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North East Quine
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What is the career trajectory for a shock-jock? ISTM that she has to keep trying to ramp up the offensiveness of what she says, in order to keep attracting attention. But for how long is that viable? Off the top of my head, she's been offensive about fat people, breast-feeding mothers, the Welsh, the name "Hannah", Scottish people, Muslims, elderly people with dementia, people who give their children "chav" names, people with depression, people with red hair, the list goes on. At some point she must run out of subjects.
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Tubbs
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Response to Tubbs.
Enough people do think them, though. Combined with the number of people who enjoy the controversial even if they do not completely agree, and it is enough to sell that ink on loo paper rubbish.
The thought process is usually, "Thank God that's happening somewhere else ... Couldn't they just pop them back on some ships and drop them back to where they came from ... I'm sure it'll work out fine ..."
I'm not entirely convinced that sending gunships and not caring completely are common responses. Hopkins is just taking the usual and maganifying it a thousand fold to create shock value / maximum publicity.
And EM, I can see a difference between this and Clarkson. Before Clarkson lost it competely, he would say controversal things every so often, but he did occassionally come out with more sensible stuff. Hopkins does a Clarkson most days. Sensible stuff ... nah!
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First Dog On the Moon provides good comment on the lack of compassion shown by Australia's PM "I suppose we must grieve for the lost but..."
It appears that the odious Hopkins isn't the only person using other people's tragedy (and it's a tragedy that the International Organisation for Migration says could claim 30,000 people's lives this year) to try in some sort of perverse way to boost their own popularity.
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We also have this twat.But it's alright, because he was 'just joking'.
Yeah, I'm sure the parents of drowned children can take a joke like the next person and think you're fucking hilarious mate.
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Alan Cresswell
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As though my opinion of UKIP couldn't sink any lower ...
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Happy to assist.
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Alan Cresswell
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Not much assistance. UKIP seem to be perfectly capable of making themselves even more unelectable without help.
It's a real shame really.
How are we supposed to make them look bad when they do it so well themselves?
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IngoB
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Take a look at the graphs here. Germany has about four times as many asylum applicants as the UK, and hosts more than four times as many as the UK in the end. France still has about twice the numbers of the UK. Sweden is close to France in total numbers, and hence obviously very impressive in a "per capita" or "per GDP" sense.
How about a discussion how the UK could draw level with France at least, never mind Germany or Sweden? Otherwise all those humanitarian protestations concerning Ms Hopkins seems rather ... theoretical.
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North East Quine
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Humza Yousaf, Scotland's Minister for Europe and International Development, has been photographed holding a sign which says "I welcome refugees"
Scotland only has 3,300 sylum seekers, (10% of the British total). We could take more. There are programmes in place to help them.
Aberdeen City Council used to have a cafe in which all the workers were unpaid asylum seekers (legislation prohibits them from being paid) Coffee was 50p a cup, and the idea was that you tipped generously! By the time their paperwork was sorted, they had already started the process of integration, with a job reference from their "voluntary" work.
Unfortunately, it turned out that this was also against current legislation, but it was good while it lasted.
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Originally posted by IngoB:
Take a look at the graphs here. Germany has about four times as many asylum applicants as the UK, and hosts more than four times as many as the UK in the end. France still has about twice the numbers of the UK. Sweden is close to France in total numbers, and hence obviously very impressive in a "per capita" or "per GDP" sense.
How about a discussion how the UK could draw level with France at least, never mind Germany or Sweden? Otherwise all those humanitarian protestations concerning Ms Hopkins seems rather ... theoretical.
That's never going to fly, in the mind of these idiots you continentals are closers to the problem, so have more responsibility for it. And if you try to make us, we'll just lift the drawbridge, so naff off.
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Originally posted by IngoB:
How about a discussion how the UK could draw level with France at least, never mind Germany or Sweden? Otherwise all those humanitarian protestations concerning Ms Hopkins seems rather ... theoretical.
I don't think the average person is aware of the real numbers. So a conversation might enlighten, even though I'm skeptical that it would change anything.
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It's only three University places, but imagine if every University did this.
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Originally posted by North East Quine:
It's only three University places, but imagine if every University did this.
I'd imagine there would be a massive backlash if all universities did this.
