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previous page post by North East Quine a song "Jesus, You're my Superhero" which includes the line "Jesus! Better than Barbie!"

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previous page post by North East Quine a song "Jesus, You're my Superhero" which includes the line "Jesus! Better than Barbie!"

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Jesus may be better than Barbie, but does he have as many cool accessories and outfits?

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previous page post by North East Quine a song "Jesus, You're my Superhero" which includes the line "Jesus! Better than Barbie!"

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Jesus may be better than Barbie, but does he have as many cool accessories and outfits?

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Originally posted by Auntie Doris:
And does he have a boyfriend called Ken?

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Originally posted by Boopy:
I am new here but would love to share with you this treat from the old Baptist Hymn Book, as a warning against separating the subject by too many lines. 'I sing a song of the saints of God' is as you might expect about saints and trying to live up to them as good examples etc. but has as part of its second verse,

"and one was a soldier and one was a priest
and one was slain by a fierce wild beast
and there's not any reason, no not the least
why I shouldn't be one too".

Feel free to picture children in congregation deciding they'd rather not be fierce wild beasts, thanks very much.

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Originally posted by Laudate Dominum:
We’ve sung a Gloria in my parish for two or three years now which is perfectly dreadful. The chorus words, “Gloria, Gloria in excelsis Deo” are not too terrible, but the verses have mangled the official translation of this prayer. Incidentally, the Gloria was originally a chant hymn, which by definition does not have a verse-refrain structure. Just one verse after another. So, it shouldn’t have a refrain at all.
Also, the melody is horrible and rock-influenced. In fact, when it is played fast enough, it actually tempts some of the more simpleminded in the congregation to start clapping. As in, somewhat in time to the music. This is a Roman Catholic church! We don’t do that! What happened to dignity? Ok, I should stop now…

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Originally posted by Fr Weber:
I've sung several RC settings of the Gloria in excelsis which include such a refrain (usually the opening "Glory to God in the highest, and peace to his people on earth").

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Originally posted by Amanda B. Reckondwythe:

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Originally posted by Auntie Doris:
And does he have a boyfriend called Ken?

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No, but he may have had one called John.

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Wrong DH thread, sir.

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Originally posted by Alex Cockell:
Just heard one of the worst travesties in cheesy worship songs...

SJS in a Stock-Aitken-Waterman style. Had their trademark fast 16ths-on-hihat all over it... it just sounded scarily awful... especially when you wake up to it.

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Originally posted by Mama Thomas:
In a thread 32 pages long and growing, I'll bet this collection has probably been linked several times. This has to be done on purpose--a collection of the worst and crappiest of choruses and most horrible of hymns--bar none.

Trust me, if you haven't seen, you won't get very far before deciding you've had enough.

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Oh my goodness... "I believe in World War 3"? "Sin is like my stinky sox"? "Jesus died on a wooden cross/ Jesus died to save the lost/ He died for the lambs and the little fleas/ God loves me/" Are these genuine?

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You are worthy at all times to be praised by happy voices

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This line sounds like something one would sing in vacation Bible school or something. It scans badly and really wrecks it for me.

It is especially tin-eared because the words in the rest of the hymn are truly beautiful.

WTF??

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Originally posted by Hilda of Whitby:
I don't know if this is the appropriate thread ... but there is a line in 'Phos hilaron' in the evening prayer service in the 1979 BCP that just makes me go 'huh?':

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This line sounds like something one would sing in vacation Bible school or something. It scans badly and really wrecks it for me.

It is especially tin-eared because the words in the rest of the hymn are truly beautiful.

WTF??

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Originally posted by matthew_dixon:
Okay - has anyone mentioned "Here I Am To Worship" yet? That's my personal pet hate at present.

The start of the chorus...

Here I am to worship
Here I am to bow down
Here I am to say that you're my God

is okay... but when it goes on...

You're altogether lovely
Altogether worthy
Altogether wonderful to me

Why "altogether" everything? Doesn't make sense. How can someone be "altogether wonderful"? "Altogether worthy"? What of?!? As for "You're altogether lovely" - a friend of mine and fellow shipmate referred to this line once as "something I'd say to my boyfriend and not to my saviour"

"I'll neve know how much it costs to see my sin upon that cross" is similarly dreadful lyrics!

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'Altogether lovely' sounds quite a normal expression to me, out of context of church - though perhaps a bit poetic and old-fashioned. But in the song, it always makes me thinnk of Terry Pratchett's multiple-personality character Altogether Andrews ...

