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ChastMastr
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Originally posted by Sandemaniac:
Besides, isn't a bloke in a bowler hat and a lass in lycra far more interesting than a bunch of superheroes?
Different tastes... ![[Biased]](wink.gif)
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Anyone else out there remember Budgie with Adam Faith and Iain Cuthbertson?
I do indeed (actually it may have been a repeat), and in particular an episode about a deeply iffy crowd of greyhound-racing chaps, with the immortal line from Mr. Cuthbertson's character:
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Iain Cuthbertson also starred in Sutherland's Law, an interesting drama series about a procurator fiscal and used Hamish McCunn's Land of the Mountain and the Flood for its theme music.
I was a bit too young to appreciate it, although I remember the music, and my parents watching it. I think it would bear repeating.
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I remember the music, too (and of course have heard it many times since). On a tangent, think about Hamish MacCunn's reputation: he was the star pupil of his year at the RCM, he composed Land of the Mountain and the Flood when he was 19, he lived another thirty years- but that piece is all that anyone remembers him for.
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Speaking of Hamish, I was given a DVD of "Hamish Macbeth" at Christmas. I'd forgotten what an enjoyable series that was.
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I remember being hot under the collar about the sexism of "I Dream Of Jeanie" after not having seen it for at least a decade and then rediscovering it this past year--and laughing my ass off. The late Larry Hagman was a genius at physical comedy and the show is hilarious. Yeah, the "Master" stuff gets tired but hey, she IS a genie, after all and she never "obeys" her Master as much as she does whatever the hell she wants anyway. "Bewitched" is more sexist than "I Dream Of Jeanie". Both shows are on, back to back on some obscure station we get with our AT&T Cable package. Both are hilarious but Jeanie gets to use her magic more than poor Samantha. I'll tell you, if I found out my wife was really a witch, I would NEVER forbid her from using her powers. We'd be out stopping crime and zipping around the world with a blink of whatever body part caused her magic to manifest!
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[QB] The Andy Griffith Show is my all time favorite. It can be very funny, but the main reason I like it is that I just love all the characters.
Yep. I've even seen it used in Sunday school classes.
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Originally posted by Ariel:
I'd forgotten what an enjoyable series [Hamish Macbeth] was.
I loved that too, especially Wee Jock. ![[Smile]](smile.gif)
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Ariel
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Indeed, Wee Jock was the star of the show.
On another note, I'’ll be interested to see the new Poldark series when it starts. I loved the original one, and enjoyed the books as well as the TV version with Robin Ellis. I can’t say the new replacement looks as if he has the charisma that Ellis had, but I'll wait and see how it goes. Meanwhile, I've sent off for a DVD for the first (original) series.
It's going to be odd seeing Robin Ellis back in it but as an elderly clergyman. No doubt he felt the same.
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Hands down, "The Twilight Zone" …
The writing was often outstanding, the plot twists intriguing, often with a deep philosophical mystery … How far can Reality bend and still be really real … ???
In addition, many young actors made an early career appearance before they hit their stride and became famous … I recall William Shatner as an unfortunate soul just out of a psych hospital … He's on a commercial airliner going home, and is apparently the only one who can see the monster on the wing tearing into the engine nacelle … (In later episodes he would have called up "Scotty" ti fix it …)
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I agree- Twilight Zone. One episode firmly etched in my mind is about an old man, a book lover, who seems to be the only survivor of a war which demolished everything but the library. He was delighted to have the place all to himself, and looks forward to reading to his heart's content for the rest of his life. As he climbs the steps to the library his glasses fall off (he was virtually blind without them). While trying to locate the glasses, he steps on them & smashes the lenses. Brings me to tears just remembering it.
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Originally posted by Ariel:
... It's going to be odd seeing Robin Ellis back in it but as an elderly clergyman. No doubt he felt the same.
For some reason I thought he had died (I know Angharad Rees, who played Demelza in the original, did).
I enjoyed the original - it'll be interesting to see if the new version makes it over the Pond.
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ChastMastr
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Originally posted by The5thMary:
"Bewitched" is more sexist than "I Dream Of Jeanie". Both shows are on, back to back on some obscure station we get with our AT&T Cable package. Both are hilarious but Jeanie gets to use her magic more than poor Samantha. I'll tell you, if I found out my wife was really a witch, I would NEVER forbid her from using her powers. We'd be out stopping crime and zipping around the world with a blink of whatever body part caused her magic to manifest!
Well, I would say that Darrin was sexist, but I don't think the show was. Indeed, Samantha was pretty much the most competent person on the show and figured out how to resolve the various issues that came up.
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I especially miss the programmes which never get repeated any more:
- The Goodies (I've never worked out why that's never been repeated on UK Gold or stuff like that)
- Tales of the Riverbank (The original ones)
- The Herbs
- White Horses (seriously -I loved the awful overdubs into English)
And The Muppet Show. I loved the Muppet Show.
And I had a strange love for Watching, with Paul Bown and Emma Wray. It was not that good, but I adored it.
And 3rd Rock from the Sun....
(I remember Budgie, too.)
