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The Great Gumby
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quote: Originally posted by Keren-Happuch: Someone was playing a CD yesterday evening with Matt Redman singing a song which included the word "antheming"
Would that be this one?
It's vile verbing, sure enough, but Keats was there first with quote: ...Sweet birds antheming the morn And, in the same moment, hark! 'Tis the early April lark...
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The Great Gumby
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That must be the first time anyone's ever compared Matt Redman to Keats!
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Lyra
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quote: Originally posted by Sarah G:
Many of us are familiar with the GK classic “I’m special”.
Sure am. I survived the singing of this recently in my church (by the church school ) by quietly humming the Orville song to myself. Not that they're alike or anything.....
And Orville, you are my very best friend....
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The Scrumpmeister
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Oh wow! You've posted! Hello. Are you online now?
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Sarah G
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The person leading the service today announced we were going to sing “Jive, Jesus Jive”. Truly a candidate for the worst variation on a song ever.
I was slightly disappointed when he announced he was having an off day, and it was actually “Shine Jesus Shine”.
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Carys
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Not quite a horrible hymn, but a slightly bizarre image from William Williams, Pantycelyn in a hymn we sang this morning. One line was `nofio yn gwaed [Iesu/yr Oen?]' which means `swimming in the blood [of Jesus/the lamb] (I can't quite remember the end). Somehow I found swimming in the blood even odder than washing in it. I know where the imagery comes from and at some level can cope with it, but it sounds strange if you are not familiar with the tradition.
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HenryT
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This Sunday's Advent 3 featured Now That the Daylight Fills the Sky, with this verse: quote:
So we, when this new day is gone and night in turn is drawing on, with conscience by the hours unstained, shall praise thy name for victory gained.
It's credited "from the Latin 7th century, tr. John Mason Neale and the compilers". Those last three words usually strike terror into my heart, as it means that the hymn book committee messed with it. The book in question is the 1971 Hymn Book of the Anglican Church of Canada and the United Church of Canada.
The AABB rhyme scheme is clunky, and the sentiment reminds me too much of "God, I thank you that I am not like other men" in Luke 18:9-14. But other than that, it's fine
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HenryT
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quote: Originally posted by Henry Troup: quote:
So we, when this new day is gone and night in turn is drawing on, with conscience by the hours unstained, shall praise thy name for victory gained.
The version at Oremus seems much better: quote: So we, when this day's work is o'er, and shades of night return once more, our path of trial safely trod, shall give the glory to our God.
I guess I like my Victorian hymns unreconstructed?
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Choirboy
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The version that you didn't like appears at Prime in the Monastic Diurnal, translated by Charles Winfred Douglas, first printed 1932, although mine is the recent reprint of the '63 edition. Thus the translation perhaps predates the compilers of the hymnal from '71. Just so that blame is directed in the right direction.
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HenryT
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quote: Originally posted by Choirboy: ...translated by Charles Winfred Douglas, first printed 1932, ... Thus the translation perhaps predates the compilers of the hymnal from '71. Just so that blame is directed in the right direction.
Seems like they've also mis-attributed the translation.
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TonyK
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Callan said in Styx:
I double-dog dare TonyK and Louise to arbitrarily move two or three threads from Dead Horses to Purgatory. Or Hell.
Purgatory I think ....
So here we go......
With all due acknowledgements to all those whom I am supposed to acknowledge...
Returned from Purgatory, after a short diversion to the Circus! Off-topic posts that were added during the Hosts' and Admins' funtime will be deleted to protect the inncocent! Comment added 27th Dec 2006 [ 27. December 2006, 14:04: Message edited by: TonyK ]
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balaam
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It's Christ-mas. Time when bad theology in lyrics comes into its own.
We have to sing them because it's traditional to sing them. But...
O little town of Bethlehem, how still we see thee lie. Still? Lots of people had made it to Bethlehem that night and there was no room anywhere, the place was chaotic. But let's not bother with the truth of the Gospel, because it's Christ-mas, a time for fucking sentimentality.
