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Horseman Bree, I throw down my gauntlet. I know you’re aware that neither my government nor my country is perfect. But guess what? Many of your US Shipmates notice imperfections too. Perhaps your government and country are perfect, though a certain ex-mayor of Toronto makes me wonder.
Here’s my challenge: you seem to board Ship with something to say at the rate of a couple of posts roughly every other day. Can you maintain that posting pattern for two full weeks – through 3/21 – without once trashing the US, its people, history, culture, politics, geography, cuisine, nicotine preferences, TV shows, educational system, fashion sense, business ethics, religious sensibilities, criminal justice activities, sexual antics, public libraries, lawn-mowing habits, hairstyles, shoe sizes, table manners, municipal architecture, highway signs, nuptial customs, pigeons, taste in buttons, maple-syrup-collecting methods, knot-tying skills, voting booth construction, scout training, fishing practices, monetary engraving, embroidery techniques, the manufacture of US nose-hair trimmers (together with anything else you despise about your southern neighbor along with, by implication, all your US Shipmates) during that brief period?
That’s it: just two weeks, with eagle-eyed Shipmates to monitor and devise an appropriate consequence should you (as seems inevitable) fail.
I don’t even ask that you give it up for Lent; Ash Wednesday’s come and gone.
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![[Overused]](graemlins/notworthy.gif)
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--"Oh bat bladders, do you have to bring common sense into this?" (Dragon, "Jane & the Dragon")
--"Oh, Peace Train, save this country!" (Yusuf/Cat Stevens, "Peace Train")
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Porridge, as GK obliquely put it, you are one boss bitch. Rock on. lady.
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Bless you, Kelly, for such a nuanced translation. ![[Biased]](wink.gif)
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Oh fuck yes.
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orfeo
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Damn. It's now inevitable that the rest of this thread is basically going to be people high-fiving Porridge.
Pigeons. I think my favourite on the list is pigeons.
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Barnabas62
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Looks like it may be Horseman's well-deserved "come-a-cropper"-lypse.
(Not sure if that crosses the pond - or even deserves to).
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Only one ex-mayor of Toronto? ![[Disappointed]](graemlins/disappointed.gif)
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I do have to give Bree some credit, though. His brand of anti-Americanism is the kind of stuff that Canadians usually say among themselves, sitting around the coffee shop congratulating themselves for being oh-so-superior to their southern neighbours.
It's lame at the best of times, but especially so when done, as it usually is, in the complete absence of Americans or anyone else likely to challenge them on it. They're not convincing anyone, because everyone already agrees that America is Very Bad and Canada is Very Special("People love the Maple Leaf around the world!!"), nor are they holding up their own presuppositions to any sort of external criticism.
But, Bree actually does play the schtick on a board with a significant American presence, thus at least allowing for the possibility that people will trash him back. Som props for that.
But yes, it's still a pretty dumb brand of nationalism(not that all nationalism isn't dumb). I had to really roll my eyes a few weeks back when Bree attributed the bad First Nations policies of the current government to the influence of American-style "Republican" values infesting Canada under Harper, when anyone with a cursory knowledge of the history knows that Canadian and British colonial governments have been shitting on aboriginals since time in memorial, with little or no help from the Americans.
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quote:
Originally posted by Porridge:
through 3/21
Can't even get basic formatting and prepositions right. The English version is "until 21/3", just FYI.
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I do confess, the couple of times I crossed northwards during my North American trip in 2013, I basically went "Oh yay, normal people!". But then it turned out that folks were pretty sane in New England and Seattle as well, so it's not like it's fair to generalise about the whole country.
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Dave W.
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quote:
Originally posted by ThunderBunk:
quote:
Originally posted by Porridge:
through 3/21
Can't even get basic formatting and prepositions right. The English version is "until 21/3", just FYI.
Don't get out much, do you?
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Not sure about all the specifics with HB. But I will note that Canadians all both hate and envy and watch with astonishment both the USA and Toronto. Frightened, amused and puzzled by it all. We are often guilty of measuring ourselves against both, at the same time pretending we don't.