A word of caution, though. I loved watching That 70s Show with my kids. But recently, when I worked my way through almost all the programmes in sequence, I found that only Season 2 was really any good. And even that was only good in parts. After season 3, it became almost unwatchable. So disappointing, as I had such fond memories.
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Re "Bewitched":
T5M--
By any chance is the "obscure station" on which you see it "KRON Classic TV"? That's one of the broadcast retro stations we have here in San Francisco. It has the "Bewitched"-->"Jeannie" lineup you mentioned, with "Doogie Howser, MD" right before.
One of my favorite "Bewitched" episodes was on the other night--the one where Sam and Darrin are touring a colonial museum in Salem, MA, and a bedwarmer kept following Sam around. Turned out that it was a male witch who'd been turned into a bedwarmer 300 years ago, to hide him from the witch finders. More sexism than I remembered, but still a good episode.
Chast--
Darrin may have been somewhat sexist, but I think he was mostly deeply uncomfortable with Sam's witchcraft, people arriving magically at all hours,...and then there was Endorra. I think he was trying desperately to keep everything from spinning out of control.
The bedwarmer episode was towards the end of the series, when Tabitha had a mortal brother, Adam. If the series had lasted, that would've meant more balance in the household. And Darrin and Endorra were getting on a *bit* better. So Darrin could relax more.
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Originally posted by Oscar the Grouch:
...And I had a strange love for Watching, with Paul Bown and Emma Wray. It was not that good, but I adored it.
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and Liza Tarbuck too, if I remember correctly.
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Originally posted by ArachnidinElmet:
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Originally posted by Oscar the Grouch:
...And I had a strange love for Watching, with Paul Bown and Emma Wray. It was not that good, but I adored it.
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and Liza Tarbuck too, if I remember correctly.
Well remembered!
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Endorra was my favourite character in Bewitched!
There was a spin-off, too, called Tabitha, in which Samantha's daughter becomes a teenager.
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If you haven't seen the movie "Bell Book and Candle" it was the source for Bewitched. It's very much a gay subtext movie (There's an underground night club in Greenwich Village where the magical crowd hangs out.
I've been getting tempted to try and find an old favorite "Married, With Children". At its best it acquired a certain classical mythic quality.
Modern Family is more politically correct but not a substitute.
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Originally posted by Eigon:
Endorra was my favourite character in Bewitched!
There was a spin-off, too, called Tabitha, in which Samantha's daughter becomes a teenager.
I love every appearance by Paul Lynde -- funny, funny, funny guy ...
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ChastMastr
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Ah, I remember Tabitha. It lasted about five seconds or so. I seem to have liked shows that didn't last long, like Out of the Blue (about an angel, named Random, who has to help a slightly (1970s US TV standards) dysfunctional family) which wasn't quite a spin-off of the Happy Days franchise but did have a tie-in episode of Joanie Loves Chachi in which Random talks Chachi out of suicide or something), Galactica 1980s, and such. But then, I was around 12 when these were on, so if I saw some of them now, I might think they were awful.
Tabitha actually featured Tabitha as a young career woman, which was odd as she wouldn't be that old by then.
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ChastMastr
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Originally posted by Teilhard:
I love every appearance by Paul Lynde -- funny, funny, funny guy ...
I have the Paul Lynde Halloween Special on DVD, I believe.
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Erin Murphy, the actress who played little Tabitha appears in promos for the "Bewitched" reruns, and (IIRC) hosted a marathon.
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Albertus
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Originally posted by Oscar the Grouch:
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[*]The Goodies (I've never worked out why that's never been repeated on UK Gold or stuff like that)
Nor have Tim, Bill and Graeme! the BBC did a few, once, about 5 years ago.
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How come everyone raves about Bewitched while ignoring I dream of Jeannie?
The latter was not a bad show and the chemistry between Larry Hagman and Barbara Eden was far better than the perpetual froideur between Dick York and Elizabeth Montgomery.
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When Richard Briers died, I remembered how much I'd loved the show 'Ever Decreasing Circles' in my childhood, so I found it on Youtube and watched all the episodes again, and found I still love it.
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There's one old 70s detective show that never seems to get a rerun: "Harry O" starring David Janssen. I loved it.
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Originally posted by L'organist:
How come everyone raves about Bewitched while ignoring I dream of Jeannie?
The latter was not a bad show and the chemistry between Larry Hagman and Barbara Eden was far better than the perpetual froideur between Dick York and Elizabeth Montgomery.
Dick Sargent and Elizabeth Montgomery, however, were both hilarious. But by the time Dick Sargent was on the show, the show was getting old and had mostly run its course. Still, my hat is off to Dick Sargent for being so willing to do physical comedy and to have his character frequently look foolish. Dick York was a terrible "Darrin". I just never believed that he and Samantha could be in love.
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By any chance is the "obscure station" on which you see it "KRON Classic TV"? That's one of the broadcast retro stations we have here in San Francisco. It has the "Bewitched"-->"Jeannie" lineup you mentioned, with "Doogie Howser, MD" right before.
