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Thread: Café now testing
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Melon
Ship's desserter
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Blaise, it sounds to me like you need to upgrade to the latest version of Sun java, as that version will know what to do with a jnlp file (the thing you are currently being invited to save).
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French Whine
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Blaise
Apprentice
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Thanks; I'll try that.
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Autenrieth Road
Shipmate
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quote:
Originally posted by Gwaelod:
You need to be able to avoid using the proxy server for this application.
How come?
/s/
Curious
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Melon
Ship's desserter
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Because it won't work ![[Cool]](cool.gif)
Basically, proxies play tricks with IP traffic that tend to break applications like chatrooms that rely on a direct and persistant connection between your PC and the server.
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French Whine
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bbio
Apprentice
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I am still stuck with this error - other java stuff works - what is wrong, anyone know?
Socket thread started
IO Error (java.net.ConnectException: Connection timed out: connect)
java.net.PlainSocketImpl : socketConnect at line -2
java.net.PlainSocketImpl : doConnect at line -1
java.net.PlainSocketImpl : connectToAddress at line -1
java.net.PlainSocketImpl : connect at line -1
java.net.SocksSocketImpl : connect at line -1
java.net.Socket : connect at line -1
java.net.Socket : connect at line -1
java.net.Socket : <init> at line -1
java.net.Socket : <init> at line -1
uk.co.darkgreenmedia.faverolle.SocketComms : run at line 98
java.lang.Thread : run at line -1
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Melon
Ship's desserter
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You need to open port 25424 in your firewall?
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French Whine
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Sir Kevin
Ship's Gaffer
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I miss the sounds and the ready-made smileys.
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Jack o' the Green
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quote:
Originally posted by Sir Kevin:
I miss the sounds and the ready-made smileys.
There are smilies. Ask Curiosity Killed... She's the expert. e.g. : cool : (no spaces)
[ 05. April 2008, 17:12: Message edited by: Angus McDangley ]
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Curiosity killed ...
Ship's Mug
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There are 6 smileys at the last update:
Three you can type using a colon : and
open brackets ( ![[Frown]](frown.gif) ,
close brackets ) ![[Smile]](smile.gif)
or a p ![[Razz]](tongue.gif)
The final three you have to type the words in between two colons: wink ![[Biased]](wink.gif) , votive ![[Votive]](graemlins/votive.gif) , cool. You also get to by typing frown between two colons, by typing tongue and by typing smile all between two colons.
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Chelley
Ship's Old Boot
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Hello people in there (who I seem to have spent a good part of my days off talking random nonsense with!) - still trying to get my computer sorted - posting this from TeenSon's. I suppose misbehaving computers are a good way of actually getting other things done... but if it carries on much longer it's going to find itself thrown through a window! ![[Disappointed]](graemlins/disappointed.gif)
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Alex Cockell
Ship’s penguin
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quote:
Originally posted by Melon:
You need to open port 25424 in your firewall?
Umm - what would be the feasibility of adding a passive-mode option to the client? Similar to passive-mode FTP... the client initiates the connection, as it sounds like the server is initiating the connection down that port...
Is that 25424:TCP or UDP?
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bbio
Apprentice
# 13236
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is opening a port in a firewall possible?
and as for what Alex said - well, I guess it is english, but not as I know it!!
How do I access a firewall to open a port?
Or would that be inadvisable for someone who has to ask the question?
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Melon
Ship's desserter
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The connection is initiated by the client, which means it works with most firewalls, but particularly fascist ones block outgoing traffic too.
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French Whine
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rufiki
Ship's 'shroom
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Was just in the Cafe, chatting away happily, and new posts stopped coming up (including my own). Logged out and attempted to log back in again, but can't get past the blue screen.
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rufiki
Ship's 'shroom
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This is what the "Logger" says:
code:
Socket thread started
Buffer position = 0
Received XML = '<contexts>
<user_context xmlns:xcr="http://xcruciate.co.uk" id="a2128" name="reception"/>
</contexts>'
Context changed event fired
<commands/>
Round trip = 114 milliseconds
Buffer position = 0
Received XML = '<abilities>
<user_ability xmlns:xcr="http://xcruciate.co.uk" id="a2129" name="visitor"/>
</abilities>'
No consumer for nodes with name of 'abilities'
Buffer position = 0
Received XML = '<xcr:available_commands>
<xcr:command name="commands"/>
<xcr:command name="describe_commands"/>
<xcr:command name="describe_command"/>
<xcr:command name="registered"/>
<xcr:command name="unregistered"/>
</xcr:available_commands>'
New commands incoming
Command list complete for current context
New commands event fired
<registered pass="[my password]" user="rufiki"/>
Round trip = 292 milliseconds
Buffer position = 0
Received XML = '<xcr:message category="term"
[ 06. April 2008, 16:38: Message edited by: rufiki ]
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rufiki
Ship's 'shroom
# 11165
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Rebooted my computer and it's fine now.
