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Zach82
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My radiators are relentless heat demons put on earth to roast me alive.
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Mine are all from Laodicea. On a good day.
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Zach82
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At some point in history, it was decreed that every radiator in the city of Boston would be stuck on at full blast, and the only way to regulate the heat would be to open the windows to let in some cold air.
Efficient!
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Firenze
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Ah. Hereabouts we're permitted to regulate our central heating.
I could turn mine up, but then I'd be kept awake by the whirring sound as the meter clocks up a bill the approximate size of GNP of Bolivia.
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Zach82
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Do you have electric heating? I have steam heating, which means the landlord has to pay for the heating oil for the central boiler.
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Firenze
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Gas. Plus I am the owner of this fine example of uninsulated 1920s jerry-build *. I am thus free to spend winters huddled under 15 cardigans while paying a small fortune for such whispers of heat find their way through the pipework**.
*nice period features though.
**put in 25 years ago by previous owner, who was a Bodger.
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Zach82
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Could you have a go at insulating the pipes yourself? It's a pretty straight forward dealie.
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Firenze
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Cohorts of energy efficiency advisers have retired defeated by our house. The solution is Live Somewhere Else.
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Zach82
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Ah, sorry to hear that. Have you tried arbitrary fits of rage? Sometimes that helps.
In the United States, they have heaters fed with corn which, so I hear, can heat a large space quite cheaply. An electric device, which draws hardly any electricity at all, drops kernels of maize on a fire one by one. They make a similar jobber using wood pellets instead of food, if that makes you feel less guilty.
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L'organist
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Firenze
You too live in a house without cavity walls, then?
There is a solution - but I don't think the government scheme will cover it.
You need to apply solid insulation to the walls: either by battening out inside and then insulating between the battens before plasterboarding over; or by battening the outer walls, applying insulation and then there is either a pre-fabricated panel system or have something like cedar cladding or even traditional brick.
Polystyrene insulation attached to the bottom of the floor joists and then infill with rockwool will help too.
If you have crittal windows then there are replacements made that will take double-glazed units. If you're not in a conservation area just replace the windows. If stuck with the crittal then have secondary glazing.
The government scheme is all based on people having standard double-layer construction: anything out of the norm isn't covered.
My commiserations. We can't insulate much either: the outside route is barred because the house is listed and the inside method would leave us with rooms so small as to be unusable.
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Firenze
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I don't want to commandeer this thread for my house-heating problems. It's a totally first-world problem, of choosing to live in a property both old and large.
We will probably move in the next year or so (for other reasons) and look for something modern and insulated and poky.
So, let's move away from the bottom of the escalator and let the folk with questions off.
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can anyone recommend an english translation of Gilgamesh that would be easily accessible to a bright but easily bored 12 year old?
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Firenze: we have two of these, one for backup in the main house and one as my soul source of heat in the tent. they're expensive up front but it's worth it, as they pump out an exceptional amount of heat. When I ran out of fuel oil last winter, it heated my whole (small, 520 sq ft) house comfortably when it was -29C outside.
I don't know how reliable electricity is for you - we always try to have at least another source of heat if the power is out. in our case, wood.
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Eigon
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Robert Silverberg, the SF author, wrote a very good version of Gilgamesh called Gilgamesh the King.
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Pearl B4 Swine
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Originally posted by Firenze:
We will probably move in the next year or so (for other reasons) and look for something modern and insulated and poky.
Have a look at these-- Tiny Houses, and when they say tiny, they mean it. Pearlie
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TonyK
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A rather technical question - but not computer-based, so not for the Geeks thread!
Some 'kind' person has fiddled with the mixer sliders on our church sound system. Nobody seems to have a clue what the original settings were, and I don't know enough to fix the situation properly, although I have managed to stop the feedback!!
Basically my question is this: The radio mic receivers show -40 to -20 db on what I assume to be the incoming audio frequency. The sliders go from +30 to -40db (I think, it might be -30).
I've currently got the sliders on about -10, but it doesn't sound right somehow.
Does anybody know how to sort this out - or have we got to spend money we don't really have and get the installers back.
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lilBuddha
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Tony,
Can you either post a link to a pic of the board? Or provide a make and a model Number?
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Doc Tor
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Originally posted by TonyK:
A rather technical question - but not computer-based, so not for the Geeks thread!
Some 'kind' person has fiddled with the mixer sliders on our church sound system. Nobody seems to have a clue what the original settings were, and I don't know enough to fix the situation properly, although I have managed to stop the feedback!!
