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Doublethink.
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quote: Originally posted by Firenze: quote: Originally posted by churchgeek: But the other signs were there: not enjoying anything, feeling bored and listless with everything, having no energy or motivation, feeling irritable, getting angry quickly...
That's depression? Bugger.
It is when out of sync with life, can also be grief.
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Evensong
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quote: Originally posted by Soror Magna: quote: Originally posted by Evensong: ... Present me with a completely fucked up issue (Patdy's OP) and I usually automatically go into "Data" mode. ...
Nobody wants your fucking data mode when they're depressed. Got it? Your "automatic data mode" means you're not thinking about the other person, you're thinking about your awesomely incredible ability to solve other people's problems with your amazing "data mode".
Oh looky here. Horor Magma has done Counselling 101.
*claps hands in delight*
You might want to try Reading for Context 101 next semester.
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You know, I realize that it can be confusing or intimidating when the angry sad people wave the clue sticks at you. But, really, they're just standard symbolic clue sticks, and not meant to pantomime that they intend to pull the stick out of your ass that makes you so amazingly socially inappropriate.
[whispers] Do you call that stick "clenchy"? Fight clenchy. He's not doing you any favours. [/whispers]
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Niteowl
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Having had the black dog somewhat backed off over the years, he's come roaring back recently. What pisses me off is the attitude of other people who think that depression is no big deal and those who suffer from it simply need to get their act together. Christians especially piss me off with the "you just need to be more thankful and have a spirit of praise and you'd be over it" speech.
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Evensong
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quote: Originally posted by RooK: [whispers] Do you call that stick "clenchy"? Fight clenchy. He's not doing you any favours. [/whispers]
[whispers back] You're a terrible judge of character. I'm one of the ones that runs to the toilet in the morning after my coffee and cigarette. Sometimes it catches me in the middle of the Morning Office. Terrible business. [/whispers]
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Sigh
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Evensong
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It's best if you do it this way Latchkey:
*sigh*
Heightens the dramatic tension.*
* No fee this time.
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Pyx_e
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quote: I'm one of the ones that runs to the toilet in the morning after my coffee and cigarette. Sometimes it catches me in the middle of the Morning Office.
That could be a perfectly legitimate psychosomatic reaction to your the smashing together of the holiness of the office, common sense and the ever present knowledge of your “I am as crazy as a squirrel on LSD” ways.
Fly Safe Dude, Pyx_e
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George Spigot
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I'm my case as in many others depression is cause by a chemical imbalance. So I agree completely with the OP and others that it's a lie. A distortion of reality.
However I interpreted Evensongs questions and posts a little differently than her detractors.
Depression can also be brought on by true things. If instead of sticking your head in the sand you actualy take a proper look at the world you will notice how very fucked it is right now. It's very insidious in this light to be patted on the head by Dr's and politicians and told that everythings just fine, it's all in your head, just keep taking your pills.
So some forms of depression can in fact be truth.
And just to add...
Depression is the morning when you discover that smiling and responding with "I'm fine" feels like it would take the energy equivalent of running three marathons.
Depression is the night you discover with shock that the phrase "it felt like rats were gnawing on my stomach" isn't a fictional cliche.
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quote: Originally posted by alienfromzog: I think my black dog is beaten.
I think.
He still follows me around all the time. It's been over ten years now since he did any real damage but he still keeps on following me. He seems to think that one day he'll be able to catch me again. Maybe he's right. He does keep plodding along behind me expectantly. He's got closer recently than for a long time, but not too close. Not yet.
Like most dogs, he's loyal and likes to stick close to his old master. Just in case he gets thrown another bone. And out of habit, sometimes we can't help ourselves.
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Erroneous Monk
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quote: Originally posted by alienfromzog: And the worst part is anhedonia because most of the time I can stay ok by distraction anhedonia makes distraction impossible
This. This. This.
I have chronic moderate to severe depression. In my last severe episode I couldn't either remember, or imagine, what it felt like to want to do *anything*.
