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Ariel: See, this is why you can't trust these left-wing types. They want to abolish the monarchy, scrap all our defences and borders, and force us all to wear khaki dungarees and boiler suits.
The first two are diversion tactics really to get to the third one which is our main goal.
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Ariel
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Yes I know. National Service and proper haircuts, that's what you lot need.
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What is this thing, called a 'haircut'? ![[Confused]](confused.gif)
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Ariel
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Don't worry about it. Just get a wig to cover that bald head in the cold weather.
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Sioni Sais
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Originally posted by Ariel:
Don't worry about it. Just get a wig to cover that bald head in the cold weather.
No need for a wig. All military uniforms include a hat of some sort.
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Originally posted by Firenze:
I never see the abbreviated title of this thread but i want to complete it as 'To all the lefties who from their Labour rest...'
Getting Jeremy elected as Labour leader was just the first step. Comrades! It is not time to rest! It is time to press ahead! Cleanse our land from the Capitalists! Reclaim our historic rights to wear beige jackets and unironed shirts with the top button undone!
But comrade, buttons are surely a last remnant of petty bourgeois individualism. As Gramsci said in his last manuscript, the old is dying, the new cannot be born, and these fucking zips are a pain, forward to velcro.
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But Velcro is manufactured by a private company, so surely it is inherently capitalistic and exploitative?
I'm afraid you'll have to stick with Paddington Bear-style toggles.
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But Velcro is manufactured by a private company, so surely it is inherently capitalistic and exploitative?
I'm afraid you'll have to stick with Paddington Bear-style toggles.
On the other hand, Adorno's famous paper, 'Paddington Bear as a trope of the socially constructed 'fatal separation' between feeling and understanding', must give us pause.
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And anyway, why has nobody yet mentioned the AFAICS always very well-groomed John McDonnell?
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Firenze
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It's a lum hat government like a' the rest.
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Doublethink.
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Well, for the sake of collective blood pressure, I thought I'd note Corbyn was wearing a red poppy at PMQs. Happy now ?
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Sioni Sais
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Well, for the sake of collective blood pressure, I thought I'd note Corbyn was wearing a red poppy at PMQs. Happy now ?
Noted. Also that it is very much Prime Minister's Questions, not Prime Minister's Answers, nor even Prime Minister's Replies. Corbyn asked the same question six times without even getting a crooked, let alone a straight answer, out of Cameron.
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Originally posted by quetzalcoatl:
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Originally posted by Baptist Trainfan:
But Velcro is manufactured by a private company, so surely it is inherently capitalistic and exploitative?
I'm afraid you'll have to stick with Paddington Bear-style toggles.
On the other hand, Adorno's famous paper, 'Paddington Bear as a trope of the socially constructed 'fatal separation' between feeling and understanding', must give us pause.
That can't be its full title. All Proper Dissertations have to have a fancy title, followed by a colon and then the "real" title giving a clue to the content.
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Ariel
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Originally posted by Doublethink.:
Well, for the sake of collective blood pressure, I thought I'd note Corbyn was wearing a red poppy at PMQs. Happy now ?
It's a start. The journey of a thousand miles begins with one step.
"Soon after taking over, YouGov found [Corbyn] had a net satisfaction rating of -8 points. Now he is on -20."
Have a nice day. ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif)
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Alan Cresswell
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It is of course good to wear a Poppy at appropriate times. So, Corbyn wins by a) not getting the poppy out too early, and b) by not doing so where it would be an insult to a visiting head of state. Especially when that head of state represents one of the worlds largest economies, where British firms were hoping to gain a slice of the action before seeing said head of state insulted by our own PM.
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Ariel
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Originally posted by Alan Cresswell:
So, Corbyn wins by a) not getting the poppy out too early, and b) by not doing so where it would be an insult to a visiting head of state.
Or a) he hung on and only caved in under pressure and isn't wearing the white one which he presumably prefers, and b) the visiting head of state knows perfectly well it's the custom in England at this time, and the fact that a lot of people are wearing poppies around now is not a flash-mob co-ordinated reaction to his visit. I'm willing to bet that most people in Britain have either never even heard of the Opium Wars, or would have to think fairly hard to tell you anything about them, whereas they could very easily tell you about their grandfather in WW2 or relative who died in WW1.
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Originally posted by Baptist Trainfan:
But Velcro is manufactured by a private company, so surely it is inherently capitalistic and exploitative?
I'm afraid you'll have to stick with Paddington Bear-style toggles.
I always thought Velcro was a complete rip-off anyway.
