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Source: (consider it) Thread: Crappy Choruses & Horrible Hymns redux
Newman's Own
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quote:
Originally posted by Huntress:
Verse 1:
Jesus said to his disciples
Wash those weary toes!
Do it in a cheerful fashion,
never hold your nose!'

Chorus:
The world is full of smelly feet
Weary from the dusty street
The world is full of smelly feet
We'll was them for each other.

A gem from Michael Forster, printed in 'The Catholic Supplement to "Hymns, Songs and Chants"'.

Please tell me that this revolting, tasteless text is a spoof! I have heard many a horrid hymn in my day, but this is the only one I recall which nearly made me vomit.

Incidentally - my comments on 'All that I Am' hold. The offertory at Holy Communion has nothing to do with our thanking God for our personal gifts.

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[Killing me]

It must be a spoof.

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quote:
Originally posted by Newman's Own:
Incidentally - my comments on 'All that I Am' hold. The offertory at Holy Communion has nothing to do with our thanking God for our personal gifts.

Whilst this is correct, I still find nothing wrong with the words of the hymn itself. Though singing it during the offertory as we did this weekend does add to the general confusion of that time, as technically bringing big plates of money up to the alter has nothing to do with the preparation for Holy Communion either. If you're in with the "seeing as we're offering up our cash, we might as well offer up our personal gifts" camp then it's fine. [Smile]

However, beating "Daily, Daily sing to Mary", I've found a new candidate for my least favorite piece of music heard at a service.

At an Evangelical Youth Service, I heard the following. Having looked it up now, it appears to be a song by Donna Summer. I'm not sure if all the lyrics were sung as in the original, as I started fuming after the chorus. However, this is the section I definately remember them singing:

"We know a place
where Gods's people can run free
a new kind of love
and we call it agape

Don't take too long to find
true love transcends all time
that non-reacting, everlasting love

Give me your unconditional love
the kind of love I deserve
the kind I want to return"

[Mad]

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quote:
Originally posted by Newman's Own:
quote:
Originally posted by Huntress:
Verse 1:
Jesus said to his disciples
Wash those weary toes!
Do it in a cheerful fashion,
never hold your nose!
...'

Please tell me that this revolting, tasteless text is a spoof!
It does appear to be a bona fide hymn, or at least several editors believe so. According to Hymn Quest (TM) it appears in three published collections, including the Complete Anglican Hymns Old and New (but not the Catholic HO&N, oddly enough).

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Plenty of people, including me, have said this before, and it will get said again and again and again.

But it happened in church yesterday, so I'm flagging it up right now.

Just wtf is it with songs that basically say: "I want to have sex with Jesus"?

[Confused] [Projectile] [Disappointed]

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Examples please.

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Innuendo?

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quote:
Originally posted by Sarkycow:
Plenty of people, including me, have said this before, and it will get said again and again and again.

But it happened in church yesterday, so I'm flagging it up right now.

Just wtf is it with songs that basically say: "I want to have sex with Jesus"?

[Confused] [Projectile] [Disappointed]

shudder

One interpetation of The Song of Songs which used to be common was that Christ was the Bridegroom and the believer (of either sex) was the Bride - and we all know what brides and bridegrooms do, don't we?


Sometimes very explicitly sexual imagery was common in earlier centuries and I imagine it still goes on today.

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Originally posted by Newman's Own:
quote:
quote:
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Originally posted by Huntress:
Verse 1:
Jesus said to his disciples
Wash those weary toes!
Do it in a cheerful fashion,
never hold your nose!'

Chorus:
The world is full of smelly feet
Weary from the dusty street
The world is full of smelly feet
We'll was them for each other.

A gem from Michael Forster, printed in 'The Catholic Supplement to "Hymns, Songs and Chants"'.
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Please tell me that this revolting, tasteless text is a spoof! I have heard many a horrid hymn in my day, but this is the only one I recall which nearly made me vomit.

I assure you it is no spoof [Frown] [Ultra confused] but it is in the children's section of the hymnal, not that that's an excuse. The final verse is devoted to Jesus himself and ends with the exhortation 'Smart or scruffy, we'll still love him / wash his smelly feet!'

Another gem by the same author (and printed in the same book):

'The voice from the bush said
"Moses, look snappy,
Have I got a job for you!
I've looked around
and I'm not very happy
Here is what you have to do".'

