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Tree Bee
Ship's tiller girl
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Originally posted by Yorick:
Page 18, there it is. Thanks, Moo. No trace of it through Search.
Thanks - I've been looking for that thread too.
Convinced myself I'd imagined it.
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passer
Indigo
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I was browsing in Oblivion and happened upon a shipmate who changed member number, presumably in the sale/auction which took place in days of yore.
A "last 50 posts" enquiry on the old number shows posts up until 2005, and on the new number shows posts to today.
What I want to know, for no reason other than curiosity, is: Does the "number of posts" count get reset to zero when the new member number is issued, causing the shipmate to return to Apprentice status?
And does the current "number of posts" number equate to an aggregation of both existences, or just the current existence?
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Alan Cresswell
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If I recall correctly, when we auctioned the member numbers those who got a new number had their post count carried over - but only the number of posts, there was no direct link to their earlier posts (ie: the 50 most recent posts would have been initially an empty list).
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AdamPater
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Whatever happened to riverfalls? Eaten by alligator?
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Tubbs
Miss Congeniality
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Originally posted by AdamPater:
Whatever happened to riverfalls? Eaten by alligator?
Eaten by something. May have been a 'gator, may have been something else.
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A.Pilgrim
Shipmate
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One of the issues with regard to Martin PC Not's suspension was the requirement to write posts in English, and if not, to provide a translation. Is there anywhere in the Ship's guidance notes that explicitly states this?
I have read through the 10Cs, the FAQs* and the Board Guidelines and not found it in any of those. The only comment relating to this subject that I've found so far is for Kerygmania where Guideline7 reads:
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Feel free to use the original languages in which the Bible was written if you think it will help your argument. But please be aware that it may not! If you do use Greek or Hebrew (or even Aramaic), have pity on those of us who don't read these languages and provide a translation for us.
Here the requirement for a translation is asked more as a favour than as a hard-line requirement. Could I suggest that the language requirement for posts be stated explicitly somewhere? (Unless I've been unobservant and missed it.)
And does it apply to sig lines? I know of at least two shipmates with non-English text sig lines (one of them is in Arabic script as well). Perhaps it would prevent a situation in the future where a dispute arose about an allegation of abuse in a non-English language sig if the requirement for the use of English applied to sigs as well.
Sorry if this produces extra work for the Ship's admins or webmates, but would be a useful clarification. Thanks, Angus ![[Smile]](smile.gif)
*That's the FAQs linked from the second heading line, not the FAQs linked from the lower line which has the options: My profile login | Register | Directory | Search | FAQs | Board home (Is it confusing to have two different FAQs pages?)
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Uncle Pete
Loyaute me lie
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Signatures are your's to play with as you will.
Otherwise this is an English language board, as has been stated again and again and again** in the Styx, here and there*
**ad nauseum
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Sioni Sais
Shipmate
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Originally posted by PeteC:
Signatures are your's to play with as you will.
Otherwise this is an English language board, as has been stated again and again and again** in the Styx, here and there*
**ad nauseum
*seriatim
ad nauseam ![[Biased]](wink.gif)
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mdijon
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You may be inviting an ad defenestratam.
[ 08. October 2012, 13:23: Message edited by: mdijon ]
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mdijon nojidm uoɿıqɯ ɯqıɿou
ɯqıɿou uoɿıqɯ nojidm mdijon
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A.Pilgrim
Shipmate
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quote:
Originally posted by PeteC:
... Otherwise this is an English language board, as has been stated again and again and again** in the Styx, here and there*
**ad nauseum
*seriatim
I'm sorry if I touched a raw nerve - I was genuinely trying to make a helpful suggestion. I wouldn't have thought of looking through threads in The Styx for guidance on acceptable posting, but rather in the 10Cs, guidelines or FAQs, and I guess that newcomers would look in those places as well. However, I shall now back off discreetly with a placatory smile...
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Famous Dutch pirate
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mdijon: You may be inviting an ad defenestratam.
I just hope he hasn't been predefenestrated yet.
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Shipmate
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quote:
Originally posted by A.Pilgrim:
One of the issues with regard to Martin PC Not's suspension was the requirement to write posts in English, and if not, to provide a translation. Is there anywhere in the Ship's guidance notes that explicitly states this?
The reason for this requirement is that the Ship is an English language discussion board. It is difficult to maintain a proper discussion when someone uses a language that is not readily understood by many of the other shipmates. That is why a translation is required when someone uses a language other than English in a post.
Sig lines are not part of the discussion, so are not subject to this requirement.
But I'm afraid I can't help you find where it is explained otherwise.
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Kelly Alves
Bunny with an axe
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quote:
Originally posted by mdijon:
You may be inviting an ad defenestratam.
I feel so lame. I thought that word meant something completely different all this time.
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Jesus loves me, this I know” of they don’t believe “Kelly loves me, this I know.”
Kelly Alves, somewhere around 2003.
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lilBuddha
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I, erm, caution everyone to refrain from asking what the misconception was...
