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ken
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Actually I was saying the first thing that came in to my head. I have no idea what the weird harmonies they drift off into are. Just that most cogregations can't sing them. There is that wonderful effect when the men croak off into silent quiet groaning as the last verse goes on, leaving the women to whine on, mildly out of tune, dropping out one by one as they realise they no longer know which note to sing.
(Of course in our church most songs sound like that anyway.)
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Komensky
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Sorry Ken, I was just trying to be funny. Your post makes sense, and the examples do sound familar.
K.
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Sinistærial
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Yesterday we sang Let us talents and tongues employ
Apart from some really, really, dodgy rhyming in the verses, everytime I sing this song I get this mental picture of bread rolls boucing around the church.
Boing, boing, boing.
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Karl: Liberal Backslider
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quote:
Originally posted by Sinisterial:
Yesterday we sang Let us talents and tongues employ
Apart from some really, really, dodgy rhyming in the verses, everytime I sing this song I get this mental picture of bread rolls boucing around the church.
Boing, boing, boing.
I really have no idea what Fred Kaan was thinking of when he wrote that, but clearly whatever it was was completely distracting him from writing decent hymnody.
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In reply to: Newman's Own (# 420
Where did you hear the song "Follow Christ"?
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Diamond - welcome aboard!
It is somewhat unlikely that Newman's Own will reply in the near future to your post, since shipmates usually only come to the Dead Horses Board when they have something to contribute or are actively involved in an ongoing discussion.
If you really need an answer I would suggest that you send a PM (private message) using the PM link icon at the top of the Newman's Own post on this thread.
Enjoy yourself on the Ship.
Yours aye ... TonyK
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Zappa
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I don't normally flog dead horses, but I'm preparing for a funeral and ...
... the family want that (ghastly) Deidre Brown song "Come as You are".
In a moment of naive-absent-minded too-lazy-to-type-it-ness I decided to google the title. D'uh. ![[brick wall]](graemlins/brick_wall.gif)
Hmmmm. Could have been an interesting funeral. The first results were ![[Eek!]](eek.gif) (URL disconnected-by-disjoining because this is a family friendly thread) quote:
a co-operatively owned sex toy, book and video store.
in Buenos Aires (see www.comeasyou are.com/masturbate/) ![[Hot and Hormonal]](icon_redface.gif) .
The next links were the Nirvana-related websites.
Kurt Cobain might have appreciated the humour. ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif)
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Sioni Sais
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quote:
Originally posted by Zappa:
I don't normally flog dead horses, but I'm preparing for a funeral and ...
... the family want that (ghastly) Deidre Brown song "Come as You are".
In a moment of naive-absent-minded too-lazy-to-type-it-ness I decided to google the title. D'uh.
Hmmmm. Could have been an interesting funeral. The first results were (URL disconnected-by-disjoining because this is a family friendly thread) quote:
a co-operatively owned sex toy, book and video store.
in Buenos Aires (see www.comeasyou are.com/masturbate/) .
The next links were the Nirvana-related websites.
Kurt Cobain might have appreciated the humour.
Point out that it is copyright protected, your licence doesn't cover it (or like material) so they will have to arrange licensing. If they ask you to say it will cost mayvbe £100.
That should scare tem off.
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Alex Cockell
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quote:
Originally posted by Barnabas62:
quote:
Originally posted by Custard.:
I definitely remember singing ..."Glorious things of Thee are Spoken" (to Austria) in a service shortly after England beat Germany at football...
But what can we sing, from the lexicon of horrible hymns and crappy choruses, when, for example, England are losing at soccer to Northern Ireland? We need a lament! "To Calvary, Lord, in Spirit now"? "By the Rivers of Babylon"? Any ideas?
Its a pity Sven does not appear to be a biblical word ....
Re Quantpole's comments - when were the lyrics to <i>Glorious things of thee are spoken</i> written? As it would be interesting to know whether the composer had re-appropriated "Austria" from Hitler?
Just interested in the timeline between the lyrics.
