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What If...
Smarter-than-average, Canadian-made rom-com starring Daniel Radcliffe and Zoe Kazan as platonic friends dancing around the edges of becoming more than that.
Maybe because it was produced at an arm's length from the Hollywood Dream Factory, it has fuller characterizations and more clever dialogue. Though I am not an expert on how twentysomethings talk and act these days, I suspect it probably captured the generational zeitgeist pretty realistically.
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quote: Originally posted by leo: Superman - given that it was made so long ago, the special effects are very advanced.
I remember going to see that with my father, who had seen Star Wars, and my mother, who hadn't. Mom was pretty adamant that the special-effects were brilliant, my dad, considerably less so. My father opined to my mother that she would not be that impressed with Superman had she seen Star Wars.
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quote: Originally posted by Stetson: What If...
Smarter-than-average, Canadian-made rom-com starring Daniel Radcliffe and Zoe Kazan as platonic friends dancing around the edges of becoming more than that.
Maybe because it was produced at an arm's length from the Hollywood Dream Factory, it has fuller characterizations and more clever dialogue. Though I am not an expert on how twentysomethings talk and act these days, I suspect it probably captured the generational zeitgeist pretty realistically.
Zoe Kazan is a treasure. I saw the trailer and Adam Driver is in it, too-- he's a guy to watch, too.
I am in the middle of watching "Unfriended" and I have to say, seeing a horror film generated from the mundane internet stuff you see everyday is really unsettling. Nothing really bad has happened yet, a I am still freaked out.
Also, it's fun to be watching a haunted internet movie and have the page start having freaky loading issues...thank you, computer, for adding to my viewing experience.
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Stetson
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Kelly wrote:
quote: Also, it's fun to be watching a haunted internet movie and have the page start having freaky loading issues...thank you, computer, for adding to my viewing experience.
Hm. I never considered that angle. I don't own a computer myself, and watched the film on a big-screen TV at a "DVD Room"(where you rent films amd watch them on-site). But, thinking about it, yeah, I'd imagine it does add to the experience.
Given the way films are watched these days, I'd imagine that the filmakers took into account that lots of people would be watching it on a computer. [ 03. November 2015, 15:05: Message edited by: Stetson ]
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The Rewrite. Fairly standard Hugh Grant rom-com, with Grant doing a broad reprisal of his slightly over-the-hill, semi-roguish entertainment figure finding love. If you liked About A Boy and Music With Lyrics, you might wanna check this out.
A few well-drawn vignettes of university life, albeit with some fairly easy shots at campus political correctness.
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I couldn't suspend my disbelief in the way police work was handled in "Secret in Their Eyes". I watch "The First 48" quite a bit and from it my understanding of homicide investigation kept me from investing in the story where the law enforcement characters played pretty fast and loose with evidence gathering even for a movie. I also remember seeing the original Argentinian film which was much better as I recall. And since I don't know police procedure in that culture, anything iffy (and not much was) I slid over without a problem. The acting in this production was quite good, however.
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Kill Your Darlings - Allen Ginsberg as a young man and the influences upon him. [ 02. December 2015, 13:28: Message edited by: leo ]
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quote: Originally posted by leo: Kill Your Darlings - Allen Ginsberg as a young man and the influences upon him.
My favorite scene in that film was when, after all they go through with the legal problems etc, Burroughs' father shows up to bail him out, orders him back home, and Bill replies with a sheepish "Yes, sir".
Pretty funny, if you know anything about Burroughs subsequent image as a the ultimate rebel. (In fairness, an image cultivated more by his fans than by Burroughs himself, who could actually be fairly modest and unassuming.)
And quite the contrast with Ben Foster's earlier role in Alpha Dog! [ 03. December 2015, 15:04: Message edited by: Stetson ]
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I went to see "Brooklyn". A charming romance about an immigrant from Ireland to New York who has to decide where home would really be for her. Amazingly gentle and innocent.
(So, no, nothing "blowed up real good" in this movie. Gotta wait for "Star Wars".)
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I finally went to see Spectre as a b***hday treat. Saw it in I-Max too!
Blimey, it was loud. Even though wearing ear-plugs I still needed paracetamol to deaden the pain when I got home.
Good film though, despite Daniel Craig thinking that acting consists of narrowing his eyes and wearing a suit so ludicrously tight it reminded me of Tom Kitten
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I've just got an extra tick on my geek credentials. Have booked a ticket to see the showing of the new Star Wars film at 1 minute past midnight next Wednesday night/Thursday morning.
