to reach out about how bad depression is and you should talk to someone if you're suicidal. It would just be obnoxious and not infuriating if you weren't a COMPLETE SHIT to me when I was on the really-depressed-but-not-suicudal-YET slide, thanks bitch.

Oh yeah. Got one of those, too. "listen, I'm going through a bad funk, so could you back off with mean jokes for a bit?" "Yeah, I've noticed, and I wish you'd snap out of it and be fun again."

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Apologies if I am getting boring but TICTH the bastards again. They have found a way to dock me most of this month's pay. [Mad]
Knowing I am not well, they seem to be doing all they can to prevent me getting well and then punish me for not being well.
I almost wish I could believe it was done with malice aforethought; at least that would mean they saw me as a real person but I fear it is just mindless application of the rules.

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Sioni Sais
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quote:
Originally posted by orfeo:
TICTH the person or persons unknown, working in another government agency approximately 15 years ago, who had some downright bizarre ideas about how legislation works and who left festering messes on the statute book as a result.

Messes. Plural. And I know it was the same people, because the same bizarre ideas keep underlying every provision on this particular subject created in a particular period, but not the ones created before or after that period.

[Help]

Nothing to do with the pollies around at the time then? They are usually worth a mention.

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quote:
Originally posted by Sioni Sais:
Nothing to do with the pollies around at the time then? They are usually worth a mention.

Nah. Frankly, pollies don't go into the level of detail I'm talking about here. And in the case of my latest discovery, the change the pollies would have been asked to sign off on looks completely plausible on its own. It's only when you try to combine it with another provision in a related law that you realise it makes no sense whatsoever in context.

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TICTH a specific university's admin nonsense that's left a friend with NO idea of what's happening.....
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TICTH bovine, unthinking, unreflective, brick wall stupid complacent people. They can all fuck off, repeatedly until they are utterly exhausted and then do it all over again.

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TICTH my narcissistic boss, who high-jacked a meeting I was supposed to be chairing and, when I confronted him, said he'd done it 'for him'. WTF?

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no prophet's flag is set so...

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Personal watercraftholes.
Horseflies.

Someone may explain the difference between.

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Having to go through with a fine-toothed comb over the new semester's Course of Record and make sure that every link works, that every assignment is set up correctly, and so on, and I haven't even gotten to setting up the actual syllabus yet. [Waterworks]

Feeling like people think I'm a horrible person for believing the way I do. [Waterworks] [Waterworks]

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TICTH being completely unable to concentrate on what I'm supposed to be doing, even though it's really rather important (like preparing for Sunday's service). Dunno if it's tiredness, my brain already gearing up for a week off next week or what, but I just can't focus today (or most days, at the moment, TBH).

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