BTW - Quant, am looking forward to seeing you in 4 and then 11 days (2 Wycliffe bods getting married)
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ken
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quote:
Originally posted by Alex Cockell:
Re Quantpole's comments - when were the lyrics to <i>Glorious things of thee are spoken</i> written? As it would be interesting to know whether the composer had re-appropriated "Austria" from Hitler?
Haydn is a long time before Hitler! Though I'm not sure if he wrote the tune or just arranged it for the Emperor - it does sound awfully like one of those old Lutheran chorales. Not that the likes of the Most Catholic Emperor woudl be dabbling in such things.
Glorious things of thee are spoken is John Newton IIRC, who was a contemporary of Haydn. I've no idea if he wanted to use that tune though.
Cyber Hymnal is our friend... it says the words are in Olney Hymns (1779) but the Emperor's song ("Kaiserlied"??????) was 1797 - so as it was published as a hymn Newton must originally have had another tune in mind.
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sharkshooter
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Originally posted by Sioni Sais:
Point out that it is copyright protected, your licence doesn't cover it (or like material) so they will have to arrange licensing. If they ask you to say it will cost mayvbe £100.
That should scare tem off.
Ah yes, lie to the bereaved because you want to impose your ideas on them. Great idea. ![[Roll Eyes]](rolleyes.gif)
Hint: Whoever a funeral is about, it is not about you.
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quote:
Originally posted by ken:
quote:
Originally posted by Alex Cockell:
Re Quantpole's comments - when were the lyrics to <i>Glorious things of thee are spoken</i> written? As it would be interesting to know whether the composer had re-appropriated "Austria" from Hitler?
Haydn is a long time before Hitler! Though I'm not sure if he wrote the tune or just arranged it for the Emperor - it does sound awfully like one of those old Lutheran chorales. Not that the likes of the Most Catholic Emperor woudl be dabbling in such things.
The Deutschlandlied was being sung to 'Austria' long before there was a Nazi party. According to one hymnal I've seen, Haydn took the tune of the 'Emperor' quartet from a Croatia folk tune. And 'Most Catholic' was the title of the King of Spain - Francis was Holy Roman Emperor and Apostolic King of Hungary...
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Doublethink.
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Originally posted by sharkshooter:
Ah yes, lie to the bereaved because you want to impose your ideas on them. Great idea.
Hint: Whoever a funeral is about, it is not about you.
I agree with you. (Would not normally post just to say that, but wanted to record that rare event.)
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sharkshooter
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Originally posted by Doublethink:
...I agree with you. (Would not normally post just to say that, but wanted to record that rare event.)
Almost everyone agrees with me at least once. You are just the latest victim. ![[Smile]](smile.gif)
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Alex Cockell
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Originally posted by Gill H:
I'm female and a worship leader (and yes, there are plenty of them - just look at any recent Spring Harvest album). If I do 'call and response' songs, I'm doing the 'call' bit. So usually the women end up singing those lines, and the men do the other lines.
The other singers on stage are mostly female too (the men like to hide behind instruments - chicken!).
Or behind the faders/cameras in my case... ![[Snigger]](graemlins/snigger.gif)
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Linguo
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I was introduced on Sunday to an appalling hymn which began
The Church is like a table.
A table that is round.
and didn't get better. Plus it had a hugely inane tune. Really didn't set me up for Communion.
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testbear
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Ooh, can we fill in the rest?
Did it go:
The Church is like a table
A table that is round
...It stands on solid legs
That reach down to the ground
These are the solid legs of faith
That keeps it off the floor
To let the table worship
for ev-er more
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Try it yourself!
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sharkshooter
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quote:
Originally posted by testbear:
Ooh, can we fill in the rest?
Did it go:
The Church is like a table
A table that is round
...It stands on solid legs
That reach down to the ground
These are the solid legs of faith
That keeps it off the floor
To let the table worship
for ev-er more
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Try it yourself!
Does it have 5 legs? Can we call them T, U, L, I and P?
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Gill H
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I'm singing that to 'Puff the Magic Dragon'...
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Jante
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Gill H said
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I'm singing that to 'Puff the Magic Dragon'...