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Welease Woderwick
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Last night I watched Holes a kids movie by Disney and tonight I watched the Googie Gomez spectacular The Ritz with Rita Moreno portraying her alter ego - the movie is 40 years old next year and still very funny. Forget the plot - Googie is worth it every time!
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I just got done seeing Frances Ha, which was nominated for just about everything in the Independent Spirit Awards the year it came out-- made a mental note to see it and never did.
It was wonderful.
Seriously, it reminded me of the good old days of independent film, when you would sit back and watch a Jim Jarmusch film and not know what was coming. It is authentic, organic, and nuanced-- a deep character study of a 2o something would-be professional dancer who is floundering in her career, her romantic life, and her living arrangements. The core of the story revolves around her trying to find her way after having lost her one centering feature-- her best friend moves out of their shared apartment to a fancier one .
The titular Frances is a glorious hot mess, but despite her accumulation of mistakes she is still easy to love.
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quote: Originally posted by Sipech: I've just got an extra tick on my geek credentials. Have booked a ticket to see the showing of the new Star Wars film at 1 minute past midnight next Wednesday night/Thursday morning.
Not quite as geeky, I'm seeing it early in the evening on Thursday! When I had fewer gray hairs, I would go to the midnight showings.
Four more days!
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quote: Originally posted by Kelly Alves: I just got done seeing Frances Ha, which was nominated for just about everything in the Independent Spirit Awards the year it came out-- made a mental note to see it and never did.
It was wonderful.
Seriously, it reminded me of the good old days of independent film, when you would sit back and watch a Jim Jarmusch film and not know what was coming. It is authentic, organic, and nuanced-- a deep character study of a 2o something would-be professional dancer who is floundering in her career, her romantic life, and her living arrangements. The core of the story revolves around her trying to find her way after having lost her one centering feature-- her best friend moves out of their shared apartment to a fancier one .
The titular Frances is a glorious hot mess, but despite her accumulation of mistakes she is still easy to love.
I think the part I liked best was when she flies to Paris, and doesn't do much of anything. It's even implied that she didn't bother to walk a few blocks to see the Eiffel.
I guess I liked that, 'cuz it's basically the way I travel. Spent a week in San Francisco in the 90s, never once saw the Golden Gate Bridge or Alcatraz.
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I think I post this every year, but bear with me. I just finished my annual viewing of the original Miracle on 34th Street (1947). Accept no substitutes.
The casting of this movie is incredible. Maureen O'Hara (who died this past year) as practical non-nonsense Doris. John Payne as the intelligent but idealistic attorney Fred. Edmund Gwenn simply IS Kris Kringle. The right height, the right girth, the right beard. Natalie Wood is wonderful as little Susan--avoiding the trap of being the overly precocious child that Hollywood tends to show us, she comes across as a real child, with just the right amount of both credulity and disbelief.
But the amazing thing is the bit players who are so perfectly cast. The "Drunk Santa" (Percy Helton) that Kringle replaces in the parade (somewhat reluctantly, after explaining to Doris "I am not in the habit of substituting for spurious Santa Clauses!"). The little Dutch girl (Marlene Lyden) who, while rattling on in Dutch, turns and gives a look of pure love toward her adopted mother (Mary Field). Lela Bliss' great comic turn as the drunk Mrs. Shellhammer. The granddaughter (Patty Smith) of Judge Harper (Gene Lockhart) gives one of the best "hmph!" you will ever hear. William Frawley as the judge's campaign manager....
You get the idea. Everybody nails their respective parts perfectly, even the child actors. I love this film.
Oddly, when this movie was first released, it was not a "holiday" movie: it was released on May 2, 1947--not exactly when you'd expect a movie about Santa Claus.
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Kelly Alves
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quote: Originally posted by Stetson: I think the part I liked best was when she flies to Paris, and doesn't do much of anything. It's even implied that she didn't bother to walk a few blocks to see the Eiffel.
I guess I liked that, 'cuz it's basically the way I travel. Spent a week in San Francisco in the 90s, never once saw the Golden Gate Bridge or Alcatraz.
Usually it's the locals around here who avoid seeing the major landmarks until well into middle age.
( And screw rhe bridge-- Castro Theater, dude!)
As for the Paris scene--I walked out to fill my tea mug and walked back in and in that time missed the entire Paris scene. That's how eventful it was. I actually thought she was making the trip up until she started griping about the bill.
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quote: Originally posted by Stetson: FINALLY saw Singin' In The Rain, about 30 years after my parents tried unsuccessfully to cajole me into watching it on TV. As far as any social insights went, I did find myself reflecting upon what an upheavel the transition from silent to sound must have been for the film industry. In the scene where all the Hollywood stars and execs gathered at the party watch a sample of a talking picture, you have to think that impending unemployment was on the minds of a lot of them. Not that this issue was unique to that time, place, or industry.
