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The word is 'Faculty'

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Faculty? Usually from the diocesan advisory committee I think.

I watched that episode but Just kept thinking she should be in Lewis!

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Faculties can be a pain, too! [Smile]

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Thank you. I only ever came across it once during my connection with the CofE, and it was in the church my parents went to, not one I was associated with. So not essential to my life to know. But there was this faculty shaped hole in my brain that wouldn't fill up. Thanks again.
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Is anyone able to suggest a kind of heat pad or collar for neck muscles - the sort you can pop into the microwave that retains heat for a while? I'd originally thought a wheat one, but they all seem a bit heavy for someone elderly, so possibly gel. If anyone can recommend one, that would be great.
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quote:
Originally posted by Ariel:
Is anyone able to suggest a kind of heat pad or collar for neck muscles - the sort you can pop into the microwave that retains heat for a while? I'd originally thought a wheat one, but they all seem a bit heavy for someone elderly, so possibly gel. If anyone can recommend one, that would be great.

I've one similar to this. Light, though, is a relative term. I think it is lighter than the wheat ones, but it this could be largely because it does not sag. The wheat wan to roll off wherever you put them. The lightest are the disposable, but that obviously costs more for long term use.

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Originally posted by leo:
A lovely image, I found it in To Grow in Love: A Spirituality of Ageing by Brian Grogan.

He says it is from a theologian but there are no footnotes.

Does anyone know which theologian?



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The actual quote is, I believe:

quote:
“the reality of creation as a whole has become a monstrance of God's real presence”
and the theologian is Hans Urs von Balthasar. The book is “The Glory of the Lord”, vol I p420. Here's one source.

Just shows how important it is to properly attribute and source quotations in one's writings.

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Thank you.

The author didn't use footnotes - presumably because his book was originally serialised in 'The Messenger' magazine.

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Jengie jon

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A really odd one for the font nerds. For my thesis I have bits that are in a different "voice" to the main text. The problem is that, while I can find advice on choosing two font solutions for headers and main text, I cannot find any advice for working with a third font to carry the other voice. Any suggestion on how to go about choosing this third font.

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My suggestion would be to use one sans-serif font for headers - do you mean headings? - and use large bold for those, and one serif font for main text, normal roman. You can then call out the additional material in normal, non-bold, sans-serif which will look distinct from the serif. If you start introducing extra typefaces it can all start to look distracting and it needs to look easy to read.

Alternatively you could reverse the idea, have your headings in a large bold serif font and keep that font, but drop the point size and scrap the bold for displayed material. That might even be in italic. Your main text would be in the sans-serif.

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Would italicising do?

The only other thing I can think of would be choosing a 'handwritten' font.

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Ariel

This is a three font problem, not a two.

Firenze

The problem is italic is used for quotes and book titles.

If people want my provisional choices

Headers in Geneva (all right that is for fun reason that the thesis involves the Reformed tradition and that seemed a good way in keeping on theme)

Probably a Garamond (classic serif font) for the main paragraph text.

I am open to changes in them.


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I was going to suggest Bradley Hand - but it's not free: list of free handwritten fonts. Of that list One Stroke Script might work

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quote:
Originally posted by Jengie Jon:
This is a three font problem, not a two.

It doesn't have to be, is what I'm saying. If you want it to look professional, I strongly recommend not using a third font. You may already have italic for book titles, etc - that's not a problem. If you use italic for the "third voice" then simply reverse the italic of book titles etc to roman in those extracts. This is what they do in academic book publishing.

However, your thesis, your rules.

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Ariel:

Tell me how I am to distinguish this other voice then?

Jengie

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Jengie jon

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Thanks Curiosity

Script would be right, these are more personal episodes than the main academic text. My main concern is legibility.

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quote:
Originally posted by Jengie Jon:
Tell me how I am to distinguish this other voice then?

This is a suggestion which you are of course free to not pursue, but this is how I would go about it.

Main text: Garamond

Headings: Geneva - if the Garamond main text is c. 10pt headings probably need to be c14pt bold to make them stand out

Third voice: Geneva, roman, c. same point size as the Garamond. The difference betwen serif and sans-serif should be clear enough. But if it isn't, then the third voice could be in italics. Where a book title or already italicized word appears in the third voice, that instance of italic would need to be romanized. I.e. in that kind of situation you simply reverse the usual italic.

Anyway, that's my 2p worth, and I've nothing more to add.

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In publishing we've dealt with this by adjusting other matters--bold or semibold, condensed vs not, indented vs not, extra leading, block quote style, type ornaments, text boxes, and/or background shading. Any of these might help to avoid the third font.

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How about just right-justifying it?

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I would think that italics are the natural form of the second voice. You can reverse citations and book titles into roman. Less graceful alternatives would be small caps, if the alternate voice bits are small enough or slightly different weights like semi-bold or the equivalent. If they are paragraphs, then using a larger set of indents to 3/4 the measure may be sufficient.
The problem with using different fonts is what seems obvious to one reader may be missed by an oblivious reader. If it's really obvious it may be distracting to a perceptive reader.

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Yes, what Hart said; Left and right justification. The use of too many fonts is messy and distracting (IMO).