As for Orfeo's comment, I haven't found that the inhabitants consider it reasonable to conflate Australians with New Zealanders, and the Welsh, Scottish, English altogether. Culture does seem an underestimated force.
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quote:
Originally posted by orfeo:
I do confess, the couple of times I crossed northwards during my North American trip in 2013, I basically went "Oh yay, normal people!". But then it turned out that folks were pretty sane in New England and Seattle as well, so it's not like it's fair to generalise about the whole country.
Having met a good number of your countrymen, I'm not sure I wish to aspire to your standards of 'normal'.
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Originally posted by ThunderBunk:
quote:
Originally posted by Porridge:
through 3/21
Can't even get basic formatting and prepositions right. The English version is "until 21/3", just FYI.
The US and much of Canada (in particular, newspapers and "long date" displays by MS programs) use MMDD formatting.
That's why WE get Pi day. ![[Smile]](smile.gif)
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Porridge
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Not to mention the fact that, where I live, "through" means including the date mentioned, whereas "until" ends at midnight on the date previous. Assuming The Horseman might not check his PMs until the 8th of March (see what I did there?), 03/08/15 through 03/21/15 yields 2 full weeks. 03/08/15 until 03/21/15 lets him off in only 13 days.
Meanwhile, as he's not yet put in an appearance, I'm glad of having included a "maintaining normal posting pattern" clause -- although Eutychus in Purg on the Ferguson thread might be about to (if he hasn't already) put a prompt halt to the whole experiment, as is his Hostly prerogative.
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If only; that's an Admin prerogative and above my pay grade.
Then again, the way this thread is going, the admins may decide that it's punishment enough, eh?
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moonlitdoor
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Thunderbunk's post is intended as a joke, it's a spoof piece of facile anti Americanism.
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ChastMastr
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Originally posted by Stetson:
I had to really roll my eyes a few weeks back when Bree attributed the bad First Nations policies of the current government to the influence of American-style "Republican" values infesting Canada under Harper, when anyone with a cursory knowledge of the history knows that Canadian and British colonial governments have been shitting on aboriginals since time in memorial, with little or no help from the Americans.
Actually, I (a US citizen) have worried in the past about a scary global right-wing shift I've perceived over the last decade or so, and wondered quite seriously if it was GW Bush's fault somehow. (Or Cheney's, etc.)
It would be so convenient to have one super-villain or Illuminati-like group to blame. ![[Frown]](frown.gif)
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no prophet's flag is set so...
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The US and much of Canada (in particular, newspapers and "long date" displays by MS programs) use MMDD formatting.
Nope. It is incorrect in Canada to use MMDD. Officially it's YYYY-MM-DD, but with the creeping Americanisation of MMDD, it creates terrible confusion, because we don't know if 04/03 (4/3) is April 03 or March 04. So I don't allow it in my office. Most sensible people do not use it. To completely end ambiguity, 04 Mar 2015 is what I use in writing, and numerically 2015.03.04 is what the computer does. I prefer dots to slashes, and with Linux anything is possible.
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Dave W.
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Originally posted by moonlitdoor:
Thunderbunk's post is intended as a joke, it's a spoof piece of facile anti Americanism.
What leads you to the conclusion that it's a spoof of facile anti-Americanism, rather than just an example of facile anti-Americanism?
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Originally posted by no prophet's flag is set so...:
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The US and much of Canada (in particular, newspapers and "long date" displays by MS programs) use MMDD formatting.
Nope. It is incorrect in Canada to use MMDD. Officially it's YYYY-MM-DD, but with the creeping Americanisation of MMDD, it creates terrible confusion, because we don't know if 04/03 (4/3) is April 03 or March 04. So I don't allow it in my office. Most sensible people do not use it. To completely end ambiguity, 04 Mar 2015 is what I use in writing, and numerically 2015.03.04 is what the computer does. I prefer dots to slashes, and with Linux anything is possible.