Absolutely the best use of B & W transitioning to colour and arguably the finest musical of the second half of the 20th century as 42nd Street is the best of the first half. Gene is the most athletic danseur and most manly ever....
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Here's a suggestion. With the new Star Wars film out this week, would folk be up for a separate thread where we can discuss it once we've seen it?
It would, therefore contain spoilers, but we could keep these separate from the main film thread.
Or is just me & Jedijudi who are interested?
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I know of another who is interested in a separate thread for the new movie. (Three days!!!!!)
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Kelly Alves wrote:
quote: As for the Paris scene--I walked out to fill my tea mug and walked back in and in that time missed the entire Paris scene. That's how eventful it was. I actually thought she was making the trip up until she started griping about the bill.
I'm not sure if this is the entirety of it, but pretty close.
In addition the the character herself, I guess it's also kinda cool to see a writer/director purposely not genuflecting to the alleged charisma of a great city.
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quote: Originally posted by Sir Kevin:
and arguably the finest musical of the second half of the 20th century as 42nd Street is the best of the first half. [/QB]
Well, your post, combined with that movie's somewhat idiosyncratic availability at my local DVD room, has got me intrigued. I might check out 42nd Street this weekend, if nothing else comes available.
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Kelly Alves
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quote: Originally posted by Stetson: Kelly Alves wrote:
quote: As for the Paris scene--I walked out to fill my tea mug and walked back in and in that time missed the entire Paris scene. That's how eventful it was. I actually thought she was making the trip up until she started griping about the bill.
I'm not sure if this is the entirety of it, but pretty close.
In addition the the character herself, I guess it's also kinda cool to see a writer/director purposely not genuflecting to the alleged charisma of a great city.
Ha! I remember hearing "Everyone's a Winner" from the other room and thinking, cool soundtrack choice.
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Frances Ha is a hot mess. For me it was enlivened by the music which was the same as the movie "King of Hearts".
I'm convinced that Singing in the Rain is the musical of the Buster Keaton short the Cameraman which he made at MGM and which was an in house training film. Another fun fact is that Debbie Reynolds didn't have time to train to sing the songs she was supposed to be backing. So they put in an uncredited cover singer; Jean Hagen.
I just saw "Brooklyn" about an Irish girl immigrating to Brooklyn in the early part of the twentieth century. A slow film with lots of room for the actors to have fun.
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Today I discovered I'd missed a call from a local courier company so popped into their office on my way to the supermarket and collected a package which turned out to be a movie recommended by a Passing Penguin - The Princess Bride.
It was fun and silly but I think I'll have to watch it again some time in the future so I remember the various awful one-liners. Not the greatest movie ever made, by any means, but worth keeping.
eta: It's time I watched Citizen Kane again, which probably is the greatest movie ever made. [ 18. December 2015, 11:40: Message edited by: Welease Woderwick ]
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The book's good. I'm wondering where my copy is.
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The courier called again today - Mr Holmes has arrived at last! I then came home and have just finished watching it.
Adipoli! That is Malayalam for Wonderful! What an excellent movie, superbly acted, superbly scripted, superbly photographed and that lovely shift in the music in the final scene when it transitions into the major key!
Brilliant, well worth the wait. I'll watch it again tonight or tomorrow, it's that good.
I notice that someone on IMDb.com classed it as a yawnfest - whoever said that has no soul!
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I went to the cinema to see Mr Holmes, and I loved it. Absolutely wonderful.
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Isn't Ian McKellen wonderful in it? You can see Holmes's mind fading in and out in his eyes. A friend of mind noted that the impulse to shout at him, "Stick with it, Sherlock! Don't slip!" was almost irresistible.
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Last night, lying in bed and still completely awestruck by the movie I realised that in a [very strange] way it reminded me of The Lion in Winter with Peter O'Toole and Katherine Hepburn - no similarities except the absolutely bravura performances!
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Also: neither movie is about young people. They are about maturity, about age and the power and problems age offers.
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La famille Belier is formulaic but very enjoyable.
It has apparently copped a bit of flak from deaf people.
The biggest problem for us was the willing suspension of disbelief when the star, who is 18 in real life and looks it, has her first period.
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quote: Originally posted by Welease Woderwick: Today I discovered I'd missed a call from a local courier company so popped into their office on my way to the supermarket and collected a package which turned out to be a movie recommended by a Passing Penguin - The Princess Bride.
