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Thread: Katie Hopkins: 'I'm the new Jesus'
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lilBuddha
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quote: Originally posted by Twilight:
I never thought I would say this, but we have insulted Ann Coulter.
Lol is used to indicate humour. In this case I really did laugh out loud.
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That really is very badly controlled epilepsy, will cause gradual detoriation of mental function - and she definitely does have a higher risk of sudden death.
It may be that her theory of mind, empathy and social understanding are lessening over time.
Very sad for her and her family.
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Rosa Winkel
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Whether the S*n knew about that when they hired her to write controversial columns, they kept her on after her openly racist column about refugees, didn't they?. Reading the interview with her, I don't hate her like I thought I would, just that the likes of the S*n are utter twats for giving her an audience.
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Albertus
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Cynical twats, too, exploiting someone who seems actually to be quite vulnerable. Not all that different really from the people who gather at the bottom of a building and urge the person threatening suicide standing on the windowsill to jump.
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Sioni Sais
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I wouldn't hold my epilepsy responsible in any way for any of my occasionally irrational and vitriolic outbursts (see posts passim: that's just me. It has (with some help from generally effective anti-convulsant medication) screwed up my memory, it does put me in hospital from time to time and anyone with tonic-clonic (grand mal) epilepsy is, like me, at risk of sudden death.
Katie Hopkins is, IMHO, a self-publicist using her epilepsy to make a living. In doing so however she does others with epilepsy no favours whatsoever. Are we are all rude and vindictive? Are we all so overbearingly arrogant? Are we all going to pop our clogs at any moment? Many of us with epilepsy find getting and keeping a job quite hard enough already, so we often keep it under wraps, even if we tell our employers and immediate co-workers.
Katie Hopkins, STFU.
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Twilight
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quote: Originally posted by Albertus: But seriously, and I know it's not very hellish to say so, I think we should be praying for her (and people like her). It is a horrible and very sad thing to see the divine image so distorted in a person.
Well you were right Albertus. I even saw her humanity slip through for a second when the interviewer said, "But you named your child Indie," and you could see her thinking, "No but wait, I'm only hired to be outrageous, leave my child out of this!"
Worse is now I'm going to feel bad about annoying Sioni so much -- until tomorrow when we've both forgot all this.
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SvitlanaV2
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quote: Originally posted by Schroedinger's cat: This incident is liable to reflect on the Christian faith, to an extent. Many people will assume (from the basic reporting of this) that Christianity is very much in line with Hopkins views.
quote: Originally posted by Rosa Winkel: There was a really interesting article with her in The Guardian:
http://www.theguardian.com/media/2015/jul/18/katie-hopkins-jon-ronson-interview
I was interested to read in the link that her parents are Methodists, but she doesn't identify as a Christian herself, does she? (I wonder if the Methodist Recorder has written about her Methodist roots? That would be ... interesting.)
In any case, I can't imaging that claiming to be the 'new Jesus' would make everyone assume that you're somehow speaking for Christianity. If it does, that says something truly fascinating about the popular understanding of religion. Mostly, that the churches ought to pack up and go home, because absolutely no one is paying attention!
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Beenster
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quote: Originally posted by Sioni Sais: I wouldn't hold my epilepsy responsible in any way for any of my occasionally irrational and vitriolic outbursts (see posts passim: that's just me. It has (with some help from generally effective anti-convulsant medication) screwed up my memory, it does put me in hospital from time to time and anyone with tonic-clonic (grand mal) epilepsy is, like me, at risk of sudden death.
Another one checking in. KH does a grave dis-service to many of us epileptics trying to live a normal life. I grew up with immense prejudice and awkwardness around my epilepsy. it's not long since people with this condition were locked away, some still are because their condition is just uncontrollable. I worry / am concerned that she will set back the clock of understanding towards epileptics and marginalisation will be enhanced or we will be likened // put in the same category as that dork.
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anne
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Another one here too. I had wondered about a possible connection between Ms Hopkins' epilepsy - or her medication - and her behaviour. It's not impossible, but it's no excuse. If, for example, a heightened awareness of her own mortality, means that she wants to make lots of money to safeguard a future for her unfortunately named children, there are lots of ways to do that that other than being a rent-a-bitch for the media.
I have epilepsy. I am sometimes a vindictive cow. I don't get to use the one as an excuse for the other, and neither does Ms Hopkins.
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North East Quine
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Originally posted by Rosa Winkel: quote: Whether the S*n knew about that when they hired her to write controversial columns, they kept her on after her openly racist column about refugees, didn't they?
Originally posted by Albertus: quote: Cynical twats, too, exploiting someone who seems actually to be quite vulnerable. Not all that different really from the people who gather at the bottom of a building and urge the person threatening suicide standing on the windowsill to jump.
It's not just the Sun who kept her on after her openly racist column; the Church and Media Conference invited her to speak! Were they hoping that she would say something like "I'm the new Jesus" which would get their conference column inches in the newspapers?
Whether she's vile or vulnerable, the Church and Media conference stand shoulder-to-shoulder with the Sun in encouraging her.
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Boogie
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quote: Originally posted by North East Quine: It's not just the Sun who kept her on after her openly racist column; the Church and Media Conference invited her to speak! Were they hoping that she would say something like "I'm the new Jesus" which would get their conference column inches in the newspapers?
Clearly the Church is learning its publicity seeking skills directly from her. Maybe she's giving seminars?
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Schroedinger's cat
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quote: Originally posted by SvitlanaV2: In any case, I can't imaging that claiming to be the 'new Jesus' would make everyone assume that you're somehow speaking for Christianity. If it does, that says something truly fascinating about the popular understanding of religion. Mostly, that the churches ought to pack up and go home, because absolutely no one is paying attention!
I suspect that no-one is paying attention.
I don't mean that there will be an assumption that Hopkins is speaking for Christianity as such. It is more that it would appear that the church - and so Christianity - seems to be condoning Hopkins views. I think that is dangerous, because her views are abhorrent.
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SvitlanaV2
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Oh I see - you mean because it was a 'Christian' event? But I imagine very few people even knew it was happening because, after all, it was only a 'Christian' event....
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Why was she invited? The organisers (who are trying hard to keep names from the public at present) argue that they merely invite a variety of opinions. What utter bullshit. Who will they invite next?
K.
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Doc Tor
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I'm always available to give them an alternative opinion. Inexplicably, I've never been invited.
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quote: Originally posted by Komensky: The organisers (who are trying hard to keep names from the public at present) argue that they merely invite a variety of opinions.
It's not exactly a secret. Their names and faces are a matter of public record.
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