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ken
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O God, that Great Tsunami
Some people ought to have their poetic licences revoked. Others hsoudlnever have been issued with them.
Being pedantic for a moment, is the meaning of the first verse of this song be sensitive to the difference between those often-confused words "O" and "Oh"? [ 16. August 2007, 09:53: Message edited by: ken ]
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John Donne
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Oh dear. Pastor Peter Holden. He's Australian. I'm deeply sorry. Not only do we have Elizabeth J. Smith, but now this!
Regarding 'O'. I assumed it was the vocative use.
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Miffy
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quote: Originally posted by Chorister: A compilation based on this thread would make rather a good hymnbook. Then we could all gather round the church piano for a nostalgic 'Crappy Choruses and Horrible Hymns' evening (a la Moody and Sankey) every now and again. Perhaps the Diocese of Wenchoster would be interested in hosting such an event?
Chorister, this sounds the sort of thing that Greenbelt might be into. Not that I've ever been, you understand. What with all the Shippie regulars there, the potential for sales is tremendous. A few sneaky bribes of Green and Blacks, a free portaloo or three, world domination could be ours! It might even qualify as a Fresh Expression!
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Trudy Scrumptious
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"Sewage is washed down-river while lonely orphans cry"
No, seriously? People can't actually stand up in church and sing that sewage is washed downriver, can they?
I am actually a fan of an awful lot of songs that are regularly vilified on this thread, but that "Great Tsunami" selection has finally crystallized what it is I consider crappy in a hymn, and that is any attempt to put to music words that are completely prosaic and have no place in poetry. It's not the sentiment -- it's not that you can't sing about disasters; I think "Eternal Father, Strong to Save" is a fine hymn about people dying at sea, and I'm sure you could write a good hymn about a tsunami, but ... putting a phrase like "sewage is washed downriver" into a song is not the way to do it. Likewise I'm sure you could write an excellent hymn about God in our working lives, but "God of concrete, God of steel" certainly went in the wrong direction.
I feel so much better now that I've figured out what it is that I hate.
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Trudy's post just made me realise how literally this latest 'hymn' under discussion does fit the thread title - crappy choruses indeed! ![[Snigger]](graemlins/snigger.gif) [ 26. August 2007, 11:43: Message edited by: Gracious rebel ]
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Today we had our bible club service. So we sang 3 action songs and "all things bright and beautiful".
We even sang the club theme song 3 times. 3. And it began "what a load of rubbish". And that just about summed it up. And the worst thing - this is thhe only church service today. At least when we normally have "all age worship" (all age!! Yeah right!! some 5-7 year olds more like) there is communion in the evening, so I can recover. ![[Help]](graemlins/help.gif) [ 26. August 2007, 17:04: Message edited by: Jenn R ]
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Miffy
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quote: Originally posted by leo: Not a crappy chorus as such but...for tiday's gradual hymn we sang an oldie which included the line 'when he had purged our stains'.*
There was a young couple there who have never been to church before - I wonder what they made of it. Something about Jesus being washing powder?
Or like a sort of heavenly emetic?
* 'Rejoice, the Lord is King,' I presume?
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Gracious rebel
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That version is slightly less gross than the other one though - no sewage washed down river for a start! Definitely some plagiarism going on there though.
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Custard
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It's pretty bad when sung to "The Laughing Policeman"...
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ken
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quote: Originally posted by leo: I wonder what they made of it. Something about Jesus being washing powder?
Perhaps unfortunatly that image is Biblical.
Malachi 3:
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But who can endure the day of his coming? And who can stand when he appears? For he is like a refiner's fire and like fullers' soap.
"fullers' soap" being the Daz of the day.
And Jesus obviously does his own washing.
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Six days later, Jesus took with him Peter and James and John, and brought them up on a high mountain by themselves. And he was transfigured before them and his garments became radiant and exceedingly white, as no launderer on earth can whiten them.
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quote: Originally posted by ken: O God, that Great Tsunami
Some people ought to have their poetic licences revoked. Others hsoudlnever have been issued with them.
Being pedantic for a moment, is the meaning of the first verse of this song be sensitive to the difference between those often-confused words "O" and "Oh"?
It's a much better hymn when it's sung to "The Lincolnshire Poacher." ![[Devil]](graemlins/devil.gif)
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Carys
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Strangely when I read those words (Tsunami), the tune that came to mind was Aurelia (The Church's One Foundation) and I found it very difficult to sing them to Passion Chorale.