Me too- especially as we have just introduced the toddlers at my church to
God's Love is like a circle!!!!
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GillH and Jante : You are horrid! HORRID! I used to love Puff, but not any more! ![[Waterworks]](graemlins/bawling.gif)
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Linguo
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I can't find the words on the internet anywhere, and I like testbear's version better anyway.
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Last night I had to play Holy Spirit we welcome you and it (the song, not the Spirit!) is now going round and round my head. Argh! ![[Mad]](angryfire.gif)
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testbear
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quote:
Originally posted by leo:
That said, I heard a sermon at a famous local anglo-catholic church where Kendrick was quoted and the words were really good (from Meekness and Majesty) about the theology of the ascension.
Kendrick is much better quoted than sung, in my humble opinion. And - occasionally - his work does age significantly better than most of the rest of what was written at the time.
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Alex Cockell
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I suppose this one belongs here - but working as an email admin means I have to handle requests for stuff to be released from quarantine.
One document I had to pass to our Risk people was an order of service scanned in. On viewing it, I felt VERY sorry for the bride and groom - and everyone else.
The first two "hymns"?
Morning has broken.... ![[Ultra confused]](graemlins/confused2.gif)
followed by...
Bind Us Together.
At some other weddings, we joked about In Christ Alone becoming the SJS of 2003 - but these ones?
Alex
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Covenanter
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quote:
Originally posted by Alex Cockell:
Morning has broken....
Alex
Morning has broken - pick up the pieces
blackbird has spoken - wish he would sing
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[fixed UBB]
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Ex Cathedra
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The church is like a table,
a table that is round,
It has no sides or corners,
no first, no last, no honours;
here people are in one-ness
and love together bound.
The church is like a table
set in an open house;
no protocol for seating,
a symbol of inviting,
of sharing, drinking, eating;
an end to 'them' and 'us'.
The church is like a table,
a table for a feast
to celebrate the healing
of all excluded-feeling,
(while Christ is serving, kneeling,
a towel round his waist).
The church is like a table,
where every head is crowned.
As guests of God created,
all are to each related;
the whole world is awaited
to make the circle round.
It's by Fred Kaan - I quite like it, though I agree the tune's a bit naff.
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Spiffy
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We had a combined parishes picnic (us and some other lot) yesterday.
Musical ensemble consisted of a guitar, an accordian, bongo drums (played by Other!Parish's priest, our deacon wound up leading most of the service, he couldn't pull himself from behind them long enough to give the Absolution) and bagpipes.
Let's review the song sheet, shall we?
Introit: Morning Has Broken (bagpipe solo)
First Hymn: Some hymn I had never heard before, all about thanking God for random things, including our parents who teach us daily. And the average age of attendees was hovering around 65.
Gospel Processional: Thy Word is a Lamp Unto My Feet
Preperation Hymn: Here I am, Lord
Postcommunion Hymn: Give Thanks
Closing Hymn: Shine, Jesus, Shine
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Alex Cockell
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Originally posted by Spiffy da WonderSheep:
Musical ensemble consisted of a guitar, an accordian, bongo drums (played by Other!Parish's priest, our deacon wound up leading most of the service, he couldn't pull himself from behind them long enough to give the Absolution) and bagpipes.
Let's review the song sheet, shall we?
Introit: Morning Has Broken (bagpipe solo)
First Hymn: Some hymn I had never heard before, all about thanking God for random things, including our parents who teach us daily. And the average age of attendees was hovering around 65.
Gospel Processional: Thy Word is a Lamp Unto My Feet
Preperation Hymn: Here I am, Lord
Postcommunion Hymn: Give Thanks
Closing Hymn: Shine, Jesus, Shine
AAAGGGGGHHHHH!!!!!!
One of the WORST playlists I've ever heard! ![[Projectile]](graemlins/puke2.gif)
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Divine Outlaw
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quote:
Originally posted by Alex Cockell:
At some other weddings, we joked about In Christ Alone becoming the SJS of 2003
No, seriously? People begin their married life together through chirping about 'the wrath of God being satisfied'? Lovely.
