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Firenze

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Over in Purg they are debating the role of free food in attracting people to church. But clearly such trivia as eternal salvation are as nothing compared to the really important issue - which is the proper composition and correct name for the blessed association of bread and bacon?

I would place a marker for Bacon Bap. Said bap to be round, soft, white (but with extra points for a crusty top), buttered and containing no fewer than two rashers of back bacon.

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In any event - slices of fresh white bloomer loaf.

Trad - buttered, with at least 2 rashers of crisp smoked back bacon.

Mod Oz - aioli in place of butter, possibly some sliced or mashed avo. Good bacon is hard to come by in Sydney, but definitely back bacon still.

Plenty of valid uses for streaky bacon, of course. Bacon sarnies just isn't one of them.

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Bacon sandwich or even bacon sarnie. White bread from an actual loaf, no butter, two slices of perfectly cooked, not too crispy bacon, tomato sauce. No more, no less. Preferably eaten in the open air because for some reason they always taste better. Though a lazy Sunday morning breakfast with a toasted bacon sandwich on white bread with real (cooked) tomato is another good thing.

Under no circumstances should there be any green salad or mayonnaise in a simple bacon sandwich. No baps, rolls, barms, batches, hoagies, etc - the ratio of bread to bacon will be disproportionate.

The bacon should not be streaky, btw.

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However, if you do have streaky bacon lying around.

Toast two slices of bread ( your choice, but sliced.)

Either spread each slice thinly with mayonnaise or one slice thickly.

Add a couple leaves of lettuce.

Slice one tomato, blot the slices gently with a paper towel, layer on top of lettuce.

Add a generous* portion of crisp fried streaky bacon.

For extra decadence, add sliced or gently mashed avocado.

Put slices together.

Die of endorphin overload.

* I believe Erin's unit of measurement was "a metric fuckton"

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Firenze

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If you want to create the illusion that you are eating a Healthy Salad, you can deconstruct the foregoing as follows -

Mix shredded lettuce, sliced tomato, diced avocado and chopped scallion. Fry pieces of streaky bacon until really crisp. Fry cubes of sourdough in the bacon fat. Tip bread and bacon on to the green stuff and toss the lot in a very mustardy vinaigrette.

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I am sad to have to contradict my friend Ariel here and say that HP Sauce or even Branston Pickle™ is preferable to Tomato Ketchup for a proper bacon buttie taste - but as I went veggie over 30 years ago I doubt that my view counts for much.

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I recently came across the Elvis Breakfast Sandwich, quite possibly the cause of his untimely demise:

Toast two slices of toast and fry some bacon.
Spread one slice with peanut butter and the other with honey.
Put the bacon on the peanut butter and chop a banana across the honey.
Press together and then butter the outside of the sandwich.
Fry the buttered sides in the bacon fat. It is vitally important that no cholesterol can be allowed to escape.

I don't particularly like peanut butter so I use Marmite instead ... [Axe murder]

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quote:
Good bacon is hard to come by in Sydney, but definitely back bacon still.
Kittyville, the secret is getting bacon from the butcher, not the slimy prepacks from supermarket. Ask friends if they can recommend one to begin the search. I used to get bacon with my vegetable order . It came from a butcher in Bondi who smoked the bacon he sold n a small smoker. Given the ethnicity of many around Bondi, this came as a surprise. Different ethnicity but same dietary restrictions in Liverpool but one son bought good bacon from a butcher there when he worked there.

My youngest son makes his own. I have a Scandinavian electric smoker and I gave him the smoker pan from same company. He uses it on his big kettle BBQ. Cures it himself with a variety of different recipes and then smokes it slowly. It does not look like commercial bacon but he and his nine year old son say it is the best bacon in the world.

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Thanks, Lothlorien. I have also thought about smoking my own bacon, but haven't experimented yet.

I am lucky - my local IGA has bacon from both Poacher's Pantry and Schmidt's (a Victorian smokehouse). Both excellent. But my local butcher is not a good source of bacon. I get the impression that it is very much a localised, hit and miss, thing in Sydney.

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Very hit and miss indeed. Try the good feta from the deli at IGA too. My son works two evenings a week up the road at the Supabarn and buys that bacon thre. I had forgotten it till you mentioned it. Even better with staff discount.

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Good quality thick cut bacon, fried, mushrooms sliced and fried with minimal fat, sandwiched between two slices of thick cut bread from a crusty loaf from a local bakery. Mmmmm

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quote:
Originally posted by St. Gwladys:
Good quality thick cut bacon, fried, mushrooms sliced and fried with minimal fat, sandwiched between two slices of thick cut bread from a crusty loaf from a local bakery. Mmmmm

Seconded. No harm is done by toasting the bread either.

