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Thread: The Metagame for The Kavetseki Incident
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Net Spinster
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Should I roll to see whether I can stop the oxen or shall I assume I can slow/stop them and free Gunriana?
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Roll toughness at ***hard*** please ?
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Net Spinster
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quote:
Originally posted by Doublethink:
Roll toughness at ***hard*** please ?
13 so I don't think good enough.
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Doublethink.
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Sorry no, please do an outcome post.
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Autenrieth Road
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Frithwynne rolls 16 for ***find hidden*** at ***easy difficulty***! Hooray!
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Dorainen has a knife. Can he just cut Gunriana free?
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Net Spinster
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quote:
Originally posted by Hart:
Dorainen has a knife. Can he just cut Gunriana free?
Mary has a knife also but cutting the harness on a moving vehicle may be (a) difficult and (b) have interesting repercussions. She may try cutting next.
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Doublethink.
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New GM Day
(Sorry fell alseep again.)
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Doublethink.
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# 1984
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Originally posted by Autenrieth Road:
Frithwynne rolls 16 for ***find hidden*** at ***easy difficulty***! Hooray!
![[Smile]](smile.gif) will do outcome post.
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Doublethink.
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Frithwynne has noticed a clue ...
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Doublethink.
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Course, out of character speculation is encouraged on the meta thread ![[Cool]](cool.gif)
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Banner Lady
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A fine mesh - something designed to be lifted so the salt falls through it leaving the precious object cradled free in the mesh?
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Doublethink.
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*wiggles eyebrows speculatively*
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Doublethink.
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*cough*storypost*cough*
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Doublethink.
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Roll your your intuition at ***easy*** please.
[ 17. July 2014, 07:05: Message edited by: Doublethink ]
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Doublethink.
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I have done you an outcome post
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Autenrieth Road
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It works fine, CK, since Frithwynne has had her mental inspiration, but hasn't said anything yet.
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Curiosity killed ...
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I think Er's instinct would be to take a handful or so of the salt and whatever is in there to look at at leisure and lock the chests - as that's going to look as if it's Trepik who pilfered, not the party. What does the rest of the party think?
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Net Spinster
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Well that sort of depends on whether Trepik owns the items (in which case he has no need to pilfer) or is transporting for another. In either case Trepik will know he didn't do it. He might suspect us or he might suspect and punish some innocent.
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Doublethink.
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I am about for approx one hour, not sure what time I am back, so if you want to me to do stuff - post soon.
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Banner Lady
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Well, the logical thing to do would be to lift the mesh to ***find hidden*** and then decide what to do with it. Is it diamonds? Or the golden ship? Much easier to "relocate" a few diamonds than a large ornamental object. Knowledge is power.
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Doublethink.
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The hidden thing that was found, was the mesh.
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Banner Lady
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So can Er or Frithwynne lift it without having to roll again?
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Doublethink.
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Yup.
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New GM Day
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Ariston
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Hm…now, this is just a thought, but, if we were sitting around a table drinking beers (or Fernet Branca), I'd mention it…
There was a really shitty movie I once saw with an ex, in which the plot "twist" you could see coming from a mile away was that the chests holding the contraband counterfeit bills were filled with salt to weigh them down; the chests were tossed overboard from a ship before customs could come and search the vessel, but, when the salt dissolved, the chests floated to the surface.
Perhaps, given that Cimenster has ample water nearby, this might be the plan. A bit of water seeps in through the mesh, dissolves the salt, leaves behind…whatever…
Of course, why you would bother with the mesh rather than just let the water seep in through the cracks between pieces of wood should probably be explained. That's why I think it's not a good hypothesis, just a hypothesis.
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Eliab
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I'm on holiday for a week from today - I might have some internet access but I don't know how much or when.
DT - please feel free to decide what Gunriana is doing as appropriate. Her thinking at the moment is:
We are beholden to Trepik until he gets to Cimenster, and she also agreed to assist him once there in finding things out, spreading rumours, and helping him do any deal. Gunriana intends to honour that. She doesn't mind if Trepik's business is criminal, but would care if he were working for the enemy. She'll take no action against Trepik, and will try to assist him, but won't grass on other party members if she sees them spying or stealing. Ultimately, the Kavetseki group comes first.
Or you can decide that when she's finally freed on the wagon reins, she wrenches her arm and needs time to recover.
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Doublethink.
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The puppet mistress is consumed with evil laughter
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Doublethink.
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It would be helpful if Frith and Er were to leave the wagon soonish in realtime.
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Doublethink.
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Ta muchly
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New GM Day
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Is there anybody out there ?
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Yeah, I've been waiting for the business with the covered wagon to either get done, or create something Dorainen might see and respond to.
