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L'organist
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My late papa was appointed by a patron, and the whole family had to troop off to be inspected by the patron before he was offered the living.

I think there's something to be said for preserving freehold, but the grounds for removing a priest from a parish - and the mechanism for so doing - should be brought into the modern era.

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Confusing. I suppose there is not a website summarizing the history of how the regs have developed over time. Does this reform process have a name? "Reformation" has been copped by another bunch of people.

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Does anyone have a link to the site which sells Christian/Bible themed colouring in books? Things like psalm-based art and there was one based on the names of God. It was Celtic-based and definitely aimed at adults, but from Googling all I can find is stuff aimed at children.

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Jengie jon

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you mean Lindisfarne Scriptorium?

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quote:
Originally posted by North East Quine:
Two words in the same language with different roots but the same meaning are synonyms.

Two words in different languages, but with the same root and meaning are cognate.

Is there is a word which describes two words in different languages with the same root but different meanings?

E.g. in Scottish Gaelic paisd (toddler) has the same Latin root as page (as in pageboy), and feasgar(evening) has the same Latin root as vespers. They are a mirror image of synonyms (different language, same root, different meaning). They are closer to being cognate (different languages, same root) but they're not cognate because they have different meanings.

What are they?

Not answering the question, but it has reminded me of something which really gave me a start when talking with some Romanian-speaking friends. When we say 'thank you' when somebody does something for us, sometimes the reply 'it was nothing' is appropriate. The Romanian equivalent is 'pentru nimic', which translates as 'for nothing'. So a few times during a conversation in English I remember saying 'thanks', and them replying 'for nothing' and then wondering why I looked confused and slightly offended! It took it happening a couple of times for me to realise what was going on there. Apologies for the (at least vaguely relevant) tangent.

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quote:
Originally posted by Curiosity killed ...:
From contemporary novel reading and reading church boards listing vicars, weren't parsonage posts often for life? ...

It's only recently that parsons have been appointed for fixed terms, with possible extension. A local parish priest retired in 2011 having been appointed to that parish in 1959 and the longest serving vicar in the same parish in 2012 had served since 1957.

AIUI livings, like many offices in the C18/C19, were seen as a form of property- the term 'freehold' is not coincidental. But even under Common Tenure or whatever it's called, isn't it still the case that once you are appointed vicar/ rector rather than 'priest-in-charge' or some similar managerialist abomination, you can stay until you hit the compulsory retirement age of 70, assuming of course good behaviour?
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Pomona, I was going to suggest Lindisfarne Scriptorium also
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Lindisfarne Scriptorium is the one! Thank you - I kept searching for things related to Iona so I was on the right lines!

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Does anyone know anything about leeches? I have been trying to find out if they are more likely to bite some people than others and if so why, but can't find much with an online search.

I went hiking with a group of around 20 hikers today and we saw many land leeches. One man got bitten three times and many other hikers had leeches crawling on them. However none came near me or a few of the other hikers. Thinking about it, I have hiked in the same area before and similar areas lots of times with family members and never even seen a leech. Could myself and my family somehow not be attractive to them?

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Might it be blood sugar levels? I've heard that some people apparently taste sweeter than others (which is why mosquitos also plague some people but not others).
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Mosquitos don't like me much either. I ascribe it to the alcohol level in my blood, which I try to keep at a sustained level at a regular basis [Smile]

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As far as mosquitoes go, there seems to be a difference in populations and their tastes. My husband never gets bitten here (while I get chomped). But he gets bitten at summer camp 100 miles away. I think the ones at camp just have a taste for Vietnamese food.

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When I lived in New Hampshire, I took garlic pills, which repelled mosquitoes and blackflies. Here in southwest Virginia, the pills appear to make no difference.

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I think that garlic is good for your health in any case.

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I do tend to get low blood sugar sometimes, Ariel. Maybe my blood is not tasty enough! I used to get bitten by mozzies more as a child, but only get a few bites now when it is their season. My mum gets bitten a lot, so it is best to stand next to her at outdoor family gatherings.

Animals and who they attack seems to be a theme for me this week. Yesterday I was walking to the bus stop and my neighbour was walking behind me. I have never spoken to this neighbour, but he called out 'excuse me' and then asked if the Australian magpies down a particular street attacked me. He has taken to avoiding that street as they always swoop him.

