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Spike
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quote: Originally posted by Zacchaeus: quote: Originally posted by Siegfried: I've never run across hot cross buns outside of the period around Easter in any of the places I've lived in the US. Shame, because they are quite tasty!
do you not have currant buns? very like hot cross buns but without the cross on the top?
Nothing like hot cross buns. As well as not having the cross, they're also lacking the spices that go into a hot cross but
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Pigwidgeon
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quote: Originally posted by Siegfried: I've never run across hot cross buns outside of the period around Easter in any of the places I've lived in the US. Shame, because they are quite tasty!
They were very popular when I lived in the northeast U.S., but here in the southwest they're much harder to find, and they're not very good when I do manage to find any.
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Siegfried
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quote: Originally posted by Zacchaeus: quote: Originally posted by Siegfried: I've never run across hot cross buns outside of the period around Easter in any of the places I've lived in the US. Shame, because they are quite tasty!
do you not have currant buns? very like hot cross buns but without the cross on the top?
Nope--not that I've ever run across. One thing to note is that currants aren't that common in the US due to concerns with plant diseases. Production has only really resumed in the last decade.
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Penny S
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Other dried grape products are available. (As the media announcers will say when a product name has been broadcast.)
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Pigwidgeon
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Cinnamon Raisin Buns are popular, but they are NOT Hot Cross Buns.
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mousethief
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quote: Originally posted by Siegfried: One thing to note is that currants aren't that common in the US due to concerns with plant diseases. Production has only really resumed in the last decade.
That and they're crap. At least the ones I've had here.
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Golden Key
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quote: Originally posted by Sioni Sais: quote: Originally posted by Golden Key: Tell you what: we'll take back "Happy Holidays" to the US, if UK folks will please take back the citron bits from the hot cross buns. You can put them in your own, and enjoy them. I can't stand citron. Win-win.
Just so long as Hershey's stop calling their brown confectionary "chocolate"
Psssst...try Ghirardelli. The San Francisco treat.*
*Actually, that's from the old ads for Rice-a-Roni, but it fits.
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Golden Key
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I haven't had HC buns in decades. I liked them ok when I dug the citron out.
I wouldn't think they'd be hard to make. The ones we had in the grade school cafeteria were basically slightly-sweet dinner rolls with spices and citron, and a cross in white frosting.
The cinnamon roll recipe up above would be fairly close. But I wonder, if you're desperate, if it would work well enough to get frozen ready-to-bake dinner rolls, and knead spices and sugar and citron into them? Or raisins.
YMMV.
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Penny S
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Real HCBs have the crosses by having a flour and water batter piped as the cross, or, as I vaguely remember from childhood, a slashed cross. (Now having doubts about that.) Not icing. They pre-date icing sugar or the means to make one's own powdered sugar.
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Ariston
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Okay, kiddos. This is Hell. We keep our oven temperature set at gas mark eleventybillion, which, according to my copy of Joy of Cooking, will vaporize your damn buns in about half a nanosecond.
You wanna talk crosscurrent buns? Go to Heaven. There's a recipe thread there. Hell, you might even be more likely to find someone who cares thataway, since the cooks don't come down here that much, given that our recipes tend to involve presoaking the neighbor's annoying cat in beer.
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Alan Cresswell
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But, not good beer. Cats piss like Bud or Coors.
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Firenze
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quote: Originally posted by Alan Cresswell: But, not good beer. Cats piss like Bud or Coors.
We're aiming for a sort of feline Hákarl?
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Pigwidgeon
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quote: Originally posted by Ariston: ...our recipes tend to involve presoaking the neighbor's annoying cat in beer.
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I miss Campbellite.
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Boogie
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I got a card today which has on the front 'Warmest Winter Wishes'.
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Ariel
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Did it have an appropriate picture e.g. a roaring log fire or similar?
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Doc Tor
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Perhaps they were just being topical, considering we're having one of the warmest winters on record.
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mousethief
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quote: Originally posted by Ariel: quote: Originally posted by Siegfried: You done fucked up your OP and now are pissy about being called on it. Take your lumps.