But little Lord Jesus no crying he makes Yeah, sure. And the bit about him being fully human?
Little children all must be, Mild, obedient, good as he. Except mild and obedient don't fit with the story that Jesus, aged 12, stayed in the temple and didn't return with his parents. Two days later when they find him, he tells them off.
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Oriel
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quote: Originally posted by Balaam:
But little Lord Jesus no crying he makes Yeah, sure. And the bit about him being fully human?
When I sung that carol as a child (and why does everyone make *children* sing it and never let the grown-ups at it? Sung nicely, it's beautiful) I never thought that it meant that Jesus never cried. I assumed it meant that Jesus happened not to cry when he woke on that particular occasion. (The cattle aren't always lowing, either, after all.) It's an image; an icon in words. I was quite surprised to find that most people seemed to think it meant that he never cried at all. Maybe I was just too sensible a five-year-old.
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balaam
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Strangely I quite like songs such as See amid the winter's snow, and In the bleak mid-winter.
Although I know the weather was unlikely to have been like that, I like the idea of making the incarnation real to people in other chimates. The theology expressed in these songs seems OK to my mind too. But when sound theology is replaced by Victorian sentimentality.
The problem with having these songs chosen for worship is what do you do? If I sing them I feel a hypocrite for singing something I don't believe, and if I refuse to sing them I feel a hypocrite for not joining in with the rest of the congregation.
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Oriel
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On topic, one of my least favourite Christmas carols is Gardner's version of Tomorrow Shall Be My Dancing Day. This song is, according to the words, both a love song (God's love for us) and a dance (of joy). Gardner's version is neither. It changes time impossibly often to dance to, and is far too jickety and breathless to ever evoke the feelings of love. It is foul and horrible and I loathe it.
It's even sadder because the traditional tune is beautiful and fits the words (which are also beautiful and evocative) far better. Yet no-one ever sings it. Instead, I have to tolerate this musical garbage every year in one or other of my choirs (one secular, one church), and everyone else exclaims how nice it is and how much they love it, even though no-one can do the snare-drum part. Why? Why?! WHY?!!
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Oriel
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quote: Originally posted by Balaam:
The problem with having these songs chosen for worship is what do you do? If I sing them I feel a hypocrite for singing something I don't believe, and if I refuse to sing them I feel a hypocrite for not joining in with the rest of the congregation.
I wonder about this sometimes myself, especially when the idiots who took out the sexist language[1] in our hymn book get it wrong again and ascribe properties to God that were written as man's and vice versa (thus we have God's toil availing naught or humans exalted). I generally take the view that I should sing what's written, in a gesture of assent to community worship with the rest of the congregation (unless it's an obvious typo that the rest of the congregation won't be singing anyway, like the time in For All The Saints when the countless host were supposed to stream 'through gates of pear').
Yet at the same time I know that there is a line I'd have to draw somewhere; I don't think I could sing 'O great Satan, bring evil and pain upon our world and rule over all'. I just don't think I've found that line yet.
But I do whinge about it afterwards.
[1] My response to 'sexist language' is that we shouldn't be changing what the poet wrote, but writing more (good!) hymns with feminine imagery to redress the balance.
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Karl: Liberal Backslider
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quote: Originally posted by Balaam: Strangely I quite like songs such as See amid the winter's snow, and In the bleak mid-winter.
Although I know the weather was unlikely to have been like that, I like the idea of making the incarnation real to people in other chimates. The theology expressed in these songs seems OK to my mind too. But when sound theology is replaced by Victorian sentimentality.
The problem with having these songs chosen for worship is what do you do? If I sing them I feel a hypocrite for singing something I don't believe, and if I refuse to sing them I feel a hypocrite for not joining in with the rest of the congregation.
The "bleak midwinter" has little to do with meteorology.