We can't their bodies find just isn't English. I think it is that you can't put the object between the auxiliary and main verb. So it would have to be We their bodies can't find but even that is strained, probably because of the contraction can't. The original reads as we know that poetry sometimes inverts word order but we don't understand the rules so we'll just put it in any order.
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quote: Originally posted by Carys: We can't their bodies find just isn't English. I think it is that you can't put the object between the auxiliary and main verb. So it would have to be We their bodies can't find but even that is strained, probably because of the contraction can't. The original reads as we know that poetry sometimes inverts word order but we don't understand the rules so we'll just put it in any order.
Carys
We can't their bodies find sounds fine (in poetry) to me, while we their bodies can't find sounds terrible.
The first construction is just like we may lovely be isn't it? Or is that only OK in love to the loveless shown that we may lovely be because it occurs in a purpose clause?
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Lamb Chopped
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Oh, it's grammatical all right; it's just crap.
Does anyone else get seriously annoyed at hymns like this one that address God as if he were a town meeting? All wind and piss (oops, rhetoric and hot air--the hymn, I mean) and not a request to be found. Just a lot of self-righteous posturing. Might as well be talking to the mirror.
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<tangent> You're right, Lamb Chopped. It occurs to me that there seems to me to be a shortage of contemporary laments for corporate worship. Which strikes me as a crappy omission; there are often matters for individual and corporate lamenting and mourning.
Maybe I'll ask the question in Eccles? </tangent>
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I took a copy of the tsunami hymn to church today and terrified my choir into thinking we were singing it! I'll have to do penance for weeks. The author of this ghastly hymn will be punished in the afterlife. I'm so embarrassed to be an Australian.
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duchess
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quote: Originally posted by bib: I took a copy of the tsunami hymn to church today and terrified my choir into thinking we were singing it! I'll have to do penance for weeks. The author of this ghastly hymn will be punished in the afterlife. I'm so embarrassed to be an Australian.
I just e-mailed the worship team leader and another singer in our worship band, pretending I wanted us to do this one...
[eta: then I ruined the joke by sending an e-mail quickly aftewards reassuring that I was NOT making light of the tragedy but of the crappy hymn writing! And this is from somebody (me) who starts cussing like a drunken sailor whenever I hear repetitive hymns. OH SMITE MY EARS!] [ 06. November 2007, 03:43: Message edited by: duchess ]
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quote: Originally posted by Jenn R: Today we had our bible club service. So we sang 3 action songs and "all things bright and beautiful".
We even sang the club theme song 3 times. 3. And it began "what a load of rubbish". And that just about summed it up. And the worst thing - this is thhe only church service today. At least when we normally have "all age worship" (all age!! Yeah right!! some 5-7 year olds more like) there is communion in the evening, so I can recover.
We did the "what a load of rubbish" song at easter holiday club and I thought very similarly to you....
It wasnt only the rubbish song but the woman's waily voice that put me off!
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quote: Originally posted by ken: And Jesus obviously does his own washing.
Mark 9:
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[snip] And he was transfigured before them and his garments became radiant and exceedingly white, as no launderer on earth can whiten them.
That Persil moment.
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Can I just relieve my feelings by saying here just how much I hate Matt Redman's "Oh no, you never let go"? The uninitiated can hear a version similar to how it sounds in my church by clicking on You Tube .
For all I know, it sounds Ok when the culprit ... I mean songwriter ... performs it, but in my church it sounds like a wailing cat with a very annoying chorus.
If I meet Matt Redman in heaven, I'm going to kick him in the balls.
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I actually have a recording of Matt Redman performing this and it's pretty good. I was wondering what it would sound like if sung as a congregational piece. Now I know why I'd never found out.
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quote: Originally posted by Moth: Can I just relieve my feelings by saying here just how much I hate Matt Redman's "Oh no, you never let go"? The uninitiated can hear a version similar to how it sounds in my church by clicking on You Tube .
For all I know, it sounds Ok when the culprit ... I mean songwriter ... performs it, but in my church it sounds like a wailing cat with a very annoying chorus.
If I meet Matt Redman in heaven, I'm going to kick him in the balls.
There's another You Tube one with the original singer and the most godforsaken awful Powerpoint for visual accompaniment. Now you can hate it more.
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quote: Originally posted by Moth: Can I just relieve my feelings by saying here just how much I hate Matt Redman's "Oh no, you never let go"? The uninitiated can hear a version similar to how it sounds in my church by clicking on You Tube .
For all I know, it sounds Ok when the culprit ... I mean songwriter ... performs it, but in my church it sounds like a wailing cat with a very annoying chorus.
