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You succeed thought what you find is not exactly your ordinary ox but rather the duke's prize bull kept against slaughter in hopes of restoring his herds one day. You should be able to get it to the harbor with little trouble. Once at the shore you will need help.

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I'm assuming D.'s knife isn't ideal for the slaughter, but is it passable? Does Jetse or anyone else have something better?

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Much, much better—and more impressive looking. I think an all-black rune-etched wave blade would be appropriate for the occasion, no?

Do I do the slaughter, or should someone else?

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Ariston, if you want you can role play Mary Drake offering the loan of Gunriana's Scramasax for the deed.

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Ariston, where is Jetse? Back at the dwarves' house? With Dorainen and Frithwynne ox-hunting? Somewhere else?

Net Spinster, ditto: where is Mary?

I had thought Jetse was with D and F, and we would go straight down to the harbor for the sacrifice and then return to the dwarves' house. Do we instead need to return to the dwarves' house to pick up either Jetse and/or scramasax?

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Mary is at the dwarves' house where you can assume she is working to organize defenses with the dwarf leaders and the guild leaders. Yaris might after all figure out what is going on and attack.

Not sure where Jetse is, but, you could role create some messengers (e.g., apprentices, dwarves). There may after all be several groups out looking for an ox.

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New GM Day

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Are y'all ready to go with the ox sacrifice ?

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I reckon I have two more story posts to conclude Gunriana's ritual - which I haven't written yet. I'll hold for a bit to let the narrative focus go above ground, and then we can bring the threads together.

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Are y'all ready to go with the ox sacrifice ?

I was hoping Ariston would weigh in with Jetse's whereabouts so I'd have a clue for how to narrate our route to the harbour. Failing that, I'll go ahead and get us down to the harbour now.

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New GM Day

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Jetse is soon to emerge from the shadows in which he lives. Worry not, the bull shall die.

(His avatar has been having an Interesting Week, filled with time in courtrooms. Keeper Ræven has suggested taking a sword to the lot of them, filling the rest with arrows. The avatar thinks this might get himself put in a rather unpleasant place once the Secret Service catches up with him; Jetse the Black does not see the downside. Oh Jetse...)

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Perhaps the GMs will provide some stand ins. We still have the petitioning assuming both sides survive until them.

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IRRC someone needs to make sure the ox's head is tossed into the sea.

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I have one more narrative post to finish the account of Gunriana's experience underground. I'll try to time that with the party's return to the tunnels. (Assuming you do return, of course).

That's unless DT wants to do some or all of the outcome before the chamber is unsealed - in which case please say.

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You'll need to roll Rune magic before we decide on outcome (ie whether you survive for example).

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IRRC someone needs to make sure the ox's head is tossed into the sea.

On it.

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We are assuming Gunriana's incantations are heard at the site of the sacrifice through the power of magic, as she is sealed in an earthen chamber more than a mile away.

Can I just congratulate everyone on the quality of the story posts around the this ritual - loving Gunriana's wild abandon, the ox emerging from the gates like smoke, and the soldier battling the waves.

Somewhat dependent on Gunriana's outcome, I am hoping Adam will get to strut his stuff in the healing phase after the rune magic is complete.

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The rite's over.

And something of the witchery must have carried over into real life because...

...I rolled a 20!

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Wooohooooo !!!

Everything works, go wild with your outcome description - at base you defeat the sharklord, but feel free to do exuberant description.

As a bonus for critical success, x1 per week, Gunriana can channel the voice of the world serpent, giving the target a single sentence instruction, They can only resist with an exceptional act of will (roll of 20). She will gain insight to fact she can do this in the course of your outcome post.

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New GM Day

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Do you want me to narrate the beginnings of D.'s attempt to heal G., and then roll for success; or roll and then do the whole thing in one post?

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Are we skipping narrating the part where Eliab had Gunriana say all must agree to open the wall? We're missing Jetse's and Mary's IC agreement.

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Good point; I'd forgotten that. I don't know how often I'll be able to look in on Sunday or Monday, though.

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New GM Day

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Paging Jetse

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It would be nice to have the dig described from Frithwynne's perspective - no roll is required at this stage.

