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Alex Cockell
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quote: Originally posted by RooK: Café development for issues affecting more than three people are slow going. I suggest avoiding Ubuntu build 10.04 if the Café is really that important to you.
It's the next Long-Term Support build, so may I suggest that tests against the IcedTea and OpenJDK version of Java is put on the maintenance list?
This is likely to affect all used of Mint, Dell's next major release of Linux (as they are downstream of Ubuntu LTS) etc.
I'm just giving you all a heads-up.
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rufiki
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Sorry Alex, but I still don't understand why Ubuntu users won't be able to download their Java directly from Sun - regardless of whether it's in the repositories.
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Alex Cockell
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quote: Originally posted by rufiki: Sorry Alex, but I still don't understand why Ubuntu users won't be able to download their Java directly from Sun - regardless of whether it's in the repositories.
Easier and safer for all concerned if it's coming from Canonical's repos...
Rather than having to muck about with tarballs...
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Jahlove
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regardless of the technical issues involved, bottom line is, and has been since this *redevelopment* - the SoF cafe is not something anyone who is in a position to do anything about it gives a toss about - if they did, there would have been sound at least a long while ago [ 17. February 2010, 21:03: Message edited by: Jahlove ]
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Wesley J
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A sound demand, methinks. Thank you.
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Janine
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I'm in the Ubuntu/Linux/Mint crowd right now. Plan on the big upgrade in the spring.
I haven't had sound since the Cafe revamp however many years back -- and I really need the sound to be able to use it properly. So I don't go to the Cafe much. I used to really enjoy it.
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RooK
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quote: Originally posted by Alex Cockell: may I suggest that tests against the IcedTea and OpenJDK version of Java is put on the maintenance list?
Absolutely. And we do appreciate the heads-up.
I apologize for the snark; it just does seem like the Café is very slow to be updated.
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Doublethink.
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Linux compatiblility is going to be more of an issue over time, as mass marketed netbooks are starting to come out with it as an OS.
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rufiki
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quote: Originally posted by Alex Cockell: quote: Originally posted by rufiki: Sorry Alex, but I still don't understand why Ubuntu users won't be able to download their Java directly from Sun - regardless of whether it's in the repositories.
Easier and safer for all concerned if it's coming from Canonical's repos...
Rather than having to muck about with tarballs...
No, still not with you. Are you really saying that there's a big risk in downloading a product from Sun Microsystems? A risk so great that our volunteer developers should spend extra time working on this just for the benefit of a handful of users?
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Paul.
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OK - because I am sad and have no life I set up a VM, installed the latest test version of "Lucid Lynx" (i.e. Ubuntu 10.04) and attempted to log in to the cafe.
I had to install openJDK but once I'd done that it worked fine.
Everything seemed ok. I could see everyone, their icons etc. I successfully pm'd Alex so that works. I changed the font size.
I checked and it didn't have Sun Java installed so it's not like it was really using that.
So that's that.
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RooK
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Incidentally, development work on the Café costs money.
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Uncle Pete
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quote: Originally posted by RooK: Incidentally, development work on the Café costs money.
Pots and pots of it
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Doublethink.
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Roughly how much to get sound ?
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monkeylizard
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[Dr. Evil] One meeeeelion dollars, muahahaha [/Dr. Evil]
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Tubbs
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quote: Originally posted by Think²: Roughly how much to get sound ?
Probably depends on how much else needs to be done in order to get it.
Tubbs
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Paul.
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quote: Originally posted by Think²: Roughly how much to get sound ?
It would be nice to have a response to this because I'd be willing to contribute towards sound in the cafe.
Alternatively, if it would help, I'd be willing to donate some time as a programmer to the effort.
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Wesley J
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Question: What happens when St Pixels transfer to a new server and are all re-done, as announced recently? Will the SoF Cafe be lost? (The addy is at stpixels.)
Thanks for your comment - whoever it may concern.
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pease
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quote: Originally posted by Wesley J: Question: What happens when St Pixels transfer to a new server and are all re-done, as announced recently? Will the SoF Cafe be lost? (The addy is at stpixels.)
We'll find a suitable vessl in which to keep it afloat...
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Wesley J
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Thanks. So we shall be at pease.
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Doublethink.
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fallen off again
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Doublethink.
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*and again*
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rufiki
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I fell out, and it won't let me back .
ETA: snap! [ 24. March 2010, 22:24: Message edited by: rufiki ]
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Alex Cockell
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Same here - cafe crashed on me..
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Doublethink.
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And me.
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Doublethink.
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Fell out.
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Doublethink.
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Fell out AGAIN
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Paul.
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Just got booted out and can't get back in.
Will try again in 15mins
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Wesley J
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Same here. Cafe crashed.
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Doublethink.
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I am giving up for the night - gnight guys.
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Doublethink.
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Fell out again.
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Doublethink.
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Back in - with the ghost of Wes.
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Doublethink.
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Fallen out again
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Mamacita
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Sig check
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Doublethink.
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Fell off again
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Wesley J
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So you did. Connection problems, praps?
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Alex Cockell
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Fell out suddenly.. what happened?
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Japes
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Me, too. Won't let me back in!
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Wesley J
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I'm getting a security warning before the Cafe log-in screen is loading:
quote: The application's digital signature has an error. Do you want to tun the application? [...] The digital signature was generated with a trusted certificate but has expired.
FYI. Thank you.
-------------------- Be it as it may: Wesley J will stay. --- Euthanasia, that sounds good. An alpine neutral neighbourhood. Then back to Britain, all dressed in wood. Things were gonna get worse. (John Cooper Clarke)
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Gwaelod
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You can quite safely continue to use the software, nothing has changed, except time. Just tick the box to say you continue to trust the software as you have done for quite some time and carry on.
The certificate on the application has expired and a new one was ordered last week. We'll apply it as soon as we get it.
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Wesley J
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Thought as much. Many thanks, Gwaelod.
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Alex Cockell
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Devs,
Any chance we could have support for https:// clickableURLs in the cafe, as well as http:// ones?
THanks
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Doublethink.
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fell out again
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Wesley J
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Works fine for me. You might be stuck, however.
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Doublethink.
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fell off
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Doublethink.
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fallen off again
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