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Source: (consider it) Thread: The Germanwings disaster and the (inexcusable) modern desire to go out with a bang
Barnabas62
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quote:
Originally posted by luvanddaisies:
It's not a site I've ever been aware of before, it's a link from a link from a link found in idle wandering - perhaps I should have added a caveat about not being sure of the provenance. The article doesn't seem beyond plausible though - and it is, if nothing else, a reminder that the investigation has not reported its findings, yet the media has been reporting as though it has.

Check out the Quantum Future Group. which seems to sponsor Signs of the Times (sott website).

YMMV but I'd say "not to be trusted" myself.

[ 02. April 2015, 11:49: Message edited by: Barnabas62 ]

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Golden Key
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Thanks for the link, Barnabas.

QFG does seem to be pretty out there, at least the non-quantum stuff. I don't know enough about quantum theory to evaluate that.

But that particular article about the flight seems more or less on a normal spectrum of thought. The author seems mainly to be saying:

--We don't have much info from the investigators yet.

--The mainstream media is jumping the gun, exaggerating, and possibly making things up.

--Some experienced pilots have trouble with the story from the mainstream media, especially pilot Gerard Arnoux.

--The mainstream story must be hell for the co-pilot's family--unnecessarily, because it might not be true.

--Supposedly, there are eyewitness reports of things going wrong before the crash--e.g., smoke and explosion--and the fuselage reportedly fell separately. Which doesn't fit the "crazy co-pilot with a death wish" scenario.

I don't know if any of it is true; but it doesn't seem wildly untrue, and AFAICS doesn't draw from QFG ideology.

FWIW.

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quote:
Originally posted by Golden Key:
--Supposedly, there are eyewitness reports of things going wrong before the crash--e.g., smoke and explosion--and the fuselage reportedly fell separately. Which doesn't fit the "crazy co-pilot with a death wish" scenario.

I don't know if any of it is true; but it doesn't seem wildly untrue, and AFAICS doesn't draw from QFG ideology.

I haven't seen a single first-hand "eyewitness report".

Any "expert" who speculates in the media about the media is probably not worth their salt.

To my certain knowledge, the Daily Mail has quoted, in "news articles", "pilot sources" that are actually posts on a pilots' forum on which I am a registered member with a posting history (you don't need to be a pilot to join!).

The Flight Data Recorder has apparently just been found, and if it's at all usable I'm sure that will reveal more, in due time.

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lilBuddha
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FFS, people. Don't need "eyewitness" accounts or dodgy websites.
The cockpit recording, which official sources aren't disputing, supports the prosecutor's narrative.
As does this:
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Dusseldorf, Germany (CNN)Analysis of a tablet device belonging to Germanwings Flight 9525 co-pilot Andreas Lubitz shows he researched methods of suicide on the Internet in the days leading up to the crash, the public prosecutor's office in Dusseldorf, Germany, said Thursday.

Prosecutor Christoph Kumpa said that on one day, Lubitz also "searched for several minutes with search terms relating to cockpit doors and their security measures."

You may call it a kangaroo if you wish, but we've seen the walk and heard the quack.

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luvanddaisies

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I was posting while procrastinating this morning - having looked more around that website, and looked at the link above, it looks like it's probably not really worth the effort.
Apologies.

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quote:
Originally posted by Eutychus:
The Flight Data Recorder has apparently just been found, and if it's at all usable I'm sure that will reveal more, in due time.

According to the BBC, it shows that he not only deliberately sent the plane down, but sped it up on the way.

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quote:
Originally posted by Marvin the Martian:
quote:
Originally posted by Eutychus:
The Flight Data Recorder has apparently just been found, and if it's at all usable I'm sure that will reveal more, in due time.

According to the BBC, it shows that he not only deliberately sent the plane down, but sped it up on the way.
That at least saved the 149 people a few seconds or minutes of horror.

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quote:
Originally posted by Pigwidgeon:
quote:
Originally posted by Marvin the Martian:
quote:
Originally posted by Eutychus:
The Flight Data Recorder has apparently just been found, and if it's at all usable I'm sure that will reveal more, in due time.

According to the BBC, it shows that he not only deliberately sent the plane down, but sped it up on the way.
That at least saved the 149 people a few seconds or minutes of horror.
I suppose we could scratch some level of *mercy* from the episode … None of those passengers will ever again undergo the agony of a visit to the dentist, nor ever again pay a penny in taxes ...
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Just to clarify something Golden Key said. Richard Jewel did NOT kill himself. He died of natural causes (kidney disease, diabetes, other things).

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Golden Key
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Actually, I did clarify that later. [Angel]

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