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Actually Palimpest that is a really good argument for putting in a different font. If the reader does not notice the difference the whole second voice pieces will feel very odd indeed. In my opinion it would be far more likely to annoy the reader if they think they are reading the first voice and find you are in the second than anyone is likely to be annoyed over changes of text.

They are faction (fictionalised accounts of actual events) and therefore the voice is not academic. This is why a script hand would be appropriate. However they are part of the flow of the chapters I write and need to be read in place as the academic prose is written with them in. I wish my published paper was online as it has the same sort of structure.

Boxes would be the normal way to do this but there are problems with this:
  1. Getting the word count right
  2. They are too long for boxes
  3. They actually fit into the written structure of the chapter

The aim is partly to support the academic text but partly also to destabilise it. I am inviting people to explore imaginatively the same phenomena and see if they agree that my interpretation is plausible.

Left and right justification is out due to writing conventions.

Jengie

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Fortean occurrence in the cupboard.

We have a large, walk-in cupboard on the shelves of which are a large number of miscellaneous glasses. This morning, three glasses sitting together contained liquid - apparently water, with a yellowish tinge but little or no perceptible odour. There was no liquid on the shelf round about, nor on the shelf above. One glass (a goblet) had a small amount, one (a tall tumbler) was one third full and a stemmed beer glass was almost completely full. They are at the front of the collection, in fairly frequent use, and the liquid is unlikely to have passed unnoticed - so this has happened overnight or at most in the last day or so.

Your theories are invited.

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Someone is messing with your head.

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It is out of fear of this that every house I've lived in where I've had this power has stored glasses upside down.

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What is shelf underneath made of / covered with? I.e. if there had been some sort of leak / drip 36 hours ago, would the shelf have absorbed any liquid on it and now appear dry?
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Painted wood.

But there is nothing to leak from. No bottles above, not adjacent to or underneath a wall or ceiling.

If it were a condensation event - though as an interior cupboard the climate is a very stable one - why just those 3 glasses, and how come the high variability in volume?

LC - trouble is, there are only the two of us in the house. That and a rather lively (incontinent? but tidy?) mouse.

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What is the difference between "second cousin" and "first cousin once removed"? And does either of these terms explain the relationship of me to my cousin's child? (and if not, what is the term to describe this relationship?)

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First cousins share a common grandparent.
Second cousins share a common great grandparent.
Third cousins share a common great-great grandparent.

"Removed" comes into play if the two people are of different generations.
Once removed - a single generation apart.
Twice removed - two generations apart.

So you and your cousin are first cousins.
Your child and your cousin's child are second cousins.

Your cousin's child is your first cousin, once removed.
You are your cousin's child's second cousin, once removed.

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Your first cousin once removed is the child of your first cousin.

The grandchild of your great aunt or great uncle is your second cousin.

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Thank you both - that's very helpful and cleared it up for me [Smile]

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Basically, to get the "first / second/ third / fourth you count back from you to the common ancestor. Then to get the "once /twice/three times removed" bit you count down from the common ancestor to your relative. If you're the same generation, then there's no "removed" if there's one generation difference you're "once removed"

The reason why you and your cousin's child aren't the same to each other is because your cousin's child has to count an extra generation to get back to the common ancestor. But the generational difference is identical either way, so you're both "once removed"

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quote:
Originally posted by Firenze:
This morning, three glasses sitting together contained liquid - apparently water, with a yellowish tinge but little or no perceptible odour. There was no liquid on the shelf round about, nor on the shelf above. One glass (a goblet) had a small amount, one (a tall tumbler) was one third full and a stemmed beer glass was almost completely full. They are at the front of the collection, in fairly frequent use, and the liquid is unlikely to have passed unnoticed - so this has happened overnight or at most in the last day or so.

Your theories are invited.

That's a quare thing.

1) Have you had guests round recently who might have put glasses in the cupboard while you weren't looking?

2) Are you sure it's water in the glasses?

3) Are the glasses all of the same provenance i.e. left to you by an elderly teetotal relative in a will, who hated the Demon Drink?

4) Are the glasses in order, i.e. the fullest on the side furthest from the emptiest? If so, you may have a tidy ghost.

5) Empty, wash and put them back with a request for [your favourite brand of white wine or beer] next time. Sit back and await results.

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quote:
Originally posted by Firenze:
Fortean occurrence in the cupboard.

We have a large, walk-in cupboard on the shelves of which are a large number of miscellaneous glasses. This morning, three glasses sitting together contained liquid - apparently water, with a yellowish tinge but little or no perceptible odour. There was no liquid on the shelf round about, nor on the shelf above. One glass (a goblet) had a small amount, one (a tall tumbler) was one third full and a stemmed beer glass was almost completely full. They are at the front of the collection, in fairly frequent use, and the liquid is unlikely to have passed unnoticed - so this has happened overnight or at most in the last day or so.

Your theories are invited.

The north east family discussed this over dinner, it being far more interesting than our own lives.

We want to know:
1. Do you still have the glasses with the liquid in them?
2. If so, does the differing levels of water let you play a tune on them?
3. Where is the nearest source of liquid? Any pipes running through the cupboard?
4. Have you had anyone in the house in the last couple of days?