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Puter-Guy
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I had remarked to my wife a few days ago that it really grates on me when "I could sing of your looove for-e-ver" sounds like they should be singing "I can't wait til this sooong is-o-ver"...
Why do people mindlessly mumble songs they obviously don't think about, much less mean, is beyond me. "Sing it like you mean it, or don't sing it at all"
(3rd string backup plan worship leader at my church, I have vowed to never again sing a song I don't mean or can't understand the logic of...)
2nd biggest (after singing songs people obviously don't mean, and man is it a close 2nd) pet peeve: singing haphazardly organized songs (As if selected by randomly flipping open the song book, 6 songs that have nothing in common, conceptually or musically, save that we sing them in the same building.)
Song I have most come to hate hearing that is inexplicably sang in the church I attend (Only place I have ever heard it, since i don't "get" country music):Long Black Train I mean, what IS this Black Train?
May you never have to endure such dreadful "Worship" "Leading" at your place of worship.
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Sarah G
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quote: Originally posted by Puter-Guy:
2nd biggest (after singing songs people obviously don't mean, and man is it a close 2nd) pet peeve: singing haphazardly organized songs (As if selected by randomly flipping open the song book, 6 songs that have nothing in common, conceptually or musically, save that we sing them in the same building.)
I suspect your music group is larger than ours, because from time to time we have the opposite problem, that the night’s service leader has a “theme to this evening’s service”, and insists on sticking to his songs regardless of that evening’s musical line-up.
So faced with a pianist who doesn’t do modern rhythms, a classical guitarist, a flautist and a bassist, he will insist on keeping “Shine, Jesus, Shine”, “Men of Faith” or, the ultimate, “The World is Looking for a Hero”. A simple switch to anything we can play without sounding totally naff is all that’s needed, but NO! We are informed that if we don’t feel comfortable playing, it, the offending song can be sung a cappella. (He means this, seriously, not as a joke, threat or insult!)
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Oriel
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Oh, and two gems from this morning's service. The first hymn was a dreadfully condescending thing, with verses about how everybody rejected Jesus and the refrain 'O come to my heart, Lord Jesus, there is room in my heart for thee'. Oh, poor Jesus, nobody likes you – don't worry, I'll look after you. Look how good I am!
The second had the lines, addressed to Jesus:
You say that God is good; prove it is true, Mary's child go to your cross of wood.
Oh dear. Go on, Jesus, get crucifed, get on with it. We're waiting!
(The third hymn was In the Bleak Midwinter, which I like, but which doesn't work as the hymn immediately after a sermon whose point, if it had one at all, was that we need to move on from the sentimentality of Christmas. The fourth hymn was Angel Voices Ever Singing, only the second verse had been changed to avoid the 'songs of sinful man'. Instead, 'mortal eye can see' was rhymed with 'our poor hymnody'. While I understand, though don't agree with, the desire to remove the 'man', removing 'sinful' as well changes the meaning of the verse from 'God might not care about us because of our sin – but yes, he does, because he loves us!' to 'God might not like our singing because it's not skilful enough – but yes, he does, he doesn't seem to have that much taste'.)
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quote: Originally posted by Puter-Guy: I had remarked to my wife a few days ago that it really grates on me when "I could sing of your looove for-e-ver" sounds like they should be singing "I can't wait til this sooong is-o-ver"...
Totally agree - me and my girlfriend exchange glances whenever this is sung - usually at the type of place where they do sing this chorus forever. I hate the "hey look - we're getting so spiritual by singing the same chorus again, again and again" attitude. What I think is really happening is people are becoming mildly hypotised by the repetition.
Could this be a new thread in purgatory?
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Gill H
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Hate that song, and I'm glad that in my circles it hasn't been sung for at least 2 years now. "I've been singing this song forever" was my version.
As a pianist, I usually livened it up by playing the melody line from Robbie Williams' 'Strong' along with it. You could always sing that under your breath.