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There is of course the old joke (probably told by a Scotsman) about the American tourist visiting a shop in Fort William. Her purse was closed by Velcro and, when she opened it to get her money out, the shopkeeper said, “That’s a good purse you’ve got. It even screams when you open it!"
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Alan Cresswell
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Originally posted by Ariel:
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Originally posted by Alan Cresswell:
So, Corbyn wins by a) not getting the poppy out too early, and b) by not doing so where it would be an insult to a visiting head of state.
Or a) he hung on and only caved in under pressure and isn't wearing the white one which he presumably prefers, and b) the visiting head of state knows perfectly well it's the custom in England at this time, and the fact that a lot of people are wearing poppies around now is not a flash-mob co-ordinated reaction to his visit. I'm willing to bet that most people in Britain have either never even heard of the Opium Wars, or would have to think fairly hard to tell you anything about them, whereas they could very easily tell you about their grandfather in WW2 or relative who died in WW1.
The PM wasn't wearing a poppy in the street along with everyone else, it was a deliberate choice to wear it when inviting someone into his own (OK, official) home. It is common courtesy, I would have thought, that having invited someone to your home you don't then go out of your way to insult them. You wouldn't invite a Jewish friend for dinner and serve pork, would you?
Also, the event was earlier than the "two weeks before Remembrance Day or Remembrance Sunday, which ever is later" that the Royal British Legion considers to be appropriate. So, at that time there wouldn't have been lots of poppies being worn - it's possible that part of the negotiations over timing for the event even included making sure it was held before people started to wear poppies (if I was in the diplomatic corps organising such an event it would certainly be a consideration), in which case there is someone somewhere seething about how the plans to avoid that particular potential diplomatic incident were torpedoed by a clueless PM.
Finally, the first time after the RBL consider it to be appropriate that Corbyn made a public appearance appears to be the first time he wore the poppy. All proper and above board and in accordance with the etiquette of the wearing of poppies.
Of course, he still got caught in Poppygate. Because he simply can't win.
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What evidence is there that the Chinese were offended by the poppies - or even that they asked that they not be worn?
Does the story come from an unnamed government official who said something like "The Chinese delegation asked us not to wear them, but we stood firm and explained how important they were to us"?
Searching for "poppy" in recent stories on the English-language website of Xinhua (China's official news agency) turns up no mention of the affair. Mostly they're about actual opium poppies, though I did find this story: Poppies that captured the hearts of five million to start their nationwide tour. It's about two giant sculptures in the Tower of London commemorating WWI - there's no mention of the Opium Wars. (China Daily reported the menu of Xi's state dinner at the White House, which included poppy seed bread, again with a notable lack of outrage at the insult.)
Did the government really stand up to China, or are they just pretending to have stood up to China, trying to slightly undercut the impression given by their ingratiating embrace of Xi and China's commercial opportunities?
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quetzalcoatl
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PMQs: what's the point if the PM refuses to answer the Qs?
It's a standard technique, isn't it? Many politicians are not actually trying to be honest and so on, but to present a persona; plus, of course, the right wing media can be assumed to defend the twats, sorry, the Tories, and keep up their anti-Corbyn spin.
It will be interesting to see how this pans out during the next couple of years. Making predictions in politics seems foolhardy these days, as it's all so volatile.
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Alan Cresswell
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Five years it was recognised as offensive, and the Chinese asked for them to be removed. Even the Daily Heil said so. Would things have changed that much that it hadn't even crossed someone's mind that things could be handled a bit more diplomatically given that it wasn't even into the traditional time to wear poppies? It was certainly anticipated from what I've seen of the news, here in the Times, for example, and still Cameron carried on.
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Sioni Sais
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Originally posted by quetzalcoatl:
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Originally posted by Doc Tor:
PMQs: what's the point if the PM refuses to answer the Qs?
It's a standard technique, isn't it? Many politicians are not actually trying to be honest and so on, but to present a persona; plus, of course, the right wing media can be assumed to defend the twats, sorry, the Tories, and keep up their anti-Corbyn spin.
It will be interesting to see how this pans out during the next couple of years. Making predictions in politics seems foolhardy these days, as it's all so volatile.
Back in the day when I worked in a part of the Civil Service that prepared responses to constituents that had come down the line from MPs it was emphasized that these were replies not answers.
This principle applies at every level of HMG and I expect in every government. You see and hear a lot of it in business and in most workplaces too. It's not peculiar to politics and government at all, still less to any ideology or party.