Chorus: 'Lead my people to freedom (x3)
Got to go to the promised land.'

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[Roll Eyes] Having just read Huntress's post...

If this is what liturgical music has come to (and I thought the 60s were bad..), I am very glad that I have access to churches that did not go with such trends... otherwise, I'd be a Buddhist by now...

Incidentally (and this is not a new hymn - I cannot remember where I heard it once), I remember shuddering at "There is a Fountain filled with Blood."

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Earlier this year, I dragged myself to a local deanery meeting (never again!!), which featured ways to musically "add" to worship.

Riiiiiiiiiight. [brick wall] [Disappointed]

God help us if this is all we have to look forward to.

quote:
Originally posted by Newman's Own:
[Roll Eyes] Having just read Huntress's post...

If this is what liturgical music has come to (and I thought the 60s were bad..), I am very glad that I have access to churches that did not go with such trends... otherwise, I'd be a Buddhist by now...

Incidentally (and this is not a new hymn - I cannot remember where I heard it once), I remember shuddering at "There is a Fountain filled with Blood."


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And who remembers this piece of nonsense from my Post-Vatican II RC childhood??? [Big Grin]


"Rain, Lord, O RAIN , Lord! Rain, Master Jesus, Rain! Rain Your Spirit in my heart, Rain, Master Jesus Rain!"

"I looked at my hands and they looked like new, Rain, Master Jesus Rain, I think I'll give them back to You! Rain, Master Jesus Rain!!!"

More nonsense. etc etc

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quote:
By your side, I would lay
In your arms, I would lay
Jesus lover of my soul
Nothing from you I withold.

We were then asked to close our eyes and "really just imagine this: lying with Jesus, lying in his arms"

[Eek!] [Projectile]

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"Thou dids't leave thy throne" has the (to my disgraceful mind) rather dodgy line

quote:
thy couch was the sod
so it isn't only modern songs that that can raise sniggers. [Embarrassed]

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How about 'My Jesus, my lifeline'?

I need you more than I've ever known
There's no-one quite like you
I'm crying out for your loving
Oh Jesus, oh Jesus
I've never known a love like this before

Or 'This is the air I breathe'

And I, I'm desperate for you

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How about "He brought me to his banqueting table" which has one verse that goes "I am my beloved's and he is mine"...
I actually quite like that one but I do get where everyone's coming from with this whole 'Jesus as lover' thing. I don't mind the songs per se but I do mind the way they make me feel that there's something wrong with my relationship with God just because I'm not sure I can sing the words truthfully. Maybe this is just my neuroticism speaking but I've heard similar complaints from other people. Hmmmmmm [Disappointed]

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I'm very familiar with many mystic writings (and naturally the scriptures) which use erotic imagery, but what I find so hilarious about the "I want to have sex with Jesus" imagery today is that those using it in their compositions seem not to see the erotic implications at all.

Years ago, I once worked with three friars on a summer programme for little children. One of the friars taught the little ones (3-4 years old) to sing "I am my beloved's and he is mine..." song, complete with gestures (totally innocent, of course.) Neither he nor they realised that the essence of the text was about having sex in a wine cellar.

One nun I knew (...these were odd times...) wanted to have "Only You" (remember? 'you're my dream come true, my one and only you') at a profession ceremony, though the idea fortunately was vetoed. Another asked for, and was given permission to use, "I Know I'll Never Find Another You," with the modification of "if I should lose your love, Lord" instead of 'dear.'

I, of course, was joking when I said I'd use the obscure "I'll Build a Stairway to Heaven" (Neil Sedaka). Then again, had I known what was ahead, "Every day, in every way, you're going to drive me out of my mind" might have seemed appropriate.

[Snigger]
I'll build a stairway to heaven,
I'll climb to the highest star,
I'll build a stairway to heaven,
For heaven is where You are!

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What is it about the footwashing? One Maundy Thursday my fellow choir members and I were subjected to a piece that went something like this:

Jesus took a towel and he girded himself, and he washed my feet, yes, he washed my feet.

Jesus took a basin and he knelt himself down and he washed, yes, he washed my feet.

This might not have been so bad had it not been interspersed with bits of spoken "prose-poetry" such as the following:

"You kneel before me and I ask, 'Lord, do you wash my feet? Lord, do you wash my feet?'