It was fun and silly but I think I'll have to watch it again some time in the future so I remember the various awful one-liners. Not the greatest movie ever made, by any means, but worth keeping.
eta: It's time I watched Citizen Kane again, which probably is the greatest movie ever made.
Excellent - can't decide whether I am more pleased that you have finally watched the Princess Bride or that you did as you were told in so doing.
It IS silly, but it's immense fun, and eminently quotable.
Meanwhile tonight the boy and I have been to see the film . Wonderful!
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Fear is a great motivator!
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Welease Woderwick
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I watched Mr Holmes again today and was all awestruck by it second time around - if it were at the opera I'd be flinging flowers on to the stage.
...but no solutions are really offered to the moral dilemma, or are they? To be honest is good, but is it trumped by the requirement to be kind?
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What fascinates me about Holmes is that (although the author carefully never put it there) we instinctively demand an emotional connection from him. A famously unemotional man is made to have emotion, to fall in love, to feel. Why? Why can we not bear the idea of Holmes as a calculating machine? It is the one renovation that is always made, through all the reboots and redos and unauthorized sequels.
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quote: Originally posted by Brenda Clough: What fascinates me about Holmes is that (although the author carefully never put it there) we instinctively demand an emotional connection from him. A famously unemotional man is made to have emotion, to fall in love, to feel. Why? Why can we not bear the idea of Holmes as a calculating machine? It is the one renovation that is always made, through all the reboots and redos and unauthorized sequels.
It might have more to do with Hollywood(for which you can read pop culture generally) than with any specific desire to infuse Holmes with emotion. Audiences tend to like stories to have a bit of sappiness in them.
There are quite a few other cases of romance being tossed into a story from which it had been entirely absent in the original. One of the more famous versions of Dr. Jekyll And Mr. Hyde has Jekyll with a girlfriend, whom he unsuccessfully tries to protect from Hyde. The book, by contrast, has no such plotline, and in fact, it seems to me that the absence of prominent female characters is an important part of the story's moral atmosphere.
Back to Holmes for a sec, the movies jiggle with him in numerous ways. For example, in Murder By Decree, in which Freemasonry plays a key role, Holmes at one point informs Watson that he has, in the past, made extensive studies of the Lodge. Whereas, I don't think Conan Doyle usually portrays Holmes' interests as delving too far outside of pure science, does he?
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Conan Doyle wrote about the Freemasons in one of the short stories. I can't remember which, but I have never read the spin offs. It's years since I read any of them.
For romance, what about Irene Adler, The Study in Scarlet and the story of the young lad with a hidden wife. Then there's Watson's romanticism and inconsistent wife/wives.
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Yes, it could be argued that all the emotional life is spun off onto Watson, leaving Holmes as the pure intellect. An interesting parallel to Jekyll and Hyde, which dates from the same period. The Victgorians/Edwardians spent a lot of time wrestling with the dichotomy between flesh and spirit, heart and head. It is significant that they were unanimous in believing that the head/spirit was clearly superior. Flesh and heart had more fun, but were lesser. We moderns prefer a blend of the two, and we complain when we don't get it. Which could explain our rewrites of Holmes -- we make him into a modern figure.
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quote: Originally posted by Curiosity killed ...:
For romance, what about Irene Adler, The Study in Scarlet and the story of the young lad with a hidden wife. Then there's Watson's romanticism and inconsistent wife/wives.
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quote: Originally posted by Curiosity killed ...: Conan Doyle wrote about the Freemasons in one of the short stories. I can't remember which, but I have never read the spin offs. It's years since I read any of them.
But does the story indicate that Holmes had been studying the Masons extensively, apart from his involvement with the case? That's what's stated in Murder By Decree, Holmes stumbles upon some masonic clues in the Ripper case, and immediately starts dazzling Watson with his knowledege of the symbolism, which he claims to have learned through personal study.
In that one, Holmes also gets in a few action scenes, which I suspect is also a departure from Conan Doyle.
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On the Freemason issue, there is an interesting discussion in this article from "The Chattanoogan" (Chattanooga's source for local news--always the first place to go when looking up English detectives and freemasonry...).
As for Holmes being emotion-free, there is that nice bit in "The Three Garridebs" when he thinks Watson has been injured and the emotionless mask slips:
quote: 'You're not hurt, Watson? For God's sake, say that you are not hurt!'
It was worth a wound -- it was worth many wounds -- to know the depth of loyalty and love which lay behind that cold mask. The clear, hard eyes were dimmed for a moment, and the firm lips were shaking. For the one and only time I caught a glimpse of a great heart as well as of a great brain.
