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Thread: Paris Attacks (Hell Version)
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Alan Cresswell
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Because sometimes Purgatory isn't the appropriate place.
Fucking bastards, whoever they are.
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romanlion
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Funny to say but maybe Obama's weakness and equivocation has brought us closer to a tipping point...
Fucking bastards is right.
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Alan Cresswell
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Originally posted by romanlion:
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Originally posted by RuthW:
Just for starters, it's going to make things all the more difficult for immigrants and asylum seekers, not to mention all the Muslims already living in the West.
And it damned well should.
You're a fucking obnoxious slimy toad.
120, possibly more, innocent lives have been lost in Paris. Hundreds more are injured, traumatised and bereaved.
And, your response is that hundreds, thousands more innocent people should also suffer? Unbelievable. I can't believe you have the audacity to consider yourself to be a human being.
And, it's got fuck all to do with Obama. So, just shut the fuck up. This isn't an opportunity to try and score very cheap political points.
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orfeo
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Originally posted by romanlion:
Funny to say but maybe Obama's weakness and equivocation has brought us closer to a tipping point...
The main weakness is in your brain.
And apparently your grasp of geography. Paris, France, not Paris, Texas. The world does not revolve around your country you moron.
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Evensong
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Isn't it wonderful? Something to amuse and engross the masses in a world literally dying of boredom.
Gosh its better than Christmas.
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Proceed to see sea
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We are all bastards.
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RuthW
liberal "peace first" hankie squeezer
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Literally? ![[Roll Eyes]](rolleyes.gif)
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Evensong
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Human fascination with this kind of drama really annoys me. It's bizarre. It's like slowing down to see a car crash.
News agencies are constantly feeding this need with incredulous, awful stories and people lap it up.
#fuckedup
[ 14. November 2015, 03:22: Message edited by: Evensong ]
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RooK
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No. Sensationalization might be bad, but shining the light of attention on things that should not be ignored is not #fuckedup.
Get your head out of your ass, you horrible mental pygmy.
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romanlion
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Alan and Oreo...
45K posts between you, and you think I give a shit what you think?
![[Killing me]](graemlins/killingme.gif)
I would tell you both to go fuck yourselves, but I know neither of you have the cock for it.
Just keep typing, sperm burpers...
Someone else will sort what needs to be done. (Putin most likely)
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RooK
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I wish I had the time to describe what an utter shitstain of person you paint yourself as, romanlion.
I'll have to find a more efficient way.
[ 14. November 2015, 03:41: Message edited by: RooK ]
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Kelly Alves
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Fuck, I'm parking All Saints for the next few days, because that is where I can be of the most use right now. Except-Fuck you romanlion, you avatar of antimatter.
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romanlion
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Originally posted by RooK:
I wish I had the time to describe what an utter shitstain of person you paint yourself as, romanlion.
I'll have to find a more efficient way.
I wish I had a μs to tell you how much I fucking care.
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Alan Cresswell
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You don't need to tell us how little you care. You did that very eloquently when you said that the lives of thousands of innocent people should be even more difficult than they already are.
I don't care what you think of me. It saddens me deeply that someone could actively wish harm on innocent people.
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mr cheesy
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Dear me, romanlion, did you run out of stickle-bricks to play with in the nursery?
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Doc Tor
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Originally posted by romanlion:
Someone else will sort what needs to be done. (Putin most likely)
Funny how you get exercised about 120 dead French people, but you clock that up to your own domestic terrorism every single week, for every year, since dot.
Of course, no one will sort what needs to be done, because y'all don't give a shit. About that or dead French people either.
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Gamaliel
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Romanlion has just - depressingly - demonstrated the kind of reaction the terrorists want to achieve.
I hope you are proud of yourself, romanlion. Trouble is, given your pathological lack of self-awareness I suspect you probably are.
Meanwhile, this is not a time for scoring cheap political points as both romanlion and Kaplan Corday appear to be doing. Shame on them, shame on the pair of them.
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Praise the Lord for He is kind.
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Kelly Alves
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quote:
Originally posted by Alan Cresswell:
And, it's got fuck all to do with Obama. So, just shut the fuck up. This isn't an opportunity to try and score very cheap political points.