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For Christmas I was given a very pretty glass jar that had been made into a home made candle, completely full of wax with a wick. The wick has now come out and I am left with a jar three quarters full of hard wax. Is there any way I can get rid of/melt the wax to get it out so I can save the jar?

I have thought of putting it in the microwave on a very low setting, or in a very low oven, or stand it in a pot of hot water ... would any of these ideas work?

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I'd go for the hot water option as the safest, after all you only need to melt the wax around the edges to get it to slide out, unless the jar has a narrow neck, in which case you may need to do it several times.

Others may be more venturesome.

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Yeah, hot not boiling water as Huia says. After the main mass slides out, you might also need to put hot water into the container to remove the last bits. Hot water inside is a god way to remove the final bits of a spent candle as well.

ETA: Have a care and proceed cautiously. Better to start with water too cold than to break the jar. Candle jar glass is not always the highest quality.

[ 25. February 2014, 19:45: Message edited by: lilBuddha ]

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quote:
Originally posted by Ariel:
That's a quare thing.

1) Have you had guests round recently who might have put glasses in the cupboard while you weren't looking?

Nope. Nobody else in the house for weeks.

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2) Are you sure it's water in the glasses?

We weren't going to taste it. But it looked and smelt like slightly musty, yellowish water.

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3) Are the glasses all of the same provenance i.e. left to you by an elderly teetotal relative in a will, who hated the Demon Drink?

Having neither teetotal relatives, nor ones who left me anything, definitely not. All of very ordinary, and differing, provenance.

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4) Are the glasses in order, i.e. the fullest on the side furthest from the emptiest? If so, you may have a tidy ghost.

Dunno. Beloved had moved - and indeed washed and used one - before telling me about it.

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5) Empty, wash and put them back with a request for [your favourite brand of white wine or beer] next time. Sit back and await results.

Trouble is, even if they were brimming with the '83 Côte de Nuits, you'd hesitate to drink it, wouldn't you?
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quote:
Originally posted by North East Quine:

We want to know:
1. Do you still have the glasses with the liquid in them?
2. If so, does the differing levels of water let you play a tune on them?
3. Where is the nearest source of liquid? Any pipes running through the cupboard?
4. Have you had anyone in the house in the last couple of days?

1. No. Realistically - no sterile, sealable container to decant to, and no chance either of us would get round to finding an analyst.
2. At most it would have been three notes. But yes, it might have summoned the mothership.
3. No pipes. A number of bottles in the general vicinity, but I think we would have spotted if the liquid had the characteristics of any of them.
4. Owing to ongoing dental misery, we've been in social purdah.

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Re candle in jar:

Ditto re warm water. Candles sometimes contain odd ingredients, and who knows how they might react in a microwave?

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quote:
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Candles sometimes contain odd ingredients, and who knows how they might react in a microwave?

That's the fun part.

It could be spectacular.

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Query: is it right that we are now in late Feb 2014 and this thread is still titled 2013?

Should it not be closed down and a new, fresh thread begun?

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quote:
Originally posted by TheAlethiophile:
Query: is it right that we are now in late Feb 2014 and this thread is still titled 2013?

Should it not be closed down and a new, fresh thread begun?

Maybe we are waiting until we have 2,013 questions...

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quote:
Originally posted by TheAlethiophile:
Query: is it right that we are now in late Feb 2014 and this thread is still titled 2013?

Not any more.

quote:

Should it not be closed down and a new, fresh thread begun?

If it falls into sufficient desuetude to be swept away in the regular tidy, that will be a Sign. Otherwise - kicks an offside mudguard - looks sound enough to me.

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quote:
Originally posted by ken:
quote:
Originally posted by Golden Key:



Candles sometimes contain odd ingredients, and who knows how they might react in a microwave?

That's the fun part.

It could be spectacular.

Thanks all, the hot water idea worked fine.

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quote:
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quote:
Originally posted by North East Quine:

We want to know:
1. Do you still have the glasses with the liquid in them?
2. If so, does the differing levels of water let you play a tune on them?
3. Where is the nearest source of liquid? Any pipes running through the cupboard?
4. Have you had anyone in the house in the last couple of days?

1. No. Realistically - no sterile, sealable container to decant to, and no chance either of us would get round to finding an analyst.
2. At most it would have been three notes. But yes, it might have summoned the mothership.
3. No pipes. A number of bottles in the general vicinity, but I think we would have spotted if the liquid had the characteristics of any of them.
4. Owing to ongoing dental misery, we've been in social purdah.

Do either of you sleepwalk?
Were the glasses just where they normally were on the shelf?
Are they used for anything special?
Have you taken everything off the shelf above and confirmed there's nothing on it?
Do you have any theories or are you still mystified?

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Ariel
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Have you had any more recurrences?

Have there been other anomalies in the house since you've been there?

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Re Candle in the jar

Have you tried adding another wick. If you put one on the surface, it may melt its way into the body of the wax.

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lilBuddha
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I could be wrong, but it seems to me the wick would remain on the surface or relatively close. One heat the wax to melting the insert a new wick, perhaps.

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