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Lamb Chopped
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quote:
Originally posted by Doublethink.:
Re the symbian article: Two issues, a) not very aesthetically pleasing dildos and b) *renting* dildos - I think not. Even if I did have my own personal autoclave.

Now you got me thinking.

Are any dildoes aesthetically pleasing?
[Ultra confused]

I know I'm going to regret asking that.

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lilBuddha
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quote:
Originally posted by Lamb Chopped:

I know I'm going to regret asking that.

[Devil] Depends on your personal aesthetics, of course. But when you veer away from the "realistic" ones, especially to vibrators, some don't look so bad. Like minimalist modern sculptures, really. [URL=https: //www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ]Click if you dare.[/URL]


[Link broken because I fail to see any connection between Rick Astley and a dildo. Nor do I wish to be informed of one. On the assumption that this is an attempt at some sort of 'gotcha', it is inappropriate for Purgatory.

Eliab - Purgatory host]

[ 25. September 2015, 07:50: Message edited by: Eliab ]

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The local lesbian sex toy shop has some lovely solid Pyrex dildos that have swirls in them like a paperweight.
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Lamb Chopped
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lilBuddha, you are SO on my list. [Razz]

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Boogie

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quote:
Originally posted by Lamb Chopped:

Are any dildoes aesthetically pleasing?

Is any penis worth looking at? I think function wins over form by a very long stretch with both, don't you?

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Doublethink.
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Many dildos are not designed to look like a penis. Consider googling "buy pure wand" if you are not at work.

Or just google njoy or lelo.

(I recommended the word buy on such a search to avoid getting mostly porn hits.)

[ 25. September 2015, 08:17: Message edited by: Doublethink. ]

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Here's another recent article.

quote:
the closest thing we have to a genuine sexbot is the RealDoll. A RealDoll is the most advanced sex doll in the world -- a sculpted “work of art,”... For a few thousand dollars a pop, customers can customize the doll’s hair color, skin tone, eyes, clothing and genitalia (removable, exchangeable, flaccid, hard) -- and then wait patiently for a coffin-sized box to arrive in the mail.
The article goes on to ask what if the sexbot is modelled like a child.

Is it wrong? I think there's something wrong with you if you don't think so.

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Hiro's Leap

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quote:
Originally posted by no prophet's flag is set so...:
Is it wrong? I think there's something wrong with you if you don't think so.

Are you arguing that RealDolls are self-evidently wrong, or that ones which look like children are?

Pretty much everybody would agree with the latter but ISTM that this is irrelevant for discussing sex robots. Otherwise you could just as well argue "child porn is wrong, so all porn is bad".

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Kelly Alves

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I read it as an aside, wondering why the author was asking such a silly question.

I have to say, I had no idea RealDoll had boy versions, although I can't think why I didn't. $6000 ain't that bad.

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Hiro's Leap

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quote:
Originally posted by Kelly Alves:
I read it as an aside, wondering why the author was asking such a silly question.

Ah, fair enough then. If that's the case, I totally agree it's a dumb question.

Personally, I can't see the appeal of realistic sex robots - that's not a judgement in any way, just my preferences. And for non-sexual touch I'd infinitely prefer this.

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Kelly Alves

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Like I said elsewhere, the one big advantage of the doll over the dildo would be, um, practice snogging.

They do sell the head seperately, but dear God, that's ghastly. Too Reanimator.

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Kelly Alves

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(Link won't work for me, but I am guessing "kitten.") [Big Grin]

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Hiro's Leap

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quote:
Originally posted by Kelly Alves:
(Link won't work for me, but I am guessing "kitten.") [Big Grin]

Almost. A chair full of Labrador puppies.
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quote:
Originally posted by Boogie:
Is any penis worth looking at? I think function wins over form by a very long stretch with both, don't you?

One word: zipper.

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Paul.
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quote:
Originally posted by Hiro's Leap:
quote:
Originally posted by no prophet's flag is set so...:
Is it wrong? I think there's something wrong with you if you don't think so.

Are you arguing that RealDolls are self-evidently wrong, or that ones which look like children are?

Pretty much everybody would agree with the latter but ISTM that this is irrelevant for discussing sex robots. Otherwise you could just as well argue "child porn is wrong, so all porn is bad".

That indeed would be a simplistic argument but I don't think that makes that aspect irrelevant. Raising the potential negative applications of new technology ISTM is always worthwhile, given how we're apt to adopt new stuff and worry about the side-effects later.

The main thing that worries me is what it does to us to treat something that deliberately looks, sounds, feels as human as possible... to treat that thing as a thing. What then happens to the way we treat other humans?

In fact we'll probably end up treating the sex-robots a bit more "kindly" than we would our toaster or TV, and pat ourselves on the back maybe, but IMO that's worse because it'll lower our standards for how we treat other people whilst giving us a false sense of altruism.

And I don't think sex is necessarily that special in this regard. It is a little bit because of the associations with love, intimacy and our identity etc. But in many ways having robots that do anything for us, that we can then treat as sub-human, because they literally aren't human, wouldn't be good for us. The big difference is that the robot that drives your car won't look human. Even the ones that will look sort of human - waiters, maids, service positions generally - will probably be more stylised versions, because why bother*?

Which is not to say ban them, but let's maybe talk about the subject a bit.


(*Although if the sex-bot industry pioneers the tech, and especially solves the uncanny valley problem, then that will I guess make it cheap enough for other industries to use it 'off-the-shelf')

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Alogon
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quote:
Originally posted by Schroedinger's cat:
accepting sex as something distinct from a relationship is damaging. By making them more engaging (i.e. less of a blow up doll), there is a danger that some people will then not develop any ability to have a relationship with a real human.

It would be a drop in the bucket. People have sex all the time who are incapable of a long-term relationship. This is nothing new? What's the "oldest profession"? It's when they, and their hapless partners, mistakenly believe that they are capable that trouble starts. Divorce, spousal abuse, on and on... long live substitutes for those who know their limitations.

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mousethief

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quote:
Originally posted by Boogie:
quote:
Originally posted by Lamb Chopped:
Are any dildoes aesthetically pleasing?

Is any penis worth looking at? I think function wins over form by a very long stretch with both, don't you?
Heh. Heh. "Very long stretch." Heh.

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