The Hell hosts might not enjoy this tangent (sorry guys ![[Hot and Hormonal]](icon_redface.gif) ) but here goes: how does the YYYY-MM-DD English speaking world say "04 Mar 2015"? "Four March 2015" or "Fourth of March 2015" or in some other way? Thanks.
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Stetson
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Chast wrote:
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Actually, I (a US citizen) have worried in the past about a scary global right-wing shift I've perceived over the last decade or so, and wondered quite seriously if it was GW Bush's fault somehow. (Or Cheney's, etc.)
It would be so convenient to have one super-villain or Illuminati-like group to blame.
You might be able to pin the internationalization of neo-liberal economics on the American right, but even there, Margaret Thatcher was at least as much of a precusor as Ronald Reagan.
And the treatment of First Nations(ie. natives, aboriginals etc) in Canada, at least since 1867: no way no how is that the fault of anyone but Canadians.
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Twilight
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quote:
Originally posted by Porridge:
Here’s my challenge: you seem to board Ship with something to say at the rate of a couple of posts roughly every other day. Can you maintain that posting pattern for two full weeks – through 3/21 – without once trashing the US, its people, history, culture, politics, geography, cuisine, nicotine preferences, TV shows, educational system, fashion sense, business ethics, religious sensibilities, criminal justice activities, sexual antics, public libraries, lawn-mowing habits, hairstyles, shoe sizes, table manners, municipal architecture, highway signs, nuptial customs, pigeons, taste in buttons, maple-syrup-collecting methods, knot-tying skills, voting booth construction, scout training, fishing practices, monetary engraving, embroidery techniques, the manufacture of US nose-hair trimmers (together with anything else you despise about your southern neighbor along with, by implication, all your US Shipmates) during that brief period?
What about how fat we are? It will ruin my whole stereotype of people who stereotype Americans if he doesn't say anything about how fat we are?
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Oh good, somebody called that self-absorbed windbag to Hell.
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no prophet's flag is set so...
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Originally posted by Lyda*Rose:
The Hell hosts might not enjoy this tangent (sorry guys ) but here goes: how does the YYYY-MM-DD English speaking world say "04 Mar 2015"? "Four March 2015" or "Fourth of March 2015" or in some other way? Thanks.
I say "oh-four march twenty fifteen", though it's also common to say 2015 as two fifteen here. If it's just casual conversation, we'd say "on the 4th" or "March 4th". Sort of like saying $4 as four dollars and not needing it written 4$, though that might be said as "two loonies". I've heard Newfoundlanders say "four of March month".
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Palimpsest
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Originally posted by orfeo:
I do confess, the couple of times I crossed northwards during my North American trip in 2013, I basically went "Oh yay, normal people!". But then it turned out that folks were pretty sane in New England and Seattle as well, so it's not like it's fair to generalise about the whole country.
You just were using the wrong map
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Porridge
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quote:
Originally posted by Twilight:
What about how fat we are? It will ruin my whole stereotype of people who stereotype Americans if he doesn't say anything about how fat we are?
Dang, Twilight, you got me.
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Stetson
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quote:
Originally posted by Palimpsest:
quote:
Originally posted by orfeo:
I do confess, the couple of times I crossed northwards during my North American trip in 2013, I basically went "Oh yay, normal people!". But then it turned out that folks were pretty sane in New England and Seattle as well, so it's not like it's fair to generalise about the whole country.
You just were using the wrong map
Assuming that Canada is meant to symbolize liberalism on that map, then, at least according to this real-life map, there is at least one state, Michigan, that should be classified as Jesusland.
Also, one American state, Massachusetts, beat sevan provinces, two territories, and the Canadian federal government in recognizing same-sex marriage.
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Kelly Alves
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quote:
Originally posted by Dave W.:
quote:
Originally posted by moonlitdoor:
Thunderbunk's post is intended as a joke, it's a spoof piece of facile anti Americanism.
What leads you to the conclusion that it's a spoof of facile anti-Americanism, rather than just an example of facile anti-Americanism?
You just don't understand British humour, DAVE.
