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Dafyd, you sense evil.

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Everybody roll readiness please at OK difficulty. Post your results here please.

[ 12. July 2014, 19:19: Message edited by: Doublethink ]

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10.

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Darn, you need to exceed 10 unless you have any buffs to boost it.

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quote:
Originally posted by Autenrieth Road:
I keep having the feeling that there's something significant about the caravan, why it's traveling at night, and what's in the fortified wagon, that we're supposed to find out and have been completely unable to discover. But I can't think of any other way to get at it that's consistent with our party's natures. As a result of not finding out, I'm expecting some horrible catastrophe to occur in Cimenster (and now we've created an execution ground, an ominous ceremony, and threats from the Sea Lord to add to the possible catastrophes) but even if a catastrophe that will give us more challenges to actively tackle.

And I'm pretty sure at least a few of our characters are picking this up as well. One the one hand, you're right—the character most likely to take the direct "kick in the door" approach would be Jetse; unfortunately, I think his skill set would lead to some very literal kicking in of doors and a fair bit of chaos. Could be fun, though. Almost better than sitting around waiting for something to happen. Could also get us all killed, but hey!

…okay, getting all of us killed is probably not the best course of action.

Instead, we might want to consider who has an appropriate skill set, or whose skill sets we can combine, and would be most likely to act out of character when the pressure's on. For instance, like half the Ship, I'm a horrid introvert. I hate interrupting people. I also like to have a paper trail, a record of every conversation, for backup when I have to deal with the accounting department. So, when I'm at work, I tend to do everything by email and avoid the phone. However, when a reviewer has blown a deadline and two extensions, I'll suck it up and call them. That's out of character for me, but it's still something I'll do.

So, now that things are getting a bit tense, and pretty much everything we've seen is telling us "find out what's really in those chests," maybe we should figure out who cracks under the pressure first and does something heroic.

ETA: even better example than me and the phone—Bilbo Baggins. Would plundering a dragon's horde be in character for Bilbo? Of course not! That's a point of the story—someone who was completely mild-mannered and ordinary did something that surprised even them!

[ 12. July 2014, 19:34: Message edited by: Ariston ]

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16.

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quote:
Originally posted by Doublethink:
Darn, you need to exceed 10 unless you have any buffs to boost it.

There's not a chance Jetse could use his spot skill here, is there?

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Rolling for that sounds like a good idea [Smile]

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quote:
Originally posted by Hart:
16.

You notice Trepik putting something in each ear, and arranging the flaps of his hat in an odd way. You notice all the wagoners have fiddled with their hats. They seem to have tied up the ear flaps in a way that makes it harder to look sideways - a bit like horses's blinkers.

Please outcome post.

[ 12. July 2014, 19:42: Message edited by: Doublethink ]

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Curiosity killed ...

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I did a readiness roll yesterday and got a 15 - do I need to do it again?

If the wagon team are blinkering themselves, would that be enough of a distraction to get into that wagon?

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Yes, you would roll again, this is a totally different action. Yes, you could try to get in the wagon if yu wish.

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Curiosity killed ...

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Roll for readiness was 2 !

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Bugger.

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Ain't good, 4.

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Nope not good enough I am afraid.

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quote:
Originally posted by Doublethink:
Rolling for that sounds like a good idea [Smile]

Whew. Okay, 13.

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Nice one, you notice the same things as Hart - and that the dwarves are fearful. They are are also winding their off hands (non-dominant) into the lead reins by the heads of the oxen. In the distance, very faintly, you think you hear choral singing.

Some of the caravan people have begun talking to themselves, repeating something soundlessly.

The guards are not looking out into the darkness where the singing is coming from, but looking fixedly ahead.

Please outcome post.

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I would suggest everyone takes a look over their skills and gifts lists, it is easy to end up only thinking of a few familiar possibilities.

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quote:
Originally posted by Doublethink:
I would suggest everyone takes a look over their skills and gifts lists, it is easy to end up only thinking of a few familiar possibilities.

