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Despite being someone who has seen a steady decline since Moff took over, I couldn't fault this week's episode. Capaldi playing his guitar - again - was self indulgent (just as Smith playing football was) but that would be the only thing I can pick on. And yet... I found it cold and dull. Nothing gripped me, and I find it hard to care how it will be resolved in a week's time. The life is ebbing away from the programme - IMNSVHO of course.
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One thing I am sure about - Moffat doesn't do things for no reason, and he isn't careless.
I wish I had your faith.
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If you compare what we've had so far with Tennant's second season, with Martha, I can't see any reason to think there's been a decline.
For me, the Martha season was one of the high points of nu-Who, second only to Eccleston's.
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Robert Armin: Capaldi playing his guitar - again - was self indulgent
Yeah, a bit.
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Robert Armin: And yet... I found it cold and dull. Nothing gripped me, and I find it hard to care how it will be resolved in a week's time.
I felt a bit of the same in this episode. The running around in New Mexico and Turmezistan didn't do much for me. I am looking forward to how the cliffhanger will be resolved though, and what will become of the treaty with the Zygons.
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Robert Armin: For me, the Martha season was one of the high points of nu-Who
For me too. The Shakespeare Code, Gridlock, 42, The Impossible Planet / The Satan Pit ... All good episodes. And of course, Blink is one of the best episodes ever.
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LeRoc
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Oops wrong two-parter, it should have been Human Nature / The Family of Blood. Very good.
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Somewhere earlier it was speculated as to why viewing figures are down. I am very much enjoying the new series myself and don't see any down-turn in quality. Over the past few years I have met a few British girls who are Doctor Who fans. One, a redhead from Scotland, stopped watching when Amy and Rory were no more. She had wanted them to stay.
Another stopped when Tennant left. I get the impression that for some, an attachment to the programme is like people who are fans of Christiano Ronaldo and switch from the mancs to Madrid when he got transferred.
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For me too. The Shakespeare Code, Gridlock, 42, The Impossible Planet / The Satan Pit ... All good episodes. And of course, Blink is one of the best episodes ever.
We're at episode seven of this season, and Human Nature/ Family of Blood / Blink were episodes eight to ten of that season.
Gridlock was a flawed classic; I think The Girl Who Died is pretty much going to be thought of as a classic too.
Otherwise: Evolution of the Daleks was a really messy dalek two-parter; I like it more than some, but there's no doubt that The Magician's Apprentice two-parter was much better.
Lazarus Experiment and 42 were silly monster runarounds; I have a soft spot for 42, but Lazarus Experiment was rubbish so on average the Under the Lake two-parter was better overall.
I didn't much care for the Shakespeare Code. The Woman Who Lived was brilliant in parts and I don't think the rubbish bits were any worse than the equivalent bits of the Shakespeare Code.
That leaves us with Smith and Jones, which was awful - rubbish science set on the moon, but crucially rubbish boring science set on the moon - vs The Zygon Invasion, which looks like being another classic if part two lives up to part one.
I rest my case.
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Somewhere earlier it was speculated as to why viewing figures are down.
One explanation: it doesn't start until after Strictly Come Dancing, so children can't watch it until they turn on iplayer on Sunday morning. (Also, more people using iplayer in general. I watch it on iplayer.)
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LeRoc
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What I see, by both our counts, is a season with three or four good episodes and two or three outstanding ones.
I guess it's a glass half full kind of thing, but I don't see this season as a low point other seasons need to be measured to.
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Originally posted by Dafyd:
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Originally posted by Rosa Winkel:
Somewhere earlier it was speculated as to why viewing figures are down.
One explanation: it doesn't start until after Strictly Come Dancing, so children can't watch it until they turn on iplayer on Sunday morning. (Also, more people using iplayer in general. I watch it on iplayer.)
I may have mentioned this elsewhere, but Doctor Who gets one of the biggest "catch-up" audiences of any show in the UK. For instance (it's the first one I came across) The Witch's Familiar got a "live" audience of only 3.7 million - but about another 2.4 million watched it from other sources within 28 days.
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One thing I am sure about - Moffat doesn't do things for no reason, and he isn't careless.
I wish I had your faith.
Not that careless. Microphone kit hanging down from New Model Soldiers buff coat maybe. Stacks of stuff, I don't believe.
And I suspect we are going to see more of the States - they couldn't afford to go for such a small section, I would have thought.
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Despite being someone who has seen a steady decline since Moff took over, I couldn't fault this week's episode.
Steady decline? As I remember it, you've pretty much declared every episode of the Moffat era a disaster from The Beast Below onwards.
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Penny S: And I suspect we are going to see more of the States - they couldn't afford to go for such a small section, I would have thought.
Hey yes, that's very much possible.
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Originally posted by Dafyd:
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Originally posted by Robert Armin:
Despite being someone who has seen a steady decline since Moff took over, I couldn't fault this week's episode.
Steady decline? As I remember it, you've pretty much declared every episode of the Moffat era a disaster from The Beast Below onwards.