It seems like, based on this, and based on various news feeds, and threads on this board, there seems to be some sort of global cheap political points contest going on.
Facebook God posted that he wished humans would stop killing each other, and I referred to a really stupid atheist/ Godbotherer spat going on and said "small hope for that when we can't stop pissing on each other long enough to hold hands together for one night..."
Human savagery is built on two things--1. On our need to be better than, more civil than, more right than...pick your favorite hate target, and don't pretend you don't have one And! 2. On our justifications-- our glorious, Byzantine, intricately constructed justifications for maintaining the position we create for ourselves in #1.
We all do it, the best of us are those who realize we all do it and check themselves, frequently. There is nothing unique or game-changing about finger-pointing
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Gamaliel
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Sure, I agree with that, Kelly Alves and none of us are immune from finger pointing.
That doesn't make romanlion any less of an obnoxious twat, nor dies it lessen my disappointment at Kaplan for his standard knee-jerk response that lefties and liberals are far too inclined to point the finger at the US and Israel when plenty of posters here - of all persuasions - have a far more nuanced approach than that.
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Kelly Alves
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When did I defend either of them?
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Kelly Alves, somewhere around 2003.
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Fineline
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Originally posted by Evensong:
Isn't it wonderful? Something to amuse and engross the masses in a world literally dying of boredom.
Gosh its better than Christmas.
On social media it does sometimes seem there is a fine line between expressing genuine solidarity and support, and a melodramatic 'Look at me and be impressed by my intelligent/deep/articulate/knowledgeable/grief-stricken reaction'.
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Kelly Alves
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Yeah, it's hard to know how to express yourself without crossing that line. I restricted myself to a couple of reserved memes. The San Francisco City Hall pic I posted in Purg actually got me quite weepy, but t reality is am not French, and while expressing solidarity seems necessary, waxing all "I AM SO DEEVVESTATED!!!" seems quite presumptuous and self-aggrandizing. It is not my tragedy. It may be ours (the world's) but it is definitely not mine.
Really, the best I have heard all night was a one-liner posted by my favorite drag queen-- all she said was "Peace and love to Paris." That's it.
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Martin60
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I've never seen you so cross Alan. Fully understandable. You do it for us vicariously.
But aging neo-wuss that I am, romanlion has to be reproached for his Islamophobia on a Christian forum, in love.
His fear begets ours. His fear is part of the cycle of violence. We just reinforce it.
I'm afraid we need to embrace him. Not to change his mind, that cannot be done except by suffering, but because it's the right thing to do.
Because although Jesus was confrontational, rebuking, it was from beneath. Alone. Against power. If He'd have had the time to continue subverting violence, how would He have done that.
OOOOH! He did. He does.
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Sioni Sais
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Originally posted by romanlion:
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Originally posted by RooK:
I wish I had the time to describe what an utter shitstain of person you paint yourself as, romanlion.
I'll have to find a more efficient way.
I wish I had a μs to tell you how much I fucking care.
romanlion, you're taking advantage of this not being Real Life.
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orfeo
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quote:
Originally posted by RuthW:
Literally?
Evensong emerges just long enough to demonstrate how she's lost her grasp of the English language.
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ThunderBunk
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Originally posted by orfeo:
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Originally posted by RuthW:
Literally?
Evensong emerges just long enough to demonstrate how she's lost her grasp of the English language.
That's what training for ordination does for you. Particularly when the soil is prepared by certain kinds of post-modernism.
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Foolish, potentially deranged witterings
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orfeo
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Originally posted by romanlion:
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Originally posted by RooK:
I wish I had the time to describe what an utter shitstain of person you paint yourself as, romanlion.
I'll have to find a more efficient way.
I wish I had a μs to tell you how much I fucking care.
If you don't fucking care, then don't fucking post, because then those of us who do fucking care have to waste our fucking time dealing with your fucking attitude.
There's quite enough evil in the world today without you deciding to contribute to it by showing the exact same kind of intolerance of difference that leads to this shit in the first place. The difference between you and a machine-gun wielding suicide bomber is one of the method and degree, not of sentiment.
