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Thread: Should we accept that all scripture is to be accepted as truth?
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Alan Cresswell
Mad Scientist 先生
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That was one more word than his previous three posts combined. At this rate he might even reach the verbosity of a Mousethief one-liner! We might even learn what "yes" means in the context of the discussion on this thread.
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mousethief
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# 953
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I'm seldom that terse for multiple posts in a row, and my one-worders are pretty rare. Lay off the personal attacks.
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sharkshooter
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It took him 2.5 years to come up with "Yes"?
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Alan Cresswell
Mad Scientist 先生
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quote: Originally posted by mousethief: Lay off the personal attacks.
You are, of course, correct. I was out of line mentioning your name at all, and I apologise.
I've also been a bit short with Stoker. And, I apologise for that as well. This is a thread I have contributed to over the years (and other threads on similar subjects) and I feel it's a subject worthy of serious discussion. Really, I'd just like to know what Stoker thinks about the subject, and the discussion we've already had here, and engage in further discussion with someone who may have different opinions to my own.
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mousethief
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quote: Originally posted by sharkshooter: It took him 2.5 years to come up with "Yes"?
Some fairy tales have the damsel being nearly that coy.
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Alogon
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quote: Originally posted by Jim Powell: I do not see that we have authority to just pick out those sections that we like,and reject the parts that we may dislike. What think Ye?
What think ye of the Words of Institution? Metaphor or literally true?
The proud literalists make an exception there quite consistently, in my experience.
The New Testament verses you quote were not scripture at the time they were written, nor was anything else in the New Testament. They could apply only to the "Old Testament". Citing them to authenticate themselves would be a case of what Douglas Hofstadter calls "strange loops:" like the disorientation that would result if you tried to buy at the checkout counter one of those rubber sticks that divide one customer's groceries from another's; or expected the garbage collectors to dispose of your trash can.
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mousethief
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quote: Originally posted by Alogon: I do not see that we have authority to just pick out those sections that we like,and reject the parts that we may dislike. What think Ye?
Then do you accept the Apocrypha as scripture, as the ancient church did? Or do you reject "the parts you dislike?"
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Johnny S
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quote: Originally posted by mousethief: Then do you accept the Apocrypha as scripture, as the ancient church did? Or do you reject "the parts you dislike?"
We've been here before MT - last time round you explained to me that Protestants, RCs and Orthodox all have different categories for scripture.
If, for example, one group views the Apocrypha as less important than the Gospels then it really comes down to semantics whether you call the Apocrypha scripture or not.
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mousethief
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I wasn't asking you, was I?
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Johnny S
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Apologies - I thought this was a bulletin board.
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Alogon
Cabin boy emeritus
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quote: Originally posted by mousethief: I wasn't asking you, was I?
Since you mis-attributed someone else's words to me, it's impossible to know whom you were asking.
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Louise
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It's getting a bit fractious down here. Can people get back on topic? Or if personal bickering is desired, you all know here the Hell board is. Ta!
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