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Firenze

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Mushrooms? What mad Welsh heresy is this? Totally the wrong texture.

Now if you'd said hash brown I could understand.

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I can recommend a small fresh baguette filled with hot bacon and mushrooms and drizzled with tomato sauce, as eaten on the way to work. Grated cheese an additional option.

However, the perfect bacon sarnie doesn't usually involve mushrooms because the buggers always escape long before you can eat them.

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I absolutely love black bacon in a bap (although I only use this supplier as an example).
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White bread, spread with ketchup and filled with fried bacon. (Grilling it is just too healthy)
Though I used to make a tasty bacon and egg butty as follows
Fry the bacon, then fry the egg in the bacon fat (I like to burst the yolk while its in the pan so it's not runny)
Put the bacon and egg in bread spread with ketchup (you can add grated cheese if you want extra cholesterol)
Finally fry the sandwich in the pan to use up any excess fat!

Here in cork they make 'breakfast rolls' which is essentially a fry up in a short crunchy baton. Bacon, egg, sausage, black and white pudding, tomato, mushroom... The contents can vary a bit but any or all of these can be included

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quote:
Originally posted by Kittyville:
In any event - slices of fresh white bloomer loaf.

Trad - buttered, with at least 2 rashers of crisp smoked back bacon.

Mod Oz - aioli in place of butter, possibly some sliced or mashed avo. Good bacon is hard to come by in Sydney, but definitely back bacon still.

Plenty of valid uses for streaky bacon, of course. Bacon sarnies just isn't one of them.

Correct.

And the right name for it is Bacon Butty [Smile]

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Bread lightly toasted (in other words slightly crisp but barely any colour), then only one slice buttered so the other can absorb the fat from the bacon, which should be crispy. If you like, you can substitute cream cheese for the butter.

And preferably top the bacon with a fried egg - heaven and breakfast in one. [Smile]

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My preference is for some decent wholemeal bread with a bit of flavour to it. I haven't been able to find anything much in the US - bread here is sweet. Incredibly sweet. Even the special bread for diabetics is full of sweeteners.

Probably my first choice would be to begin with a tray of wholemeal rolls fresh from the oven. Cut open, butter, insert plenty of bacon (dry cure, thick cut, not smoked, and back bacon, of course.) Bacon should be fried just enough that it begins to crisp on the edges - we're looking for meaty, not crispy.

Add a little HP sauce, and a large mug of some fairly robust tea.

This isn't a butty - it's a bacon roll.

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quote:
Originally posted by Baptist Trainfan:
I absolutely love black bacon in a bap (although I only use this supplier as an example).

Ah, now black bacon is wonderful, though hard to come by. I used to get it at a farmers' market but they've stopped coming to it now.
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quote:
Originally posted by Kelly Alves:
However, if you do have streaky bacon lying around.

Toast two slices of bread ( your choice, but sliced.)

Either spread each slice thinly with mayonnaise or one slice thickly.

Add a couple leaves of lettuce.

Slice one tomato, blot the slices gently with a paper towel, layer on top of lettuce.

Add a generous* portion of crisp fried streaky bacon.

For extra decadence, add sliced or gently mashed avocado.

Put slices together.

Die of endorphin overload.

* I believe Erin's unit of measurement was "a metric fuckton"

This is the way I do it, with two variations.

First, I don't toast the bread, I smear mayonnaise on both sides and brown it on a hot griddle. Don't knock it till you've tried it. Then add more mayo, as described above.

Second, I don't consider most grocery store tomatoes worth eating, the mealy, flavorless things. Every summer, I grow an entire vine of beefsteak heirloom tomatoes for the sole purpose an annual two week bacon-lettuce-tomato orgy. Now if you really want a BLT outside of that thin window, I suppose you can make do, but once you have had a BLT with a fresh off the vine Black Krim or Mortgage Lifter, anything else is just going to disappoint.

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American bacon sandwich, AKA "BLT"—Kelz pretty well nails it. I'll sometimes do tomato or bacon on the side if it's one of the tart tomatoes I like—have to respect both the fruit and the bacon—and no avocado, but that's personal. I like the crisp of black bacon and lettuce, the twang of good tomato, but not the squish of avocado.

English bacon sarnie—bap roll, two rashers, HP sauce, maybe some cheddar or Red Leicester if you're going for overkill. The texture of the roll and back bacon is already kind of toothsome (as opposed to the crispness of American bacon/sourdough toast/lettuce); the cheese and HP add some contrasting twang.