If I meet Matt Redman in heaven, I'm going to kick him in the balls.
Ahhh, a person after my good lady's heart, I see. I actually think the song is rather fine: the bit about the heart holding on would be a pretty good one, were it not for the overtones of Kate Twinset standing at the bow of Titanic, hair blowing in the draught of an industrial strength wind machine.
Bean Bag, on the other hand, can't stand the song (or, indeed, very much else by the Blessed Matthew, with the honourable exception of "Heart of Worship").
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As bad as the song is, that video is the apotheosis of bad taste in worship 'presentations'.
K.
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Like Jolly Jape, I quite liked the song - at least couldn't find anything offensive about it. The graphics, however, were a bit naff.
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People at my church never clap normally. Then suddenly, to magnify the challenge of singing Shine Jesus Shine (which isn't my favourite hymn, shall we say), the *minister* started clapping. Between the verse and chorus of SJS - 2 bars of clapping of a jaunty rhythm. And then the congregation joined in - they were clearly familiar with this practice! Shine Jesus Shine I can just about cope with. Clapping I can just about tolerate. But a special marriage of the two?!!
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quote: Originally posted by MirrorMouse: People at my church never clap normally. Then suddenly, to magnify the challenge of singing Shine Jesus Shine (which isn't my favourite hymn, shall we say), the *minister* started clapping. Between the verse and chorus of SJS - 2 bars of clapping of a jaunty rhythm. And then the congregation joined in - they were clearly familiar with this practice! Shine Jesus Shine I can just about cope with. Clapping I can just about tolerate. But a special marriage of the two?!!
We had "Shine" yesterday too and something rather strange happened say the least as I found myself "enjoying" singing this dreadful hymn. Oh dear.
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Oh - maybe it's been left dormant long enough (what are you saying Alex?).
However, I saw a "gem" when at my local St Andrews branch.. a 3-CD set entiitled "The Worship Library". Billed as containing "less-well-known" worship songs, it conatined some of Matt Redman's, Tim Hughes's etc early stuff.
MAN it reeked!
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quote: Originally posted by Gay Organ Grinder: quote: Originally posted by MirrorMouse: People at my church never clap normally. Then suddenly, to magnify the challenge of singing Shine Jesus Shine (which isn't my favourite hymn, shall we say), the *minister* started clapping. Between the verse and chorus of SJS - 2 bars of clapping of a jaunty rhythm. And then the congregation joined in - they were clearly familiar with this practice! Shine Jesus Shine I can just about cope with. Clapping I can just about tolerate. But a special marriage of the two?!!
We had "Shine" yesterday too and something rather strange happened say the least as I found myself "enjoying" singing this dreadful hymn. Oh dear.
I don't like it much but I thought it was more about the Transfguration than the Epiphany.
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Dennis the Menace
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quote: Originally posted by leo: quote: Originally posted by Gay Organ Grinder: quote: Originally posted by MirrorMouse: People at my church never clap normally. Then suddenly, to magnify the challenge of singing Shine Jesus Shine (which isn't my favourite hymn, shall we say), the *minister* started clapping. Between the verse and chorus of SJS - 2 bars of clapping of a jaunty rhythm. And then the congregation joined in - they were clearly familiar with this practice! Shine Jesus Shine I can just about cope with. Clapping I can just about tolerate. But a special marriage of the two?!!
We had "Shine" yesterday too and something rather strange happened say the least as I found myself "enjoying" singing this dreadful hymn. Oh dear.
I don't like it much but I thought it was more about the Transfguration than the Epiphany.
It was chosen by the praise leafer for the day whom I would doubt would know what Epiphany is about. Bless her as she is such an angel!!
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quote: Originally posted by Gay Organ Grinder: It was chosen by the praise leafer for the day whom I would doubt would know what Epiphany is about. Bless her as she is such an angel!!
Forgive me, but I can't help thinking that knowing "what <insert festival or season here> is about" was a bit of a fundamental qualification for a worship leader.
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Gracious rebel
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Karl - not necessarily if the church is not one that follows the liturgical year closely. I never knew what Epiphany was for many years, or celebrated it in church as a separate thing to Christmas.
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quote: Originally posted by Karl: Liberal Backslider: quote: Originally posted by Gay Organ Grinder: It was chosen by the praise leafer for the day whom I would doubt would know what Epiphany is about. Bless her as she is such an angel!!
Forgive me, but I can't help thinking that knowing "what <insert festival or season here> is about" was a bit of a fundamental qualification for a worship leader.