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Originally posted by Matt Black:
We also have this twat.But it's alright, because he was 'just joking'.
Yeah, I'm sure the parents of drowned children can take a joke like the next person and think you're fucking hilarious mate.
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At my local hustings last night, the UKIP candidate was the only one who said that the Royal Navy ought to be involved in picking these migrants out of the sea. Everything else he said that evening was laughable, which may explain why it stuck in my mind, but I thought it was an interesting point.
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Alan Cresswell
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As far as who in the UK is capable of carrying out rescues at sea, the Navy is top of the list. Clearly, any UK involvement in search and rescue operations in the Med has to include the Navy. Most search and rescue operations around the UK coast involve the navy already, and that's in a situation where there are civilian lifeboats and coastguards.
That's a no-brainer, which is possibly how the UKIP candidate managed to understand it.
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Alan Cresswell
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Originally posted by mr cheesy:
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Originally posted by North East Quine:
It's only three University places, but imagine if every University did this.
I'd imagine there would be a massive backlash if all universities did this.
Why? Because people worry that their precious little Johnny would have to sit in lectures next to some foreigner?
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Anglican't
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Originally posted by Alan Cresswell:
As far as who in the UK is capable of carrying out rescues at sea, the Navy is top of the list. Clearly, any UK involvement in search and rescue operations in the Med has to include the Navy. Most search and rescue operations around the UK coast involve the navy already, and that's in a situation where there are civilian lifeboats and coastguards.
That's a no-brainer, which is possibly how the UKIP candidate managed to understand it.
Sorry, to be clear, what he was saying was that Britain ought to be actively involved, suggesting that we aren't at the moment and that that is wrong.
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Alan Cresswell
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Well, I suppose like the proverbial broken clock that shows the right time twice a day, even UKIP candidates say something that's right once in a while. (Though I suspect Katie Hopkins is like the clock which the hands have fallen off).
Of course the UK should be involved. We're a Christian country (paging Steve Langton, there's a another post here for you to bang on about Constantinianism, paging Steve Langton), we're supposed to be showing compassion to those in need. Of course, that involvement should extend far beyond fishing people out of the water. It needs to include a welcome in this country - a place to stay, the chance to work and contribute to the nation that has given them refuge. It needs to include doing whatever we can to ease tensions, conflicts and persecution around the world such that the number of people seeking refuge overseas is reduced. And, it needs to address how refugees get from their home to a place of refuge, we need to work at removing the criminal gangs making profit from human misery without concern for human life from the situation.
Which needs a major policy discussion, rather than the soundbites of politicians seeking votes. Or the vicious bile of the likes of Katie Hopkins.
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Originally posted by North East Quine:
Aberdeen City Council used to have a cafe in which all the workers were unpaid asylum seekers (legislation prohibits them from being paid)
Which is silly. If someone is legally present in the country (even if only on a temporary basis while his claim for asylum is decided), he should be able to work.
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Alan Cresswell
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It's silly, but whoever claimed government policy would always be logical? It's also quite common. When Flausa moved over she was on a six-month fiance visa, it allowed here to live in the UK but not to work or claim benefits.
I think it's part of a general fear of Schrodingers Immigrants - those who are simultaneously idle layabouts scrounging off our welfare state and stealing our jobs.
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Originally posted by Alan Cresswell:
I think it's part of a general fear of Schrodingers Immigrants - those who are simultaneously idle layabouts scrounging off our welfare state and stealing our jobs.
To the quotes file.
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Originally posted by Alan Cresswell:
Why? Because people worry that their precious little Johnny would have to sit in lectures next to some foreigner?
Because Johnny is racking up debt sitting in lectures to be qualified for jobs that don't exist which will mean he'll probably get some filing job at just above the minimum for paying the student debt off, will be unable to save for a house deposit or pension, will crash and move back home with his parents until he is 40 or his parents die of exhaustion, whichever happens first.
Meanwhile, these layabout foreigners continually get the perks without paying anything back.
Yabber yabber yabber.
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Alan Cresswell
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Ah, but you forget that the link was to a story about a Scottish university. Now, try again.
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Quite. But then North East Quine talked about 'all universities', I was assuming he/she was referring to the possibility of other universities outside of Scotland participating in this programme.
And, for the avoidance of doubt, I don't believe in this nonsense, but you asked why. This is why.
