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Thread: English National Anthem
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Piglet
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quote: Originally posted by Adeodatus: ... Dum de dum de dum de dum, Dum de dum de dumm dumm, Dum de dum de dum de dum, Dum de diddle-de dum ...
Apparently if you join the Archers fan club, you get a badge with that written on it.
As a Scot (albeit one married to an Englishman), I don't really feel qualified to join in this thread; if I were, I'd probably vote for Jerusalem. The allegorical words don't bother me a jot - I just see it as rather nice imagery with a jolly good tune.
I suppose the other option would be Nimrod, but that always makes me want to cry.
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Sioni Sais
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quote: Originally posted by Piglet: As a Scot (albeit one married to an Englishman), I don't really feel qualified to join in this thread; if I were, I'd probably vote for Jerusalem. The allegorical words don't bother me a jot - I just see it as rather nice imagery with a jolly good tune.
I suppose the other option would be Nimrod, but that always makes me want to cry.
That would make it very suitable, for the performance of many of our sports teams does just that to me.
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HarryLime
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'Jerusalem' might not make a lot of sense, but it's stunning lyrically and musically, and if I were English, it would get my vote.
As a non-English person who's spent most of my life in England, I do regret this drifting apart of Britain. We're really not very different, you know. (Ireland excepted. I've never been there, so I don't have an opinion)
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L'organist
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It seems to me that what is required is to separate the monarch's anthem from the national anthem.
In the case of Wales and Scotland, they've done that with Flower of Scotland (although as a muscian I wish they'd decide whether they want it to be in a natural or enharmonic minor key) and Hen Wlad Fy Nhadau; Northern Ireland has used The Londonderry Air for some sporting events so that just leaves England. If people want to sing then I guess it should be Jerusalem but for a tune I'd vote for Barwick Green.
So, keep God save the Queen for those occasions when the monarch is present - like our US cousins have Hail to the Chief - and use whichever national song is require otherwise.
A UK sports team will still have to use God save the Queen but surely someone could write a verse referring to the nation rather than the monarch?
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Penny S
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After all, loads of others have words to "our" tune, so why not us as well? [ 18. January 2016, 13:05: Message edited by: Penny S ]
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Sparrow
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quote: Originally posted by L'organist: It seems to me that what is required is to separate the monarch's anthem from the national anthem.
A UK sports team will still have to use God save the Queen but surely someone could write a verse referring to the nation rather than the monarch?
That might be a bit confusing. Why not just write a new verse for Jerusalem or I Vow to Thee My Country?
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Rev per Minute
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quote: Originally posted by L'organist: A UK sports team will still have to use God save the Queen but surely someone could write a verse referring to the nation rather than the monarch?
God save the U...K Don't let us break away Fro-om each other.
Keep Britain in one piece, English, Scots, Welsh, in peace, And the-e Northern Irish, Go-od save us all.
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