Nope, just bored. Time moves on.
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Palimpsest
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Oh She probably read her OP and with luck realizes how embarrassing it is and wants it all to be in the past.
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Ariel
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I'm fine with my OP, thanks. I'm just not interested in dredging up a fight from several days ago at this stage. I haven't got the energy at present and the thread has moved on anyway.
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Siegfried
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You never seemed too interested in engaging in the first place.
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orfeo
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Understandable. Engagement around here appears to consist of exchanging fruit bun recipes.
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Sioni Sais
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quote: Originally posted by orfeo: Understandable. Engagement around here appears to consist of exchanging fruit bun recipes.
I have an excellent pork pie recipe. At least it would piss off Ariston!
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Ariston
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Given that you have no such thing—excellence being inimical to the nature of pork pies—I don't see how I could be even slightly miffed.
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lilBuddha
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quote: Originally posted by Ariston: Given that you have no such thing—excellence being inimical to the nature of pork pies
I beg to differ.
Probably tastes better than the other kind as well.
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Ariel
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quote: Originally posted by Ariston: Given that you have no such thing—excellence being inimical to the nature of pork pies—I don't see how I could be even slightly miffed.
You've never had a proper one. Forget the hard grey pastry that shatters to reveal a congealed lump of something grey and unidentifiable at the base of the pastry case with the remaining two-thirds of the space filled by air. No commercially made factory output pork pie is ever going to be great. You need to try a genuine handmade pork pie with decent cuts of real pork in it, seasoned with herbs, that goes all the way up to the top of a golden-brown pastry case. There may even be meat jelly in it but there is no air. This is a pork pie that can be sliced without fear, and looked forward to, rich, succulent, edible and moreish either hot or cold.
And it does not have a hardboiled egg in the centre either. [ 21. December 2015, 17:44: Message edited by: Ariel ]
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Ariston
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lB—I actually have a grey straw one that I picked up from one of the greatest shops I've ever been to. Looked reeeal nice before I started pulling my hair back/lopped it all off (sniff).
A—wouldn't you know it, but I have had something like that. Hated it. Why, you're not even the first person on these very boards who couldn't believe that I might have given it an honest-to-God chance, or just knew that I must not have had The Real Thing™. Nope. Pork pies are a waste of perfectly good rotten Spam.
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Rev per Minute
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quote: Originally posted by Signaller: quote: Originally posted by Zacchaeus: Most people in my corner of middle England have never heard of Divali, as real holiday that real people celebrate. If they have come aross it then it is as something exotic that happens elsewehere.
In this corner of middle England in north west London, Diwali is enthusiastically celebrated, the external manifestation being fireworks which in most years get mixed up with those for Guy Fawkes.
But it never seems to occur anywhere near Christmas, so I can't see any need for a catch-all greeting.
While I am far from clear where 'Middle England' exists geographically, in the actual middle of England (places like Leicester) Diwali is celebrated as described by Signaller. It tends to fall in October or November so is not confused with 'winter holidays', but the lights put up for Diwali are kept up for Christmas in parts of the city. So it might be exotic but it's celebrated quite close to home.
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Golden Key
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And to you!
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The Phantom Flan Flinger
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quote: Originally posted by Rev per Minute: While I am far from clear where 'Middle England' exists geographically, in the actual middle of England (places like Leicester) Diwali is celebrated as described by Signaller. It tends to fall in October or November so is not confused with 'winter holidays', but the lights put up for Diwali are kept up for Christmas in parts of the city. So it might be exotic but it's celebrated quite close to home.
Correct. Any real Leicester person knows that they are Diwali lights until December, when they magically become Christmas lights!
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Firenze
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May the year turn well for us.
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Sioni Sais
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quote: Originally posted by Ariston: lB—I actually have a grey straw one that I picked up from one of the greatest shops I've ever been to. Looked reeeal nice before I started pulling my hair back/lopped it all off (sniff).
A—wouldn't you know it, but I have had something like that. Hated it. Why, you're not even the first person on these very boards who couldn't believe that I might have given it an honest-to-God chance, or just knew that I must not have had The Real Thing™. Nope. Pork pies are a waste of perfectly good rotten Spam.