I felt kind of bad to say they never bother me when I walk that way to the shops or train station. I explained that they do tend to target certain people and once they have picked you as a threat they will quite likely always see you that way. I told him to make eye contact with them as that is supposed to help, but he seemed pretty nervous. I always look at them in a friendly manner and think kind words to them (or talk to them sometimes if there is no one around - they are quite tame), however I was afraid my neighbour might think I was a bit strange if I told him that.

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Has anyone taken the free upgrade to windows 10? Is it less frustrating than 8 and 9 or should I stick like glue to windows 7 on the laptop?

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quote:
Originally posted by AngloCatholicGirl:
Has anyone taken the free upgrade to windows 10? Is it less frustrating than 8 and 9 or should I stick like glue to windows 7 on the laptop?

There's a thread in Hell about Windows 10.

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quote:
Originally posted by AngloCatholicGirl:
Has anyone taken the free upgrade to windows 10? Is it less frustrating than 8 and 9 or should I stick like glue to windows 7 on the laptop?

Read articles by those who have compared them. I would avoid upgrading until close to the end of the free period, regardless. I still use Win 7 as I am concerned about compatibility with some of my programs and am in no hurry to be part of an extended Beta test. BTW, there is no Win 9.

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AngloCatholicGirl

There are also several relevant posts in the 'It's Geek to me...' thread - see here.

I updated my laptop PC from Windows 8 without any serious problems (see my posts on that thread), I think that W10 is an improvement on W8 - not difficult to achieve! I should add that I don't make that much use of my laptop - most of what Mrs TonyK and I do is on our older Windows 7 desktop. I'm not planning to upgrade this PC in the foreseeable future, if at all. Mrs TonyK would admit that she's far from being computer-literate and would probably prefer to stay with what she is used to for as long as possible!

I should also add that there have been remarkably few reports about problems with W 10 since its release, although there have been some large, but apparently not critical, updates.

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Will check that thread out. Thanks!

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no prophet's flag is set so...

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I heard it again. Someone said "beats the BeJesus out of me". Or is it "(b)Jesus" as opposed to (a)Jesus? How bad are oaths like this considered nowadays? I'm thinking not so bad.

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Oxford English Dictionairies have this. And a linguistics discussion board offers further insights.

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An Irish friend on Facebook always spells it "bejaysus", just as it would be pronounced. [Big Grin]

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Precisely. And as used by the Irish it isn't blaspheming or swearing - more like extempore prayer.

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no prophet's flag is set so...

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That's very helpful. It is used as equivalent to "scare the crap out of..." and "beat the crap out of...", which the links help understand. Bejesus (however spelled) seems to have been picked up in southeast Saskatchewan and east to Winnipeg (Manitoba) by the Ukrainian and other folks with heritage from that area of Europe, which is where I was hearing it. Weirdly, "scare/beat the [i]living/i] crap/bejesus" is also said.

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Does sneezing cure hiccups? Or is it commonly thought to?

I ask because Eryximachus claims it does in Plato's Symposium, and the other cures he suggests are all things that are commonly suggested still today, but I'd never heard of that one before.

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Does anyone have any experience of trying to recover a package from Royal Mail when it hasn't been delivered?

They do their best to make people feel it is their fault, in my current experience.

At the place I posted it (with another similar one, which arrived) they claimed it was nothing to do with them once it had been picked up, and they had no forms but sent me to ring up Customer Services. They also said I should have paid for it to be tracked. I had naively imagined that first class for next day delivery was a contract that they would adhere to without extra money.

When I rang Customer Services, I could only listen to a robot, who told me that they simply could not do anything to trace my package, and directed me to a claim form online.

So I filled in the form. I was not able to claim compensation yet as the person I bought it from hadn't given me a receipt. (Nice wood turning workshop in the Faroes, have a look at his lampshades. This was only a small box, not in his gallery.)

I emailed the workshop to see if I could get another, and to see if he could send a receipt.

No answer from anyone yet. It had not been left with the recipient's neighbours. I plan to write to the near Sorting Office here, and to the one near the intended recipient.

It should get back here if not delivered - under the re-use label, well stuck on, was my address, also on the back of the jiffy bag. I have doubts.