"You kneel before me and I say, 'Lord, you'll never wash my feet."

Jesus took a towel, etc.

The spoken verses were doled out one per choir member, with the whole group taking the chorus. The woman who got the previously mentioned gem had a particularly strong New York accent, so that it came out more like, "Lo-awd, do you worsh my feett? Lo-awd, do you worsh my feett?" Thank the Lord, I've never heard the thing since.

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Newman's Own wrote:

quote:
I'm very familiar with many mystic writings (and naturally the scriptures) which use erotic imagery, but what I find so hilarious about the "I want to have sex with Jesus" imagery today is that those using it in their compositions seem not to see the erotic implications at all.

Totally hillarious!! It's as if these people both writers and those who promote this type of stuff have undergone an irony bypass. Quite a number of times, I've accidently turned up at 'praise' service - to find myself grinning my head off in the songs, not because I am enraputured but because I'm ******* my sides.
J

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quote:
Originally posted by dorothea:
Totally hillarious!! It's as if these people both writers and those who promote this type of stuff have undergone an irony bypass. Quite a number of times, I've accidently turned up at 'praise' service - to find myself grinning my head off in the songs, not because I am enraputured but because I'm ******* my sides.
J


Bible translators too. From the NIV -

At that time the kingdom of heaven will be like ten virgins who took their lamps and went out to meet the bridegroom. 2Five of them were foolish and five were wise. 3The foolish ones took their lamps but did not take any oil with them. 4The wise, however, took oil in jars along with their lamps. 5The bridegroom was a long time in coming, and they all became drowsy and fell asleep. Matt 25:1-5

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Indeed. [Big Grin]

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As an aside, Anna certainly has a point! Though I cannot recall all of them offhand, there did seem to be a boring, low quality bunch of songs (and - not that it deserves the term - religious meditations, writings or poetry) which seemed to display a foot washing fetish.

Then again, from some of what I read (either in Purgatory or MW) in the past, some churches seem to be obsessed with this across the board. There were descriptions of entire congregations being invited to come forth and have their feet washed.

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quote:
Originally posted by Newman's Own:
One of the friars taught the little ones (3-4 years old) to sing "I am my beloved's and he is mine..." song, complete with gestures (totally innocent, of course.)

Of such things do defence lawyers make fortunes in our wiser and sadder days...

But the words are from the Song of Songs, whose erotic poetry is given hilariously laconic annotations in our K. James Bible (as Nicolson notes in his new book) by its lead translator, a Cambridge puritan. Thus:

A bundle of myrrhe is my welbeloued vnto me. He shall lie all night betwixt my breasts. Behold, thou art faire, my loue...
The Church and Christ congratulate each other.

Thy two breasts are like two yong Roes...which feed among the lillies.
Christ setteth forth the graces of the Church.

Thy lips, O my spouse! drop as the hony combe: hony and milke are vnder thy tongue, and the smell of thy garments is like the smell of Lebanon.
Christ sheweth his loue to the Church.

&c&c&c

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I never could abide

It's ME, it's ME, it's ME, oh Lord,
Standing in the need of prayer,
It's ME, it's ME, it's ME, oh Lord,
Standing in the need of prayer.

Not my brother, not my sister, but it's ME, oh Lord,
Standing in the need of prayer,
Not my brother, not my sister, but it's ME, oh Lord,
Standing in the need of prayer!


This is what passes for intercessions these days?? [Mad]

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One blessing for which I'll offer thanks at Evening Prayer is that I was not subjected to the intercessory prayer Anna mentioned... horrid.

I doubt anyone could get the impact of the forthcoming horror, but it was a dumb tune sung in a round.

Love, love, love, love,
Christians this
Is your call
Love your neighbour as yourself
For God loves all.

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Don't get me started on rounds sung in church, Newman's Own! That is truly a subject deserving a thread of its very own. There are a couple of dreadful examples in the ECUSA hymnal, one of them being:

God is working His purpose out as year succeeds to year,
God is working his purpose out, and the time is drawing near;
Nearer and nearer draws the time, the time that shall surely be,
When the earth shall be filled with the glory of God as the waters cover the sea.


The words aren't so bad, but the tune is a real mess, and no one, but NO one, can sing it correctly as a round:

God is working His GOD IS WORKING HIS PURPOSE OUT... from which point everything degenerates.