No, Golden Key, it's a station that's mostly a FARM station that has cattle auctions and weird shows about why the U.S.A. is the greatest country in the entire world and all other countries wish to be like us...AND a right wing Messianic rabbi spouting bizarre things. No "Doogie Howser, M.D.", thank you, God. Fantasy Island, Barney Miller (gad, talk about old!), Starsky and Hutch, All In the Family, Sanford and Son. Yuck. I only watch I.D.O.J and Bewitched.
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Yesterday I watched an episode of another old show that I really like, Firefly. I've already seen it once so I'm not binge watching it like I did West Wing, just sort of slowly savoring it...
There are other old shows which I've discovered or rediscovered in the past. Starsky and Hutch, Kolchak: The Night Stalker, Danger: UXB, and Ellery Queen. I saw Starsky and Hutch mentioned above, anyone remember any of the others?
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"Andy Griffith" … I can whistle the entire theme song, after all these years …
Barney Fife … Aunt Bee … Opie … Floyd, the barber …
I LOVED those characters ...
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My favorites include (in no particular order) M*A*S*H, Are You Being Served?, Father Ted, and Keeping Up Appearances.
(I may or may not have spent far too much time watching "Best of British Television" reruns on late-night PBS...
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Originally posted by Nicolemr:
There are other old shows which I've discovered or rediscovered in the past. Starsky and Hutch, Kolchak: The Night Stalker, Danger: UXB, and Ellery Queen. I saw Starsky and Hutch mentioned above, anyone remember any of the others?
Ellery Queen was great, but a victim of bad timing. I have the complete series on DVD. Jim Hutton was brilliant as Ellery. David Wayne made a perfect father to him as Inspector Queen. The series only lasted one year. ![[Frown]](frown.gif)
I say it had bad timing because it ran in 1975-76 and didn't get a following. Eight years later, "Murder She Wrote" with Angela Lansbury came along, being very similar in concept and tone (folksy mystery, with clues a-plenty for the viewer to try to figure out the mystery before the detective) and it became very successful.
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Hedgehog, yes, it was ahead of it's time. I loved it so when it was on... I had my first crush on Jim Hutton. I have the dvds and they hold up really well to time.
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My favorites include ... Father Ted
Flipping heck! I was going to say that Father Ted is not an old show but we are six weeks away from the twentieth anniversary of the first episode!
Down with this sort of thing!
Careful now...
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At one stage Father Ted was banned for students at Maynooth and any seminarian found watching it was sent home ![[Snigger]](graemlins/snigger.gif)
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At one stage Father Ted was banned for students at Maynooth ...
A friend of ours who was at the Church of Ireland theological college when Father Ted first came out told us about a class trip to Maynooth, where they met their RC counterparts. When the subject came up, one wag said "But of course we've watched it. It's used here as a training video".
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I just saw a great "Bewitched" episode, called "Sisters At Heart".
{SPOILERS, because it's such a great episode.}
An African-American man had joined the advertising company. He and his wife bring their daughter, Lisa, for a sleepover with her friend Tabitha, 2 days before Christmas. Everyone is ok about it.
Larry (the boss) and Darrin have been trying to get a big account. Through one thing and another, the client thinks Darrin is married to Lisa's mom...and he cancels the account, without explaining.
Meanwhile, the girls are playing at being sisters, and Tabitha changes their colors back and forth.
The client rethinks, and comes over for a Christmas Eve party. He brings a black doll for Lisa, a white one for Tabitha--and he jokes that, since he didn't know what color baby Adam is, he wanted to cover his bases...and hands over a black and white, toy panda. The matter gets explained.
While Samantha and Darrin are upstairs, explaining to the girls that they don't have to be the same color to be sisters, and trying to change them back, Larry is chatting with the client, who wants to bring his account back. Having watched the dynamics, Larry asks, "You canceled the account when you thought there was a mixed marriage, and came back when you found there wasn't, right?", and the client agreed. Larry (who is practically sociopathic in his work life) shocks even himself by telling the client to take his business elsewhere.
Darrin and Samantha come downstairs during this. He suggests this might be a really good time to break the household rule about magic--and Samantha makes the client see himself and everyone else as having dark skin. He leaves
Next day, the two families are having Christmas dinner together. The client comes by, and apologizes very well. Quite openly says that he discovered he's not only a racist, but a sneaky one. There are various peace-making comments (acknowledging that, while he has a problem, he's at least starting down the right path). Sam invites him to stay for dinner. Client accepts, and asks Darrin if there's any chance of hiring the firm again. Darrin says to wait until after dinner.
I don't remember this episode from childhood at all--but I'm very please with the way it was so honest and blunt about racism.
Watch it, if you get the chance!
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When I heard that a new series of Twin Peaks is in production, I was super excited. I really hope they don't screw it up. I still think it's one of the best shows ever. So much modern TV owes a lot to it.
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When I heard that a new series of Twin Peaks is in production, I was super excited. I really hope they don't screw it up. I still think it's one of the best shows ever. So much modern TV owes a lot to it.
I'm ambivalent about Twin Peaks. The first ever episode was staggering. But after that, it kinda declined quite rapidly.There were some nice bits and I still watched it all - but they set the bar so high with the first episode that everything that came afterwards suffered in comparison.
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