Sorry i should have qualified my statement by saying: the said praise leader came from another religion where the church calendar was not followed unlike our church.
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quote: Originally posted by MirrorMouse: People at my church never clap normally. Then suddenly, to magnify the challenge of singing Shine Jesus Shine (which isn't my favourite hymn, shall we say), the *minister* started clapping. Between the verse and chorus of SJS - 2 bars of clapping of a jaunty rhythm. And then the congregation joined in - they were clearly familiar with this practice! Shine Jesus Shine I can just about cope with. Clapping I can just about tolerate. But a special marriage of the two?!!
There are no words. How awful! Clapping by the minister and that, that...song. Mercy...<shudder>
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quote: Originally posted by Gay Organ Grinder: quote: Originally posted by Karl: Liberal Backslider: quote: Originally posted by Gay Organ Grinder: It was chosen by the praise leafer for the day whom I would doubt would know what Epiphany is about. Bless her as she is such an angel!!
Forgive me, but I can't help thinking that knowing "what <insert festival or season here> is about" was a bit of a fundamental qualification for a worship leader.
Sorry i should have qualified my statement by saying: the said praise leader came from another religion where the church calendar was not followed unlike our church.
Oh, I wouldn't call the non-Calendar followers a different religion. ![[Snigger]](graemlins/snigger.gif)
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quote: Originally posted by duchess: quote: Originally posted by MirrorMouse: People at my church never clap normally. Then suddenly, to magnify the challenge of singing Shine Jesus Shine (which isn't my favourite hymn, shall we say), the *minister* started clapping. Between the verse and chorus of SJS - 2 bars of clapping of a jaunty rhythm. And then the congregation joined in - they were clearly familiar with this practice! Shine Jesus Shine I can just about cope with. Clapping I can just about tolerate. But a special marriage of the two?!!
There are no words. How awful! Clapping by the minister and that, that...song. Mercy...<shudder>
Oh duchess I'm so glad you are able to feel my pain through my post and sympathise! I am still traumatised even five days later, so I need all the sympathy I can get!
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It can get worse than clapping, believe me! At the "family friendly" church in my parish, someone had the bright idea of bringing in a box of instruments (only once every few weeks, thank God) when the Sunday School came into church later on in the service. These could then be distributed in the last hymn.
I could just about stomach that to "Thank you Lord for this fine day", or "You shall go out with joy" - but a few weeks ago the dreaded instrument box appeared, and was used, to accompany "Living Lord". I nearly walked out.
This isn't "participating in worship", IMHO, it's making worship completely impossible for most people. It isn't much fun for any kid, let alone adult, who is remotely musical. I'm quite happy for the kids to make their own noise during the last hymn if they want to, but to encourage them to drown the congregation in earsplitting untuned percussion seems bizarre.
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I hated all that clapping before I lost the use of one arm, now it just alienates me and makes me feel excluded. I once went to a church where the youngsters and mums played behind glass wall meaning that they could hear and join in via loudspeakers without disrupting the sanctity of the worship. Unfortunately the people in charge of the music think that such hrrors will increase attendance despite two or three regulars having left expressly because of the noise. They of course are dismissed as out of touch and such like. The other thing which I do not understand are all these modern songs praising God which quickly turn into a shopping list of all His virtues, as if He needs reminding!
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The Tsunami and Honduras hymns remind me of most of the Youth Praise selection from the 1960s/70s. Even if people like them at the time, they date so easily. (How many miners are there in the Rhondda these days, I wonder? They're all tourist guides for the Big Pit theme park, I guess.)
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quote: Originally posted by MirrorMouse: quote: Originally posted by duchess: quote: Originally posted by MirrorMouse: People at my church never clap normally. Then suddenly, to magnify the challenge of singing Shine Jesus Shine (which isn't my favourite hymn, shall we say), the *minister* started clapping. Between the verse and chorus of SJS - 2 bars of clapping of a jaunty rhythm. And then the congregation joined in - they were clearly familiar with this practice! Shine Jesus Shine I can just about cope with. Clapping I can just about tolerate. But a special marriage of the two?!!
There are no words. How awful! Clapping by the minister and that, that...song. Mercy...<shudder>
Oh duchess I'm so glad you are able to feel my pain through my post and sympathise! I am still traumatised even five days later, so I need all the sympathy I can get!