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quote:
Originally posted by Anna B:
I never could abide

It's ME, it's ME, it's ME, oh Lord,
Standing in the need of prayer,
It's ME, it's ME, it's ME, oh Lord,
Standing in the need of prayer.

<snip>
This is what passes for intercessions these days?? [Mad]

It's certainly not these days!

I remember singing this as a child - and that's at least over 45 years ago!

And I didn't like it then either!

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quote:
Originally posted by Anna B:
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God is working His purpose out .

The words aren't so bad, but the tune is a real mess, and no one, but NO one, can sing it correctly as a round:

I take it you're not singing it to the EH tune Benson (so so la do1.do1 te:-.la so etc)? If you are, I can see there might be a problem. I agree it doesn't make much sense to sing anything with a reasonably complex and non-repetitive text as a round. However, I confess to having a soft spot for Seek ye first, at least in certain moods. (If you don't know it, it's a two-part round where each part spends half its time singing Alleluia).

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I'll vouch for that one, Robin! It does fit in well on Easter morning (though I always have to stifle a temptation to sway back and forth while singing it).

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I apologize for double-posting. Has anyone else had to sit through the questionable practice of rehearsing liturgical music with the congregation right before the service? This has always struck me as tiresome, especially since it inevitably interferes with one's private devotions. I was reminded of this because the use of rounds and canons seems to present an overwhelming temptation to "rehearse."

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quote:
Originally posted by Anna B:
I apologize for double-posting. Has anyone else had to sit through the questionable practice of rehearsing liturgical music with the congregation right before the service?

I've seen it done a few times. It only made me feel cross when the song was rubbish!

After all, if you want to sit it out you can.

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quote:
Originally posted by Punkijellybean:


Anyone know what the line "I tried the broken cisterns, Lord, but oh, the waters failed", is about? I kid you not. The hymn starts "O Christ in thee my soul have found....the peace, the joy", etc, etc. A good start, but downhill thereon after.

Seems like we now have cyclist hymns, and plumbers'anthems. Any other vocational specials??

Hi, could anyone possibly locate a source for this hymn or Pm me with it?

Apparently there is going to be a blessing of some toilets (???)and a certain Eminent Ecclesiastical person is looking for material...

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quote:
Originally posted by welsh dragon:
quote:
Originally posted by Punkijellybean:


Anyone know what the line "I tried the broken cisterns, Lord, but oh, the waters failed", is about?

Hi, could anyone possibly locate a source for this hymn or Pm me with it?

Have PM'ed the complete hymn, from Sacred Songs and Solos, as requested. The verse with the cisterns goes

I tried the broken cisterns, Lord,
But ah! the waters failed!
Even as I stooped to drink they fled
And mocked me as I wailed.

c.f. Jeremiah 2:13
For my people have committed two evils; they have forsaken me the fountain of living waters, and hewed them out cisterns, broken cisterns, that can hold no water.

And with that I think I'm finally about to become a shipmate!

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thank you sweetie and congratulations!

Anyone with any other ideas for hymns suitable for blessing toilets, feel free...

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Anna B
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"Before thy throne, O God, we kneel"?

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Miffy

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quote:
Originally posted by welsh dragon:
thank you sweetie and congratulations!

Anyone with any other ideas for hymns suitable for blessing toilets, feel free...

Sudden memories of childhood Sunday school....


See the pennies dropping,
Listen as they fall...

Sorry folks! [Snigger] [Hot and Hormonal]

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welsh dragon

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I think "Let my people go" has real potential here you know...
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quote:
Originally posted by welsh dragon:
thank you sweetie and congratulations!

Anyone with any other ideas for hymns suitable for blessing toilets, feel free...

A pleasure.

John Newton is also concerned with the problem of broken cisterns:

Though dark be my way,
since he is my guide,
'tis mine to obey,
'tis his to provide;
though cisterns be broken
and creatures all fail,
the word he has spoken
shall surely prevail.


And someone called Alan Luff confirms the toddler's worst fear (when the cistern is working all too well):

Primaeval waters roar
And rob us of our breath
To drown in depths of our despair
And drag us down to death

Robin

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Of course, the bible reading to go with all these sanitary anthems is Proverbs 5: 15-18 (ESV)

15 Drink water from your own cistern,
flowing water from your own well.
16 Should your springs be scattered abroad,
streams of water in the streets?
17 Let them be for yourself alone,
and not for strangers with you.
18 Let your fountain be blessed,
and rejoice in the wife of your youth,
19 a lovely deer, a graceful doe.


