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NAB is the translation used during Masses in English and has hence become the American RC 'default.'
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If someone is lurking, can s/he read discussions on any of the message boards?
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Originally posted by SusanDoris:
If someone is lurking, can s/he read discussions on any of the message boards?
Yes. It's only if you wish to post that you need to login (or register of course, if you don't have a login).
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Thank you.
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Moo
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I just bought some sea salt and noticed that the package said, 'Best before 8/14'.
I never heard of salt deteriorating, especially when it's in an airtight container. Does anyone have any idea what that's about?
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Lamb Chopped
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I have a memory of someone asking a similar question a few years ago and a Shipmate saying it was to satisfy rules and regs--that some fool jurisdiction had made it necessary for ALL foods to carry an expiration date, even the ones that neither expire nor cause you to expire. Sounds the kind of thing that would happen round here...
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Originally posted by Lamb Chopped:
I have a memory of someone asking a similar question a few years ago and a Shipmate saying it was to satisfy rules and regs--that some fool jurisdiction had made it necessary for ALL foods to carry an expiration date, even the ones that neither expire nor cause you to expire. Sounds the kind of thing that would happen round here...
No Federal law, individual states appear to vary.
Different in the UK.
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Originally posted by Moo:
I just bought some sea salt and noticed that the package said, 'Best before 8/14'.
I never heard of salt deteriorating, especially when it's in an airtight container. Does anyone have any idea what that's about?
Moo
Yes, it's barmy, like the honey that I buy which has a 'Best before' date two years ahead when honey will keep perfectly well for decades, if not centuries. It's just a backside-covering, anti-compensation-culture legal device which transfers the risk of any ill-effects of consumption from the producer to the consumer after the date specified, even if there is a vanishingly small likelihood of the food product deteriorating in any way. It just means: 'If you eat this after the date given and you are unwell, it's all your fault and you can't sue us for compensation'.
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'Eat by' a date, is the date by which it is considered safe to eat.
'Best before' means that it is still safe to eat but the quality might deteriorate after that.
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It always mystified me that mineral water, which the producers advertise as having been "filtered through volcanic rocks over thousands of years" still has a best before date.
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When re-fixing the heel to my favourite black zip-up ankle boots, I inadvertedly squeezed the shoe & heel togeter so well that, unbeknown to me, the super glue oozed out and spread onto the zip. Which now appears to be superglued in the open position.
Is there any way of dissolving superglue, that doesn't involve spending a lot of money, or do I resort to buying new shoes?
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You can get super glue remover or, I seem to remember, acetone? (nail varnish remover) was kept in the lab to unstick the fingers of the foolish. Whether or not it would dissolve the zip is another matter.
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Not all nail varnish removers are acetone, and so they won't all work (in general acetone-based ones are harsh and efficient, non-acetone ones are less efficient but kinder to your nails).
You can get superglue remover (Amazon have a variety at around £2-3).
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The Machine Elf
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Originally posted by Sparrow:
It always mystified me that mineral water, which the producers advertise as having been "filtered through volcanic rocks over thousands of years" still has a best before date.
You're not storing in it the rock though - after a certain point, the plasticisers from the bottle will leech into the water sufficiently that drinking it will turn you hermaphrodite.
Or maybe it will just task a bit stale.
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Broadband question.
We are having LOTS of trouble with our T*lk T*lk broadband. Seriously thinking of upgrading to something more reliable, but wanted to do a sanity check first. We keep losing the connection, on a daily basis now it seems. Somethimes we've noticed that the connection drops when the phone rings, other times it seems to be more random.
The Talk Talk helpdesk said maybe the router is faulty, and suggested we try another one, but I'm not sure that using an old router or someone elses would work as don't they have to be configured with your own account details etc. They also told me if they send an engineer round to check our connection, any fault caused by the internal phone wiring inside the house would mean we would have to pay £50 for call out. Want to avoid this charge, and also the embarrassment of calling them out to discover its our 'fault', so I wanted to run our set-up past you knowledgeable people, to do a sanity check of whether it could be the cause of these problems, and if so, upgrading to a different provider is unlikely to help.