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We sang that at a wedding we attended last Saturday sounded alright to me.
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In Christ Alone lyrics here (the Newsboys). Or are we talking about some other song? I like it, but I wouldn't consider it wedding fare.
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Alex Cockell
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Re "In Christ Alone" being called the SJS of 2004 - this was when it was sung EVERYWHERE.
Only it's good.
Alex
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we had in Christ alone at our wedding, because it is a very significant song for both of us. I like it. I think it is good. Sorry!
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And I am having it at my wedding next month- it has special significance to me, and am happy to declare " Here in the love of Christ I stand" and "Here ibn the power of Christ I stand" as I start my married life.
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quote:
Originally posted by Jante:
And I am having it at my wedding next month- it has special significance to me, and am happy to declare " Here in the love of Christ I stand" and "Here in the power of Christ I stand" as I start my married life.
I think it very much depends on whether you can stomach `the wrath of God was satisfied'. Other than that one line, I think it is a good hymn and I'm particularly impressed by the fact that it has a verse on the Resurrection, but I have major theological problems with that one line. If you're ok with PSA you're probably ok with it, but if not ... .
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Ladies and Gentleman, I have found my home thread. Grumbling about hymns are my speciality. Being in a choir for years forced me to sing various things, but in my Verging days I'd simply walk out when I couldn't stand a hymn.
Excuse me, but I haven't time to read all 26 pages, so will just add the hymns and songs I hate:
Christ is made the sure foundation (not a bad tune, but I've seen this song murdered many times, well, heard it, and it's too much)
That 'you're my (something), you're my (something else), you're my (something again) my righteousness, and I love you Lord' song
Any song involving clapping (well, any non Liverpool FC song)
Who put the colour in the rainbow? (it wasn't me, Mum)
At the name of Jesus (with either tunes)
I want to see Jesus lifted high (I want to see the person who wrote this hung high)
The Servant King
in fact anything by Kendrick
Of the glorious body telling (not the words, or the plainsong, but there's one horribly tune which my old Church used to sing each Benediction, to all the bloody verses)
I'll be back with more.
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Ena
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At my school a special favourite is 'Be Bold' ... as in
Be bold
Be strong
for the LORD your GOD is with you.
Be bold
Be strong
for the LORD your GOD is with you.
I am not afraid (NO NO NO!)
I am not dismayed (NOT ME!)
for I'm walking in faith and victory
come on and walk in faith and victory
for the LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORD
your GOOOOOOD
is WIIIIIIIIII IIIIIIIIII IIIIIIIIITH YOU!
with shouting and enthusiasm. Which I'm not used to seeing in assembly. Oh, and I hate any of the cheesy stuff by Rutter. I don't mind the All Things Bright and Beautiful, but most of his pieces...
The headmistress likes Rutter. Well, either that or that's the head of music's excuse and he's sticking to it!
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quote:
Originally posted by Ena:
At my school a special favourite is 'Be Bold' ... as in
Be bold
Be strong
for the LORD your GOD is with you.
Be bold
Be strong
for the LORD your GOD is with you.
I am not afraid (NO NO NO!)
I am not dismayed (NOT ME!)
for I'm walking in faith and victory
come on and walk in faith and victory
for the LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORD
your GOOOOOOD
is WIIIIIIIIII IIIIIIIIII IIIIIIIIITH YOU!
with shouting and enthusiasm. Which I'm not used to seeing in assembly.
I loved that song when I was at primary school! Another favourite sung with great enthusiasm was
My God is so big, so strong and so mighty
There's nothing my God cannot do. (THAT'S TRUE!)
My God is so big, so strong and so mighty
There's nothing my God cannot do. (THAT'S TRUE!)
The mountains are His,
The valleys are His,
The stars are His handiwork too.
My God is so big, so strong and so mighty
There's nothing my God cannot do. (THAT'S TRUE!)
I actually was at this particular school recently helping out with a 40 Hour Famine promotion at Tuesday morning worship. They used a backing CD to use the 2004 PlanetShakers version (Word Bookstore audio sample link) which is a great improvement from the old out of tune piano!