Am I correct in thinking we are all immune to magical persuasion though we might not be aware of it yet? Given what appears to be coming that might be useful.

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Daniel gets a 1.

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quote:
Originally posted by Net Spinster:
quote:
Originally posted by Doublethink:
I would suggest everyone takes a look over their skills and gifts lists, it is easy to end up only thinking of a few familiar possibilities.

Am I correct in thinking we are all immune to magical persuasion though we might not be aware of it yet? Given what appears to be coming that might be useful.
You are indeed.

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quote:
Originally posted by Dafyd:
Daniel gets a 1.

Oh dear, you think you spot a familiar shape flitting from tree to tree at the edge of the wood to your left, having seen no sign of real danger - you decide to go and investigate, the others don't notice you leave.

Please outcome post.

(This is your out, I am taking this opportunity to have Daniel do a Captain Oats - so you can write it leaving your ultimate fate ambiguous, or die horribly - tis upto you what you would like to write for Daniel.)

[ 12. July 2014, 21:14: Message edited by: Doublethink ]

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You notice what Hart noticed, but now you see a dwarf straining to get away from the ox she tied her wrist to, blindly, mindlessly - her struggles remind you of a landed fish.

Please outcome post.

[ 12. July 2014, 21:54: Message edited by: Doublethink ]

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Frithwynne rolls a 6.

Help, we're walking past land sirens and half our group isn't noticing anything.

DT, are those who notice something allowed to point it out to those of us who haven't, especially since we seem to all be walking together (except for Banner Lady who's in a wagon)?

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I don't see why not. (Sadly 6 is a fail.)

[ 12. July 2014, 22:11: Message edited by: Doublethink ]

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I think we've built up a bit of a queue for outcome posts - perhaps someone will choose to share the information in their outcome post.

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Ariston, Frithwynne has Good Wits, Excellent Readiness, and Good Inspiration which can be bumped up to Excellent by a once-per-GM-weekly use of her chalice.

Perhaps use her chalice-buffed Inspiration to try to think of something? If DT is going to allow us to think of anything...

Or just wait and see what happens and spy on Trepik and where he delivers the gold when we get to Cimenster.

I'm not sure how much of this specific worry Frithwynne herself senses. But if someone else asks her for something she'll likely follow their lead.

Will knowing what's in the chests tell us anything? Or do we really need information, from Trepik about what he's doing and who he's doing it for?

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Gunriana also rolls a 1.

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£)(£(£) -//:}^%~^%#^) !!!!

Well, you don't notice anything strange initially, but when you go over to talk to one of the dwarf guards who seems to have got stuck in an oxbridle you manage to get your rune scarred hand trapped in the tangle between the dwarf, the ox, the rein and the yoke.

You are having to walk alongside the ox trying to get ot free without doing yourself an injury.

Please do an outcome post.

[ 12. July 2014, 22:33: Message edited by: Doublethink ]

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New GM Day

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I forgot, one member of the party is vulnerable to magical persuasion, Foret.

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Since we're immune to magical persuasion, that means we (except for Foret) are immune to the land sirens. So I think although we have been warned and are initially taking preventive action, I think it would be useful for us to inadvertently hear the strange singing, and realize that it is not affecting us the same way it's affecting the dwarves and oxen.

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Why sirens on land though? Actions by the shark lord? And are they singing anything we (or some of us) can understand (Dorainen might be the best bet on that)? They might explain the vanishing hamlets though. Was Trepik planning to throw Foret to them so they would leave the rest of the train alone? And us (or at least those of us he couldn't make a profit off of otherwise). He is in for a bit of a shock if we are immune (I'm not sure whether we have to roll at easy or something).

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1. We still haven't proven that it's magical persuasion. Could be something like a gorgon or basilisk—a sonic or visual attack, rather than enchantment.

