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Moo
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Originally posted by Golden Key:
Re stair rods:
ISTM there'd be great danger of tripping on them. Is there??
A properly installed stair rod is located right at the junction of the rise and the very back of the step. There is no space between them.
The only way I can imagine a problem is if the step is very short front-to-back.
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Brenda Clough
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Carpet (wall-to-wall, AKA fitted) is actually not so nice. Rugs (oriental rugs, dhurries, etc.) are more flexible and easier to keep clean -- you can take a rug out and shake it, especially if you have teenaged boys to do it.
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Piglet
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Originally posted by Galloping Granny:
... cork tiles ...GG
Our last house had cork tiles in the kitchen, which would have been fine and dandy if they'd just been on the floor. But no - they were on the walls as well ...
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Lamb Chopped
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Originally posted by Moo:
quote:
Originally posted by Golden Key:
Re stair rods:
ISTM there'd be great danger of tripping on them. Is there??
A properly installed stair rod is located right at the junction of the rise and the very back of the step. There is no space between them.
The only way I can imagine a problem is if the step is very short front-to-back.
Moo
Frustratingly, a LOT of stairs round these parts are extremely short front-to-back. We had to take our basement stairs out and replace them with a dog-leg version because the people who originally built them were apparently Lilliputians.
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Ariel
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Originally posted by Piglet:
Our last house had cork tiles in the kitchen, which would have been fine and dandy if they'd just been on the floor. But no - they were on the walls as well ...
It may be that they had a surplus after finishing off the kitchen and just decided to use them up instead of throwing them out or keeping them on spec for years in case of damage to the floor ones.
Either that or they quite enjoyed a bit of indoor parkour.
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Scots lass
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Originally posted by St Deird:
... accidentally shot an arrow through the floor, it was easily patched so you couldn't even tell where he'd done it.
I would quite like to know more about this incident!
We bought a house with carpets everywhere at the end of last year, except the former kitchen which has staggeringly ugly 1970s tiles on the floor. It is still a source of much joy to look at the vinyl that now covers the kitchen and bathroom floors, instead of the hideous carpets. The kitchen one especially I kept spilling things on. Our plan is to sand the floorboards in the hallway and dining room for ease of cleaning, then have carpets everywhere else for warmth. We have neither pets, nor allergies so can get away with it.
I know my mother would prefer to have wall to wall carpet, but they had to put down wood flooring in their hallway to make it easier for her wheelchair. I think it looks better, and she appears to have got to like it - although they've kept carpets in the living and bedrooms (I don't think my dad really notices such things).
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Piglet
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At some point in the 1970s, my parents carpeted over the nice maple floor in the sitting-room of the ancestral pile. ![[Eek!]](eek.gif)
I hope that when the time comes for us to have to sell it, we'll be able either to have it uncovered, or at least get the estate agent to tell prospective buyers that it's there.
At least the wood in the hall, stairs and landing is still visible.
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Dennis the Menace
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We have timber polished floors in all rooms except kitchen, bathroom and laundry. Neither of us are carpet fans. We moved into our current house in 2005 to find some once very good quality wool carpet in beige/orange/brown tones in the front part and some extremely nasty acrylic sh*te in the back part. We waited a couple of months to lift the carpet to find to our amazement that the floors had been sanded and polished by previous owners so the job was relatively easy. The amount of dirt and dust from the carpets was incredible. As we live in a warm climate the cool of the timber beneath our feet is very welcome in the summer months and we cope very well with the short mild winters. We find the house seems much 'cleaner' without carpet.
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Brenda Clough
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I am facing the costly prospect of taking out a quantity of 20-year old wall to wall carpet. The question is what to put in its place. Underneath is a concrete slab, which I have toyed with the idea of epoxying or staining in some thrilling hue, but that will be expensive. I am probably going to slam down the cheapest possible ceramic tile, ideally the kind that looks like planks of wood.