The phone line enters the house just inside the front door, that's where the phone socket is. Unfortunately there is no power point in the hallway, so can't locate the broadband router there as no power for it, without trailing cables in from another room. So when we moved in last year, I bought a 10 metre (I think) phone extension cable. This runs from the socket, up the stairs, into the study upstairs. Terminates with a phone socket, into which we have plugged the ADSL filter. Coming out of the flter is the phone wire, and the wire to the router. Nothing else is plugged into the downstairs phone socket except the extension cable (but no filter at that point - I didn't think it was necessary as everything goes through the filter upstairs).
Is this set-up likely to cause problems?
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When we had a problem with our BT phone line (the phone, not just the broadband) they told us to take the front off the main socket and plug the filter and phone into the inner socket. If there was still a problem it had to be with the external phone wiring (and therefore not our expense).
This is obviously less helpful in the case of an intermittent fault, and in your case there would still be the possibility of a fault with the extension cable or the router, but it should exclude the rest of internal wiring.
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Gracious Rebel
I am with T*lkT*lk, and I have not used a company supplied router for over a decade! The settings are all available on the website for the routers, and if you have a techy friend they normally can work out which settings actually apply to the router you are using (even if it is not one of the ones listed).
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Oddly enough, I spent half of Sunday adding an extra mains socket near to the master socket to eliminate an extension. It hasn't eliminated drop-outs on our service, particularly when the phone rings (this is a symptom of there being excess resistance somewhere in the circuit, so the fewer non-permanent connections in the wire the better). Try putting your router into the master for a few days and see if it helps. If there are other reasons for disconnections which are external to the house (our service also tends to go down when it snows ), then again it's more likely to be a line fault.
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Well, I followed my hunch and tried plugging the router directly (via a filter) into the master socket downstairs. Had to use an extension cable for the power of course, so have wires trailing from the lounge .... but it works. When it hadn't been working since about midday when plugged in upstairs (when I posted this afternoon I was using a 3G dongle to connect)
So I think I have answered my own question - that it DOES make a difference to not involve the long extension cable. So maybe we don't need to change supplier after all ... will have to see if it stays connected like this, and if so, will have to look into getting a new power socket added into the hall.
TME thanks for the info about resistance etc, exactly the sort of info I was after, and it explained why it so often went down when the phone rang etc.
Still can't work out why it worked satisfactorily with this wiring, (with only very occasional drop outs), for about a year, and only recently has it been a daily occurrence for connection to be lost.
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The Intrepid Mrs S
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Bit of a strange one here - from time to time, I get calls or texts on my mobile phone from loan companies. They all think I am called 'Claire' - which I definitely am not! - and that I am looking for a loan of £200 (again, thank goodness, definitely not). There's always a way to stop the texts- text 'Stop' or 'End' - and it's only a minor annoyance BUT I'm a bit worried that there may be something behind it. I can't imagine anyone giving the wrong mobile number by accident to 6 different loan companies ![[Ultra confused]](graemlins/confused2.gif)
Has this happened to anyone else?
I've had that number for about 15 years, I should think, so it never belonged to anyone else.
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I had a similar hassle with my mobile phone about 2 years ago. I was getting up to 20 calls and texts a day from different loan companies, all telling me that my loan was ready and asking to speak to Sa*****a Rob***on.
Not only have I never even encountered someone by that name, but I have had the phone number from new since 1994!!
At first, they were just annoying, but after several weeks of this, my blood-pressure was rising. I tried various tactics to get them to stop... from being polite and asking nicely to being downright stroppy and rude. They all insisted that it was my fault!
Eventually, I used the tactic (which was in fact true) that I had a relative who was seriously ill in Hospital and that every time the phone rang or I got a text, I feared the worst. That seemed to work.
I asked one of them why I was getting calls from so many companies and they told me that they are all in a 'group' and 'share numbers'!