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But where's an actual quote from an actual Chinese source? This (from your Daily Mail link from 5 years ago):
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'When asked if it was a joke, the Chinese were stern-faced and said "No, we'd like you to remove them",' said one startled British aide.
'Clearly that was not an option so we tried to explain the importance of the poppy in Britain and informed them we would be wearing them all the same.'
is exactly the sort of anonymous sourced, self-serving "actually we were terribly firm and brave" statement I found this time around.
I can easily find an official Chinese statement condemning US provocations - where are the ones about poppies?
You say the Tories are trampling Chinese sensibilities; but maybe the Chinese don't actually care, and the Tories are really just pretending to stand tall and defend British tradition and memory in the face of Chinese pressure.
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quetzalcoatl
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Originally posted by Sioni Sais:
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Originally posted by quetzalcoatl:
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Originally posted by Doc Tor:
PMQs: what's the point if the PM refuses to answer the Qs?
It's a standard technique, isn't it? Many politicians are not actually trying to be honest and so on, but to present a persona; plus, of course, the right wing media can be assumed to defend the twats, sorry, the Tories, and keep up their anti-Corbyn spin.
It will be interesting to see how this pans out during the next couple of years. Making predictions in politics seems foolhardy these days, as it's all so volatile.
Back in the day when I worked in a part of the Civil Service that prepared responses to constituents that had come down the line from MPs it was emphasized that these were replies not answers.
This principle applies at every level of HMG and I expect in every government. You see and hear a lot of it in business and in most workplaces too. It's not peculiar to politics and government at all, still less to any ideology or party.
Very good point. I suppose Corbyn has presented himself as breaking with this, so I will be interested to see if he can manage it. I would think the pressure to conform will be high, esp. from right-wing Labour. And of course, the right-wing media.
It's also a bit like the emperor's clothes, you might not be thanked for pointing out official lies. But if you are Machiavellian about it, you might argue that 'we give the public that lies which they want'.
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Alan Cresswell
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Originally posted by Dave W.:
You say the Tories are trampling Chinese sensibilities; but maybe the Chinese don't actually care, and the Tories are really just pretending to stand tall and defend British tradition and memory in the face of Chinese pressure.
It's certainly possible that Cameron has played up a non-event to make him look like he's standing tall in the face of Chinese pressure. Juts ignore the man behind the curtain.
It's possible that the Chinese see a big opportunity to nab some lucrative contracts in the UK and make a load of dosh at the expense of the people of Britain. Of course, making sure there's just enough for UK businessmen who are big Tory supporters, many of who are in the government anyway, that they come out all right and Cameron can spin it as good for Britain - when what he means is good for him and his chums. The opportunity to buy Britain is too good to let the offence of a paper flower get in the way.
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Because it appears to matter, I would like to announce that I wear yoga pants to the engineering office. Along with a suitably Kool-Aid-drinking company-logo-emblazoned polo.
Tremble before my future-now GPTW sartorial acumen!
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Speaking tangentially off the cuff, I'm just wondering where the term "poppycock" comes from.
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From memory, I thought it came from the Dutch pappekak (sp?) meaning 'soft dung'. Or something like that.
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LeRoc
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That would make sense in Dutch.
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There is of course the old joke (probably told by a Scotsman) about the American tourist visiting a shop in Fort William. Her purse was closed by Velcro and, when she opened it to get her money out, the shopkeeper said, “That’s a good purse you’ve got. It even screams when you open it!"
BT cowers behind sofa to avoid flying haggises (all right, haggii), mostly thrown by his wife who is Scottish.
Better stay down while this American throws apple pie. Why does the purse owner have to be an American tourist? Wouldn't it work with anyone? Do all UK jokes just start on principle with, "An American tourist...?" (You know they do you rascals.)
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Satan called back a few days later, crying. He said, you have to come and get these guys. The priest forgave everybody, the Baptist saved them all and the televangelist raised enough money to put in air-conditioning.
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Why does the purse owner have to be an American tourist? Wouldn't it work with anyone?
You need to find someone who would plausibly own a velcro wallet ![[Snigger]](graemlins/snigger.gif)
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Hmmm ... when I was a kid back in the '60s and '70s there seemed to be quite a few US tourist jokes ... but I can't remember hearing any like that for years and years. I have found, though, that the French and Spanish have their own versions of US tourist jokes.
Mind you, I would risk an international incident were I to tell you some of the things I HAVE heard US tourists say ... for real ... or some of the things British people I know living in the US have been asked ... 'Do you have water in England?' and 'What language do you speak in England?' and so on ...