I'm OK right now, but for those of you who aren't, just the fact that you're here, putting your hands up, makes things better. Your very existence consolidates me. You are my sisters and brothers. If there's anything I can do...
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Yep. When it hits me I become like the crew of the Black Pearl, wholly unable to appreciate even the finer things in life - it all becomes like dust.
Praise the Lord and pass the venlafaxine.
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quote: Originally posted by Evensong: You're a terrible judge of character.
I think I've got a new title.
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quote: Originally posted by RooK: quote: Originally posted by Evensong: You're a terrible judge of character.
I think I've got a new title.
RooK, don’t reward her. Evensong's the sort who stops at road accidents to observe the lacerations, the pools of blood, the groaning and cries for help, etc., and then, when the medics arrive, expects them to begin by treating the nausea she’s developed as a result of stopping and observing.
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Oh what a pile of tedious bullshit. Evensong is very obviously a quite lovely human being in real life, and if you cannot get a sense of that because or despite what she posts on this discussion forum, and if you're so terribly fond of your cynical opinion of her character that you'll slag her off publicly, well then you're a bit of a cunt, frankly.
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George Spigot
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quote: Originally posted by Yorick: Oh what a pile of tedious bullshit. Evensong is very obviously a quite lovely human being in real life, and if you cannot get a sense of that because or despite what she posts on this discussion forum, and if you're so terribly fond of your cynical opinion of her character that you'll slag her off publicly, well then you're a bit of a cunt, frankly.
Also her posts aren't out of order in a hell thread.
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RooK
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In the spirit of Evensong's systematic misinterpretation of everything, I decided to assume she meant definition #2 for "terrible".
As for Yorick's re-re-re-re-re-re...re-bungling of the applicability of Real Truth™, just sit back and admire the hilarious hypocrisy of it all. How dare we form negative opinions of people just because of the horrible and loathsome ideas they express?
Mind you, the part that continues to amuse me is how Yorick and Evensong persist in being surprised and blithe about this dynamic. Sincerely, both of you: Yorick and Evensong - please never change. You mean so well (and so will probably always be welcome here) and yet are like bacon-flavoured plutonium for my smugness reactor. I really can't thank you enough.
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Yorick
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I do so love to please.
Look, I don’t know what she’s like any more than anyone else, but it’s my opinion that she’s lovely. The difference between me and the person who thinks she isn’t is that, being a bit of a cunt, they choose to think badly of her on the same basis that I think well of her, and they’re so proud of their judgement that they’ll publicly defame her character and thus vilify her in this community, in which she is deeply invested. All of which proves, rather neatly I think, that they’re a bit of a cunt.
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RooK your conversion of 'terrible judge of character' to 'terrible judge' is a screwing with the text that a biblical theologian would be proud of. And you thought we wouldn't corrupt your soul. Nice title but.
And thanks Sioni and Pyx_e for your posts. I needed to vent and be a bit shouty. Hell was exactly the right board. And I have no issues with a dissection of my post or thoughts.
And to those fighting the dog. And I suspect that is many more than I will ever know. I wish you well and will pray for you for what it is worth.
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QLib
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quote: Originally posted by George Spigot: I'm my case as in many others depression is cause by a chemical imbalance.
I'm not sure that chemical imbalance is established as a cause, is it? quote: So I agree completely with the OP and others that it's a lie. A distortion of reality.
Yes. quote: Depression can also be brought on by true things. If instead of sticking your head in the sand you actualy take a proper look at the world you will notice how very fucked it is right now. It's very insidious in this light to be patted on the head by Dr's and politicians and told that everythings just fine, it's all in your head, just keep taking your pills.
So some forms of depression can in fact be truth.
I think there's a difference between getting depressed about the state of the world and having Depression. Depression takes a truth like that and twists it. Maybe I've been very un/lucky, but I never found a doctor who told me just to take the tablets. Before I actually got tablets, I had to sit through lectures about examining my lifestyle etc. And, in a way they were right - but you can't sort out anything much in the grip of depression. For many years I swore that, if I ever got in that state again, I would say: "Spare me the lecture and just givemethe fuckingtablets!"
