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The Seattle Gay Film Festival has started a not very inspired schedule.
Today I saw a collection of shorts, several of which were fun including a translation of Cinderella to a Leather Bar and one called "The Disgustings" about two viscious queens.
The feature film I saw was "Black Bird" based on a YA novel about a black kid being raised in a religious family fighting his feelings of being gay. It had some good acting, but I didn't like the way the 20 year old book was updated with some side soap opera about an abducted sister. It did show the pain of finding your way being raised in a traditional devout family.
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Today I saw a collection of shorts, several of which were fun including a translation of Cinderella to a Leather Bar
OMG can you tell me the title of this? I MUST see it!!
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'There will be blood' about a ruthless man drilling for oil, conning local populations to part with their land and covering his greed with a veneer of religiosity.
Ah! A current documentary.
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Welease Woderwick
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I've just watched Midnight in Paris again - I have never been to Paris and now I probably never shall but the film shows it in a lovely light. It's a great cast, too - the star for me is Kathy Bates as Gertrude Stein.
First movie I've watched for ages which is silly as I have about 100 of my favourites in arm's reach from where I sit here.
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I've just watched Midnight in Paris again - I have never been to Paris and now I probably never shall but the film shows it in a lovely light. It's a great cast, too - the star for me is Kathy Bates as Gertrude Stein.
First movie I've watched for ages which is silly as I have about 100 of my favourites in arm's reach from where I sit here.
An excellent film. I run a film night at church every so often, and I showed this recently, and it was much enjoyed.
My daughter recommended something the other week ('mum, you should show this at your film night!'), so I bought it: Stuart: a life backwards, with Benedict Cumberbatch and Tom Hardy, a true story of the friendship between a writer and an alcoholic drug addict. Sounds grim, but it was very good, funny at times, and both actors were excellent.
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To me the best part of Midnight in Paris was Owen Wilson channeling the neurotic Woody Allen character.
I saw a film called "Match" at the gay film festival tonight. It was a three hander with Patrick Stewart as a Gay Dance Instructor who has a couple show up and ask questions about his past. It was a pretty good acting exercise.
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Watched Trainspotting for maybe the third or fourth time, and confirmed my long-held opinion that the script fails to discipline itself within the parameters set by the characters and milieu.
Specifically, it purports to be giving us an unflinching look at the heartless desperation of junkie life, but insists on imbuing its characters with a culturally-savvy hispter edge that doesn't quite fit the premise.
Example: These people sit around debating the finer points of early 60s Bond films, but are otherwise too strung-out to notice that a baby is starving to death in their living room?
Drugstore Cowboy, for my money, remains the best junkie film.
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Last thing we watched was Gravity last night: we recorded it on HBO. A real tour-de-force: amazing acting with only two major characters and a real cliff-hanger!
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Aha! After some Googling I find it is called Zolushka but isn't findable to watch anywhere online.
On the plus side, the Cruising 1980 one is. ![[Smile]](smile.gif)
And I love this one: Boot Camp.
The movie is called Zolushka and uses the music from both Cinderella. (it's a silent). Waxy Moon is the fairy godmother. You can see him in the web series Capitol Hill Since it was shot in Seattle, this may be the first stop on the gay film festival circuit.
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The movie is called Zolushka and uses the music from both Cinderella. (it's a silent).
Didn't they have to get permission for at least the Disney one?
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Well, Film Festival films get away with a lot. (Although PBS did squelch a short called "B&E" which was a remake of "The Children's Hour" with voiceovers from Bert and Ernie).
But when I said Cinderella I was referring to the Rossini opera La Cenerentola and the Prokofiev ballet Cinderella. The director of the film mentioned growing up in the Soviet Union so he may have missed the Disney version.
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Still have not watched anything spooky/Halloweenish. ![[Frown]](frown.gif) We need to do this.
We do have access to the Nightmare on Elm Street movies, which I have never seen (well, I think I saw the one which broke the fourth wall, a long time ago). And Alien and Aliens (neither of which Cubby has seen).
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If you want old spooky and have a fast enough internet connection; the 1922 version of Nosferatu is on Youtube.
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Still have not watched anything spooky/Halloweenish. We need to do this.
We do have access to the Nightmare on Elm Street movies, which I have never seen (well, I think I saw the one which broke the fourth wall, a long time ago). And Alien and Aliens (neither of which Cubby has seen).
I think the 'breaking the fourth wall' film is 'New Nightmare' and remember it being pretty good considering the declining quality of the Nightmare on Elm Street sequels.
Last Halloween I bought Boris Karloff's 'The Mummy' a film which really holds up over the years. Karloff's a much underrated magnetic actor, sadly (incorrectly) remembered for shuffling and moaning.
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The other night I had a rerun of Kind Hearts and Coronets and was struck, again, by how completely hideous and vile the Joan Greenwood character becomes by the end. A masterfully made movie.
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On a not so scary note, I saw The Book of Life. A Dia De Los Muertos inspired animated movie.