Another member of our worship team has a problem with the song 'Lord your name is holy'. The second verse is 'Lord your name is mighty', and you're never quite sure which verse the worship leader is going into - so she ends up singing 'Lord your name is Moly' a lot. (Personally, I think God's more like Badger if anything. )

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I don't know if this is the appropriate thread ... but there is a line in 'Phos hilaron' in the evening prayer service in the 1979 BCP that just makes me go 'huh?':

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Originally posted by Freddy R:
How about this one, sung to the tune of "There's a Tavern in the Town":

Jesus loves me, this I know
This I know
'Cause the Bible tells me so,
Tells me so -o- -o- -o-.
He's my saviour,
I -I- am his lamb.
Yes, by Jesus Christ, I am!

Sung at fraternity parties.

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Originally posted by briony:
I discovered this site a couple of years ago and drop in occasionally. However, a song we sang in church last Sunday has prompted me to register and share it all with you. It has plumbed new depths of Christian songwriting and I can't see that it's ever been mentioned on here. Having noticed in someone's earlier message that I can't post all the lyrics, here is a taster:

I will dance
I will sing
To be mad
For my King

Chorus:
And I'll become
Even more undignified than this
Some may say
It's foolishness
But I'll become
Even more undignified than this
Leave my pride
By my side

La, la, la, la, la, HEY!
La, la, la, la, la
La, la, la, la, la, HEY!
La, la, la, la, la

I'm sure you can imagine the "actions" and "dancing" that accompanied this. And we had a lot of parents from the guides, cubs etc who aren't usually in the church. Believe me, they won't be coming back after that & I'm not sure I will either. Never been so embarassed...

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Originally posted by briony:
It seems to have been written by someone called David Crowder.

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Originally posted by briony:
Aha, I do apologise. I've now found it attributed to Matt Redman, though the website I found last night definitely said "lyrics by David Crowder". Wrong! As you've probably realised I haven't yet worked out how to use the "quote" function on here! On other message boards there's normally a reply button on each message but I can't see how to do it here.

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Looks so obvious once you've had it pointed out to you! [/QB]

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Originally posted by matthew_dixon:
Okay - has anyone mentioned "Here I Am To Worship" yet? That's my personal pet hate at present.

The start of the chorus...

Here I am to worship
Here I am to bow down
Here I am to say that you're my God

is okay... but when it goes on...

You're altogether lovely
Altogether worthy
Altogether wonderful to me

Why "altogether" everything? Doesn't make sense. How can someone be "altogether wonderful"? "Altogether worthy"? What of?!? As for "You're altogether lovely" - a friend of mine and fellow shipmate referred to this line once as "something I'd say to my boyfriend and not to my saviour"

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Originally posted by Mudfrog:
The phrase 'altogether lovely is part of the description of the Lover in the Song of Songs, which of course, is a source of a number of phrases that describe Christ and the Church.

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The phrase 'altogether lovely is part of the description of the Lover in the Song of Songs, which of course, is a source of a number of phrases that describe Christ and the Church.

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But isn't that the point?

There are some big assumptions in the song writing, namely:

1. The use of Elizabethan language is appropriate for contemporary songs.

2. That S of S is an allegory of Christ and the Church.

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The phrase 'altogether lovely is part of the description of the Lover in the Song of Songs, which of course, is a source of a number of phrases that describe Christ and the Church.

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But isn't that the point?

There are some big assumptions in the song writing, namely:

1. The use of Elizabethan language is appropriate for contemporary songs.

2. That S of S is an allegory of Christ and the Church.

My guess is that both of those assumptions are up for debate.

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Originally posted by Jolly Jape:
Though "altogether" in the sense that it is used in "Here I am to worship" has never seemed to me to be anachronistic. To say that something is "altogether a good thing" would feel quite natural to me.

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True - it was more the other examples cited by Mudfrog I had in mind.

I quite like the song myself.

What I loved most was when the CD came out. Because this was his most famous song at the time it was also used as the title for the album.

Some inspired designer managed to come up with the title at the top (Here I am to worship) with the artist's name at the bottom (Tim Hughes) - priceless!

(In order to spell out the visual pun: the only words on the sleeve were Here I am to worship ... Tim Hughes )

A major faux pas and it all it needed was to reverse the order of title and artist.

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Originally posted by Gill H:
I understand 'This is the air I breathe' was written out of someone's personal trauma (loss of a child, I think?) and as such, could be very moving. But for me, most Sundays, I can't really sing 'I'm desperate for You' with any honesty. (Not that I've sung it for years now - I hoped it had gone away!)

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