We picked up our Christmas pork pies yesterday from an excellent independent butcher about half a mile from home. If I can get a couple of hours oven-time* I shall be making some rillons, which are slow-roast chunks of trimmed pork belly.
*in the run up to Christmas oven contention is serious.
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Karl: Liberal Backslider
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quote: Originally posted by Ariel: quote: Originally posted by Ariston: Given that you have no such thing—excellence being inimical to the nature of pork pies—I don't see how I could be even slightly miffed.
You've never had a proper one. Forget the hard grey pastry that shatters to reveal a congealed lump of something grey and unidentifiable at the base of the pastry case with the remaining two-thirds of the space filled by air. No commercially made factory output pork pie is ever going to be great. You need to try a genuine handmade pork pie with decent cuts of real pork in it, seasoned with herbs, that goes all the way up to the top of a golden-brown pastry case. There may even be meat jelly in it but there is no air. This is a pork pie that can be sliced without fear, and looked forward to, rich, succulent, edible and moreish either hot or cold.
And it does not have a hardboiled egg in the centre either.
And like all the "proper" versions of these things, whether it be free range meat, pork pies or real cheese, completely unaffordable for anyone on a normal income.
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Ariel
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quote: Originally posted by Karl: Liberal Backslider: And like all the "proper" versions of these things, whether it be free range meat, pork pies or real cheese, completely unaffordable for anyone on a normal income.
What do you define as a "normal income"?
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Karl: Liberal Backslider
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quote: Originally posted by Ariel: quote: Originally posted by Karl: Liberal Backslider: And like all the "proper" versions of these things, whether it be free range meat, pork pies or real cheese, completely unaffordable for anyone on a normal income.
What do you define as a "normal income"?
Not the sort of money required for these trendy artisan foods. You know the sort of thing, hand folded cheddar at £20/kilo, packs of outdoor reared wild boar sausages at a quid a sausage. The sort of thing my principles tell me I should want to buy but which my bank account tells me to forget about.
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Golden Key
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What Karl said, re buying things on a normal income, let alone a low one.
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Sioni Sais
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quote: Originally posted by Karl: Liberal Backslider: quote: Originally posted by Ariel: quote: Originally posted by Karl: Liberal Backslider: And like all the "proper" versions of these things, whether it be free range meat, pork pies or real cheese, completely unaffordable for anyone on a normal income.
What do you define as a "normal income"?
Not the sort of money required for these trendy artisan foods. You know the sort of thing, hand folded cheddar at £20/kilo, packs of outdoor reared wild boar sausages at a quid a sausage. The sort of thing my principles tell me I should want to buy but which my bank account tells me to forget about.
It isn't that long ago that all food was produced in this "trendy artisan" manner. Food used to take up a far greater proportion of the household income but thanks to agri-business it is now much cheaper. All produce was "local produce" and a heck of a lot was seasonal. Clothing is cheaper now, especially if you buy goods produced in the subcontinent. The only thing that appears substantially more expensive nowadays is the #1 priority, housing.
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Karl: Liberal Backslider
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quote: Originally posted by Sioni Sais: quote: Originally posted by Karl: Liberal Backslider: quote: Originally posted by Ariel: quote: Originally posted by Karl: Liberal Backslider: And like all the "proper" versions of these things, whether it be free range meat, pork pies or real cheese, completely unaffordable for anyone on a normal income.
What do you define as a "normal income"?
Not the sort of money required for these trendy artisan foods. You know the sort of thing, hand folded cheddar at £20/kilo, packs of outdoor reared wild boar sausages at a quid a sausage. The sort of thing my principles tell me I should want to buy but which my bank account tells me to forget about.
It isn't that long ago that all food was produced in this "trendy artisan" manner. Food used to take up a far greater proportion of the household income but thanks to agri-business it is now much cheaper. All produce was "local produce" and a heck of a lot was seasonal. Clothing is cheaper now, especially if you buy goods produced in the subcontinent. The only thing that appears substantially more expensive nowadays is the #1 priority, housing.