B*stards! ![[Mad]](angryfire.gif)
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Originally posted by The Intrepid Mrs S:
Bit of a strange one here - from time to time, I get calls or texts on my mobile phone from loan companies. They all think I am called 'Claire' - which I definitely am not! - and that I am looking for a loan of £200 (again, thank goodness, definitely not). There's always a way to stop the texts- text 'Stop' or 'End' - and it's only a minor annoyance BUT I'm a bit worried that there may be something behind it. I can't imagine anyone giving the wrong mobile number by accident to 6 different loan companies
Has this happened to anyone else?
I've had that number for about 15 years, I should think, so it never belonged to anyone else.
Mrs. S, puzzled
Someone has probably made a loan/car insurance (etc.) enquiry online and used fake details to do so (I must confess I am notorious for doing it myself) inadvertantly using your number in the process and the company they were searching has then sold those details on to a numbre of comapnies who then will randomly text/call you in the hope that you are a person who fits the product they are tryign to con someone out of their money for.
Alternatively you may have done this and not ticked (or possibly not unticked) the appropriate box which means the company cannot sell your details on.
I get several of these calls occassionally (despite being extra careful about allowing companies to sell on my details) and either try and turn it into some evangelising opportunity (which normally means they never phone back) or if I'm being narky allow them to waffle on for a while before explaining, very sweetly, that out of politeness I have allowed them to waffle on but I am not the person they are looking for (it has the same reaction, though the other day I had f**k off repeated at me several times before they hung up).
But anyway - your number has somewhere along he line been sold onto one of these companies who are just hoping to hit a person to scam.
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Thank you Meerkat and Sergius-Melli. Each of these companies seems to obey my instructions to STOP or END, and mercifully they don't often call - so I suppose I'll just delete them. I have checked and the SMSs aren't premium numbers or anything.
Ah well - thanks again guys ![[Smile]](smile.gif)
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Mrs S, if you're in the UK you can report unsolicited/unwanted calls and texts to the Information Commissioner's Office. Each time I get a text (I never get calls thankfully), usually about PPI or accident compensation, it's my first port of call
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Too many pancakes...
If held aloft forever, would all the golden syrup eventually drop off the spoon? It's been bugging me for a while!
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Presumably, but if it was me holding the spoon the only way the experiment could take place would be if I was holding it over my open mouth.
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Originally posted by Jack the Lass:
Mrs S, if you're in the UK you can report unsolicited/unwanted calls and texts to the Information Commissioner's Office. Each time I get a text (I never get calls thankfully), usually about PPI or accident compensation, it's my first port of call
Also with most mobile phone operators you can forward spam texts to 7726 (the keys corresponding to the letters SPAM) to report them as spam.
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OK, long wind up for a question here-
A while back, I was sick and watching midday television. I was watching one of those anthology shows like the Night Gallery, a modern reproduction of the Twilight Zone, Amazing Tales, or something like that. The episode opened with a women coming to the office a priest with a problem. She was a saint, and she felt it was getting in the way of her husband's career and her daughter's social life. When she suddenly glowed with heavenly light, accompanied by a little heavenly chorus singing "Hallelujah," it is confirmed that she is indeed a saint.
She tells the amazed priest that she doesn't want to be a saint anymore, though he can't help her. So the episode goes on with her many attempts to not be a saint anymore. She swears, worships a statue of Buddha, and murders bugs, but nothing works. As she crosses off the list of the 10 commandments she's broken, she almost despairs of ever being free of sainthood, until a visit from her sister-in-law. "It's really quite simple- you're doing all that stuff for the good of your husband and daughter. That's what saints do. If you really don't want to be a saint, PRIDE is the way to go!"
So our hero goes upstairs, dresses in a white robe, and then comes down and insists that she's going to milk this sainthood thing for all it's worth. Everyone will come and see her and how holy she is and will love her for it. Suddenly, the heavenly glowing stops! The whole family gathers and celebrates the end of her sainthood, and they live happily ever after.
Now, my question: What was I watching? I thought it was a funny little show, and I want a copy of it to show my confirmation class just for laughs.
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I don't know, but I had a lot of fun trying to google it. I hope you find out.