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That's too bad. All the British people who come all the way to Florida, to shop for things like Velcro wallets and pink plastic flamingoes, are all highly refined and stunningly brilliant.
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I used to have a velcro wallet, well not totally made o velcro - just velcro closure.
My issue with them isn't style, its that pocket lint clogs the velcro over time and then your money falls out ![[Frown]](frown.gif)
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Alan Cresswell
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My current wallet has a velcro closure, and it has served me very well for a long time (almost 8 years now).
But, I bought it in Florida. Just to demonstrate that I'm highly refined and stunningly brilliant. For some reason, we didn't get any pink flamingoes though.
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Alan Cresswell
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I don't know. I have a wallet that screams in a most agreeable way when opened.
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Alan--
Real flamingos? Or the decorative variety? It's not too late. (2nd link--most interesting ones down the page.)
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Dave W.
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Originally posted by Dave W.:
You say the Tories are trampling Chinese sensibilities; but maybe the Chinese don't actually care, and the Tories are really just pretending to stand tall and defend British tradition and memory in the face of Chinese pressure.
It's certainly possible that Cameron has played up a non-event to make him look like he's standing tall in the face of Chinese pressure. Juts ignore the man behind the curtain.
It's possible that the Chinese see a big opportunity to nab some lucrative contracts in the UK and make a load of dosh at the expense of the people of Britain. Of course, making sure there's just enough for UK businessmen who are big Tory supporters, many of who are in the government anyway, that they come out all right and Cameron can spin it as good for Britain - when what he means is good for him and his chums. The opportunity to buy Britain is too good to let the offence of a paper flower get in the way.
I asked a colleague at work about this today - she's a Chinese national and avid consumer of media from back home. She was quite aware of Xi's visit to the UK, but was completely nonplussed when I described the claim that the Chinese delegation said they were offended by the poppies - she hadn't read anything about them, or any allusion to the Opium Wars, and they hadn't been a topic of interest among her friends.
She did allow that if the Chinese representatives had raised objections and been refused, they wouldn't have drawn attention to the humiliation by publicizing it at home, but if wearing poppies really was so offensive you might expect ordinary citizens to have noticed it on their own.
It's not clear to me that they would even have recognized those tiny little flowers as poppies; apparently opium poppy flowers grow much larger, up to 12 cm across. Now if Cameron had worn one of these in his lapel - or, better yet, one of these - that might have really pissed them off.
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It is, as I thought I said, entirely possible that the whole "controversy" about the poppies and the visit by Xi is something talked up by the British media and not actually an issue with either the Chinese government or people.
It does have a feel of something that is the reverse of the old "loony left" stories the media fabricated years ago. But, instead of a story about a Labour council falling over themselves to ban "Baa baa black sheep" to avoid offending ethnic minorities (which was widely reported but a complete fabrication used to try to discredit the Labour Party) the media have invented an offence and presented Cameron as "the strong man refusing to bow to political correctness gone mad". I wouldn't put it past Cameron or his advisors to be a party to this deception presented to the British people.
Never trust politicians or the media to tell the truth. Unfortunately, we rely on the media to know what's happening in the world - even if we need bucket loads of salt handy.
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I'm pretty sure the factory made poppies, badges, wristbands etc sold in Australia are made in China. It's really hard to find out on the internet for sure, but there was a controversy in New Zealand recently when they contracted Australian company Cash's to import Chinese made poppies for the NZ market. There was a big backlash so the New Zealand poppies are made in New Zealand now. In Australia no one seems to care, possibly because they haven't questioned it and the RSL (Returned Service League) keep quiet about it. Certainly a google search finds remembrance products with poppy pictures made in China.
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Sorry to Cash's - I left it too long to edit. I found their website and they do make products outside Australia, but according to their website their products for the RSL are made in Australia
http://cashsawards.com.au/
However, I'm sure their Chinese factories would not be offended to make them if asked. It's more that as a fundraiser for Australian service members, the public expects the products to be made in Australia.
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Glad to see you're amused. Now, any chance of you cheering the rest of us up by slinking off back to whatever hole you've been hiding in?
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Sioni Sais
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Originally posted by Alan Cresswell:
Glad to see you're amused. Now, any chance of you cheering the rest of us up by slinking off back to whatever hole you've been hiding in?
"That hole" has closed for the night. deano has just got back from the pub.
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Alan Cresswell
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Early closing? Or did the landlord throw him out?
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Thread necromancy makes the hosts sad.
No, not sad. What's that other word?
Angry. That's it. Angry. Very, very angry.
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