Shout to the LORD sends me over the edge. I have to walk out of any church (if I am able). I have banned that song in my church and Shine-blah blah. I am only a singer in the Worship Band but I have my limits and I DO speak up. I am fortunate the praise songs my worship leaders enjoy having us sing are usually by people like Sovereign Grace, Chris Tomlin, Fernando Ortega etc...
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quote: Originally posted by Chorister: The Tsunami and Honduras hymns remind me of most of the Youth Praise selection from the 1960s/70s. Even if people like them at the time, they date so easily. (How many miners are there in the Rhondda these days, I wonder? They're all tourist guides for the Big Pit theme park, I guess.)
Ohhhhhh, the miner in the Rhondda, the coolie in Peking...... the family of man (boom, boom) keeps growing, the family of man (boom, boom) keeps sowing the seeds of a new life ev'ry day.
Eeek! I remember singing that at a GFS Rally in the 70s. Only we changed it to 'Family of God'. The mention of the cringeworthy 'coolie in Peking' makes me think of the Two Fat Ladies: "It's a raspberry sauce, please do not call it a coulis. A coolie is a Chinese gentleman in a triangular straw hat. And jolly good chaps they are too!"
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Max.
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quote: Originally posted by Hart: I actually have a recording of Matt Redman performing this and it's pretty good. I was wondering what it would sound like if sung as a congregational piece. Now I know why I'd never found out.
I have a few recordings of it done in a Congregational environment with Life Teen (Matt Maher leading)
I'll see if I can dig it out for you!
Max
-------------------- For the sake of His sorrowful Passion, have mercy on us and on the whole world.
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mms://67.72.88.179/LIFETEEN/xlt/2007/041707/LIFETEEN.com XLT 04-17-07 - Grace Is Not Always Gentle (high).wma
Copy this URL into Windows Media Player (File> Open URL)
"You never let go" is from 6:55 onwards!
Max
-------------------- For the sake of His sorrowful Passion, have mercy on us and on the whole world.
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Our opening hymn this afternoon was a bouncy Haagen-esque tune with the following lines:
Trübe und schwer ziehn die Wolken dahin, der Asphalt scheint so schwartz, und die grauen Nebel ziehn.
Which I translate as, "Drearily the clouds move in, the asphalt looks so black, and the gray fog drifts." I guess it's only a step away from boiling test tubes, but I never once thought I would singing about how black asphalt is.
We did made up for it in the rest of the service: Lord's Prayer versification by Luther, a hymn to the Holy Spirit by Paul Gerhardt, and a litany from Benjamin Schmolk asking to spare the land from deadly pestilence and bless masters and well as their servants.
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Amanda B. Reckondwythe
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The servants, one hopes, including those that worked all day under a broiling sun spreading the hot, steaming, smelly black asphalt.
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J Whitgift
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Unfortunately, there's been no sighting (or singing) of 'Now the green blade riseth' at Church this Eastertide. This (and singing 'O Jesus I have promised' on Sunday evening) prompted me to realise that 'Now the green blade riseth' can be sung to the tune of 'O Jesus I have promised'. This in turn means that 'Now the green blade' can be sung to the following tunes:
- The Muppets theme music, and - Match of the Day.
![[Snigger]](graemlins/snigger.gif) [ 06. May 2008, 10:41: Message edited by: J Whitgift ]
-------------------- On the issue of homosexuality the Liberals have spent their time thinking, considering and listening (in the spirit of the Windsor process), whereas Conservative Anglicans have used the time to further dig their feet in and become more intransigent.
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quote: Originally posted by J Whitgift: Unfortunately, there's been no sighting (or singing) of 'Now the green blade riseth' at Church this Eastertide. This (and singing 'O Jesus I have promised' on Sunday evening) prompted me to realise that 'Now the green blade riseth' can be sung to the tune of 'O Jesus I have promised'. This in turn means that 'Now the green blade' can be sung to the following tunes:
- The Muppets theme music, and - Match of the Day.
Well, J Whitgift, you're clearly not coming to the right church. Not many miles away from you we sang 'Now the green blade riseth' as the Gradual on both Easter Day and 2nd Sunday of Easter.
And, FWIW, while I can fit it to 'O Jesus I have promised' without too much mangling, I can't fit it to the MotD theme music in any meaningful way. The Muppets theme music won't come to mind at the moment - probably just as well!!
-------------------- Yours aye ... TonyK
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North East Quine
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I haven't read all this thread, so I hope I'm not repeating an earlier moan, but my daughter (age 12) has been taught a song "Jesus, You're my Superhero" which includes the line
"Jesus! Better than Barbie!"
Words fail me....
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