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I'm really scared - this is my first ever post, and I'm not sure I'm doing it right, being not very computer-literate, and all. But I thought I'd wade in with something fairly safe. (Wait till I get going!) Anyhow, here's the first half of my favourite children's hymn found in The Scottish Hymnal from 1890 (so copyright no problem??)
Within the churchyard, side by side, Are many long low graves; And some have stones set over them, On some the green grass waves.
Full many a little Christian child, Woman, and man, lies there; And we pass them by every time When we go in to prayer.
They cannot hear our footsteps come, They do not see us pass; They cannot feel the bright warm sun That shines upon the grass.
They do not hear when the great bell Is ringing overhead; They cannot rise and come to church With us, for they are dead.
They don't make 'em like that anymore! (Did I get it right?)
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quote: Originally posted by Cottontail: here's the first half of my favourite children's hymn found in The Scottish Hymnal from 1890 (so copyright no problem??)
This is wonderful - can you give us the second half please?
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Margaret
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Oh Cottontail! Thank you! It's in the original Hymns Ancient and Modern too, and a schoolfriend and I used to play it on the gym piano and sing it in lugubrious tones during wet lunch breaks when we couldn't go outside.
Those are all the verses I know - I'd be SO pleased to hear some more!
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TonyK
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Welcome Cottontail - a very good first post!
The internet site oremus.com has an online hymnal giving words and tune for many hymns. 'Within a churchyard' is listed here though currently the links to the hymns doesn't seem to be working.
With regard to copyright, it is probably OK to quote a hymn that old in full, but we do have to take care with this. Oremus.com is very useful in these cases and cutting and pasting the link into the window opened by the URL button, adding some text, is very convenient for shipmates.
There is a UBB practice thread in the Styx Board if you want to try out this sort of thing.
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Cottontail
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Justlooking, Margaret - thanks for your welcome. TonyK, I appreciate the advice and the link to the oremus site. I'll get the hang of this soon!
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The Crab
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I have gone through 29 pages of side splitting hilarity and it is now the small hours of Sunday on this side of the world. I hope I will stay awake in church long enough to cast a critical eye over the lyrics. I have cringed at many of the horrors mentioned, but I think none of them are a patch on the Sunday School hymn we used to sing in a Gloucestershire Independent Methodist Chapel:
Over the sea there are little brown children; Fathers, and mothers and babies dear. They have not heard of the dear Lord in Heaven; They do not know that God is near.
Swift let the message go over the water, etc. It was a great favourite of the minister, who later became a missionary in Sierre Leone. The rest of us stayed at home to enjoy the influx of immigrant run curry houses into Cheltenham.
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A warm welcome, Crab! Hope you enjoy this cyberplace. Fascinating "olde worlde" hymn verse - I'd never seen or heard that before. When it comes to cringe, patronising racism beats repetition every time!
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HenryT
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quote: Originally posted by The Crab: ...
Over the sea there are little brown children; Fathers, and mothers and babies dear. They have not heard of the dear Lord in Heaven; They do not know that God is near.
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I've encountered that one ... cna't find it online.
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Gill H
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I remember that one too, Crab! We used to think we were being so nice to the poor little children. (Mind you, even then it would have been more accurate so sing "Over the road there are little brown children" - and most of them were more dedicated churchgoers than we were!)
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The Bede's American Successor
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quote: Originally posted by The Crab: Over the sea there are little brown children; Fathers, and mothers and babies dear. They have not heard of the dear Lord in Heaven; They do not know that God is near.
quote: Where children wade through rice fields And watch the camel trains. —from "Remember all the people" Hymnal 1940, #262 (See complete words to hymn.)
Is there any wonder some of us, while missing some things in the Hymnal 1940, were happy to get the Hymnal 1982.
I have sung "Remember all the people" in church once. It was the processional hymn. I was in the choir, singing with the basses.
As soon as the beginning of the second verse began, the four tenors in front of us baritones/basses—and the rector—started acting like apes. Yes, while walking in procession.
