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Albertus
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Perhaps it is generally known, among blind people, where you are most likely to find Braille messages. I am sure that we all have similar pieces of tacit knowledge of which, just because they are tacit, we are not consciously aware- and if anyone asked us about them, we'd just say 'oh, everyone knows that, don't they?'
As for the Braille plaque in NEQ's post, I suspect that that was more to do with the donor of the plaque, or the person commemorated there, than with providing a service for blind theatregoers- just as one might place an inscription in a langauge spoken by the donor or the person commemorated, although few people seeing it would understand it.
[ 15. June 2015, 08:38: Message edited by: Albertus ]
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BroJames
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Originally posted by Pigwidgeon:
I've wondered about Braille keypads on drive-through Automated Teller Machines.
![[Confused]](confused.gif)
Obviously for blind drivers ![[Cool]](cool.gif)
More prosaically, probably a standard keypad used in multiple locations, for some of which braille is appropriate.
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Heavenly Anarchist
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Very few visually impaired people actually know braille anyway. It's very hard for older people to learn and generally is something that would be taught at school. But schools will only teach those who are completely blind, which is a small minority, most visually impaired people have some vision. My twin has been visually impaired since birth and went to a boarding school for the blind and I know more braille than him. These days of computers have made braille even rarer.
At one hospital I worked at they had 100 braille copies printed of a document about patient rights, huge things they were. They never had a single one requested and then shifted them on to my eye clinic, where they gathered more dust. Audio tapes would have been far more use and taken up less room.
Audio descriptions are generally more useful in lifts, but those people who do know braille will know the likely places to find braille instructions.
John Hull, a visually impaired lecturer who does read braille, tells a lovely story of reading to his child before bed. After a while the child quietly asks if he would mind switching the light on as, unlike him, s/he cannot read in the dark.
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Originally posted by Heavenly Anarchist:
John Hull, a visually impaired lecturer who does read braille, tells a lovely story of reading to his child before bed. After a while the child quietly asks if he would mind switching the light on as, unlike him, s/he cannot read in the dark.
There is a story about Helen Keller as a child. Annie Sullivan caught her with a Braille book under the covers after she had gone to bed. She explained that the book was afraid of the dark.
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Pigwidgeon
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A number of years ago I was impressed by a young woman (with a beautiful voice!) who was singing with an ensemble as well as a soloist -- I noticed that she was running her hands across her sheet music rather than reading it. So I looked into braille music when I got home and discovered that it's a very involved process to publish, but incredibly involved to read, especially if one is trying to follow the other singers' parts as well as one's own.
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There was a blind gentleman in the Cathedral congregation (sadly now deceased) who was one of the lesson readers; his wife used to lead him up to the lectern, and he read the lesson from Braille.
eta: It's amazing how many very accomplished organists have been blind, and all the more so when you consider that, unlike other instruments, no two organs are the same.
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Penny S
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This is probably not a heavenly subject. There have appeared in South London a spate of small posters, about A3 landscape, carrying a picture of a raccoon (or possibly a raccoon dog) and the words "You are not the chosen people" with the word Washfeet in small print at the bottom.
Does anyone know who we should be fingering to the powers that be about this? And why raccoons?
I have searched. There seem to be some nasty "churches" out there, but nothing that quite ties up with these posters.
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Pigwidgeon
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Raccoons have a reputation for "washing" their food before eating it (I believe they actually just like the feel of playing with it in the water), so that may be why they're used for the posters.
I'm wondering if the "Washfeet" has something to do with the Moslem ritual foot washing (Wudu)?
Very puzzling...
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Ariel
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Originally posted by Penny S:
This is probably not a heavenly subject. There have appeared in South London a spate of small posters, about A3 landscape, carrying a picture of a raccoon (or possibly a raccoon dog) and the words "You are not the chosen people" with the word Washfeet in small print at the bottom.
How bizarre. Is that literally all they say?
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Firenze
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Foot washing is also a Christian ritual - albeit mainly confined to Popes these days. And maybe it's not a racoon but a rock badger (as featured in Leviticus). So either it is someone claiming to be the One True Israel - or flyers for an indie band/rave venue/or some other cool urban happening that nobody over the age of 23 would understand.
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Penny S
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That is all. And my mind did go towards Wudu. It's even more bizarre since the area doesn't have a large Muslim community, though there are some, not very obvious, there; nor a large Jewish community, though there are some, not very obvious, there; and, as far as I know, absolutely no raccoons.
The lack of obviousness is due to dress being not outstandingly linked to any particular form of religious group. Just a few headscarves.