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Niteowl
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Aside from the sadness and anger I feel over the attacks on Paris, shitstains like Romanlion who use the attacks for their own personal political vomiting make me sick. I've seen it on both sides of the political divide tonight. They, along with ISIS, Al Queda, etc. can go to hell.
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Kelly Alves
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Originally posted by orfeo:
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Originally posted by romanlion:
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Originally posted by RooK:
I wish I had the time to describe what an utter shitstain of person you paint yourself as, romanlion.
I'll have to find a more efficient way.
I wish I had a μs to tell you how much I fucking care.
If you don't fucking care, then don't fucking post, because then those of us who do fucking care have to waste our fucking time dealing with your fucking attitude.
There's quite enough evil in the world today without you deciding to contribute to it by showing the exact same kind of intolerance of difference that leads to this shit in the first place. The difference between you and a machine-gun wielding suicide bomber is one of the method and degree, not of sentiment.
Amen all over this.
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Jesus loves me, this I know” of they don’t believe “Kelly loves me, this I know.”
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Martin60
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Come back romanlion. ALL is, are forgiven.
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Kelly Alves
Bunny with an axe
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Originally posted by ThunderBunk:
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Originally posted by orfeo:
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Originally posted by RuthW:
Literally?
Evensong emerges just long enough to demonstrate how she's lost her grasp of the English language.
That's what training for ordination does for you. Particularly when the soil is prepared by certain kinds of post-modernism.
I'm just going to take a moment to appreciate this little zap of comic relief God has chosen to visit on this thread...
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Jesus loves me, this I know” of they don’t believe “Kelly loves me, this I know.”
Kelly Alves, somewhere around 2003.
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Fineline
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Originally posted by orfeo:
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Originally posted by RuthW:
Literally?
Evensong emerges just long enough to demonstrate how she's lost her grasp of the English language.
'Metaphorically' is the new* metaphorical meaning for 'literally'.
*not so new, actually - first recorded usage of 'literally' in this sense was in 1769.
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Kelly Alves
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... I mean, Ruth ain't gonna find it funny at all, but I'm enjoying myself...
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Jesus loves me, this I know” of they don’t believe “Kelly loves me, this I know.”
Kelly Alves, somewhere around 2003.
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quetzalcoatl
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Orfeo makes a good point, that the logic of the right wing (well, some of them), in saying that we should now be hostile to Muslims and refugees, is the same logic as IS. They say that Western civilians are responsible for Western crimes in the Middle East, and the right wing say that ordinary Muslims are responsible for Islamist violence.
It's amazing how people have recourse to the same faulty logic, I suppose they have abandoned rationality, and support guilt by association.
Unfortunately, in both cases, reasoned argument will bounce off them. In fact, they seem to revel in irrationality.
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la vie en rouge
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I'm glad Alan started this. There's a place for allsaintsy little candles, but right now my main feeling about this whole thing is how bloody ANGRY I am at the inhuman savages who could do a thing like this to us. Angry that Parisians are going through this for the second time in less than a year. Indescribably angry that the cowardly bastards are dead and will never have to face justice for their actions. Angry that our society is a fucked-up mess and we can't stop radicalisation that makes young men capable of this kind of atrocity.
And Romanlion, you can fuck right off and shut your odious little maw and stop trying to profit from our fucking tragedy that you obviously couldn't care less about except as it allows you to be a fucking xenophobic racist bigot with exactly no human empathy whatsoever. It's people like who are going to helping that xenophobic fucking witch Marine fucking Lepen to an even bigger section of the vote come next election so the country can carry on being royally screwed.
I despair.
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quetzalcoatl
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Well, the terrorists will increase the right-wing vote, will increase hostility to Muslims and refugees, WTF? Is this what they want?
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Originally posted by quetzalcoatl:
Well, the terrorists will increase the right-wing vote, will increase hostility to Muslims and refugees, WTF? Is this what they want?
Almost certainly it's part of their aims, yes:
a) It's great fuel for their radicalization recruitment programmes.
b) Polarization in France opens up the prospect of all kinds of domestic problems and destabilization of the country, giving it less time and energy to help bomb Syria.