My question is about Les Miserables . In the film, the actors mostly used British accents, with Cockney for the poor or trashy characters and Received Pronunciation (or near enough) for the rich ones. I was wondering, what accents do they use in the Broadway production? If they use American accents, how do they distinguish between the characters' different social classes?
Also, do they change the lyrics to make it more American, or do they stick to Herbert Kretzmer's more 'English' lyrics? ('See 'em with their trousers off, they're never quite as grand', for example - would they use the word 'pants' instead?)
Sorry, that's way more than one question! I was just intrigued/surprised by the use of (mainly) English accents in the film and wondered how it's played in the USA - or Canada, for that matter.
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I remember from the dim and distant past a children's musical about Moses. I am dating it to about 1980 or thereabouts, and it appeared on either the BBC Watch! programme or something similar. The song that's stuck in my head is the last one, with chorus something like "God said to Moses cross over, cross over, cross over".
What am I remembering?
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Zach82
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Whot, "When Israel was in Egypt-land, let my people go?"
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Leorning Cniht
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Originally posted by Zach82:
Whot, "When Israel was in Egypt-land, let my people go?"
No, that's not it (although there was certainly a song with "and Moses said 'let my people go!'" as a refrain). The thing I'm thinking of was definitely aimed specifically at children.
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This is more a request for comment than a question with a definite answer, but it doesn't seem worthwhile starting a new thread and this seems the best place to ask.
I've just finished a book by an American author, which involves two American women, probably about 60 years old, who are on a trip to the Scottish highlands. One of them is going to go by train to Edinburgh, and tells the other that she is looking forward to the trip because she has never been on a train - her companion makes no comment so presumably she, and the author, do not think this a surprising comment to make.
This brought me up short, as the idea of mature person from a developed country who had never been on a train seemed very odd. But them I thought about how long-distance travel in America is usually depicted on screen as involving flying (or 'Greyhound' coach?) rather than train travel. On the other hand, it's not as though trains are unknown in America.
Do American shipmates think the idea of an adult American who has never travelled by train unusual or perfectly common or an indication of someone from the boondocks or what?
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Different parts of the US have different train usage. Places of denser population like on the East Coast and parts of the urban Midwest are more likely to use them for commuting. I live in California and bar a a little train museum school trip, never rode a train in the US until my forties when the Metrolink commuter trains started up. Now I can take a train to Union Station in L.A. when I feel like it. I might take it next week to check out some galleries in Chinatown.
A person who was a homebody in a town in the wide expanses of the West might well have never taken a train.
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Leorning Cniht
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Also note that whilst it is possible to travel long distances between some cities on Amtrak, it is both slow and expensive. I have relatives who have taken an Amtrak trip, but as a means of seeing the countryside rather than as a means of transportation.
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Phoenix is the sixth largest city in the U.S. We no longer have passenger trains. The closest one is over 100 miles away. We do have a "light rail" but that hardly counts.
I'd love to have train service to other western cities, and there's been talk of it for years but I don't know if it will ever happen.
(I grew up in the eastern U.S., so I have taken trains many times -- as well as in other countries -- but many people here never have.)
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Train travel would have been more common in an earlier age, before the automobile became the primary mode of transportation. If the book were set around 1950, it would depend on the age of the women and where they grew up. Train travel was much more common around the turn of the century, when it often was the primary connection for longer distance travel, so an older woman would be more likely to have ridden a train. But one who grew up during the Great Depression and WWII (when people didn't travel as much) may have done all of her travel by bus if she had traveled at all. (
While air travel was available around 1950, it really didn't become popular for the masses until around the 1960's. It's really the only practical way to get any significant distance around the country unless one can afford to spend several days in transit.
In later years train travel became even more uncommon. Many cities don't have any passenger service by train, and the remaining trains are used primarily for freight.
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They keep talking about a bullet train from L.A. to Las Vegas. Yeah, right. Just what we need- a way to gamble government money and personal money. ![[Roll Eyes]](rolleyes.gif)
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No, it wouldn't be that unusual for an American to never have ridden a train. Outside of Europe and Japan I have ridden a train for exactly one trip, when I was 22, and I greatly regretted not taking the bus.