Not entirely unfair. However, I was very much looking forward to Moff taking over as I felt RTD had grown stale, wonderful though his best stuff had been. Tennant's overblown, lachrymose farewell was one of the low points of nu-Who. And Moff was responsible for two of the finest episodes of Who ever - Van Gogh, and The Doctor's Wife. So I would like to think I am not blindly prejudiced against him, merely disappointed in a lot of his work.
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Robert Armin: Tennant's overblown, lachrymose farewell was one of the low points of nu-Who.
I wasn't too keen on that either. NuWho has always had story archs from season to season; from season 3 to 7 they seem to have gotten bigger and bigger. I liked some of them, but it is also refreshing to see a return to 'smaller' stories again with Capaldi. Sure, there is talk about a hybrid in this season, but it isn't as heavy foreshadowing as in the previous seasons.
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Tennant's overblown farewell.
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And Clara acting outside herself in the pod as Oswin acted outside the Dalek.
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I was reminded of the same thing.
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And next week an isolated station with things breaking in - again.
And interruption of the sleep cycle - Hmm.
That was a brilliant speech from Capaldi. On the eve of Remembrance Sunday, and just before the Albert Hall do.
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"Five rounds, rapid!"
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Let me confound Dafyd by saying I thought that was a really good episode. Even before all the stuff about forgiveness - which I thought was brilliant - I'd loved the struggle Clara had for control. And, as a lifelong asthmatic, the final scene was excellent.
(However, to confirm my reputation as an old miseryguts, I was expecting a new adventure to start tonight. Last week made so little impression on me that I'd forgotten it, and thought this was the first after the dull immortal Viking.)
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And I was also reminded - and probably none of you will be - of a play produced by a Dover sec mod school as an entry in a competition for schools producing TV plays, way way back. It was in an anteroom of the afterlife, with the central character an ex-President of (probably) the USA, who had probably pressed the button. (It was in those days, when we expected someone to do it.) The boy playing the part had to deliver a speech justifying himself. There was a prosecutor and a defender.
There were two doors. For some reason, though it looked very much as if it were going the other way, the one he went through did not go to Hell.
Wish I could remember the words as well as the images and the intensity - which were what the way Dr Who presented it reminded me of.
I shall watch it again tomorrow.
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"I'm old enough to be your Messiah" ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif)
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Penny S
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One thing I didn't like - only two parachutes.
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That anti war speech was possibly the main reason they didn't delay airing the episode as the image of a plane being shot down could be seen to rather offensive, given the current affairs in the Sinai desert.
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I thought it was an excellent episode, and very relevant to this weekend. The anti-war message was strong and well done.
Next week looks interesting.
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Did I see Tardis shaped litter bins and a flash of William Hartnell?
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Penny S
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There was the use of a character self naming "Me" again.
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Did I see Tardis shaped litter bins and a flash of William Hartnell?
Where? Missed those.
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The litter bins were around where the Doctor and Osgood were walking at some point and a picture of William Hartnell was on a door that opened when Bonney (Bonny? Bonnie? Bonni?) was in the UNIT Building, just after there was a reflection of Clara in a mirror and just before Bonney came back to look at that. Possibly.
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Okay, that was great.
I know I said before that Capaldi really seemed to be more comfortable in the role this season, but now he really has nailed the part. The speech was The Doctor, the quintessential distilled essence of The Doctor.
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Penny S
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I saw the Hartnell picture last week in that building, so yes. And I noticed the colour, but not the shape of the litter bins - I thought they'd lined it up badly with the action!
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That was good.
I was thinking about the Doctor's speech during the Remembrance Sunday service.
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One thing I didn't like - only two parachutes.
I spotted that too. Bad news for the pilot, the Zygon and at least one UNIT guard (seen in the background at the end of part one).
The Doctor doesn't save everyone this time.
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According to a website interview with Peter Capaldi, the day they filmed the speech was the day they had a visit from the American ambassador and his retinue. And they applauded.
We are going to another isolated base, in space, next week, with found footage from its wreck. where they have been experimenting with sleeplessness. Which can lead, I think, to waking dreams.
We've had people being contained - Clara in a Dalek and a pod, Ashildr in a helmet, the Dr in Davros' chair and the Fisherking's coffin.
We are heading towards episodes using Heaven and hell in the titles, which suggests an afterlife again, as in the last series. And the week between next and the end two has a Raven, which hangs around death. (Also Ashildr and a variant of Diagon Alley.)
I wonder just how far back we are supposed to go to find when the split from Who reality occurred.
Doesn't Basil mean king?
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Basil is King, or Emperor, I think.
And, damn, that was good! The Doctor's speech in particular, but also the Zygon in the shop, and Kate Stewart's "Five rounds rapid."
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I watched the two Zygon episodes today.
Very, very good. The whole thing held together very well. Doctor Who is at its best when it uses a particular alien for a reason, not just as a stock monster because we need to have one. The climactic speech was electrifying.