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Evensong
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quote: Originally posted by Pyx_e: quote: I'm one of the ones that runs to the toilet in the morning after my coffee and cigarette. Sometimes it catches me in the middle of the Morning Office.
That could be a perfectly legitimate psychosomatic reaction to your the smashing together of the holiness of the office, common sense and the ever present knowledge of your “I am as crazy as a squirrel on LSD” ways.
Fly Safe Dude, Pyx_e
LSD? You're totally showing your age. I never got past buying a bundle of pot (aged 17) and not being able to smoke it all.
And you called me Dude.
Does that mean we're biffles now?
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AberVicar
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quote: Originally posted by Evensong: LSD? You're totally showing your age. I never got past buying a bundle of pot (aged 17) and not being able to smoke it all.
And you called me Dude.
Does that mean we're biffles now?
I think you're showing your age. At least around here LSD and modern derivatives have made a comeback over the past five years.
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The Riv
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quote: Originally posted by Yorick: I do so love to please.
Look, I don’t know what she’s like any more than anyone else, but it’s my opinion that she’s lovely. The difference between me and the person who thinks she isn’t is that, being a bit of a cunt, they choose to think badly of her on the same basis that I think well of her, and they’re so proud of their judgement that they’ll publicly defame her character and thus vilify her in this community, in which she is deeply invested. All of which proves, rather neatly I think, that they’re a bit of a cunt.
Erm, it's Hell, idn't it?
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quote: Originally posted by The Riv: quote: Originally posted by Yorick: I do so love to please.
Look, I don’t know what she’s like any more than anyone else, but it’s my opinion that she’s lovely. The difference between me and the person who thinks she isn’t is that, being a bit of a cunt, they choose to think badly of her on the same basis that I think well of her, and they’re so proud of their judgement that they’ll publicly defame her character and thus vilify her in this community, in which she is deeply invested. All of which proves, rather neatly I think, that they’re a bit of a cunt.
Erm, it's Hell, idn't it?
Hell is where you boldly exercise your prerogative to be a huge cunt, and where you express flabbergasted outrage at other people being a huge cunt. I think Yorick nailed it, don't you?
(Awaits RooKian shaft aimed at huge cunt reference.Lays self out on altar of humor.)
(Fully aware of pun.)
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daronmedway
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A couple of months away from the ship and what do I find upon my return? A perfectly good thread about depression turd-balling into a ground-hog of abuse because of someone's annoying but clearly accidental insensitivity. You guys should really get out more. Blimey.
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Pyx_e
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quote: Originally posted by daronmedway: A couple of months away from the ship and what do I find upon my return? A perfectly good thread about depression turd-balling into a ground-hog of abuse because of someone's annoying but clearly accidental insensitivity. You guys should really get out more. Blimey.
Two hours away from the ship and what do I find on my return ........
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Kelly Alves
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quote: Originally posted by daronmedway: A couple of months away from the ship and what do I find upon my return? A perfectly good thread about depression turd-balling into a ground-hog of abuse because of someone's annoying but clearly accidental insensitivity. You guys should really get out more. Blimey.
IM personal O, these crossover threads are beginning to confuse people. One minute they hear "Take your crybaby shit to AS, cupcake; this is not the place for compassion": and the next they are being screamed at for insensitivity.
Whatever, people were turning it into a venting communal rant thread, and there is precedent for that as per "Fuck Cancer", and I joined in.
And at some point last night,I felt a choice was before me:
1. I could scream at Schrodenger's cat for overreacting to Evensong's somewhat clod-hopping but genuine expression of cluelessness. (But this is Hell, he can do that.)
2. I could scream at Evensong for gleefully swimming over and jamming the great big hook straight into her mouth. (but this is Hell, she can do that.)
3. I could climb into my big warm bed and self-soothe by hating everyone on the planet, all at once.
And I thought to myself- what would RooK do?
Adirondack comforters are the best, do you know that? Will never go back, now I've tried them.