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Palimpsest
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If you want details by state this Wikipedia map has the state breakdowns;
Jesusland
Massachusetts is not part of JesusLand by anyone's definition.
Same Sex marriage legality is only a rough guide since a number of religious states have had it imposed by federal or state judges.
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Originally posted by Stetson:
...anyone with a cursory knowledge of the history knows that Canadian and British colonial governments have been shitting on aboriginals since time in memorial, with little or no help from the Americans.
Yes, but we British are supposed to be jackbooted imperialist bastards. Unlike you lot*, we didn't mistreat indigenous people while all the time wailing about how fond of liberty we were. Funny, too, how many Indians (as they were then called) and black people crossed the border north in the C19 to get better treatment than was available in the Land of the Free, eh?
*Who IIRC declared UDI specifically, in part, so that you could be free from pesky interference with your God-given right to duff up the people who were in the way of your expansion (cough) Proclamation Line (cough).
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moonlitdoor
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posted by Dave W
What leads you to the conclusion that it's a spoof of facile anti-Americanism, rather than just an example of facile anti-Americanism?
I guess I was wrong to say it as though I could be certain, I should have said 'Surely it's meant as a joke'. The reason was just that I think the vast majority of British people know how Americans write the date and I've never heard anyone comment adversely on it. There are quite a few topics on which I've heard British people be bitchy about Americans, but that's not one of them.
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Originally posted by moonlitdoor:
quote:
posted by Dave W
What leads you to the conclusion that it's a spoof of facile anti-Americanism, rather than just an example of facile anti-Americanism?
I guess I was wrong to say it as though I could be certain, I should have said 'Surely it's meant as a joke'. The reason was just that I think the vast majority of British people know how Americans write the date and I've never heard anyone comment adversely on it. There are quite a few topics on which I've heard British people be bitchy about Americans, but that's not one of them.
moonlitdoor is quite right. The comment was made in a general spirit of sarcasm. But also because we couldn't have total agreement on a Hell thread; the world was in imminent danger of imploding.
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Palimpsest
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My mistake. I meant to say Massachusetts is part of the United States of Canada, not Jesus Land by anyone's definition. States don't come much bluer.
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quote:
Originally posted by no prophet's flag is set so...:
It is incorrect in Canada to use MMDD. Officially it's YYYY-MM-DD,
I wasn't actually aware that anyone used the ISO8601 international standard for representation of dates and times.
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Sober Preacher's Kid
Presbymethegationalist
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Originally posted by Stetson:
quote:
Originally posted by Palimpsest:
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Originally posted by orfeo:
I do confess, the couple of times I crossed northwards during my North American trip in 2013, I basically went "Oh yay, normal people!". But then it turned out that folks were pretty sane in New England and Seattle as well, so it's not like it's fair to generalise about the whole country.
You just were using the wrong map
Assuming that Canada is meant to symbolize liberalism on that map, then, at least according to this real-life map, there is at least one state, Michigan, that should be classified as Jesusland.
Also, one American state, Massachusetts, beat sevan provinces, two territories, and the Canadian federal government in recognizing same-sex marriage.
Idiot. The court cases were all based on the same Federal Law, they just didn't reach the Supreme Court before Parliament made the issue moot. Read your own f***ing constitution.
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Oh Fuck. Am I going to have to read shit about parliamentarianism vs. federalism? Please tell me I don't have to be subjected to the minutiae of the Canadian legal system from armchair lawyers. Please. Oh Please. We just ran off Byron a week or two ago. I need a break.
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Palimpsest
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Massachussetts Same Sex Marriage ruling was made in Massachusetts Supreme court as an interpretation of the Massachusetts Constitution, not the Federal Constitution.
I do agree many of the other state rulings were driven by Federal rulings and not the sentiments of the citizens in various states such as Utah. That's why most of the rulings are on appeal to the Supreme Court.
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orfeo
Ship's Musical Counterpoint
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I'm aware of "Jesusland".
I'm also very aware of the legal history of same-sex marriage and really don't want to read it here just now. Who the blazes thought that same-sex marriage opposition was the sole criterion for Jesusland, anyway.