Let's just say that no one on the tail end of the procession was able to fully recover before the end of the hymn. The rector was still laughing at "Blessed be God: Father, Son, and Holy Spirit."
This hymn was never used again.
(Actually, I believe the tenors deserved some sort of award for saving us from that hymn being used ever again.)
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HenryT
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While looking for the one cited (unsuccessfully) I found plenty of these "mission" or "missionary" hymns. It forces me to fall back on L.P. Hartley: quote: The past is a foreign country - they do things differently there.
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Reuben
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I used to teach this one to the impressionable un-churched kiddies at Beach Mission in my youth (spell out the words separated by dashes):
quote: I am a C I am a C-H I am a C-H-R-I-S-T-I-A-N And I have C-H-R-I-S-T in my H-E-A-R-T and I will L-I-V-E E-T-E-R-N-A-L-L-Y.
(repeat getting faster and faster each time until no one can sing fast enough....)
I'm not sure how many kids we converted with that song. But maybe a couple got good at spelling bees...??
I mean in hindsight, Arky Arky and Father Abraham were gems compared to this confused little ditty. Be far better to sing it in a confirmation/baptism service hey?
ps. apologies if this song has already been posted. I couldn't find it in the 29 pages above!
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Teufelchen
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quote: Originally posted by The Crab: Over the sea there are little brown children; Fathers, and mothers and babies dear. They have not heard of the dear Lord in Heaven; They do not know that God is near.
My mother recalled singing that one as a girl at school in, er, Tottenham. Even then, there were significant numbers of (observant Christian) non-white immigrants in the area.
One which I don't think I've ever sung, but which combines racism, imperialism, and some damn funny imagery, in From Greenland's Icy Mountains, which should be sung at dirge-like speed to Aurelia for full effect:
quote: From Greenland’s icy mountains, from India’s coral strand; Where Afric’s sunny fountains roll down their golden sand: From many an ancient river, from many a palmy plain, They call us to deliver their land from error’s chain.
Afric? Sunny fountains of sand?
Yer what?
It goes on to talk about Ceylon, 'where every prospect pleases, and only man is vile' - this was amended to Java, rather than Ceylon, in later versions - which at least fits the tune better.
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quote: Originally posted by Teufelchen: My mother recalled singing that one as a girl at school in, er, Tottenham. Even then, there were significant numbers of (observant Christian) non-white immigrants in the area.
Who as they weren't overseas and were Christians obviously aren't the people the song was about. The burden of it being that those dear children who are overseas need Jesus just as much as anyone else. Thats a really crap and patronising song but it isn't racist! The racist thing to do, in the context of the times, would have been to leave them in their ignorance. NB the British government (and before them the East India Company) was in general opposed to missionary activity in most of the Empire. As, of course, were lots of slave-traders and slave-keepers. Taking Christianity to people was a way of treating them as equal, as people like yourself. And not infrequently a way of liberateing them, both economically and metaphorically. The opposite of racism.
quote: One which I don't think I've ever sung, but which combines racism, imperialism, and some damn funny imagery, in From Greenland's Icy Mountains,
I have sung it. Its actually rather good in some ways.
quote: Afric? Sunny fountains of sand?
Yer what?
"Afric" is a bit of really naff 19th-century pseudo-archaic Latinised English. Its supposed to be Poetic. Itys terrible English. But its not racist. If it was would Marcus Garvey have used it?
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Afric's Love
1. When Afric's sun was setting fast The Prophets told the tale, But Psalmists said she'd win at last And pass beyond the vale.
Chorus: Come sing the song of Afric's love The love of God so dear, The Father great in realms above, The greatest when so near.
2. The day has come for us to see The glory of our name, The hour of our jubilee Will crown our greatest fame.
3. The hand of God is showing how Our princes shall arrive; Old Egypt's land is throbbing now With souls that are alive.
4. For ages past our sons were slain On altars far and near, But all was destined, purging pain To point the way so fair.
5. As Israel's people suffered long, So Afric's host must do, But ours shall be the joyous song By hearts most firm and true.