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Dennis the Menace
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I have just joined the SOF after reading all 26 pages of the HH & CC and now add my bit. I worked for a funeral parlour for many years and have been a church organist for more years than I care to admit, and during that time was often called upon 'to fill in' when there was no one available, mostly on sub standard instruments at remote country churches.
My least favourite hymns are "Amazing Grace" and 23rd Psalm which generally are chosen by non church folk (to add that touch of religion to the service) and very often are 'ruined' by the mourners and/or the keyboard player (not mwah!).
I recall one service with SIX hymns and packed church and no one except for the minister sang a word. The instrument was a lovely restored harmonium which had, thankfully, an electric blower. (or should that be sucker??) Just as well for that as one hymn had EIGHT verses.
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Welcome, Gay Organ Grinder. As you quite obviously have more time on your hands than you know what to do with, may I recommend Musical Irreverence - the thread which sucked me onto the Ship (from before the Ship had this Board software) and the original CC&HH thread.
If you're not a gibbering wreck after that lot ...
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Leprechaun
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Originally posted by Divine Outlaw Dwarf:
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At some other weddings, we joked about In Christ Alone becoming the SJS of 2003
No, seriously? People begin their married life together through chirping about 'the wrath of God being satisfied'? Lovely.
Some of us think that the wrath of God being satisfied is a good thing worth remembering on your wedding day. It's a wedding favourite of the last couple of years IME.
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Thanks for your welcome, Ann. FWIW I read the 26 pages over a few weeks!!! I will now plough my way through Musical Irreverence.
Now for yesterday's 'music'. We had a DVD (UGH) for our praise time with "Worthy is the Lamb/Crown Him With Many Crowns". Not a bad song, apart from the line "the darling of heaven" (makes my skin crawl) but I can't stand singing to DVD's when there several of us musos present, some of course, better than others. I was working the power point and sound desk and was tempted to hijack the DVD but thought better of it.
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I was working the power point and sound desk and was tempted to hijack the DVD but thought better of it.
You're not the only one who has had such urges. At my church the DVDs have some appeal, namely that the tempo is steady and the music is sung on key, so dispite the temptation I usually don't mess with them.
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Originally posted by Gay Organ Grinder:
I was working the power point and sound desk and was tempted to hijack the DVD but thought better of it.
You're not the only one who has had such urges. At my church the DVDs have some appeal, namely that the tempo is steady and the music is sung on key, so dispite the temptation I usually don't mess with them.
We'll occasionally use a DVD thing (are you using those horrible iWorship ones?) but mute the sound and have the band play it to the same tempo. But we are also a large church blessed with a large number of very talented musicians, and I recognise it's probably harder for most churches.
A couple of the leaders at my church would actually like to do more of this stuff - they practically salivate over the video stuff used by Chris Tomlin, Matt Redman and Louie Giglio on the Indescribable tour!
ETA: a good way to make sure a DVD soesn't work is to mess with the EQ on that channel. Never fails!
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Yes, they are those horrible 'worship' ones. I will keep in mind fiddling with the EQ for when next I have to face the same DVD.
What I can't understand is that we have ten capable pianists/organist who are very able to knock out these tunes but somewhere the powers that be insist on having these horrid DVD's. I feel the minister doesn't want to upset anyone!! Also my partner of 26 years, felt travel sick watching the DVD go at break neck speed through canyons, down rivers and over mountains and the quality of the picture was crap too.
There, now I feel much better for having told you guys here!!!
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...the powers that be insist on having these horrid DVD's. ...
Time to "misplace" the DVD? Or have it suffer a regrettable scratch in the innermost ring?
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The main problem I have with the Integrity iWorship DVDs is that the visuals are all the same generic pictures of nice green hills and stuff - highly insulting given our extreme drought at the moment. The second problem I have with them is that all the music is crappy stuff by Paul Baloche and others of the same style. I am so thankful that sixsteps music protects their copyright so well because I don't want my love for current Chris Tomlin / Passion music ruined by crappy DVDs. Especially Indescribable.
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