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Curiosity killed ...
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Did that solve the problem, Hart?
Would it be an idea for Er and/or Frithwynne and/or Dorainen to observe Gunriana trapped and attempt a rescue attempt with Frithwynne? Their combined skills and gifts might be able to do something?
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Banner Lady
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Yawn. ![[Snore]](graemlins/snore.gif)
As far as I can make out, Er and Frithwynne have gathered six handfuls of salt. They saw the mesh in the last box but didnt lift it.
Gunriana is still stumbling alongside the oxen waiting for her hand to be freed. Mary, Aethelreda, Dorainen, Jetse, Er and Frithwynne are able to interact as they walk but some of them have stopped up their ears. I presume a lot of pantomime will therefore be involved in their communications. Foret is under Jetse's command, shadowing the wagons. Clawdine is still snoring and we are "fast" approaching Cimenster.
Just in case you want to wake Clawdine, she will respond to water being dripped on her feet or face, or some grains of salt being dropped into her open mouth.
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Did that solve the problem, Hart?
Would it be an idea for Er and/or Frithwynne and/or Dorainen to observe Gunriana trapped and attempt a rescue attempt with Frithwynne? Their combined skills and gifts might be able to do something?
Wasn't a problem; I was enjoying it watching it play out even if my character wasn't.
But yes, Dorainen's now approached Er, so if Er was to lead him to Gunriana (or just suggest a walk to survey what was going on that would lead them to her anyway), he'd go along with that. I'll be away from the computer for a bit, but you can narrate me as going along with that.
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I'd want to give others the chance to suggest things too before doing anything ...
... but Frithwynne's skill with animals, Dorainen's healing and Er's skills with mechanical objects might be able to do something - and if Jetse is in reserve, there's always the nuclear option.
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New GM Day
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Originally posted by Curiosity killed ...:
I'd want to give others the chance to suggest things too before doing anything ...
... but Frithwynne's skill with animals, Dorainen's healing and Er's skills with mechanical objects might be able to do something - and if Jetse is in reserve, there's always the nuclear option.
I'm not sure if the skill with animals would be too helpful. We can't bring the ox to a standstill. If we did, given that all the wagoneers are keeping their heads down, we'd cause a pile up in the midst of a siren-like attack, which doesn't sound like a good idea. I'd suggest we just go with your mechanics skill, and then find a quiet place for Dorainen to do some healing. I'm sure we can find a wagon to do this in. (I think the way the narrative's been written so far, it would be odd for Dorainen to be able to heal while marching).
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I was thinking more calming the ox, which might allow it to be moved away enough, not stopping or disrupting the caravan.
Er hadn't realised going towards Dorainen he was moving away from Gunriana. He's been focussed on the chests and lost track of time. He was aiming for the member of his party that he could see other than those he is with - Jetse and Frithwynne. And Dorainen is up high so may well have a vantage point that lets him see where everyone else is now.
Er has grabbed handfuls of the contents of those boxes, but he would have aimed for anything unusual too. So he may well have diamonds or whatever included. He was trying to take samples of what is in the chests to check later, but not endanger the party.
[ 20. July 2014, 07:11: Message edited by: Curiosity killed ... ]
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Argh - I was hoping Frithwynne / Autenrieth Road would be along and could get involved - the more of us involved the more likely that we can throw enough rolls that get something solved.
But I'll post and ask about throwing for tinkering skills.
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quote:
Originally posted by Curiosity killed ...:
Argh - I was hoping Frithwynne / Autenrieth Road would be along and could get involved - the more of us involved the more likely that we can throw enough rolls that get something solved.
But I'll post and ask about throwing for tinkering skills.
My story post was meant to invite you to share the Frithwynne idea in character if you wanted to. I'm fine with waiting till AR comes online to act, especially as Dorainen will be the last to do anything. It would be good to have Gunriana free before whatever happens next happens though!
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I wasn't disagreeing, which is why I went with it, the sooner we get Gunriana free the better.
Hopefully we will have Jetse and Foret to help too.
Do we know where Mother Aethelreda is?
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Er if you roll for tinkering it will be at ***OK*** difficulty, but if the oxen are successfully calmed - then it will be at ***easy*** difficulty. The same applies if Mary Drake succeeds at ***OK*** difficulty to use rope use to control the oxen, prior to a tinkering attempt.
Frithwynne, if you try animal command on the oxen - you can roll at ***easy*** difficulty.
Cutting Guriana free would require someone with light weapons or hidden weapons use, anyone trying that would do so at ***easy*** difficulty.
Guriania is unable to do this herself.
[ 20. July 2014, 21:47: Message edited by: Doublethink ]
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