Can anyone offer any hope about this? One reads stories about abandoned bags. (And a sister had an empty package from Australia delivered with the customs label itemising a pearl necklace on it. A family heirloom.)

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Adam.: Does sneezing cure hiccups? Or is it commonly thought to?
It seems that for at least for one person, sneezing causes hiccups.

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Aargh! While I was looking for this, I found on different websites that an effective remedy against hiccups is a digital rectal massage. Try this at your own discretion.

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Still better than the old analogue one, isn't it. [Two face]

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quote:
Originally posted by LeRoc:
It seems that for at least for one person, sneezing causes hiccups.

Actually that happened to me just the other day - a sneeze started a fit of hiccups. (Though it normally doesn't - I get sneezing fits fairly often, but haven't had hiccups in a long time.)


I cured the hiccups in my normal way - drinking a glass of water as slowly as possible.

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I haven't had hiccups for ages, but I used to drink water from the other side of the glass to stop them.
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quote:
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I haven't had hiccups for ages, but I used to drink water from the other side of the glass to stop them.

That was my technique also.

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quote:
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I haven't had hiccups for ages, but I used to drink water from the other side of the glass to stop them.

Our family remedy was to hold your breath as long as possible.

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quote:
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quote:
Originally posted by Penny S:
I haven't had hiccups for ages, but I used to drink water from the other side of the glass to stop them.

That was my technique also.

Moo

Me too, but this causes derision amongst my 'new' family who haven't heard of this before! But the bending over while sipping the water does seem to help.

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I suspect that if I tried that I'd just end up getting very damp. Holding my breath and counting to 10 usually does the trick for me.

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My sister used to get them very badly. Her trick was to swallow a teaspoonful of sugar in one mouthful from the spoon. No chewing, not little bits at a time. Just a mouthful straight down. It is not easy. I think that anything which breaks the current breathing cycle is a help.

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Upside-down drinking nearly always worked for me. The trouble is, it sort of break office decorum and can result in a soggy tie.

The other trick that works for some people is very spicy food. i.e. something at least the strength of a madras curry.

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quote:
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My sister used to get them very badly. Her trick was to swallow a teaspoonful of sugar in one mouthful from the spoon. No chewing, not little bits at a time. Just a mouthful straight down. It is not easy. I think that anything which breaks the current breathing cycle is a help.

Honey. Easier to swallow, accomplishes the same thing.

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Now that we're talking about it, does anyone have an explanation of why I always sneeze exactly twice?

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quote:
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Now that we're talking about it, does anyone have an explanation of why I always sneeze exactly twice?

Because you are allergic to an isolated sneeze.

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quote:
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... something at least the strength of a madras curry.

It would have to be a marathon attack of the hiccups to last until you could make a curry (or even order a takeaway)... [Eek!] [Big Grin]

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Now that we're talking about it, does anyone have an explanation of why I always sneeze exactly twice?

Because you are allergic to an isolated sneeze.
Nice one [Smile]

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Originally posted by Lothlorien:
My sister used to get them very badly. Her trick was to swallow a teaspoonful of sugar in one mouthful from the spoon. No chewing, not little bits at a time. Just a mouthful straight down. It is not easy. I think that anything which breaks the current breathing cycle is a help.

Honey. Easier to swallow, accomplishes the same thing.
Drinking liquid from a glass or through a straw also works, as long as you drink, drink, drink, drink and disrupt your breathing cycle.

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Originally posted by Sipech:
... something at least the strength of a madras curry.

It would have to be a marathon attack of the hiccups to last until you could make a curry (or even order a takeaway)... [Eek!] [Big Grin]
The world record is currently held by an American who hiccupped for 68 years. All the way from 1922 until 1990. He died a year later.
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Ariel: The world record is currently held by an American who hiccupped for 68 years. All the way from 1922 until 1990. He died a year later.
So his final year was hiccup-free?

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Yes, he had to wait until he was 97, but he got there in the end.
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Ariel: Yes, he had to wait until he was 97, but he got there in the end.
I'd be interested to know what his cure was.

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It just sort of stopped apparently. They never found out why.
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Ariel: It just sort of stopped apparently. They never found out why.
That must have been something. Suddenly after 68 years you're out of hiccups.

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