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Sliced, brown bread for me, as it comes or lightly toasted, with or without butter (depending on how fatty the bacon is or how moist the bread is). Two or three crispy rashers, and that's it. No sauce. Definitely no tomato ketchup. Ketchup ruins anything it touches and has no place near food, certainly not near a bacon butty.

A bacon barm is also perfectly acceptable, as long as it isn't one of those weird ones with flour all over it, (I don't know who sat down one day and thought this would be a good idea.)

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And for some of us 'sons of the south' there's the BTE, that is, the Bacon-Tomato-Elvis, which leaves out the lettuce and subs in peanut butter. (Optional to add a sliced banana.)

I looked askance at my first one, but they proved addictive! [Yipee]

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Firenze

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Once sampled a bacon and maple syrup iced doughnut.

Way to ruin three foodstuffs.

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quote:
Originally posted by Firenze:
Once sampled a bacon and maple syrup iced doughnut.

Way to ruin three foodstuffs.

It's part of this weirdness about making meat taste sweet. It's all maple-drizzled this and honey-glazed that. I don't know why people can't just leave well enough alone.

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Sadly, we can't get Proper Back Bacon™ here; there is something that they call back bacon, but it's not the same (and costs a bl**dy fortune). [Waterworks]

What I'd call a bacon sandwich or sarnie would be ideally a nice soft, white roll, untoasted, lightly buttered (optional) with at least two or three rashers of back bacon inside. No sauce.

One of the many pleasures of going to Orkney is the bacon sandwiches on the Pentalina ferry, which are much as described above, and a little taste of Heaven. [Smile]

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Firenze

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Just waiting to see what turns presently under the description 'Bacon Roll' on the east coast service to King's Cross. If the menu is to be believed it will be exquisite rashers from rare breed pig (possibly because they keep killing 'em for sarnies?)

Aaaannd...OK. Roll rather too flabby and bacon flavour best described as 'mild'. Plus not very fatty - and you need the succulence of hot grease for the correct umami.

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Proper bacon is one of the reasons British expats all over Paris are on our knees thanking the Lord for the return of Marks and Sparks. While they have all sorts of tasty charcuterie, the French make no pork product comparable to thick cut back bacon.

I’m in favour of toasting the bread because it stops it going soggy. Bacon is fatty enough without the need for butter. Ketchup definitely. While cheese might taste nice, I think the resulting foodstuff cannot authentically be described as a bacon sarnie. It is a bacon sarnie with cheese in.

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quote:
Originally posted by Firenze:
Just waiting to see what turns presently under the description 'Bacon Roll' on the east coast service to King's Cross. If the menu is to be believed it will be exquisite rashers from rare breed pig (possibly because they keep killing 'em for sarnies?)

Aaaannd...OK. Roll rather too flabby and bacon flavour best described as 'mild'. Plus not very fatty - and you need the succulence of hot grease for the correct umami.

Ah. I still think fondly of the Virgin Trains hot bacon rolls which used to be available on early morning commutes. They did some delicious smoked maple (I think?) bacon, the like of which I haven't had elsewhere and with which a cold, crumbly Danish pastry served from a trolley (if you can catch it for long enough to make it stop) cannot possibly compare. The SMB in a roll with tomato sauce was an inspiring way to start a winter's morning.
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White sliced bread (eg Warburtons Toastie), real butter, smoked back bacon. Maybe some English mustard but that's the only sauce I'd contemplate. Alternatively, smoked back bacon with fried mushrooms and a fried egg in onion bread.

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I too would only butter one slice of the bread. Where I come from, they are bacon butties. Absolutely NO KETCHUP.

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Brown sauce is permissible - even desirable - on one slice of bread, with butter on the other.

Alternatively, add plenty of onions fried in butter, but no brown sauce.

The butter should run down your chin and you should be tempted to go somewhere private so you can lick the plate afterwards.

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quote:
Originally posted by la vie en rouge:
... While cheese might taste nice ...

CHEESE?????? In a bacon sarnie????? [Eek!]

Heretick! Are you sure you're not American? [Devil]

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quote:
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quote:
Originally posted by la vie en rouge:
... While cheese might taste nice ...

CHEESE?????? In a bacon sarnie????? [Eek!]

Heretick! Are you sure you're not American? [Devil]

We're getting very foodie here but bacon, brie and cranberry in a baguette, toasted so the cheese melts is excellent.

But it isn't a bacon butty by any means, just lunch in which bacon plays a part.

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quote:
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I too would only butter one slice of the bread. Where I come from, they are bacon butties. Absolutely NO KETCHUP.