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It's the ordinariness of this that's shocking. Office workers putting the working week behind them and looking forward to going out for dinner on a Friday night, to mark the start of the weekend, or to hear their favourite band playing, or even just to do some late-night shopping. It could have been pretty much any city on any Friday night.
We were joking yesterday morning at the office (long before this happened) about it being Friday 13th and how you could tell by the weather. If only that had been the worst thing to happen that day. Friday 13th has taken on an extra resonance this year.
But don't let them win. Don't stop going out for dinner, don't stop making plans. I'm taking the view that if my number's up, it's up and there's nothing I can do about it. Until then, I'll live life my way as best as I can.
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Originally posted by quetzalcoatl:
Well, the terrorists will increase the right-wing vote, will increase hostility to Muslims and refugees, WTF? Is this what they want?
It's probably a part of what they want. It helps the recruitment of human bombs.
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Alan Cresswell
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Originally posted by quetzalcoatl:
Well, the terrorists will increase the right-wing vote, will increase hostility to Muslims and refugees, WTF? Is this what they want?
Yes, because they don't really care about refugees and Muslims except as potential recruits. They're not going to get any recruits by directly attacking refugee and Muslim communities ... but get irrational bastards like romanlion to attack them in some twisted sense of revenge. Well, then they might get some recruits.
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Uncle Pete
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I am minded of the time when my sister-in-law was posted to the High Commission in a then very volatile country. A week or so before she left, there was an attack on a train station. To all those who called for her not to place herself in danger, she replied that she could just as easily been bombed in London during the IRA campaign, but received nothing but messages of joy and jealousy that she was going to London. In any event, she returned 4 years later, having had a relatively peaceful stay.
Be careful, but carry on as usual, was her message. During that period, I visited several times, and was only once or twice a little upset.
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Penny S
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Originally posted by la vie en rouge:
Indescribably angry that the cowardly bastards are dead and will never have to face justice for their actions....
I despair.
One has to hope that even now they are facing the justice they were too cowardly to face here, and being told just exactly what the God they proclaimed as the greatest thinks of them, and why they are not going to have anything to do with 72 virgins, or dried grapes, or whatever it is is supposed to be their reward for the slaughter.
If they are so determined to die by punishing the unbeliever, why not take on fully armed Commandos?
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Martin60
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There's nothing cowardly about them. And what justice will they be facing as they stand before Jesus with their victims?
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I agree, it is not cowardly. I imagine many of these young people truly believe they are serving their God and I suspect they have to overcome fears to make what they see as the ultimate sacrifice for him. I find it incredibly sad. The cowards are those who send them out to do this, convincing them that this is how they can best serve God.
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lilBuddha
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Originally posted by orfeo:
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Originally posted by romanlion:
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Originally posted by RooK:
I wish I had the time to describe what an utter shitstain of person you paint yourself as, romanlion.
I'll have to find a more efficient way.
I wish I had a μs to tell you how much I fucking care.
If you don't fucking care, then don't fucking post, because then those of us who do fucking care have to waste our fucking time dealing with your fucking attitude.
He does care, it is why he posts. It sends fire to his loins, every counter post to his is like a short stroke along his tiny penis.
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Originally posted by lilBuddha:
He does care, it is why he posts. It sends fire to his loins, every counter post to his is like a short stroke along his tiny penis.
Microscopic, you mean.
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Originally posted by Siegfried:
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Originally posted by lilBuddha:
He does care, it is why he posts. It sends fire to his loins, every counter post to his is like a short stroke along his tiny penis.
Microscopic, you mean.
Where's Godwin when you need him?
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lilBuddha
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Not every reference to Hitler is Godwin relevant.
romanlion has a history of posting inflammatory remarks with no substantive support. What other reason than self-gratification do you see?
Hardly a surprise that you would come to his defence, though is it?
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Kelly Alves
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i think passer was referring to that old, old, old, old song about various genital deficiencies of various Nazi leaders. But I thought the line was that Hitler had no balls?
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I cannot expect people to believe “
Jesus loves me, this I know” of they don’t believe “Kelly loves me, this I know.”
Kelly Alves, somewhere around 2003.
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One ball.
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I put on my rockin' shoes in the morning
Hallellou, hallellou
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