Loved it. Yes, the story is predictable, but it still flows well. Loved the style of the animation, the design and the colour. But, I am infatuated with the Day of the Dead, so....
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I'm back to escorting a 14 year old to the cinema and have seen:
- Guardians of the Galaxy which was great fun, a sort of Star Wars (the original) meets every other film of the genre they fancied taking the good bits from, but with some kick-ass female characters. Personally I loved the soundtrack; what's not to like about the 70s and 80s music? (Because I was doing this for work, I spent a good chunk of the middle of it in a text conversation with another member of staff and missed a huge plot point. So I went back with my daughter who also loved it.) There is obviously a series planned with the same characters. And the Vin Diesel character is amazing, really, really cool.
- The Maze Runner - a film of a book. The blurb is that a teenager wakes up in a cage arriving in a clearing surrounded by the high cliffs of a maze, where a colony of young people have arrived one by one, once a month, and what happens afterwards. Definitely worth watching, a very young cast, some unknown, but quite a few to look out for. (Alby is played by the actor who was Trif from Kidulthood, Newt is played by another known actor.) Reviews I read beforehand from lovers of the book were complaining about sub-plots that were missed but acknowledged the acting and pace. This is another one I really liked and it had a subtext.
- Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles - it's what you'd expect, good effects, lots of action, not a lot of subtlety, any subtext spelt out in flashing lights.
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I've just watched a dvd of Glen or Glenda, Ed Wood's famously bad first film. Actually, it was rather sweet, and Ed's earnestness gave it heart, although there is a 10 or 15 minute nightmare sequence that is quite indescribable, involving a bit of S&M, various girls in states of undress, a Satan figure and goodness knows what else.
I'm very fond the 1994 Johnny Depp film Ed Wood, which is a sympathetic version of his life, and watching Glen or Glenda just makes me warm to him even more . And it's not as bad as Plan 9 from Outer Space ![[Ultra confused]](graemlins/confused2.gif) .
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Glen or Glenda is awesome. It's like an educational reel on crossdressing. And the final scene was a triumph!
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Guardians of the Galaxy which was great fun, a sort of Star Wars (the original) meets every other film of the genre they fancied taking the good bits from, but with some kick-ass female characters. Personally I loved the soundtrack; what's not to like about the 70s and 80s music?
It is a fun movie. It is not just that it has a 70s/80s music soundtrack, but that they bothered to create a plot thread to explain just why a movie set in interstellar space had a soundtrack of 70s/80s music.
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Netflix has at last made it to France, so traipsing down to the DVD hole-in-the-wall may now be a thing of the past.
The choice is not brilliant, but did manage to watch Fargo not long ago.
Helped me to understand (and recognise) Minnesota Nice, and unfortunately is a painfully accurate portrayal of the character and careers of many delinquents I know.
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Yesterday we went to the BFI and saw the new version of Metropolis ![[Yipee]](graemlins/spin.gif)
There are still a couple of scenes missing and at times the picture quality is pretty poor, but what an amazing film!! The plot actually makes sense now, the score fits properly and there are some fantastic visuals. How he managed all those extras, especially the children, I have no idea but the crowd scenes are awesome.
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Yesterday we went to the BFI and saw the new version of Metropolis
There are still a couple of scenes missing and at times the picture quality is pretty poor, but what an amazing film!! The plot actually makes sense now, the score fits properly and there are some fantastic visuals. How he managed all those extras, especially the children, I have no idea but the crowd scenes are awesome.
Oh wow, that sounds amazing. We have copy of a previous release (I studied some German inter-war film as part of an OU course on Total War) and the first time I watched it I had to keep wiki open so we could work out what was going on.
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We just came back from seeing BIRDMAN, the new Michael Keaton movie. Very fine! An amalgam of superheroes and the New York theater scene.
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Finally got round to seeing "Voyage of the Dawn Treader" on television last night. Enjoyed this a lot although I was somewhat surprised that the cast were on a journey to try to defeat a mysterious green mist from the Dark Isle, which could only be vanquished by rescuing seven magical swords. It was a bit of a plot stretch to have the missing seventh sword being stuck in Eustace and having to be extricated by Aslan before the spell could work. I wonder what C S Lewis would have made of that?
Also, poor Edmund is clearly being stalked through the series of films by the ghost of the White (or now Green) Witch. Surely time to give that recurring motif a rest?
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I have heard nothing about more Narnia movies. The relative un-profitableness of DAWN TREADER may have put paid to the series.
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I watched 3 somewhat different films over the weekend.
Firstly, The Eiger Sanction starring Clint Eastwood. On the negative it's got some bad 70s traits like some sexism, homophobia and racism. But (!) if you like spy thrillers, climbing and gorgeous scenery (and I do) then it is entertaining and enthralling with stunning views of Monument Valley's Totempole and spell-binding shots of the Eiger in Switzerland.