I've really never understood the application of ketchup to anything, really. I will mix a little into the mayonnaise I have for my fries, but that is about it. In fact, it has to be a really spectacular kind of sauce for me to be interested in sauces at all.

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While we're on the subject-- what exactly is brown sauce?

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Generic name for HP sauce, though there are others—I think Heinz 57 may be our equivalent, maybe with a bit of Worcestershire or A1 blended in. Pretty good stuff.

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Originally posted by Kelly Alves:
While we're on the subject-- what exactly is brown sauce?

There are makers other than HP - Daddies used to show up quite frequently in greasy-spoon type cafes - but HP is the best. It's brown and mildly spicy. Malt vinegar base, with plenty of tamarind and some spices.

You'd expect to find a bottle of brown sauce, a bottle of ketchup, and a bottle of malt vinegar alongside the salt and pepper in a greasy spoon.

It's the kind of thing you eat with chips (fries), cold meats, and cheap meats (it would go well in a sausage sandwich) rather than with better cuts of meat.

ETA: These days, I can buy HP sauce in the US, in the "exotic foreign foods" section of regular supermarkets. Also the British version of Heinz baked beans (the sauce is lighter and sweeter than US baked beans), and a small but curiously random selection of other UK foodstuffs.

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OK-- I kinda like HP, I use it in place of ketchup when I make my mayonnaise blend at the local Pasties-and-chips place. They have a tiny little expat grocery there, too, where Heinz Beans are proudly displayed, among a bunch of other things.

(Actually the SF Peninsula has a fair number of expat conclaves, so you find these little Brit markets scattered around.)

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Originally posted by la vie en rouge:
... While cheese might taste nice ...

CHEESE?????? In a bacon sarnie????? [Eek!]

Heretick! Are you sure you're not American? [Devil]

Be fair – I did say that the resulting foodstuff wasn’t a bacon sarnie anymore. Or were you so outraged you couldn’t carry on reading? [Biased]

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Originally posted by jacobsen:
.... Where I come from, they are bacon butties. ......

Same here. The first Wednesday of every month is the church 'Coffee Morning' which runs from about 10.30 am to 1.00pm, so covers lunchtime. It serves Bacon Butties, Cheese Toasties, Soup and Roll, plus home-made cakes. The Bacon Butties are two rashers of back bacon, expertly fried until just turning crisp at the edges, within two slices of white bread and with an option of tomato (tinned). Cost - £1. They are very popular.
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Originally posted by la vie en rouge:
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Originally posted by Piglet:
quote:
Originally posted by la vie en rouge:
... While cheese might taste nice ...

CHEESE?????? In a bacon sarnie????? [Eek!]

Heretick! Are you sure you're not American? [Devil]

Be fair – I did say that the resulting foodstuff wasn’t a bacon sarnie anymore. Or were you so outraged you couldn’t carry on reading? [Biased]
Fair play - but I'm not sure it would still count as a foodstuff if one put cheese on it ... [Big Grin]

Don't get me wrong - I love cheese, but I can't understand the predilection of my adopted continent to put it on practically everything.

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I can recommend a bacon sandwich with grated extra-mature cheddar, or bacon and blue cheese.
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[tangent alert] Blue cheese and a traditional Christmas cake go very well together - maybe we need a cheese+ thread since the stuff is so prevalent[/tangent]

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Blue cheese drizzled with honey.
Blue cheese crumbled into a dish of nuts.
Blue cheese on a burger...

Yeah, you might be right, this might be a seperate thread.

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quote:
Originally posted by Kelly Alves:
Blue cheese drizzled with honey.
Blue cheese crumbled into a dish of nuts.
Blue cheese on a burger...

Yeah, you might be right, this might be a seperate thread.

It has one. Cross posted in true ship fashion.

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Originally posted by Boogie:
Correct.

And the right name for it is Bacon Butty [Smile]

Or Buttie, alternate spelling. Bacon is always in a buttie, even if the bread is not buttered. Better to dip the bread in the hot bacon fat then add bacon.

Perfect buttie bacon is back bacon, cooked so that the edges, but nit the middle, is just beginning to go crisp. Sorry America, but your little bacon strips just do not work for this. Northern Europe does the best bacon.

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I think that depends entirely on what purpose you want your bacon to serve. In which case, either one is heaven.

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This makes me wonder how common bacon in the US became stripey, because all our cuisine ( except frybread ) came from some Mother Land or other. I'm guessing it has something to do with slogging things 2000 miles across a prairie in a covered wagon? Or is streaky bacon a German/ Norwegian/ whatever staple?

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