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Hallellou, hallellou
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Kelly Alves
Bunny with an axe
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I thought it was the same sort of thing as "evisceration."
Which-- I had some fool following me around at the time aiming really lurid, graphic, Wolf Creek quality descriptions of bunny-skinning at me at the time I first saw the word-- to be frank, in RooK's title-- and the misunderstood meaning kind of creeped me out. Sorry, RooK. ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif)
I supposed I could have just looked it up...
[ 10. October 2012, 23:07: Message edited by: Kelly Alves ]
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Jesus loves me, this I know” of they don’t believe “Kelly loves me, this I know.”
Kelly Alves, somewhere around 2003.
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RooK
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[Jayne Cobb voice] It's my very favourite word. [/Jayne Cobb voice]
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Kelly Alves
Bunny with an axe
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.. and under my new enlightenment, I take back that comment I made long ago about it "not fitting you." It SO TOTALLY fits you.
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I cannot expect people to believe “
Jesus loves me, this I know” of they don’t believe “Kelly loves me, this I know.”
Kelly Alves, somewhere around 2003.
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no prophet's flag is set so...
Proceed to see sea
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quote:
Originally posted by Carex:
The reason for this requirement is that the Ship is an English language discussion board. It is difficult to maintain a proper discussion when someone uses a language that is not readily understood by many of the other shipmates. That is why a translation is required when someone uses a language other than English in a post.
Though the definition of English is at the whim of hosts who can make it totally incomprehensible, just for fun by removing vowels as we have recently seen in Hell. Thus, the rule is actually, in practice, that you should post in English, but if the hosts do something to make it incomprehensible, you'd better bloody well be damn careful, because they may do whatever. To be somewhat kinder, realize that they are human, and make errors.
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The Rogue
Shipmate
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My bookmark to the Ship takes me to the front page which shows the number of people on the discussion boards which is currently 73. On a Sunday morning it is in the forties. Does anyone know what the highest and lowest numbers here are? Just being curious.
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passer
Indigo
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Quote:
quote:
Our visitor record is 290, set on 16 November, 2008 00:39 .
As for the lowest number, it depends who's frigging around with the admin panel, which has been known to set that number to zero.
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orfeo
Ship's Musical Counterpoint
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quote:
Originally posted by passer:
As for the lowest number, it depends who's frigging around with the admin panel, which has been known to set that number to zero.
Why invoke human agency when a computer could fuck that up all by itself?
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passer
Indigo
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Because I don't recall the boards going down other than when a human agent was doing something, be it a scheduled maintenance activity such as rebuilding directories or unscheduled frigging around. The last two I recall have included one of each. Your Memory May Vary.
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The Rogue
Shipmate
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Thank you
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If everyone starts thinking outside the box does outside the box come back inside?
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Kelly Alves
Bunny with an axe
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quote:
Originally posted by passer:
Because I don't recall the boards going down other than when a human agent was doing something, be it a scheduled maintenance activity such as rebuilding directories or unscheduled frigging around.
I love that you think any of our frigging around is scheduled.
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I cannot expect people to believe “
Jesus loves me, this I know” of they don’t believe “Kelly loves me, this I know.”
Kelly Alves, somewhere around 2003.
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RooK
1 of 6
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quote:
Originally posted by passer:
I don't recall the boards going down other than when a human agent was doing something
The boards have gone down briefly due to server issues. When the server is down, it doesn't send notifications that it's down to the whole internet. So you might have missed it.
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lilBuddha
Shipmate
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Aha! You are caught, Rook. That is just the sort of thing one would say to camouflage one's nefarious intents.
Fight the power, passer, fight the power!
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Hallellou, hallellou
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Jonah the Whale
Ship's pet cetacean
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At the top of each page of a thread is the phrase Source: (consider it). What does this mean?
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Sioni Sais
Shipmate
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quote:
Originally posted by Jonah the Whale:
At the top of each page of a thread is the phrase Source: (consider it). What does this mean?
I don't know about you but I instinctly skip posts from a small section of contributors*. It can save a lot of aggravation.
*except in Hell, that is.
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Marvin the Martian
Interplanetary
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quote:
Originally posted by Jonah the Whale:
At the top of each page of a thread is the phrase Source: (consider it). What does this mean?
It used to say "posted by", or something similar. It got changed during a H&A Day years ago.
As for what it means: it's a simple reminder to consider the source of what you're reading.
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Hail Gallaxhar
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Jonah the Whale
Ship's pet cetacean
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Thanks, that makes sense. I had assumed it related to the title of the thread because it was the title bar. Hadn't made the connection that it was at the top of the post-contributor column.
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Marvin the Martian
Interplanetary
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quote:
Originally posted by Evensong:
Just curious as to whether Beeswax Altar has been banned?
No, he hasn't.
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Hail Gallaxhar
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SusanDoris
Incurable Optimist
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I wonder, is there a way of looking at a member's list of posts?
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Sioni Sais
Shipmate
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quote:
Originally posted by SusanDoris:
I wonder, is there a way of looking at a member's list of posts?
Yes, there is.