Basically my question is this: The radio mic receivers show -40 to -20 db on what I assume to be the incoming audio frequency. The sliders go from +30 to -40db (I think, it might be -30).
I've currently got the sliders on about -10, but it doesn't sound right somehow.
Does anybody know how to sort this out - or have we got to spend money we don't really have and get the installers back.
On the assumption that you're using a regular mixing desk...
There is a pot at the very top of the row. This is the gain, and will probably be also marked with +-db values. Turning the gain up (clockwise) will increase the signal to the desk.
Below that will (again, depending on your setup) be four or five pots controlling the treble, midrange and bass components of the signal. This will change the tone of the top, middle and bottom frequencies of the sound.
Only then does the signal get passed to the fader (the slider).
I hope that helps, and that I haven't hopelessly patronised you.
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TonyK
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Doc Tor - not patronising at all.
We don't have a mixer in the traditional sense with multiple controls for each channel. Each receiver feeds a single slider control in a unit of twelve sliders - only 6 of which are labelled (4 radio mics; 2 wired mics) At the extreme right end are two additional sliders - one labelled CD (which presumably feeds in the CD signal) and another slider which seems to control the overall signal to the power amplifier, though I am not certain about this. One of the church wardens told me that she understood that this was it's function...
There is what appears to be a graphic equaliser (as far as I understand it!!) but it's safely behind a clear plastic shield so hasn't been tweaked.
The general feeling is that the volume from the radio mics is too high, while the wired mics are about right. As I was trying to sort things out during a service, I didn't want to change the volume too much. I'll have another session in an empty church, but this too doesn't make for an accurate scenario, as there'll be no bodies to absorb sound - and presumably radio signal.
Why can't people just leave things alone when they don't understand it? And why didn't the installers leave a note of the optimal settings? ![[Frown]](frown.gif)
I hate being the one-eyed king in the land of the blind!!
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TonyK
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LilBuddha - I'll take a photo next time I'm down there - the hardware is mainly Audio-Technica (3000b series) though I think the power amplifier is a different make.
It'll be a day or two though...
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lilBuddha
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Originally posted by TonyK:
LilBuddha - I'll take a photo next time I'm down there - the hardware is mainly Audio-Technica (3000b series) though I think the power amplifier is a different make.
It'll be a day or two though...
Tony, The Audio Technica 3000b is a wireless system consisting of a large receiver and wireless mics.
Here is a link to the manual. At least the web page for it, I do not wish to force the hosts to download the pdf.
There are no sliders that I notice.
Each component that has any gain(volume) control could be part of the problem. A pic of each component would help. But as a starter, I would drop all the gains to a mid-level and raise/lower from there.
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Palimpsest
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This may be due to using line level sources on microphone channels or vice versa. The manual doesn't show any per channel adjustment, but it talks about a setting on each transmitter for microphone or instrument level.
I don't see where your wired microphone inputs are going in. If you have a mixer in the setup, there may be a switch on each input channel which switches between line level and microphone. If these are set incorrectly, you can get the results you're talking about either because the system level gain has been set wrong to adjust bad input level settings. Does the c.d. input work correctly?
I hope this doesn't add to the confusion.
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TonyK
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Thanks for the replies so far.
I think my main problem is getting my head around the negative numbers.
A volume control is easy - the zero setting is effectively off and the scale then goes up in positive numbers.
By analogy I can understand that a gain control, with a zero setting in the middle, increases the signal when it is moved to the positive and reduces the signal to the negative.
But how can a receiver show that it is receiving -40 to -20db? How can you have a negative signal??
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Originally posted by TonyK:
Why can't people just leave things alone when they don't understand it? And why didn't the installers leave a note of the optimal settings?
Once you've got the slider levels set correctly, make a white mark next to them with something like Tippex. (Of course that won't help you if people have fiddled with other buttons as well, but it's a start).
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TonyK: But how can a receiver show that it is receiving -40 to -20db? How can you have a negative signal??
Maybe it helps to remember that decibels are essentially a logarithmic scale. Instead of -40db, you could be thinking about 10⁻⁴.
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This might be a stupid question.
Yesterday, Royal Bank of Scotland had a computer glitch which stopped people being able to use their debit cards. Student son was one of those affected. He doesn't have a credit card, so he had no access to any money, and he doesn't normally carry much cash.
It's sorted now, but I realised I have no idea how to get money to someone in that situation - is there a way?