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_Feh
Shipmate
# 10899
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I am feeling thoroughly defeated by this new cafe. I can't get in. I download the java program, I checked the ports, I changed my password... I still can't get in. Am I just trying at a bad time?
I keep getting this message that says "Unknown Error: The User Attribute is of the Wrong Type."
And others of the same ilk as those previously posted.
![[Waterworks]](graemlins/bawling.gif) ![[Help]](graemlins/help.gif)
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Melon
Ship's desserter
# 4038
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_Feh, if there's an underscore in your username I think I can fix that.
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French Whine
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Melon
Ship's desserter
# 4038
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Nope, I allow _ already. PM me if your login name includes any other unusual characters.
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French Whine
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lapsed heathen
Hurler on the ditch
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The chatroom thingy 'Faverolle' is on my desktop and when i run it 9 times out of 10 it opens the cafe straight away. Every so often it redownloads the software, why?
And can I bypass this seemingly usless timewaste?
Thanks for the whole thing btw its good to have the cafe back.
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Paul.
Shipmate
# 37
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quote:
Originally posted by lapsed heathen:
The chatroom thingy 'Faverolle' is on my desktop and when i run it 9 times out of 10 it opens the cafe straight away. Every so often it redownloads the software, why?
It's not re-downloading it's updating the software. If you notice several times in this thread Melon or Gwaelod will have said that they fixed such and such a bug and have updated the software. When they do that the next time you run it, it automatically updates itself.
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Melon
Ship's desserter
# 4038
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That's right. You used to download the old café 10 times out of 10 - it's just that it didn't tell you what was going on.
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French Whine
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Legodude_uk
Protector of Zebras
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Still getting issues with being kicked out and getting back in... Even tried re-booting, but no success
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_Feh
Shipmate
# 10899
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The only unusual character I use is the underscore. Still can't get in.
If it matters, I use Windows Vista and Firefox. And this is the error I get after the "User Attribute is of the wrong type" one:
Unexpected disconnection (java.io.EOFException)
java.io.DataInputStream : readByte at line -1
uk.co.darkgreenmedia.faverolle.SocketComms : run at line 120
java.lang.Thread : run at line -1
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_Feh
Shipmate
# 10899
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Sorry to double-post, but I think the problem is my underscore. I may be running the risk of incriminating myself, but I created a puppet by the name of 'chattingfeh', and was able to get in with no problem.
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Bean Sidhe
Shipmate
# 11823
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Cannot get past login
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Melon
Ship's desserter
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I've just killed the server (why do I think of South Park whenever I type that?) When it comes back up in ten minutes or so, it should be a lot less fussy about characters in usernames - particularly first characters, which previously had to be a letter.
It would be helpful if anyone still experiencing 'username of wrong type' connection problems could PM me a list of any wacky characters in their username.
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French Whine
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Curiosity killed ...
Ship's Mug
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Melon, did you see that we've had a couple of people dropped overboard and had to reboot to get back in? They didn't look as if they left until just before they arrived again (as in post saying they had left in the chatroom). The only thing that we could think of that might have been happening was that they were distracted (eating) and not posting for a bit.
[eta - y on the end of they]
[ 08. April 2008, 07:30: Message edited by: Curiosity killed ... ]
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Melon
Ship's desserter
# 4038
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I'm not sure what rebooting would do, but it sounds a lot to me like their Internet connections stop reading data from the server after a while. One partial solution would be to put an inactivity timeout on the café, as we do in St Pixels.
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French Whine
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Legodude_uk
Protector of Zebras
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Melon
Just thinking outside the box, would it be possible to set up something that detects the log in attempts and if it finds a match with someone that is already in there it kicks them both out...
That way if we were stuck in the limbo state of being signed in but not there (a bit like lights on but nobody home!) then it would re-set that connection as well??
Just a thought, I guess it could be abused if you knew someone elses log ins and maliciously wanted to get them out of the cafe but that's unlikely...
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Melon
Ship's desserter
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I think that's what it does already. Or maybe I got distracted before writing that bit...
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French Whine
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Legodude_uk
Protector of Zebras
# 5671
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Doesn't seem to otherwise when we attempt to log back in when we fall off it should throw us out...unless there's something else funny going on...
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If a man is standing in a forest speaking but there are no women around to hear him...is he still wrong?