It really is difficult to express how miserable the state of American passenger rail is. The system has seen absolutely no investment at all in the past 50 years, and Republicans have been actively trying to murder it for half that time.
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Why are the windows in all automobiles electric and there are no longer any manual, roll them down with a circular lever knob thing windows like they were in the olden days of 10-15 years ago?
I write this as the passenger side electric window has ceased to do anything but roll down, and it is winter here. It seems like useless and preferably optional technology to me. You can get them up if you take the door apart, and then you must refrain from touching the down side of the rocker button. My second question is how to get myself and everyone else trained to not touch the window button for that window until we can get it fixed! (-22°C yesterday, near freezing today, but you may get the urgency and annoyance about it!)
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Drifting Star
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I've often wondered the same thing - particularly when there have been floods, since electric windows are unlikely to work when submerged, and doors are hard to open against water.
The window controls failed on my previous car, and replacing them would have cost considerably more than the car was worth. I carried a hammer in the glove box so that I could smash them in an emergency.
Manual controls make so much more sense.
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lilBuddha
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Originally posted by Drifting Star:
I've often wondered the same thing - particularly when there have been floods, since electric windows are unlikely to work when submerged, and doors are hard to open against water.
Actually, the power windows usually work quite well with the car submerged. A window breaking device of some sort is still a good idea in case of an accident.
As to why it is difficult to find cars with manual windows, marketing and convenience.
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Jengie jon
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Originally posted by Zach82:
Whot, "When Israel was in Egypt-land, let my people go?"
No, that's not it (although there was certainly a song with "and Moses said 'let my people go!'" as a refrain). The thing I'm thinking of was definitely aimed specifically at children.
This is a long shot and based on right time rather than an actual recall. It is not something from Pharaoh to Freedom? If it were I would put it as either the first song (Pharaoh to Freedom) or Let's all go.
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Originally posted by no prophet:
Why are the windows in all automobiles electric and there are no longer any manual, roll them down with a circular lever knob thing windows like they were in the olden days of 10-15 years ago?
[SMUG] My 2006 Citroen C1 - 63mpg, 99g/km emissions - has manual windows, manual door and boot locking, manual more or less everything. And it costs me £20 a year to tax. [/SMUG]
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Leorning Cniht
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Originally posted by Jengie Jon:
It is not something from Pharaoh to Freedom?
No, that's not it. My memory has dredged up another song:
Moses saw a bush in the desert / That burned with steady flame / And the voice that spoke from the burning bush / was calling out his name
Google seems to find someone else who remembers the song/play, but nothing more authoritative.
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Originally posted by no prophet:
... the passenger side electric window has ceased to do anything but roll down...
I've had similar problems, and have usually been able to get the window back up by pressing a hand on it from each side and pulling it back up. Of course, that doesn't help if it has retracted all the way inside the door: sticking a large suction cup on it might prevent it from doing so.
One way to protect the button is to tape a plastic case or cap of some sort over it. Most controls in a car have plug connectors, so if you can get to the backside of it you may be able to unplug a wire and disable the switch. Otherwise check your fuse block to see if there are separate fuses for the LEFT/RIGHT side windows, allowing you to disable the passenger side while keeping the driver side window operable.
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Originally posted by no prophet:
I write this as the passenger side electric window has ceased to do anything but roll down, and it is winter here. It seems like useless and preferably optional technology to me. You can get them up if you take the door apart, and then you must refrain from touching the down side of the rocker button. My second question is how to get myself and everyone else trained to not touch the window button for that window until we can get it fixed! (-22°C yesterday, near freezing today, but you may get the urgency and annoyance about it!)
that happened with the back window of my blazer at -40 once. drove 200 miles south before it was warm enough to work again.
I have no answer for you. it sucked.
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Lamb Chopped
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We had the same problem too. My husband took the inner door cover off and wedged a piece of wood into the workings. That made it physically impossible for the bloody thing to come down any further than about 1/2 an inch.
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