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Originally posted by TonyK:
But how can a receiver show that it is receiving -40 to -20db? How can you have a negative signal??
Decibels are always a ratio of one thing to another, or to a standard reference. A marking on a gain control of -10dB probably means that the output is 10dB less than the input, or less than what it would have been under some other condition (for example, with no equalization.)
Single levels are often referenced to some standard signal level, such as 1mW or 100mV at some standard impedance. In that case a negative number simply means that the level being measured is below the reference level, whatever it happens to be.
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Originally posted by comet:
can anyone recommend an english translation of Gilgamesh that would be easily accessible to a bright but easily bored 12 year old?
Comet, Andrew George has done a good modern English translation, but it is still in verse form, so you might want to check if your 12 yr old is ok with yards of poetry.
Joyce Tyldesley has done some excellent translations of Egyptian stories specifically done with younger readers in mind, if they like Gilgamesh, they may enjoy these as well.
I trust you will not be quite as excited by the epic of Gilgamesh, as its re-discoverer, George Smith, "On reading the text he...jumped up and rushed about the room in a great state of excitement, and, to the astonishment of those present, began to undress himself." ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif)
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Firenze
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Originally posted by AngloCatholicGirl:
Photo of the original text
Early versions of the Kindle had high text definition but were, unfortunately, rather cumbersome...
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Originally posted by North East Quine:
This might be a stupid question.
Yesterday, Royal Bank of Scotland had a computer glitch which stopped people being able to use their debit cards. Student son was one of those affected. He doesn't have a credit card, so he had no access to any money, and he doesn't normally carry much cash.
It's sorted now, but I realised I have no idea how to get money to someone in that situation - is there a way?
Western Union?
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Moneygram is now world wide. You just put in the sum at your end (post office) and he gets it ASAP at his end (post office.)
I use it all the time now to transfer money to India, but it works well in the same country. Moneygram
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I have just received some handkerchiefs I ordered for Mr. Plummer from the website of A Well Known Chain Store. They turned out to be disappointingly thin and he thinks he'll need to use them two at a time. Looking at other sites there are plenty of glowing descriptions of the area and patterns of their handkerchiefs, but nothing about the thickness. Does anyone know of a good UK source for thick'uns?
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TonyK
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Thanks, guys, for all your helpful tips and hints - especially Carex with the explanation for negative db ratings.
I changed the setting for one of the radio mics this morning and used it successfully at a funeral service.
I can now adjust the others accordingly.
Situation wasn't helped by the discovery that a large number (40 sets!) of zinc carbon batteries had been purchased for the transmitters. A test shows that they lose power very quickly and actually run out towards the end of our main service. Even I know that alkaline batteries should be used for these devices. Another test showed that 2300mAh rechargeables ran for over 4 hours without problem. The manual says that alkaline batteries will run for 6 - 8 hours, depending on the transmitter power setting.
I think I'm finally getting to grips with it all!
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I have just spent about twenty minutes trying to communicate with a business by e-mail. After I had filled in all the blanks, they showed some letters and numbers, slightly distorted, and asked me to type them. I tried more than thirty times, and every time I was told it was invalid. This happens to me more often than not. Is it just me, or do other people have this problem? Also, does anyone have any suggestions about what I can do?
If we still had the TICTH thread in Hell, I would have posted there.
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Moo: Also, does anyone have any suggestions about what I can do?
I think what you're talking about is CAPTCHA. Most CAPTCHA boxes have a little loudspeaker icon next to them, where you can hear the letters instead of reading them. Maybe this can help?
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I also find those hard. I've never tried the speaker, I may have to at some point. I'd guess it normally takes me 2-3 tries to get one right.
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Firenze
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Also, no spaces (even if the characters are shown in two groups). The site I usually encounter them on though changes the display if I get it wrong, so sooner or later I get ones I can decipher.
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Polly Plummer
Best to look at the luxury end of the market - Turnbulls, Selfridges, etc - or try House of F****r - and HofF have an on-line shop.
Had a quick squint and they have a variety of plain white available.
(Some sites don't list under handkerchiefs - try "pocket squares".
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There is no speaker icon.
This is the website for a company that installs expensive gutters that supposedly can't be clogged by leaves. (If they get clogged, the company will send someone to clear them for free.)
Why on earth do they want to make it so difficult for a potential customer to contact them?