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Penny S
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Originally posted by Firenze:
Foot washing is also a Christian ritual - albeit mainly confined to Popes these days. And maybe it's not a racoon but a rock badger (as featured in Leviticus). So either it is someone claiming to be the One True Israel - or flyers for an indie band/rave venue/or some other cool urban happening that nobody over the age of 23 would understand.
They aren't posted in the usual place for music events, which are on street furniture close to road junctions, and usually A3 portrait, and giving dates, places, and times.
Definitely not rock badgers. Also not raccoon dogs. definitely raccoons.
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Brenda Clough
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You have tried putting the phrase into google? If nothing useful kicks up, then someone is wasting their time and money. There is no point in advertising something that nobody can find.
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WashFeet has a Twitter account, not that it's done very much, but the account says the aims are:
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Challenging Christians to do Less Politicking and More Feet Washing
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Firenze
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By littering the neighbourhood with cryptic flyers? That'll bring in the Kingdom no problem.
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Originally posted by Firenze:
Foot washing is also a Christian ritual - albeit mainly confined to Popes these days.
Unless the Pope is doing a lot more foot-washing than I'm aware of, that's not so. While the rite is optional, most Catholic parishes do it once a year. SDAs doing it before every communion.
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Ariel
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Originally posted by Firenze:
By littering the neighbourhood with cryptic flyers? That'll bring in the Kingdom no problem.
"Less Lust by Less Protein."
Cryptic flyers and eccentric placards are a fine old British tradition.
"Meat Fish Bird Egg Cheese Peas Beans Nuts and Sitting."
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L'organist
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Aah, Stanley Green.
Don't forget the final "and sitting" at the end of the list of dangerous proteins. ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif)
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Originally posted by Adam.:
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Originally posted by Firenze:
Foot washing is also a Christian ritual - albeit mainly confined to Popes these days.
Unless the Pope is doing a lot more foot-washing than I'm aware of, that's not so. While the rite is optional, most Catholic parishes do it once a year.
A lot of Anglicans too.
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Brenda Clough
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At our church we have a mass foot-washing every other Maundy Thursday. (The alternating years are Seders.) To this end we have laid in a massive number of towels, all in dark red to match the carpeting. Last year I had to launder them all, is how I know.
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Albertus
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Originally posted by Curiosity killed ...:
WashFeet has a Twitter account, not that it's done very much, but the account says the aims are:
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Challenging Christians to do Less Politicking and More Feet Washing
Politicking as distinct from politics? 'Cos foot washing is political, sure as eggs.
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Penny S
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Naturally I searched - though not google, which I abjure. And all the references to "not the chosen people" - the full phrase did not appear - were from "Christian" groups slagging off the obvious target. I did sort of vaguely refer to those results.
Nothing appeared for washfeet - which had all been in small caps. They don't look likely to be responsible for something so apparently negative.
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Brenda Clough
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I suppose the goal then is 'creating interest' or 'from the grassroots'. They are clearly wasting their money, poor things.
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Wet Kipper
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one for our American cousins.
How long does an game of NFL American Football usually last from start to finish ? I know the "game" lasts for an hour, but with so many stoppages between plays, I imagine it takes considerably longer.
I've got tickets for one of the games at Wembley in October, (starts at 1:30pm) and just trying to see if I will be able to see it all before trying to get across the city for my flight home (the last one which was available at the time)
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Brenda Clough
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Forever, roughly. At the very minimum two hours. And that's assuming it doesn't go into overtime. It would be unkind to bring a book, but bring your cell.
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Originally posted by Wet Kipper:
How long does an game of NFL American Football usually last from start to finish ? I know the "game" lasts for an hour, but with so many stoppages between plays, I imagine it takes considerably longer.
I cannot find stats for 2014, but in 2013 it was roughly 3 hours 10 minutes. While tweaks to the rules might slightly shift that, it is safe to assume it will remain over 3 hours in length.
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Sioni Sais
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Eldest Son plays American Football in one of the British leagues (strictly amateur, but fully kitted out etc). Kick-off is usually 2:30 and matches rarely end before 5:30.
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This is probably a tasteless question but for some reason it has stuck in my mind and I need to know the answer in one of these don't really need to know ways at all.
North Korea has a problem with fertilizer provision. This has been an issue since the fall of the USSR as they were the main providers of fertilizers to North Korea. This is one of the reasons for the terrible famine that killed so many in the late nineties.
As a result the North Koreans collect what is euphemistically called human 'night soil' and spread it on their crops. How come this doesn't cause all sorts of Ecoli type diseases or has mass immunity kicked in?
