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Thread: Libby Lane first woman bishop
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Jengie jon
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Originally posted by L'organist:
I too am asthmatic Boogie, and have never had a problem with incense ![[Confused]](confused.gif)
Asthma can be triggered by an allergic reaction. You can have asthma that has other triggers and not that which is specific to allergy to incense. This is especially true if you are not allergic to incense i.e. your body does not think it is a foreign body to be fought. So both of you are speaking the truth.
My sister is allergic to kiwi, but that does not mean she cannot eat peanuts! Yet the reactions by those allergic to peanuts and kiwi are much the same.
Jengie
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Curiosity killed ...
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I'm asthmatic too and love incense, but I'm, sadly, allergic to some incense; badly allergic and have a really nasty reaction, puffy eyes, very wheezy chest and struggle to breathe. The effects last several hours afterwards if I don't get out immediately. The last time I stayed in church with this incense I was still coughing the next day.
(I was allergic to the perfume one of our new tutors was using and was avoiding her as a result. Not good wheezing when talking to someone)
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Panda
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Originally posted by Oscar the Grouch:
I am glad that the first woman bishop in the C of E will not be one of the "frontrunners", but someone rather unexpected. I know absolutely nothing about her but wish her well.
I am - however - rather concerned by the way this has been done. To me, it smacks of an episcopal race to be responsible for the first woman bishop appointment, rather than a concerted effort to introduce women bishops smoothly. I've said before that I think that the pressures on the "first woman bishop" are likely to be so great that it would make more sense to appoint two or three together, to ease the burden. There is no reason why this announcement could not have been delayed for a while whilst other appointments were being lined up.
That rather assumes that Libby Lane is incapable of handling her new position without the 'backup' of a number of other women in the same position - perhaps something of an insult to her?
Really, what will these pressures be? Being a senior woman at meetings - surely nothing new to her. A few articles in the tabloids maybe, no more than other bishops have earned by operating mouths before engaging brains, some sniping on Facebook and various blogs by those who have nothing better to do. Unless you live in her see, you're really not going to have a lot to do with her, nor she with you, so let's just let her get on with the job.
I think we're only talking a matter of a month, maybe two, before another is announced. In a year's time it won't make the slightest difference. AIUI the see of Stockport has been vacant a fair time, and was overdue for an appointment. I'm also given to understand that certain men had already been interviewed, and considered not right for the post. So I'm not sure how the sense of a 'race' stands: it's hardly as if posts are being hurriedly emptied out in order that a woman can be stuffed in.
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HCH
Shipmate
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There have, of course, been female bishops before. See: this list
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Oscar the Grouch
Adopted Cascadian
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Originally posted by Panda:
That rather assumes that Libby Lane is incapable of handling her new position without the 'backup' of a number of other women in the same position - perhaps something of an insult to her?
Not at all. I said the same thing well before any names were suggested and would have made the same comment about anyone who ended up being the first woman bishop in the Church of England.
Anything she says or does will be scrutinised intensely. I know that I wouldn't want that kind of pressure. Such scrutiny was always going to happen. As far as I can see, the only way to reduce it - even marginally - would have been to have three or more names presented at the same time.
I don't know Libby Lane at all. She (and her family) may well be able to handle this easily. What I am saying is that all steps should have been taken to ensure that such an impact was lessened, if at all possible. At the moment, I don't see that.
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Barnabas Aus
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There have, of course, been female bishops before. See: this list
That list omits several important Australian appointments and elections
2012 Rev Genieve Blackwell appointed assistant bishop of Canberra-Goulburn
Rev Alison Taylor appointed assistant bishop of Brisbane
2013 Rev Dr Sarah Macneil was elected and installed 2014 as diocesan bishop of Grafton
Bishop Kay Goldsworthy elected diocesan bishop of Gippsland to be installed in 2015
Bishop Genieve Blackwell appointed assistant bishop of Melbourne on the retirement of Bishop Barbara Darling
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Gee D
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Originally posted by Oscar the Grouch:
I don't know Libby Lane at all. She (and her family) may well be able to handle this easily. What I am saying is that all steps should have been taken to ensure that such an impact was lessened, if at all possible. At the moment, I don't see that.
Is there any reason why you should see it? I'd have thought that steps like that should be taken quietly and privately, not out in public.
Thanks for the update Barnabas Aus. I had missed the appointment of + Genieve to Melbourne.
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Ethne Alba
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If Libby Lane has agreed to take the post, then she has surely considered the pitfalls as well as the joys before saying yes?
I wish her well and hurrah for the folk of Stockport and its surroundings; they've waited long enough.
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