2. We're all looking after Foret, no? I know Jetse looks at him as his protege (yes, looking for new talent to train is kind of a Jetse thing), but I doubt he's the only one. Keep the boy out of too much trouble, ya hear?

3. Is there any way we could find out what's actually in those chests? Not to use out of game knowledge, but I get the hint that they're kind of important, and assuming that they're full of gold or salt isn't the right answer.

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Readiness roll is a 7. Clawdine is going to snore this one through, because she is not able to be of any help at all.

[ 13. July 2014, 06:18: Message edited by: Banner Lady ]

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Curiosity killed ...

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Jetse/Ariston - I've sort of wondered about the bonded wagon in character. Always looking for opportunities Er. However, Er is unlikely to approach Jetse after the last encounter when Jetse was unresponsive. I started writing Er going to see what Jetse was doing in my game post and then thought why should Er go near Jetse when he had no response last time?

Of the gifts and skills that Er has there's the hempen hand - could that rescue Foret if he gets in danger? Or isn't Foret small enough. He hasn't found out he has that skill yet. And there are the cups that haven't been used yet that were Jack's.

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So, I'm kind of intrigued by the suggestion that Dorainen might be able to understand something from the song as it gets closer, given his established expertise in watery chanting. Would I need to roll something for this?

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(I forgot to tell you, you sense evil.)

Wellllll, try rolling inspiration at OK difficulty.

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I would like to use my singing skill to distract the dwarves & humans who are not immune.

I roll a 15.

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You don't have a singing skill ?

You could maybe distract with somekind of miracle ?

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quote:
Originally posted by Doublethink:
(I forgot to tell you, you sense evil.)

Wellllll, try rolling inspiration at OK difficulty.

10.

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Gaaah !! You are one short, please do a try and fail outcome post.

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Tried rolling for inspiration in Clawdine's sleep (like a prophetic dream). Rolled a 4 and failed. Sorry 'bout that. Clawdine continues to be entirely unhelpful to the crew.

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Damn, I forgot- I was going to have a singing skill but I lost it in the curse. Let me think on useless miracles for a minute.
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Banner Lady, how do you know your inspiration roll failed when DT hasn't yet told you at what difficulty level to roll? Granted, it's unlikely DT will tell you inspiration is Ridiculously Easy in this case, but who knows?

What I usually do is say what I want to do, wait for DT to tell me the difficulty level, and then either roll or decide I don't want to try it after all at those odds and save my roll for something else.

[ 14. July 2014, 01:29: Message edited by: Autenrieth Road ]

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Land sirens could also be rusalkas which would fit oddly with Daniel's skills. To quote Wikipedia they lived in rivers and

"In the middle of the night, they would walk out to the bank and dance in meadows. If they saw handsome men, they would fascinate them with songs and dancing, mesmerize them, then lead them away to the river floor to their death."

Their origin varied but were frequently described as the souls of young women who died untimely (suicide, murder).

Admittedly if them, Trepik going through in the middle of the night seems the height of foolhardiness.

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# 1984

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New GM Day

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All political thinking for years past has been vitiated in the same way. People can foresee the future only when it coincides with their own wishes, and the most grossly obvious facts can be ignored when they are unwelcome. George Orwell

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quote:
Originally posted by Autenrieth Road:
Banner Lady, how do you know your inspiration roll failed when DT hasn't yet told you at what difficulty level to roll? Granted, it's unlikely DT will tell you inspiration is Ridiculously Easy in this case, but who knows?

What I usually do is say what I want to do, wait for DT to tell me the difficulty level, and then either roll or decide I don't want to try it after all at those odds and save my roll for something else.

Being time poor over the last couple of days, I rolled, discovered it was very low, and decided to forego the "appropriate processes" in favour of keeping the story moving. Please forgive, if it has annoyed you all.
BL

[ 14. July 2014, 07:01: Message edited by: Banner Lady ]

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Doublethink.
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# 1984

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Wonders vaguely who is in what time zone.

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