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RooK
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Originally posted by Alan Cresswell:I wasn't actually aware that anyone used the ISO8601 international standard for representation of dates and times.
[raises hand]
Actually, I even force the Ship to cough out YYYY-MM-DD.
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mousethief
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Originally posted by RooK:
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Originally posted by Alan Cresswell:I wasn't actually aware that anyone used the ISO8601 international standard for representation of dates and times.
[raises hand]
Actually, I even force the Ship to cough out YYYY-MM-DD.
I use this as a prefix to computer files that are time-sensitive, or of which I make multiple successive copies. Although I usually leave out the second comma, I include it in photographs.
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Ariston
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Any definition of Jesusland that leaves out Oklahoma but includes Michigan is fucked up. Not saying Michigan is Godforsaken, before churchgeek channels the power of the Holy Spirit of Detroit against me, just that it's not exactly the buckle of the Bible Belt.
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Stetson
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Originally posted by Albertus:
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...anyone with a cursory knowledge of the history knows that Canadian and British colonial governments have been shitting on aboriginals since time in memorial, with little or no help from the Americans.
Yes, but we British are supposed to be jackbooted imperialist bastards. Unlike you lot*, we didn't mistreat indigenous people while all the time wailing about how fond of liberty we were. Funny, too, how many Indians (as they were then called) and black people crossed the border north in the C19 to get better treatment than was available in the Land of the Free, eh?
*Who IIRC declared UDI specifically, in part, so that you could be free from pesky interference with your God-given right to duff up the people who were in the way of your expansion (cough) Proclamation Line (cough).
My lot was talking about liberty and declaring UDI? I'm Canadian.
In any case, I never said that Canada was worse than the USA in terms of human-rights, just that the human-rights abuses that we do have are not the fault of Americans.
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Stetson
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Albertus wrote:
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Funny, too, how many Indians (as they were then called) and black people crossed the border north in the C19 to get better treatment than was available in the Land of the Free, eh?
Wasn't it in Liverpool a few years back where some do-gooders decided to re-name all the streets that had been originally named after slave-traders, and they ended up having to re-name most of the streets in town?
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Snags
Utterly socially unrealistic
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Originally posted by Alan Cresswell:
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Originally posted by no prophet's flag is set so...:
It is incorrect in Canada to use MMDD. Officially it's YYYY-MM-DD,
I wasn't actually aware that anyone used the ISO8601 international standard for representation of dates and times.
I do, almost everywhere. And have been imposing^H^H^H^H^H^H^Hencouraging its use across client sites, with some success.
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Snags
Utterly socially unrealistic
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Originally posted by Stetson:
Albertus wrote:
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Funny, too, how many Indians (as they were then called) and black people crossed the border north in the C19 to get better treatment than was available in the Land of the Free, eh?
Wasn't it in Liverpool a few years back where some do-gooders decided to re-name all the streets that had been originally named after slave-traders, and they ended up having to re-name most of the streets in town?
Most Brits don't really view Liverpool as part of the UK. It's more an enclave of whining front bottoms with acute victimhood syndrome, deeply entrenched inverted snobbery, a perverse sense of entitlement, and an over-inflated understanding of just how funny they are(n't).
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orfeo
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And the Beatles. Don't forget the Beatles.
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Stetson
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And the Beatles. Don't forget the Beatles.
As I recall, the noble campaign to rechristen all the streets in Liverpool met its match when someone pointed out that Captain Penny was a slave trader. So after a lot of anguished soul-searching they made an exception. 'Cuz like, tourism and all.
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Albertus
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Oh sure, you can't disentangle the history of most of our western ports from the slave trade. Of course once we did abolish the trade we put a lot of work into repressing it. Bit slow in abolishing slavery in the empire (though we abolished it, or rather ruled that it could not exist, in England in the 1770s) but still, remarkable that the 'sweet land of liberty' below the 49th parallel only got round finally to abolishing it after the despotic and generally boo-hiss Russian Empire had abolished its local equivalent.
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