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Gwaelod
Shipmate
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quote:
Originally posted by Melon:
I think that's what it does already. Or maybe I got distracted before writing that bit...
No it doesn't do that yet.
The server is really good at holding onto connections (in a good way). I was connected using my MacBook one evening. I closed the lid and went to bed (the computer then goes to 'sleep' too!). The following day I reopened the lid of the Mac and I was still connected and could chat away.
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Golden Key
Shipmate
# 1468
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I tried the new cafe again today. A few things:
--I still get a headache, partly because the text box at the bottom is so small and only shows a small font. Is there a way to set that to enlarge when I choose a larger font for the rest of the chat?
--Could the decaf version be made *more* decaf? E.g., get rid of the graphics, especially the avatars? That would make a possibly safer version for those of us who are getting headaches (I'm not the only one), for those accessing via cell phones, and those who just don't want distractions.
--I'm another one bothered by the long time it takes to load the cafe.
--Not a problem; just curiosity: is there a reason the cafe is hooked up to St. Pixel's instead of the Ship?
Thanks!
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jlg
What is this place?
Why am I here?
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quote:
Originally posted by Gwaelod:
....The following day I reopened the lid of the Mac and I was still connected and could chat away.
I did that on my desktop PC. Popped into the Cafe, said hi to someone, went off to take care of some little chore or something, got distracted, eventually went to bed. The next morning, there was the Cafe (with me in it) just patiently waiting.
(And if anyone from the western US time zones or the antipodes tried to talk to me, my apologies for inadvertently leaving that cardboard cut-out standing there all those hours.)
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Bean Sidhe
Shipmate
# 11823
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24 hours now I've not been able to get into the cafe, I get the login page, enter id and password, and it just loops. Any suggestions?
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Paul.
Shipmate
# 37
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Cafe's acting weird since JoyfulNoise logged in. Can't see any name for her and the part with the avatars doesn't show at all.
She's got an ampersand in her display name - praps that's the problem?
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JoyfulNoise & Parrot OKief
Ship's pirate
# 2049
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cough cough, splutter. I'm a BLOKE! Her 'indeed'
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Paul.
Shipmate
# 37
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Ooops sorry.
But FYI for the PTBs cafe went back to normal once HE'd left. Definitely something going on there.
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Horatio Harumph
Shipmate
# 10855
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paulm and graham
did you guys just get booted out?
i did, and now i cant get back in for an error message
HH
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Chelley
Ship's Old Boot
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Just popped into the cafe but couldn't say hello as I had no text box! (And yes I did scroll right down in case it was hiding!). ![[Confused]](confused.gif)
[ 09. April 2008, 22:49: Message edited by: Chelley ]
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"What's good about sad?"
"It's happy for deep people!"
Sally Sparrow to Kathy - Doctor Who
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Geneviève
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Worked fine for me just now.
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Chelley
Ship's Old Boot
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Yes, I think it was my computer/settings. I posted because I didn't want to seem rude to the people in the cafe - appearing and disappearing a couple of times without saying anything!
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"I love old things, they make me feel sad."
"What's good about sad?"
"It's happy for deep people!"
Sally Sparrow to Kathy - Doctor Who
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Joan Rasch
Shipmate
# 49
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Hmm... just got thrown overboard when my dial-up connection dropped (even tho' I was posting, it apparently registered as 'idle' time). But now I can't log in again with my regular user name - I suspect I'm a phantom.. (Sorry, Sir K & U..)
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Anselm
Shipmate
# 4499
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I have found that the last three times I have been in the cafe, my posting become erratic and disjointed. I begin to get a headache and a sore ribcage.
So, can you do something to stop my kids bugging me by asking me questions and trying to get my attention when I'm on the computer?
I mean...you did such a bang up job on the cafe I thought you might be able to do something else for me...
...just asking.
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...seize the day to play dominoes?
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Alex Cockell
Ship’s penguin
# 7487
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OK - this is slightly tangential, but I'll soon be replacing hardware...
Intention is to get a THinkpad R61 (widescreen) preinstalled with Ubuntu Linux - waiting till the end of the month, as Ubuntu 8.10 will then be in production as opposed to beta.
My question - those here who are running Ubuntu - is the required version of Java (1.6?) on their production repositories, or installed as part of the base build when installing 8.1 (or 7.10)?
Also - I'm thinking of getting an ASUS EEE Linux-based unit when the EEE 900 (1Gb memory, 20Gb SSD, 1024 horizontal display, slightly larger keys) comes out. Useful as a more mobile machine when out and about; same price point as an iPod classic but MUCH more usable and customisable - will be applying some mods.. but anyone used one of those against the cafe?
Would be good to hear from Linux users.
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