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quote: Originally posted by Hedgehog: On the Freemason issue, there is an interesting discussion in this article from "The Chattanoogan" (Chattanooga's source for local news--always the first place to go when looking up English detectives and freemasonry...).
Umm, interesting. But is there a context for this? Did someone else in the Chattanoogan write an article with an incorrect portrayal of masonic symbolism, and Ms. Baker figured she'd reply in short-story form, just for the helluvit? [ 25. December 2015, 15:39: Message edited by: Stetson ]
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quote: Originally posted by Stetson: Umm, interesting. But is there a context for this? Did someone else in the Chattanoogan write an article with an incorrect portrayal of masonic symbolism, and Ms. Baker figured she'd reply in short-story form, just for the helluvit?
Actually, Jody Baker was male. And he died this past February. But he loved the Holmes stories and frequently sent in columns to the Chattanoogan on whatever interested him at the time. He always wrote the columns as if they were written by "Inspector Baynes." There probably was an explanation for that once upon a time, but I don't know it.
So, no, I don't think there is any context other than the subject matter of Holmes and Holmes' knowledge of Freemasons struck his fancy.
Back on the thread topic, one of my Christmas gifts this year is a DVD of William Gillette's Sherlock Holmes (1916). What is remarkable is that it exists. Gillette was a stage actor who, in 1898-99, wrote a stage play about Holmes...more or less with Doyle's blessing. At one point, Gillette cabled Doyle to ask if he might "marry Holmes"--to which Doyle, heartily sick of his creation by this time, responded that Gillette could marry him or murder him or do whatever he liked with him.
The stage play was a hit and made Gillette's reputation. He performed the play some 1,300 times by 1916 and the popular imagination of Holmes was influenced by his portrayal--in fact, the image of Holmes with a curved pipe is purely because of Gillette (who found he could speak his lines easier with a curved pipe than a straight one).
So this film follows the stage play very closely. It uses many of the same stage actors as regularly did the play. It is the one and only film that Gillette ever made, playing a part he was very comfortable in. That is the hook for getting this DVD--the only chance to see a great stage actor playing his most famous part.
The plot is the same as the stage play (and would be used again about six years later when John Barrymore did his version of Sherlock Holmes. What is odd is that, while the Gillette film is more than just a filming of a stage play (there are both exterior and interior shots and massive sets), yet they kept bits that were a bit of stagecraft. For example, early on, Holmes leaves Baker Street and we see Watson, go to a book case, carefully select a book, settle down in a comfy chair and open the book to begin reading. Why? Well, no reason really. It is in the play to allow Gillette time to make a costume change before the next scene--but there is no point to doing that in a film. Yet the Watson scene is still there in the film.
Mind you, Watson doesn't have much to do in the film, so nice of them to keep it in for him.
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Just viewed The Big Short. Higgly recommend it. It is a film about the financial collapse. I will say no more to avoid spoilers beyond there well written with some very good performances.
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Our church has a small social film group, in which we all (usually about a dozen of us) go to a particular film each month - at the cinema of course! - and then gather for cakes , and cocoa or wine afterward. The leader picks the films from what's on offer; she usually picks films slightly on the arty side of mainstream, on the grounds that we'd probably all see James Bond, Star Wars etc anyway.
Our last three were:
The Dressmaker. Comedy-drama about a woman (Kate Winslet) who returns to the very small Australian town from which she was driven out a few years earlier. Lots of laughs early as it proceeds to a denouement in which she gets engaged to another outsider in the village. Hollywood would have stopped there, but Australian film-makers love a quirky twist, so he dies in a silly accident, and she takes her revenge for past wrongs in another way. Suffice it to say that her dressmaking skills are a key part of how she conquers the town's harridans. Recommended.
Phoenix. German film about a woman who survives a concentration camp and returns home (to Berlin in 1946) only to find that her husband doesn't recognise her. Instead, thinking she is someone else , he gets her to pretend that she is the long-lost wife, so that he (through her)can claim a legacy that has come her way. Intriguing , with a brilliant twist at the end.
Carol. Critically acclaimed with Cate Blanchett starring as a New York lesbian in the 1950s. In one word: boring. So painfully slow that I walked out and others in the cinema were snoring. Might have been watchable if it had been editted down from 2 hours to 30 minutes, but as it is, a waste of good acting talent.
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I had a Series 7 back in the 1980s but I was more successful as a day-trader a few years earlier. I was rubbish as a stockbroker and supported myself before I was married as a day trader!
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