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St Deird
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Originally posted by Scots lass:
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Originally posted by St Deird:
... accidentally shot an arrow through the floor, it was easily patched so you couldn't even tell where he'd done it.
I would quite like to know more about this incident!
My father is an archer, and an engineer. Did his PhD on the physics of arrow flight.
When one is interested in archery physics, one occasionally has to measure things. When one is convincing one's wife to help out, one will come inside so that she's warm and cosy, and more easily convinced. When one is drawing back a bow to measure the draw length, and one is safety conscious, then one will put an arrow on the string (a bow, minus arrow, accidentally being released, will basically explode).
...and when you combine these things, you will, at least once, accidentally let go of a bow mid-measure and shoot an arrow directly through the floor.
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Dafyd
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Originally posted by St Deird:
a bow, minus arrow, accidentally being released, will basically explode
Does the force exerted on the string by the arrow really reduce the stress on the bow to that extent? Or is there some other effect that stops the bow exploding when there's an arrow on the string?
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mark_in_manchester
not waving, but...
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That intrigued me too. With my engineer's hat on, I would imagine that the presence of a load on the string (arrow) reduces the instantaneous acceleration the arms (?) of the bow can achieve as they convert stored potential (elastic) energy into kinetic energy. F=ma; F sounds like it is fixed by the tension in the bow so if 'm' is low 'a' gets very large. Since the displacement or excursion of the arms (sorry) is directly proportional to acceleration, I guess you risk a peak-displacement-related or 'strain' failure (as opposed to a peak-tension or 'stress' failure, if you pulled it too hard and snapped it). Peak-displacement failure sounds like 'it explodes' to me! ![[Smile]](smile.gif)
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jacobsen
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I'm sure you're right, MiM, but now need to lie down in a darkened room....
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Piglet
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I think I may come and join you. ![[Killing me]](graemlins/killingme.gif)
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Alan Cresswell
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One of the (physics) students here is an archer. I feel an experiment coming on ... but maybe at the archery range on campus where there are no floors to shoot.
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jedijudy
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We will need a report, Alan!!
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Piglet
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With a video. And an explanation in words understandable for the piglet of very little brain. ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif)
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Sparrow
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Originally posted by Piglet:
quote:
Originally posted by Galloping Granny:
... cork tiles ...GG
Our last house had cork tiles in the kitchen, which would have been fine and dandy if they'd just been on the floor. But no - they were on the walls as well ...
The first flat of my own, I can only assume the previous owners liked brown. Brown lino in the kitchen, brown lino and brown painted walls in the bathroom. And in the living room ... the "feature wall" was dark brown cork tiles. All over.
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St Deird
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As I understand it:
- bows create force
- all the force has to go somewhere
- if there's an arrow, it all goes into the arrow
- if there's no arrow, it pulls the bow apart
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Leorning Cniht
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Originally posted by Piglet:
With a video. And an explanation in words understandable for the piglet of very little brain.
You know how if you grasp a piece of dry spaghetti at the ends and snap it, it breaks into three or more pieces?
It's like that. The first spaghetti snap is like you releasing the bow and allowing it to spring back freely (with no arrow). The second (and subsequent?) spaghetti snaps occur in the limbs of the bow. (As MiM says, it's a peak strain thing).
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jacobsen
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Originally posted by St Deird:
As I understand it:
- bows create force
- all the force has to go somewhere
- if there's an arrow, it all goes into the arrow
- if there's no arrow, it pulls the bow apart
St. Deird, have you considered applying for the post of Ship's Elucidator of Arcane Material? SEAM would fill the empty gaps in your life and bring you unending praise and thanks. You might even get chocolate ![[Yipee]](graemlins/spin.gif)
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Piglet
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# 11803
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Originally posted by St Deird:
As I understand it:
- bows create force
- all the force has to go somewhere
- if there's an arrow, it all goes into the arrow
- if there's no arrow, it pulls the bow apart
Thank you. ![[Overused]](graemlins/notworthy.gif)
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