(On that note-- RooK, you have been going through a period of astonishing beauty lately.) [ 15. January 2013, 17:11: Message edited by: Kelly Alves ]
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Anselmina
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quote: Originally posted by daronmedway: A couple of months away from the ship and what do I find upon my return? A perfectly good thread about depression turd-balling into a ground-hog of abuse because of someone's annoying but clearly accidental insensitivity. You guys should really get out more. Blimey.
Well, I guess that makes you the guy who goes along poking turds with his stick, yelling 'Turd!'.
Or did you have something useful to say here apropos your own criticism of the thread?
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The Riv
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quote: Originally posted by Pyx_e: quote: Originally posted by daronmedway: A couple of months away from the ship and what do I find upon my return? A perfectly good thread about depression turd-balling into a ground-hog of abuse because of someone's annoying but clearly accidental insensitivity. You guys should really get out more. Blimey.
Two hours away from the ship and what do I find on my return ........
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AberVicar
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quote: Originally posted by Anselmina: Well, I guess that makes you the guy who goes along poking turds with his stick, yelling 'Turd!'.
You have those in Ireland too?
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quote: Originally posted by Kelly Alves:
(Awaits RooKian shaft aimed at huge cunt reference.Lays self out on altar of humor.)
(Fully aware of pun.)
Perhaps Rook feels such an easy person, erm target, not worthy the effort. I admit I was sorely tempted as the Circus has not yet deemed itself worthy of a certain thread's return.
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Kelly Alves
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There's a backstory to that. Way back in the salad days of Hell, I accused RooK of having a teenie weenie, and he called me Cavernous Kelly the Loose. Good times, good times...
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quote: Originally posted by AberVicar: quote: Originally posted by Anselmina: Well, I guess that makes you the guy who goes along poking turds with his stick, yelling 'Turd!'.
You have those in Ireland too?
It's a fairly international occupation! Everyone's got to have a job of some sort, I suppose.
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Evensong
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quote: Originally posted by Kelly Alves: IM personal O, these crossover threads are beginning to confuse people. One minute they hear "Take your crybaby shit to AS, cupcake; this is not the place for compassion": and the next they are being screamed at for insensitivity.
True story.
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Sioni Sais
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quote: Originally posted by Evensong: quote: Originally posted by Kelly Alves: IM personal O, these crossover threads are beginning to confuse people. One minute they hear "Take your crybaby shit to AS, cupcake; this is not the place for compassion": and the next they are being screamed at for insensitivity.
True story.
Sure is. Hence my Hostly notice from only two days ago (but on the previous page).
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quote: Originally posted by Anselmina: Like most dogs, he's loyal and likes to stick close to his old master. Just in case he gets thrown another bone. And out of habit, sometimes we can't help ourselves.
So so true...
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I think it’s very unkind to have a go at Evensong when one of her protectors is away. Remember – if you get too close to forcing her to actually engage on her interesting interpersonal skills, one of her personal support team will get shouty and then the thread will be closed and deleted (rather than archived) like last time.
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QLib
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Somebody will be along in a minute to accuse Evensong of making this thread all about her.
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quote: Originally posted by passer: I think it’s very unkind to have a go at Evensong when one of her protectors is away. Remember – if you get too close to forcing her to actually engage on her interesting interpersonal skills, one of her personal support team will get shouty and then the thread will be closed and deleted (rather than archived) like last time.
I don’t follow Evensong closely enough to know which protectors you are talking about. From what I have seen so far, Evensong seems perfectly capable of defending herself on these boards. She has a big girl panty and wears it pretty well, me finks.
[tangent] You seem to think that a (Evensong) thread being deleted (rather than archived) is a bad thing. As someone who has witlessly made a dogmeat of a thread on this board not that long ago, I can only say that I am deeply grateful to the hosts and admin on this board for their kind consideration in deleting the thread rather than archiving it. I think it’s a kindness that has often gone unnoticed and under-appreciated by Shipmates. Perhaps it’s because I am not as smart as many of you that I value this kindness more. But can anyone on these boards (especially in Hell) be sure that he or she will never need a little kind consideration from the hosts someday? [/tangent]
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The Riv
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So, you're saying Evensong is fat?