At which point the reading enters Song of Songs territory and needs to be censored for the young, the faint of heart, and all delicate souls of a nervous disposition.

Neil

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Faithful Sheepdog - I was going to offer you the usual hostly welcome when I noticed your membership number and realised you'd actually been around for quite a while (18 months!) without posting. Where have you been hiding?

But I'll welcome you anyway on the occasion of your first post. I guess you know by now where all the facilities are - especially things like the Ship's 10 Commandments and the guidelines to each Board.

Have fun - and don't wait so long between posts or it'll be 74 years before you get promoted to shipmate!

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dorothea
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Anna wrote that she has known the hymn (see below) sung in the round to a dreadful tune. At the place of worship I attend, this hymn is set to a lovely tune and is never sung in the round. The version I know has several verses and is actually one of my favourites. [Razz]

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God is working His purpose out as year succeeds to year,
God is working his purpose out, and the time is drawing near;
Nearer and nearer draws the time, the time that shall surely be,
When the earth shall be filled with the glory of God as the waters cover the sea.

J

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"God is working his purpose out, and the time is drawing near;
Nearer and nearer draws the time, the time that shall surely be,"

:shudder: Is this from the Christina "Snow was falling, snow on snow / snow snow snow snow snow" Rosetti school of padding out a verse?

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dorothea
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Ah, but despite the padding 'When the Waters Cover the Sea' actually scans with the tune, unlike some other worship songs I've attempted to sing along to. And of course, the idea of the waters covering the sea when the sea is made of water anyway does seem very silly (unless there is a biblical reference here which being an ignoramous I would surely miss) but...err.. I really do like singing this one. [Razz]

J

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I have no notion of who composed this dreary song (in fact, for all I know it may have been some nun of my acquaintance), but it was popular at religious professions during my younger days. I am not certain I remember the words exactly, but, in any case, the horrible melody (some phrases sounded as if they were sighs) is what 'made' the dreadful effect.

Take my hands and make them as your own,
And use them for your kingdom here on e-e-e-earth.
Consecrate them to your care
Anoint them for your service where
You may need your gospel to be sown.

Take my hands, they speak now for my heart
And by their actions make them show your love.
Open them to human need
So by your love they'll sow your seed,
That all may serve the Trinity above.

Take my hands, I give them to you, Lord,
...
Guard them on their daily course
Be their strength and guiding source
That all may know the love and hope you gave.

It ended with a swooping:
Take my hands!
Take my ha-a-a-nds,
O Lord.

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Robin
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Just to show that, while this discussion may be a dead horse, the phenomenon of Crappy Choruses is alive and well, here is a small gem from the latest edition of Stainer & Bell's Worship Live:

Simon was a rebel
Jesus loved him still
and replaced his dagger
with a daffodil

Moreover, subscribers are invited to submit a suitable tune to match the verse (to be fair, there are six verses, and some are better than the one I've quoted).

Robin

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quote:
Originally posted by The Great God Dyfrig:
Is this from the Christina "Snow was falling, snow on snow / snow snow snow snow snow" Rosetti school of padding out a verse?

I bought the complete works of Christina Rossetti last weekend.

But I haven't managed to read any as my daughter pinched the book.

I like "snow on snow on snow". It's cool. And it's metaphorical. And its well set by Holst (IIRC). Most metaphorical - the long deep winter-time of the soul, geddit?

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L’amor che move il sole e l’altre stelle.

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dorothea
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Robin wrote:

quote:
Simon was a rebel
Jesus loved him still
and replaced his dagger
with a daffodil

now that is a crappy chorus! Maybe I could compose chud all day and give up the day job?

Ken,
I love in the Deep Mid-winter too. It's a classic!

J

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Hopefully by the time ken gets the book back, he will realise what a dreadful, sentimental, drawn out stream of drivel Rosetti wrote.

Come back Felicia Hemans, all is forgiven.

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(crusading)

hands out jump ropes and sings Alan Ginsberg rhyme

"I fought the dharma, and the dharma won."

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I'm told by my literary correspondence that Rosetti wrote a poem about lesbianism. Is this true?

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