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Originally posted by Penny S:
One thing I didn't like - only two parachutes.
I spotted that too. Bad news for the pilot, the Zygon and at least one UNIT guard (seen in the background at the end of part one).
The Doctor doesn't save everyone this time.
Well yes, and several piles of incinerated electric hair around the place.
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Originally posted by Dafyd:
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Originally posted by Rosa Winkel:
Somewhere earlier it was speculated as to why viewing figures are down.
One explanation: it doesn't start until after Strictly Come Dancing, so children can't watch it until they turn on iplayer on Sunday morning. (Also, more people using iplayer in general. I watch it on iplayer.)
I may have mentioned this elsewhere, but Doctor Who gets one of the biggest "catch-up" audiences of any show in the UK. For instance (it's the first one I came across) The Witch's Familiar got a "live" audience of only 3.7 million - but about another 2.4 million watched it from other sources within 28 days.
We usually watch it on catch up en famille on Sunday afternoon, as Who excitement just before the youngest is due to go to bed doesn't make for a great evening!
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I thought it was brilliant. The speech of course, but there was so much to like. They way last week's cliff hanger was resolved. Not a cop-out this time. The conversation of Bonnie with Clara. So much going on there. Brilliant acting by Coleman, to be able to play her evil twin without the help of visual aids.
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One thing I didn't like - only two parachutes.
I spotted that too. Bad news for the pilot, the Zygon and at least one UNIT guard (seen in the background at the end of part one).
The Doctor doesn't save everyone this time.
Well yes, and several piles of incinerated electric hair around the place.
For me, all of that added resonance to the Doctor's forgiveness. Both Humans and Zygons died as a result of Bonnie's uprising. The Doctor could not save everybody, but nevertheless: "I forgive you."
And, yes, Coleman's dual performance was wonderful. When Clara and Bonnie are having their conversation, it was very, very easy to forget that there was just a single actress doing it all. It is no wonder they gave her the week off for "The Woman Who Lived"--she needed the break!
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Arising out of a conversation I had in the pub...
Classic Doctor Who serials to recommend.
The following twelve is a moderately personal ordering:
The War Games
Carnival of Monsters
Horror of Fang Rock
The Ribos Operation
City of Death
Warriors Gate
Kinda
Enlightenment
Caves of Androzani
Remembrance of the Daleks
Curse of Fenric
Ghost Light
and for a baker's dozen, Power of the Daleks, which you can only watch as reconstructions on youtube, which is a pity because even as reconstructions on youtube it is really good.
(Classic Doctor Who fans will note that I am a fan of Sylvester McCoy, and also of Doctor Who stories where it is not obvious immediately, or indeed ever, what is going on.)
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I enjoyed that episode and thought the Doctor's speech was fantastic.
But did anyone else notice that one of the helmets from the Viking episode was very prominantly visable right behind the Doctor for the whole of that speech? It might not mean anything but it seems a bit odd. After all, someone must have decided to put it there. Maybe I'm seeing significance where there is none.
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I didn't notice, but was alerted to it by another site - in a very special position, and I'm trying to recall what was in that space when we first saw the Black Archive. With no luck.
Next week, I notice in the trailer, someone gets shut in a box again. And the word nightmare is used.
It's rather as if I, when teaching, had given a class a set of items to fit into a story, and I then had a set of utterly different pieces of work, but all including those things, but not necessarily in the same way or in any other way connected.
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Erik: But did anyone else notice that one of the helmets from the Viking episode was very prominantly visable right behind the Doctor for the whole of that speech? It might not mean anything but it seems a bit odd. After all, someone must have decided to put it there. Maybe I'm seeing significance where there is none.
The Black Vault is where UNIT stores all the alien stuff they discovered. They found this helmet somewhere in Scandinavia.
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Yeah, I agree the black archive is a natural place for it to end up. It was just it felt very prominantly placed. If it had been something from old-Who, like the picture of William Hartnell, I would have just thought it was a nice node to the past. But with being something from the current series it felt much more intentional.
As I said before, it's quite likely I am just reading too much into it and am too easily distracted
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To me, it felt a bit like an inside joke. To us, this is from last month's episode. To UNIT, it is 1100 years old.
I have to say that I'm a bit less suspicious (or more gullible?) than some other people on this thread. A lot of things that have been mentioned ("Another base under siege?" "Some things are not historically accurate!") to me have to do with how action series work, and I'm not seeing a lot behind this.
What I see as significant in this season, as far as story arcs leading up to the last episode go, is the talk about hybrids, and of course the fact that Clara is going to leave.
But I may be wrong.
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To me, it felt a bit like an inside joke. To us, this is from last month's episode. To UNIT, it is 1100 years old.
Especially as it's not entirely clear what the rules of time travel are in Doctor Who. (*) It's quite possible that it wasn't there when we saw UNIT in The Magician's Apprentice, and has always been there since The Girl Who Died.
(*) This is a lie. It has been established beyond doubt that the rules of time travel are whatever they need to be for the plot of the current episode.
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