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Alan Cresswell
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Yes, I know tuition fees is a nonsense all sensible people don't believe in.
On that point though, I'm not sure why an asylum seeker shouldn't be able to obtain a student loan and attend university on the same basis as anyone else. It would require the student to be allowed to work on graduation, but if they can get a good degree and on that basis a job that allows the loan to be repaid good for them.
It's the not being allowed to work, study or otherwise contribute to the society that is giving them sanctuary that's the really daft thing.
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mr cheesy
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The whole thing is a nonsense. I'm not even going to start unravelling all the layers of shite, but the fact is that a large proportion of the population seem to think that they're hard-dun-buy and that it is all the fault of those damn foreigners.
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Originally posted by mr cheesy:
The whole thing is a nonsense. I'm not even going to start unravelling all the layers of shite, but the fact is that a large proportion of the population seem to think that they're hard-dun-buy and that it is all the fault of those damn foreigners.
Worse still, politicians of every hue either exploit this ignorance or do nothing to expose it as such.
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Way back in the 80s, the students at my University supported a black South African student. IIRC, when we picked up our grant cheques, we donated, I think £10, so £30 per student per year. It was very well supported.
The days of grant cheques are long gone, as, happily, are the days of boycotting South African wine and singing Freeee Nelson Mandela, but IME student idealism lives on.
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Alan Cresswell
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Student idealism lives on. As does the tension created between idealistic students and their parents - especially as more parents provide financial support for their children to go through university. "What do you mean you're going to march to demand the government give more money, more of my taxes, to someone you don't know on the other side of the world? I'm paying through the nose for you to go to university, you should be grateful and spend your time studying."
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HMG has announced that HMS Bulwark is at the disposal of the UNHCR for work in the med helping with migrant boats.
Ed Miliband has contributed to the debate by saying it (the crisis with seagoing refugees) is partly down to David Cameron ![[Mad]](angryfire.gif)
There is a humanitarian crisis here and that little Gobshite decides it is the ideal vehicle for some party-political name-calling.
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Originally posted by L'organist:
HMG has announced that HMS Bulwark is at the disposal of the UNHCR for work in the med helping with migrant boats.
Ed Miliband has contributed to the debate by saying it (the crisis with seagoing refugees) is partly down to David Cameron
There is a humanitarian crisis here and that little Gobshite decides it is the ideal vehicle for some party-political name-calling.
Oh, FFS, what do you expect politicians to do? Hello Brian, Hello Sue, on the one hand, in a very real sense... It's not as if Tory comments about Miliband have been noted for their bi-partisan and generous spirit, is it?
The thing is that in the Commons debate on Libya, when military action was voted on Miliband called it imperative to rebuild Libya after the civil war. Cameron decided that that was a bit boring and didn't bother. He also was instrumental in ending search and rescue in the Med. Outcome: lots of dead people.
Miliband, bless his fur and whiskers, takes the line that we ought not to invade or bomb other countries unless we have some clear idea how we are going to sort out the aftermath. I'm not actually sure why this is considered a daring and controversial position, but apparently it is. Presumably his detractors will also demand the resignation of the Shadow Secretary of State for Transport, when he has the temerity to suggest looking both ways before crossing the road.
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Originally posted by L'organist:
HMG has announced that HMS Bulwark is at the disposal of the UNHCR for work in the med helping with migrant boats.
Ed Miliband has contributed to the debate by saying it (the crisis with seagoing refugees) is partly down to David Cameron
There is a humanitarian crisis here and that little Gobshite decides it is the ideal vehicle for some party-political name-calling.
That's because it was. Cameron came back and touted the end of the EU's sea rescue programme for migrant / refugee ships as one of his success as money was saved. You can't really complain when it's pointed out that it's a massive failure when judged on other criteria. Like human decency.
Cameron always comes over as someone who's got the PM job because he could but isn't actually having that much fun now he's doing it. (Similar to Brown. Blair, on the other hand, always looked like he was having a whale of a time).
For Libya the Tories can cite Iraq and Afganistan for Labour. As both those wars haven't caused any local problems at all. ![[Roll Eyes]](rolleyes.gif)
I'm astonished that you haven't managed to work in the lack of lunch served by the BBC into this discussion as well.