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New GM Day

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Why Frithwynne, out of curiosity? Happy to comply; it will take me a few hours to envision it.

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Because Gunriana put you in charge of it.

You can role play Mary who has a lot of the necessary tools beside her and there are plenty of npcs (dwarves and men and at least one cat) to rely on.

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OK. I'll be back in the morning to try the healing (in 12 hours ish). Do you want me to roll before I post anything?

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Yes, please, a healing roll - don't roll a 1 !

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If you've ever done a first aid course and had a manual with illustrations of all the different sorts of wound - abrasion, incision, contusion, laceration, ... - that's pretty much what Gunriana will look like when you get to her. Plus a few chemical burns, and asphixiation.

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Yes, please, a healing roll - don't roll a 1 !

4.

[Well, it's not a 1!]

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K, you succeed but be sure to narrate it as a real struggle - you manage, but only just.

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Will do. I have a meeting a 10 minute drive away that I'm going to leave for now (50 minutes early), as there's the possibility of a big snow coming. If it hits, I might be stuck there and unable to get back to my computer till quite a bit later.

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Nice post Adam [Smile]

Also liked the birthing metaphor AR, v clever.

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New GM Day

(You need to gather yourselves, consider reburying Clawdine and plan for the petitioners hearing - may need some liasion re timing of proto-revolution. Last push guys, lets finish before Christmas.)

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Do we need Gunriana to recover before planning for the petition day? IC she's too damaged to come up with much in the way of new ideas, and OOC after she was the focus of the ritual, I think it's time to switch to another character taking the lead on the political end-game.

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I think we maybe need to plan here quite what we're going to do at the petitioners' hearing. Do we just show up and say, "Oh, you know that Shark Lord? We dealt with him for you. No biggie. And Yaris, she's a crook. K. Thx. Bye."

I'm going to go with not doing that. But I'm not sure I have a better idea.

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OK, thinking about this some more. What do our characters actually *want*? Ultimately, Dorainen wants a home and fulfilling work. He'd be perfectly happy to stay in Cimenster in a kind of Surgeon General kind of role.

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OK, thinking about this some more. What do our characters actually *want*? Ultimately, Dorainen wants a home and fulfilling work. He'd be perfectly happy to stay in Cimenster in a kind of Surgeon General kind of role.

Gunriana was looking for revenge.

Currently, she is an emotional wreck and could be persuaded to go along with practically anything. Petitioning the guilds with an indictment against Yaris for betraying the city is the sort of thing she was thinking the party would do.

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How about using her snake power to get a public confession out of Yaris?

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How about using her snake power to get a public confession out of Yaris?

Well, she could, but the thing about the snake power is that it's evil. It scares her.

Dorainen could probably talk her into it (if he's earwigging her conversation with Frithwynne, or if Frithwynne tells him about it, then he will know that she can do the command thing), if he thinks that's the best plan.

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OK, here's my idea. We want the whole truth to out at the petitioners' hearing. We want this for a few reasons: it will lead to the town turning on Yaris; it will lead to the town rewarding us (which both constitute revenge); we still don't really know the whole story of why we were magically trapped for 20 years and would quite like to.

However, we can't do all this truth telling ourselves, again for a few reasons: the people might not believe us; we don't know all the details behind Yaris' plot, particularly her involvement in our captivity; we can't speak of the Kavetseki without choking.

One question I'd like to check with a GM before I post in story: do we know we can't speak of the K. without choking?

If so, it seems to me that we need to get Yaris to publicly confess. While there might be more humane ways to do it, magic would seem the most obvious (and dramatic). We can still go, present our evidence and hold the magic as an ace in the hole.

Also, looking back at the first post in story, the mercer (and, hence, Yaris, presumably) didn't know of Gunriana or Jetse's presence on board. They had put Dorainen there and consented to Frithwynne's presence. Simply the sight of a witch and a soldier of repute in this company should shock Yaris, which might produce an excited utterance of some value, or at least give us the advantage of surprise..

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Experentially, you knew about the choke binding - but that was before Frithwynne obtained the ship ....

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