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Wet Kipper
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THanks all for your help
as discussed, kick off (wembley) is 1:30 pm.
take off (London city airport) is 8:30 pm
I think even if the game lasts 4 hours, I should be able to get to the plane in time.
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Sioni Sais
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Originally posted by chive:
This is probably a tasteless question but for some reason it has stuck in my mind and I need to know the answer in one of these don't really need to know ways at all.
North Korea has a problem with fertilizer provision. This has been an issue since the fall of the USSR as they were the main providers of fertilizers to North Korea. This is one of the reasons for the terrible famine that killed so many in the late nineties.
As a result the North Koreans collect what is euphemistically called human 'night soil' and spread it on their crops. How come this doesn't cause all sorts of Ecoli type diseases or has mass immunity kicked in?
E coli lives in animals, so it's possible that if the North Korean diet is as predominantly vegetarian as I have heard that there isn't much E coli around.
Any animals may well find their way to the tables of the Kim Jong-un and his pals.
eta: after posting, one gets a message ending "Now wash your hands". Back in a minute.
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Two words in the same language with different roots but the same meaning are synonyms.
Two words in different languages, but with the same root and meaning are cognate.
Is there is a word which describes two words in different languages with the same root but different meanings?
E.g. in Scottish Gaelic paisd (toddler) has the same Latin root as page (as in pageboy), and feasgar(evening) has the same Latin root as vespers. They are a mirror image of synonyms (different language, same root, different meaning). They are closer to being cognate (different languages, same root) but they're not cognate because they have different meanings.
What are they?
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BroJames
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I think cognate is still used for words which have the same derivation, even where there is a difference in meaning. It certainly seems apt in the cases you mention where there is a clear semantic link between the different meanings of the cognate words.
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It is interesting how the same source word can have very different trajectories when it's absorbed into two different languages. I also think cognate is fair. I've also heard the term false friend, for two words in two different languages that look similar but have very different meanings. This isn't a diachronic claim about origins, though, but a synchronic claim about the ability for native speakers attempting second language acquisition to get confused. Often, these do arrive from the mechanism you describe, but sometimes it's just chance. For instance, English speakers learning Hebrew often get confused by the word hi_HEB which means she_ENG, not (its homophone), he_ENG.
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I think the English verb ignore meaning disregard, and the French verb ignorer meaning: I don't know, I am unaware, have caused more hurt feelings and misunderstanding in both languages than almost any other word.
Another one is assister which in French means "to be present at" but in English means to help, and also "to help in a secondary way."
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Maybe this would do better on the Eighth day Music board if it happens, but it's been driving me crazy all day.
I'm trying to find a jazz piece that if memory serves, was used as a theme tune on London's Capital Radio in the 1970s for a programme with a female presenter - not a DJ, I don't think, because there don't seem to have been any female DJs back in the day. Does this jog anyone's memory?
Tum ti tum TUM, tum ti tum TUM, tiiii, da da da da...
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Huia
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Yesterday I ate lunch at an upmarket café. I had a dressed salad served in a small deep bowl.
Given that there were long mizuma leaves, what is the least messy was of eating such a concoction. Do you twirl the leaves around the fork like spaghetti or do you tip the salad onto the plate that the bowl is sitting on? (it was a small side plate so it would have to be done in stages).
Given that the whole thing was drowned in dressing it was rather messy. Most of my fellow diners avoided the problem by choosing other items, so they were no help.
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They shouldn't have forced you into that dilemma--there is no reasonable way of eating such a salad gracefully. That's why the kitchen ought to be tearing the leaves up.
But since they're not likely to listen (grrrrrrrrr), your other choices are 1) cut with a knife--good luck on that one! or 2) use your superhuman powers of manipulation to fold each leaf into an accordion that is small enough to be popped into your mouth.
Or number 3, I suppose. Find out who thought this was a good idea and politely dump it over his/her head.
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Originally posted by Lamb Chopped:
Find out who thought this was a good idea and politely dump it over his/her head.
Be sure to do it politely.
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I'm afraid my patience snapped recently when presented with food on a roofing slate.
As the waiter started to put it down in front of me I said very firmly I'm sorry if you think me old-fashioned but would you please take that back to the kitchen and bring it to me on a proper plate. The young waiter looked faintly stunned but did as I asked.
Later, the chef came out and asked me why I'd done it, so I told him if I was being expected to pay decent money for good food I'd prefer for it to be served in a manner commensurate with the price being charged and with the delicacy of the ingredients - I didn't think seared scallops (or anything for that matter) likely to be enhanced by being served on unsealed slate which, with its minute fissures, was likely to constitute a health hazard.