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Given that we helped cause the problem (assisting in the toppling of a nasty government in Libya resulting in there now being no government in Libya), there is surely at least a smidgeon of moral imperative in our helping to sort out the presently rather ghastly consequences (same in Iraq IMO, but let's not go there - there's a Purg thread devoted to that already).
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But if Libya had a stable government, capable of securing all its borders, I'm sure desperate Syrians, Somalis and Eritreans would find another point of departure. It is not Libyans who are in the boats.
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Reverting to earlier posts, I strongly protest. I am epileptic. I have been on anti-convulsants for 40 years and it has not turned me into a Gadarene swine.
It may seem to be thoughtful and caring to suggest that somebody is obnoxious because she is epileptic but it is an attitude that stops me and my fellow epileptics from acknowledging our condition. It is also inaccurate and infuriating!
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Reverting to earlier posts, I strongly protest. I am epileptic. I have been on anti-convulsants for 40 years and it has not turned me into a Gadarene swine.
It may seem to be thoughtful and caring to suggest that somebody is obnoxious because she is epileptic but it is an attitude that stops me and my fellow epileptics from acknowledging our condition. It is also inaccurate and infuriating!
I wasn't suggesting that Hopkins was obnoxious because she was epileptic. I was suggesting that her particular mental landscape might be ascribed to side-effects of her anticonvulsants - which are well-documented and while rare, severe.
My own brush with such drugs (which I had for a bout of labyrinthitis, and will never ever take again) informs my suggestion. If your anticonvulsants work well for you, then excellent. Hopkins may not be so lucky.
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On The Last Leg this week, they had Piers Morgan on, and it was suggested that he should be shut in a room with Katie Hopkins. He was appalled at the prospect.
Which, given that he is another vile, obnoxious pile of shit, for him to find someone obnoxious says something.
I reckon they should be, and told that every word would be broadcast. Then lock the door and ignore them. While they thought they were being listened to, they would continue for months. If we just leave them, they would eventually starve to death, and probably kill each other.
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When we were discussing her work one day, my friend the genocide scholar told me about the pyramid of hate.
I usually ignore KH's trolling, but the dehumanising tone of her words this time was troubling. I fear that her discourse is an enabler for others. As I understand it, hate speech can (if not challenged) go on to create the social/cultural/political conditions for more active discrimination.
It properly gives me the heebie jeebies.
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Originally posted by Schroedinger's cat:
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Originally posted by Albertus:
Just one question, to myself as well as others: why are we all paying this absurd person the compliment of discussing her?
Because her opinions have been published in a national newspaper. When this can be presented as a valid opinion, in a big-selling paper, something has to be said.
On principle, I would agree with ignoring her. Unfortunately, the ignoring attitude does not seem to work any more - there are always people who will agree, and so the disagreement with her needs to be expressed.
Is she worth it? Not really. I let one rip the other day, after meals of beans and sprouts, and it made a whole lot more convincing sense than Hopkins.
Till now I thought, don't feed, having concluded on one hearing that she's about as worthy of attention as a used Kleenex. But this latest is more than a new level of ignorant nastiness. It is actually dangerous.
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When we were discussing her work one day, my friend the genocide scholar told me about the pyramid of hate.
I hadn't come across the pyramid of hate before, but found it helpful; if I was still teaching I would use it in the classroom. ISTM one good thing that came out of Nazism was the recognition of how terrible prejudice can be if it is allowed to go unchallenged. The fact that the UN Declaration on Human Rights was articulated only a few years after the end of WW2 has always struck me as significant.
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This is apparently what she wrote this week on the subject.
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The former Celebrity Big Brother star used her column in the newspaper today to address her previous remarks, saying it had been a "cautionary tale".
She said: "I am reminded of the power of the pen. One should be brave enough to speak out - but aware of the dangers which lurk in the depths of our vocabulary.
"No one wants to see images of children drowned at sea, no matter what their journey or their destination. The next time you are thinking of clicking on a petition, don't be angry about words.
"Accept our opinions differ. Channel your outrage at the regimes causing people to flee. And be part of the solution."
I haven't found it in the original place, but this part was reproduced in many places.
She then returned to slagging off the people who need to use food banks.
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So she doesn't even have the courage of her convictions (if any).