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quote: Originally posted by Pooks: Perhaps it’s because I am not as smart as many of you that I value this kindness more.
Don't underestimate your wit and intelligence, Pooks. Were it not for you, I would never have learned that comparing someone to a Jane Austen character was the most biting criticism one could make in Hell.
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Sioni Sais
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quote: Originally posted by passer: I think it’s very unkind to have a go at Evensong when one of her protectors is away. Remember – if you get too close to forcing her to actually engage on her interesting interpersonal skills, one of her personal support team will get shouty and then the thread will be closed and deleted (rather than archived) like last time.
What the fuck are you on about?
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quote: Originally posted by Patdys: Could the tangent please stop.
Good luck with that (and I'm not trying to be sarcastic, but I can't find a way to say it that doesn't look that way on an internet bulletin board).
Patdys, I've been here long enough to know what p-a-t-d-y-s stands for--not just your moniker, but a bit about what you stand for as a person. There have been times I stalked your posts--because you (like Pyx_e and a few others) have a way of saying something that makes me go "Hmmm...I hadn't thought of that." When I saw the OP, though, I wasn't sure what your intent was--nor did it really become clearer when others began to post (no real surprise there, I suppose).
Did you intend to call depression to Hell because it had destroyed the family of which you spoke? Did you mean to call depression to Hell because of your own fight, which was made harder by the grief of this funeral? Did you mean this to be a depression equivalent of the cancer thread? Did you just mean to rail against the dying of the light?
The answer to any one of those questions could have directed the thread on very different pathways. None of them, it seems to me, would be unworthy of your Hell call--but if I was a bit confused (being pre-disposed to take your contributions seriously) it's no surprise that other shipmates took the thread in its own meandering direction.
...which brings me back to my first observation, the one I can't seem to get the seeming-snarkiness out of. You've been here longer than I have, and you don't need me to remind you that it is rare for an OPer to get a second chance to direct a thread's discussion...especially in Hell...especially on page 2. If you clarify your original intent a bit, though, I for one will respect it.
I doubt everyone will, but I don't expect to be the only one who does.
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Sioni Sais
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FYBD for what you do to my team leader and friend D. He's been recovering pretty well from a combination of depression, anxiety, guilt underpinned by PTSD, and last night he went over the top and down again.
Get off him, evil damned dog and give him his life back.
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what is depressing me these days is that my current treatment isn't working anymore. I've tried every anti-depressant known to humankind and none of them work... well, I've been on Zoloft off and on for years and years but at 200 mg/daily, the stuff just doesn't do anything anymore.
Here is some advice, though, for anyone who might benefit. I did a medical research study last year for a medication that is in extremely limited use at the moment. It's not 100% Ketamine, but it is, as the doctors told me, "a cousin of Ketamine". This medicine worked so damn well that it completely stopped the depression for the three months I was in the study!! And, I'm still feeling some of the effects, just not as well as I did when I was getting weekly infusions of it.
If any of you are really in a bad way, this "cousin of Ketamine" has been shown to completely reverse moderate to severe depression symptoms in less than twenty-four hours! Unfortunately, I was enrolled in the 2nd Tier of the study and it has to go through one more tier and then on to the F.D.A. for approval and whatever equivalent government body in other countries. The side effects were minimal for me and the suppression/reversal of depression far outweighed the slight negatives. It's an infusion and the needles aren't small but it was well worth it. I'm now trying to get into a new study that uses just straight Ketamine, no "cousins" involved!
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Are Evensong or Rook the Black Dog? No. Can we, as has been mentioned, get back to the subject? I have just found out I have depression and can't believe the way this has gone. Could we get back to the OP please.
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quote: Originally posted by Hugal: Are Evensong or Rook the Black Dog? No. Can we, as has been mentioned, get back to the subject? I have just found out I have depression and can't believe the way this has gone. Could we get back to the OP please.
and FYBD on your behalf, Hugal.
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