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On the captcha things, may they roast in hell--
If you have any unusual software doohickeys (like the one that allows me to add Viet accent marks) make sure the bloody things are off before you enter anhthing, or they'll throw funky coding in there and mess it all up.
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I gave up and telephoned them. I didn't want to because of my hearing problem, but I couldn't think of anything else to do.
The call went okay, and they made an appointment to come and give me an estimate.
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Originally posted by Firenze:
Also, no spaces (even if the characters are shown in two groups). The site I usually encounter them on though changes the display if I get it wrong, so sooner or later I get ones I can decipher.
If you are given the option to select another, do so. I find anything with I, L or 1 is trouble. S and 5 can be awkward too.
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Mr D and I were having a bit of a (ahem) "discussion" about the fact that he had left the stairs and landing lights on all day again and he said that they were only two LED lights and a low energy bulb (true) and that
1. They were designed to be left on all day
2. They took up minimal amount of electricity
3. It took more energy turning them off and on than it did leaving them on all day (for 12 hours)
4. I often leave the kitchen door open and let out all the heat and that is a much worse sin and makes the Baby Jesus cry because it pisses all the heat away.
Now, I will concede that (4) is possibly true (except maybe the bit about the Baby Jesus crying) but the other three points sound like slightly-guilty-justifying-myself bollocks. But I don't know. What do People Who Know About These Things think?
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Doc Tor
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Originally posted by Dormouse:
Mr D and I were having a bit of a (ahem) "discussion" about the fact that he had left the stairs and landing lights on all day again and he said that they were only two LED lights and a low energy bulb (true) and that
1. They were designed to be left on all day
2. They took up minimal amount of electricity
3. It took more energy turning them off and on than it did leaving them on all day (for 12 hours)
4. I often leave the kitchen door open and let out all the heat and that is a much worse sin and makes the Baby Jesus cry because it pisses all the heat away.
Now, I will concede that (4) is possibly true (except maybe the bit about the Baby Jesus crying) but the other three points sound like slightly-guilty-justifying-myself bollocks. But I don't know. What do People Who Know About These Things think?
AFAIK - compact fluorescents do 'wear out' if you turn them on and off frequently. LEDs do not, which is why they're almost universally used for the lights on electronic gubbins. LEDs can and do fail, but that's more likely due to a failure in the surrounding circuit than the LED itself. The LED bulbs from IKEA that I've just bought suggest they might outlast me, and I'm only 47.
While low-energy bulbs are low energy, they are not zero energy. I've found that I have to use more CF bulbs in a given area than incandescents - my kitchen has 11 11W CFs, which is brighter than two 60W bulbs, but not as bright as 11 60W bulbs... would I leave two 60W bulbs burning when I didn't have to? No. I'm not sure about whether it takes more power to turn a CF on than it consumes in normal use, but that doesn't sound likely. LEDs, it certainly doesn't. CFs do take a minute or so to come to full brightness. If I'm in an out of a room, I'd leave them on. If I was out of the house for an hour or so, I'd turn them off.
If I could afford to swap all my CFs for LEDs at once, I would. It'll be a gradual changeover instead.
Also, shut the bloody door. 'Born in a barn?' is a frequent cry in our household.
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Originally posted by Doc Tor:
Also, shut the bloody door. 'Born in a barn?' is a frequent cry in our household.
[tangent] I once saw a cartoon of Jesus leaving a door open -- and being asked that question. [/tangent]
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chive
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I know nothing about opera except that when I do listen to a soprano singing some anguished song (I don't even know what to call the songs) I find it soothes the mental. Can anyone recommend a CD of suitable anguish to provide said soothing?
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Jengie jon
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I am looking for a quote that describes Dissenting/NonConformist sects I suspect in 18th century but maybe earlier. It is not complimentary and is something like "A disputatious and divisive people" but it picks up a description that instantly recognizable as catching something of the character of the tradition.
Anyone know what it actually is?
Jengie
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Pigwidgeon
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quote:
Originally posted by chive:
I know nothing about opera except that when I do listen to a soprano singing some anguished song (I don't even know what to call the songs) I find it soothes the mental. Can anyone recommend a CD of suitable anguish to provide said soothing?
Solo songs in an opera are arias. If you want anguish, you'd probably like Puccini (I don't particularly, but I don't like anguish). You might want to try something like this.
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Can anyone recommend a good AddBlock?
I don't want to Google it as I may download something even worse!
Every other word on the Ship is being made into a link and popping up adds - it's awful!
(My anti virus is Kaspersky and all up to date)
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