1. Find the member. Do this either through the Directory, using member search or click on them in a thread.
2. That gives you a screen showing "Profile for <membersname>". On that, above the personal details, is "View recent posts". Click on that and you get the last fifty posts (unless they are very old posts indeed).
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SusanDoris
Incurable Optimist
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Siomi Sais
Thank you.
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I know that you believe that you understood what you think I said, but I am not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant.
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comet
Snowball in Hell
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You can also just click on their post count from within a thread.
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Evil Dragon Lady, Breaker of Men's Constitutions
"It's hard to be religious when certain people are never incinerated by bolts of lightning.” -Calvin
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Sioni Sais
Shipmate
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quote:
Originally posted by comet:
You can also just click on their post count from within a thread.
Hey! That's a new one on me. Thanks.
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"He isn't Doctor Who, he's The Doctor"
(Paul Sinha, BBC)
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comet
Snowball in Hell
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Found it by accident a few years ago. Dang phone thumbs.
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Evil Dragon Lady, Breaker of Men's Constitutions
"It's hard to be religious when certain people are never incinerated by bolts of lightning.” -Calvin
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Zappa
Ship's Wake
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quote:
Originally posted by no prophet:
if the hosts do something to make it incomprehensible, you'd better bloody well be damn careful, because they may do whatever.
I think you have the wrong beasts. Hosts are mere indentured serfs, struggling under the yoke of oppression. It is the admins who bear unrestricted, unfettered powers, walking with the gods and capriciously delivering random acts of wanton hatred.
Bite them, hippie peace-freaks.
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and mayhap this too: http://broken-moments.blogspot.co.nz/
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monkeylizard
Ship's scurvy
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To no prophet's specific point, can't Hosts edit anyone's posts within the board in which they host?
[ 17. June 2013, 20:21: Message edited by: monkeylizard ]
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Alan Cresswell
Mad Scientist 先生
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Yes, hosts can edit any post on the board(s) they host. Admins can edit any post, anywhere.
Posts are edited for one of two reasons, most of the time:
- A real foul up with coding that makes the post largely unreadable - getting nested quotes all mixed up so you don't know who's quoted and what's the reply, using CODE rather than QUOTE and screwing the page formatting, getting a link wrong so it doesn't work properly, multiple copies of the same post.
That is, they edit posts to make it easier for everyone to join in the discussion/game/rant/whatever.
- To remove something that might get the Ship into legal hot water - large pieces of potentially copyright text, links to sites of dubious legality and taste, advertising and spam, remarks that may be incitement to illegal activities etc. And, note, we don't ask our hosts to be lawyers, nor to spend their time checking whether the particular version of a hymn you've quoted is still covered by copyright somewhere in the world, and so will always act in a cautious manner.
That is, they edit posts to protect the Ship.
That's basically it. Occasionally on a H&A Day the power to edit is used extensively. Hell hosts might occasionally think up some imaginative way to make a point. But, those are the exceptions.
[and, because I can add one blank line to make it look more pretty]
[ 17. June 2013, 20:57: Message edited by: Alan Cresswell ]
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Pomona
Shipmate
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Emily's recent posting made me want to ask - is it possible for me to get a username change please? I made the same mistake she did in putting my full name as my username. Would be happy to make a donation for it!
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Spike
Mostly Harmless
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We don' t usually allow name changes, but from time to time we hold a name change amnesty. When this happens it's announced here in The Styx and lasts for about 3 days. The last one was less than a year ago, so it'll be a while before the next one. Sorry.
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Alan Cresswell
Mad Scientist 先生
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Your screenname, the one everyone sees, can be changed. Your login name can not.
We disabled the ability of shipmates to change their name whenever they want several years ago. It just got too confusing for everyone when some people changed their displayed name every other week. We have periodic "name change amnesties" when we reactivate the ability for people to change their name for a short period. We had such an amnesty relatively recently, and don't have immediate plans for another ... but watch the Styx for an announcement when we do.
[x-post with Spike]
[ 28. June 2013, 07:11: Message edited by: Alan Cresswell ]
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Tubbs
Miss Congeniality
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quote:
Originally posted by Jade Constable:
Emily's recent posting made me want to ask - is it possible for me to get a username change please? I made the same mistake she did in putting my full name as my username. Would be happy to make a donation for it!
Just to add to Spike and Alan's comments ... The reason we don't sell name changes is that it can't be done in the Control Panel. One of the Admins would have to log in as you to make the change. And we'd really rather not do that unless something very serious had happened.
Tubbs
[ 28. June 2013, 11:44: Message edited by: Tubbs ]
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LeRoc
Famous Dutch pirate
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I've heard about Hurricane Joanne of course, but I wasn't there when it happened. Sometimes I have the idea that if Joanne happened now, the situation would be dealt with easily. Maybe there have already been people on board who tried to be more disruptive than Joanne was, but since then it has been easier to deal with them. Could this be true?
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I know why God made the rhinoceros, it's because He couldn't see the rhinoceros, so He made the rhinoceros to be able to see it. (Clarice Lispector)
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