It's not about the migrants, but Lucy Hawking did a very good piece in the Grauniad on Hopkins' remarks about autism: here.
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Katie H was in fine form nearly 2 years ago - the irony in this discussion was massive (she doesn't like children who are called after placenames but has a daughter called India - which isn't a place apparently), and it was also clear that Katie didn't give a flying whatsit about the controversy.
Part of me admires her for her blatant disregard of decency - but that's the wimpy part of me.
And then the epilepsy - well as a fellow epileptic I have a perverse degree of sympathy for her. Who knows where the problem is in the effect on the brain - whether it is the drugs or the condition. I spoke about this with my consultant not so long ago after months of feeling suicidal day after day - you know the sort of wondering how to top myself 3 times before breakfast. It was simply a reaction to an adjustment on the meds. They impact the emotions, mine are used on bipolar people and after 35 years on them, I do wonder about cognitive development and lack thereof. And difficulties with emotional connection or unstable emotions. And who knows what is me or the drugs. The ship was enormously helpful to me at one time in my life with the trouble I had with the meds.
But, it's not so long ago that I and Katie H would have been locked up and given electric shock treatment. And she should be well aware of that. She needs more / different medication - maybe a tolerant pill or a compassionate pill or a pill to make her shut her gobshite mouth.
She complained that dementia patients are bed-blockers, but with her epilepsy, she's been hospitalised numerous times as she always dislocates her arms. Another irony, dear Katie.
Who is her publicist? She's upped her ante in the last few months. Me, I'm voting labour.
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I had a horrible thought this afternoon. The comment columns beneath articles by or about KH could be used to identify people who could be recruited to a group where a lack of empathy was a positive advantage.
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I was thinking that KH sounded like America's Ann Coulter. So I did a search, and found articles on that:
UK Version Of Ann Coulter Trolls Muslims With Ramadan Cake (FrontPageMag).
From "Europe Can’t Avoid Immigration" (The American Conservative):
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If Ann Coulter had neither a law degree nor some fear of being parked permanently beyond the pale of respectable discourse, she might write like Katie Hopkins. The latter, a British columnist for the Murdoch tabloid The Sun is now in heavy soup for penning a scabrous column about African migrants, which by chance happened to be published a few days before a large boat of such migrants sunk in the Mediterranean, drowning at least 700.
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Originally posted by Penny S:
I had a horrible thought this afternoon. The comment columns beneath articles by or about KH could be used to identify people who could be recruited to a group where a lack of empathy was a positive advantage.
I find it very frightening that there are such groups, and I'm not sure they should be encouraged.
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Originally posted by Karl: Liberal Backslider:
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Originally posted by Penny S:
I had a horrible thought this afternoon. The comment columns beneath articles by or about KH could be used to identify people who could be recruited to a group where a lack of empathy was a positive advantage.
I find it very frightening that there are such groups, and I'm not sure they should be encouraged.
I'm not too worried. Most of them will be too idle and stupid to be a danger even to themselves. The few of them who are hard-working and stupid are probably involved in some such activity already, and regard Katie Hopkins as a dilletante (or would if they had a clue what a dilletante was).
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Apparently a schoolboy has just asked Nick Clegg if he can have Katie Hopkins killed or arrested.
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Originally posted by Penny S:
This is apparently what she wrote this week on the subject.
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The former Celebrity Big Brother star used her column in the newspaper today to address her previous remarks, saying it had been a "cautionary tale".
She said: "I am reminded of the power of the pen. One should be brave enough to speak out - but aware of the dangers which lurk in the depths of our vocabulary.
"No one wants to see images of children drowned at sea, no matter what their journey or their destination. The next time you are thinking of clicking on a petition, don't be angry about words.
"Accept our opinions differ. Channel your outrage at the regimes causing people to flee. And be part of the solution."
I haven't found it in the original place, but this part was reproduced in many places.
She then returned to slagging off the people who need to use food banks.
Unfortunately, Kate love, that's not what you said and that's not what most people understood what you said ... Rough translation, my editor and I have had a bit of a talking too and been told to reign it in for a bit. Or until the fuss dies down. Which ever comes first.
Meanwhile, Richard Littlejohn has compared Labour winning the election to inviting Jimmy Saville to baby sit. Which is ... classy. Good to know the DM is so respectful of a huge propoprtion of the country.
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