IMO if we are in an establishment paying for food then it should be served to us in a way that makes eating not only possible but, preferably, pleasurable.
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Originally posted by Huia:
Given that there were long mizuma leaves, what is the least messy was of eating such a concoction. Do you twirl the leaves around the fork like spaghetti or do you tip the salad onto the plate that the bowl is sitting on? (it was a small side plate so it would have to be done in stages).
If this was a side salad you'd be fine to take helpings from it and put them on your main plate. If a main course, I'm afraid you're probably expected to eat it out of the bowl, though cutting the leaves to make them manageable sizes and discreetly draining them against the inside of the bowl would also be an option.
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Originally posted by L'organist:
I'm afraid my patience snapped recently when presented with food on a roofing slate.
Quite. Put your foot down before it Goes Too Far.
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Originally posted by Eutychus:
Maybe this would do better on the Eighth day Music board if it happens, but it's been driving me crazy all day.
I'm trying to find a jazz piece that if memory serves, was used as a theme tune on London's Capital Radio in the 1970s for a programme with a female presenter - not a DJ, I don't think, because there don't seem to have been any female DJs back in the day. Does this jog anyone's memory?
Tum ti tum TUM, tum ti tum TUM, tiiii, da da da da...
The human brain is a strange thing. 24 hours later and suddenly, I know: Birdland by Weather Report. The "Tum ti tum TUM" is at 2:00 on. (next challenge: find out which programme used it as a theme tune).
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Just before the outbreak of the Second World War there were individuals bringing German Jews into Britain.
I've just seen the paperwork, dated 25 August 1939, for an application to bring a couple in their 50s to Aberdeen to work as a manservant and housekeeper. The outbreak of the war prevented it, and the couple both died in the Holocaust.
If the application had been made, say, six weeks earlier and had succeeded, what would have happened when the war started? Would they have been immediately interred as enemy aliens?
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Thanks for the food eating ideas. I think I'll order soup next time ![[Smile]](smile.gif)
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Brenda Clough
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Am reading The Brontes, a massive and excellent biography of the literary family by Juliet Barker. And the situation of the patriarch of the family, Patrick Bronte, mystifies me.
He was in charge of the parish of Haworth, and from all accounts seems to have been an excellent priest, overworked and underpaid in the usual way. He never seems to have considered moving up to a better job. Was that impossible, in the day? Did he need qualifications or money that he did not have? He had his MA from Cambridge but no family money or connections.
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He may simply have liked it where he was, or felt that this was where he needed to be/where he could be of more use than a more prosperous parish.
Not everybody is ambitious and keen to move onwards and upwards: the further up the tree you go the more pressurized it usually gets, and the less hands-on your role tends to be. That may have mattered to him.
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Originally posted by Brenda Clough:
Patrick Bronte,
He never seems to have considered moving up to a better job. Was that impossible, in the day?
Being a Christian minister is not a career.
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Originally posted by North East Quine:
Two words in different languages, but with the same root and meaning are cognate.
This would be more correctly expressed as ...'same root and related meaning', which is clearly the case with the examples you give.
One example I give my students is Indo-European *pur/fire, which becomes fuoco in Italian and fuego in Spanish – vowels change but the p and f are both labial consonants, c and g are both velar.(The foyer of a theatre was once the only part that could be heated). Pod/ped and foot share the labials p and f, dental t and d.
Our short course for gifted 12/13 year olds I call 'Joe(seph) Green meets Giuseppe Verdi'
We don't get that technical with the kids, just 'if you make a sound with the same part of your mouth it's related'.
Don't get me started! I hope I'll still be taking a group for a few years yet.
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There are some pastors who choose to spend their lives with a specific group of people they love.
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Er, this is what I've been up to (book).
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From contemporary novel reading and reading church boards listing vicars, weren't parsonage posts often for life? Parson Woodforde (1740-1803) remained at his father's parishes as curate for ten years, and then after failing to be appointed to those parishes, moved via a few other attempts to the church in Norfolk where he served for 27 years. (And by implication his father served there for life too.) Jack Russell the sporting priest only served at Swimbridge,
It's only recently that parsons have been appointed for fixed terms, with possible extension. A local parish priest retired in 2011 having been appointed to that parish in 1959 and the longest serving vicar in the same parish in 2012 had served since 1957.
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Until fairly recently CofE incumbents had parson's freehold: they could only be dismissed for gross misconduct.
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