6. When tides of ocean cease to be, Our joys will be immense, For that will be our jubilee Our faith this day commence.
And they aren't "sunny fountains of sand". They are "sunny fountains", i.e. springs or streams of fresh water with the sun shining on them as they pass over sandy beaches into the sea. Not just Poetic but arguablypoetry.
quote: It goes on to talk about Ceylon, 'where every prospect pleases, and only man is vile'
OK, that is somewhat unfortunate phraseology... [ 16. January 2007, 15:06: Message edited by: ken ]
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Apologies if this song has been mentioned before, but I was looking at music CDs with the Vicar, and we came across this one "Lord you put a tongue in my mouth".
Well, we played it and it was TRULY awful!
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Oh there was another one too, to the tune of the "hokey cokey"... truly dire...
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quote: Originally posted by ken: quote: Originally posted by Teufelchen: [QUOTE][qb] It goes on to talk about Ceylon, 'where every prospect pleases, and only man is vile'
OK, that is somewhat unfortunate phraseology...
I be that's one that proponents of the virus of political correctness won't be rushing to make geneder inclusive!
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quote: Originally posted by Love the You you hide: Apologies if this song has been mentioned before, but I was looking at music CDs with the Vicar, and we came across this one "Lord you put a tongue in my mouth".
Well, we played it and it was TRULY awful!
And if you're a teenager (or have the mind of one) it takes those 'Jesus Is My Boyfriend' songs to a whole other level!
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Inside every grumpy old fart there is a teenager trying to get out.
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quote: Originally posted by ken: Inside every grumpy old fart there is a teenager trying to get out.
Is that why they hate us so much, and call us meddling kids, and cut our allowance and make us come home by 11 on weekends?
well to them all i say "HAHA IM STILL YOUNG AND I CAN DO WHAT I LIKE, YOU'RE JUST JEALOUS!" and blow rasberries in theyre general direction.
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And i would say the song in cheeseburgers signature "the geneology of jesus" is the best hymn ever ^_^ lol!
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quote: Originally posted by mmmerangue: And i would say the song in cheeseburgers signature "the geneology of jesus" is the best hymn ever ^_^ lol!
Is that because it's 100% Biblical or because it's funny? And before you asked, it's not me but do happen to know the man responsible.
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Not a Crappy Chorus but a funny moment in church yesterday. We sang Matt Redman's 'O Sacred King', with our guitarist giving his usual 4-note riff as an intro - but meanwhile the bass player was definitely playing the bassline from 'Walk On The Wild Side'. I had a hard time not to sing "doo de doo de doo do de do" ...
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Oh - not necessarily crappy - but we have really good musos. As an intro to "There's a place where the streets shine", our guitarist used a major-key version of the intro to Free's All Right Now.
It worked.
On the crappy note - WHY does Chris Martin ALWAYS use conditional phrasing?
From "I can't wait till this song is over" - "Oh - I feel like dancing/It's foolishness I know..." Feel? FEEL like dancing - then why not dance?
I had a scan through SoF - and saw other Delirious lyrics talking about "I could"... etc...
Oh - and I was on video duty when SJS was on the playlist... and was deftly bumped... "Next one is SJS, shall we bother?" discussed the music group - as it was an either /or... I replied, verly loudly (I was mounting our second camera at the time) "NO!"
The vote was carried. SJS went into the roundfile...
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quote: Originally posted by Alex Cockell: ...Chris Martin
...Martin Smith. Easily confused, I know: one is a talented yet mild-mannered frontman specialising in mediocre mid-tempo epic sweeping indie-rock designed to appeal to as many people with no real musical taste, and the other is [insert your own punchline].
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We had that song where the chorus begins "We raise up holy hands" last night at our house group.
I had to leave the room, someone else came to see if I was OK, I explained and we had to shut the door.
Please, lyricists, think about these words. We aren't all as pure in thought, word and deed as you are.
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