Secondly, Shaun of the Dead, the first in Edgar Wright's Cornetto trilogy. It's the third time I have seen the film and it is as funny and inventive as the first viewing.
Thirdly, Hugo by Scorsese. It is moving and visually engaging.
I liked all 3 films.
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Originally posted by JoannaP:
Yesterday we went to the BFI and saw the new version of Metropolis
There are still a couple of scenes missing and at times the picture quality is pretty poor, but what an amazing film!! The plot actually makes sense now, the score fits properly and there are some fantastic visuals. How he managed all those extras, especially the children, I have no idea but the crowd scenes are awesome.
Oh wow, that sounds amazing. We have copy of a previous release (I studied some German inter-war film as part of an OU course on Total War) and the first time I watched it I had to keep wiki open so we could work out what was going on.
Oh, yes. The restored version is quite an eye-opener to those of us whose first exposure was to the truncated film (I first saw it in the 1970s). Characters that were just walk-ons in the shortened version now have substantial parts, and the relationship between the Master of Metropolis and Rotwang the inventor is...more complicated than it had seemed.
As JoannaP states, the picture quality is poor in some scenes, and special title cards are needed to cover missing bits, but both are a small price to pay to enjoy the film as it was intended to be seen.
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I had an altercation with the morons in a lorry earlier this afternoon, which carried on through the green man light while I was crossing the road - they got loud rapping on the passenger window and a mouthful of abuse from me, which they returned. So when I got home I put on a dvd of Boris Karloff's 1933 The Mummy, which calmed me down no end.
There is something so classy about Karloff ![[Cool]](cool.gif)
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Actually made it to a cinema and saw The Judge, thought it a lot better than the reviews lead to believe.
Apparently Interstellar is premiering in France tomorrow, which puts us ahead of the crowd. Sorely tempted to go back for this.
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On a not so scary note, I saw The Book of Life. A Dia De Los Muertos inspired animated movie.
Loved it. Yes, the story is predictable, but it still flows well. Loved the style of the animation, the design and the colour. But, I am infatuated with the Day of the Dead, so....
I loved it, too! So lavishly beautiful. And I want a tiny pig shaped like a bleach bottle now.
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If anyone wants to watch a creepy movie for Halloween I can recommend 'Gone Girl'. No ghosts or vampires, but some ghoulish people and a twisting, crazy plotline. The most sympathetic character was the cat.
Has anyone seen 'Box Trolls'? I saw it with children from the vacation care program I work in. It was a bit scary for some of the littler children, but they all enjoyed making box costumes back at the centre and naming themselves after the box contents. I quite liked it though I did feel like I needed an epipen at times and the action sequences towards the end of the film were a bit long.
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Firstly, The Eiger Sanction starring Clint Eastwood. On the negative it's got some bad 70s traits like some sexism, homophobia and racism.
Yeah, sheesh, the homophobia in that. The dog's name was actually something that would be unprintable on SOF, outside maybe Hell.
In fairness, back in those days, homophobia was far more accepted than it is now, and turned up even in liberal or progressive media. But that film was pretty extreme, even by the standards of the time.
Though as I recall, the homophobia was somewhat balanced off by the homoerotic imagery of the guys on the mountains together.
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And I want a tiny pig shaped like a bleach bottle now.
I am seriously considering making the guitar. Well, an electric version, not ready to try making an acoustic guitar yet.
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Has anyone seen 'Box Trolls'?
I liked it. Loved the animation and most of the way the story progressed. Loved Richard Ayoade in it as well.
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If you're looking for a fun Halloween film, "Troll Hunter" would be a fun choice.
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Has anyone seen Pride Set in Britain when Thatcher was PM.
I'm thinking of going in the weekend.
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If you're looking for a fun Halloween film, "Troll Hunter" would be a fun choice.
I think it is available on Netflix/Hulu too and is in our queue! Thank you!! ![[Overused]](graemlins/notworthy.gif)
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I watched The Giver on Friday night. A very typical huxleyan dystopia, ie. appearing on the surface as a science-inspired paradise, but hiding a darker reality underneath.
Also, the same basic huxleyan sermonizing about how we can't reject our physical and emotional imperfections without rejecting our humanity. True enough, but hardly a scorchingly original point.
That said, by the admittedly lame standards of the genre, a fairly entertaining yarn(better than Equillibrium or Gattaca), which managed to hold my interest and even moisten my eyes a bit during the humanity-asserting climax.
The character of the Giver, essentially a huxleyan savage but employed by the state(he transmits knowledge of the old days to the rulers of the supposed utopia), was well drawn. I was pleased to see the writers resisted the temptation to portray him as a lovable old rogue(one of the more annoyningly overdone cinematic archetypes these days).
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Has anyone seen Pride Set in Britain when Thatcher was PM.
Yes. Do not see if you are homophobic or a Thatcherite. Otherwise, see. All the political engagement of Brassed Off; all the fun of The Full Monty. Dominic West gets to play a likeable character for a change.
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