I know. I also do not wish to return to the days when food was very expensive, because it puts starvation just around the corner. Or, to make it affordable, adulteration.
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quote: Originally posted by Sioni Sais: It isn't that long ago that all food was produced in this "trendy artisan" manner. Food used to take up a far greater proportion of the household income but thanks to agri-business it is now much cheaper. All produce was "local produce" and a heck of a lot was seasonal. Clothing is cheaper now, especially if you buy goods produced in the subcontinent. The only thing that appears substantially more expensive nowadays is the #1 priority, housing.
Food also used to be dangerous. That's a major thing people forget when extolling the dreamy memories of local abattoirs: they closed because they were dangerous. Big agribusiness frequently looks horrible, but it is a heck of lot safer than food used to be.
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I remember the abattoir in Bury, Lancashire. Animals used to escape quite regularly and rampage through the middle of town, often on market day. Nobody there could pretend they didn't know where their meat came from.
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lilBuddha
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quote: Originally posted by mr cheesy: quote: Originally posted by Sioni Sais: It isn't that long ago that all food was produced in this "trendy artisan" manner. Food used to take up a far greater proportion of the household income but thanks to agri-business it is now much cheaper. All produce was "local produce" and a heck of a lot was seasonal. Clothing is cheaper now, especially if you buy goods produced in the subcontinent. The only thing that appears substantially more expensive nowadays is the #1 priority, housing.
Food also used to be dangerous. That's a major thing people forget when extolling the dreamy memories of local abattoirs: they closed because they were dangerous. Big agribusiness frequently looks horrible, but it is a heck of lot safer than food used to be.
Safety is forced on agribusiness and is a product of the times, not a natural outcome of scale. Though, it is a mixed thing. Easier to enforce standards, easier to spread disease. Animals escaping was also more a product of the times.
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Pigwidgeon
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Back to our "Happy Holidays" topic...
Circle K, a chain of convenience stores, has a full-page ad in today's newspaper with a huge headline: "HAPPY ALCOHOLIDAYS!" It then shows pictures and prices of their various specials on crappy beer.
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mousethief
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quote: Originally posted by mr cheesy: quote: Originally posted by Sioni Sais: It isn't that long ago that all food was produced in this "trendy artisan" manner. Food used to take up a far greater proportion of the household income but thanks to agri-business it is now much cheaper. All produce was "local produce" and a heck of a lot was seasonal. Clothing is cheaper now, especially if you buy goods produced in the subcontinent. The only thing that appears substantially more expensive nowadays is the #1 priority, housing.
Food also used to be dangerous. That's a major thing people forget when extolling the dreamy memories of local abattoirs: they closed because they were dangerous. Big agribusiness frequently looks horrible, but it is a heck of lot safer than food used to be.
Yes. Then if you got E. coli in your abbatoir, it could kill the locals. Now it can kill people in 27 states.
Also, what lilBuddha said. Big Agribiz is working very hard to roll back all the food safety laws we have in place, so they can make a killing. [ 23. December 2015, 15:23: Message edited by: mousethief ]
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mr cheesy
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quote: Originally posted by mousethief: Yes. Then if you got E. coli in your abbatoir, it could kill the locals. Now it can kill people in 27 states.
Also, what lilBuddha said. Big Agribiz is working very hard to roll back all the food safety laws we have in place, so they can make a killing.
Escherichia coli is a species of bacteria where most of the strains are entirely harmless. So the presence of the species is not going to be a problem (and is probably inevitable), whereas the presence of a dangerous strain like 0157 is going to kill people.
I think there are a lot of risks with massive agribusiness practices, I absolutely agree. But it is still far safer than it used to be.
That said, the pressure to relax food security standards in the USA sounds very bad.
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mr cheesy
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It took a while to find it again, but this is a pretty shocking undercover report about food standards, and commercial pressures, inside abattoirs in the USA. Pretty shocking stuff.
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lilBuddha
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Dude, Upton Sinclair.
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mousethief
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quote: Originally posted by mr cheesy: Escherichia coli is a species of bacteria where most of the strains are entirely harmless. So the presence of the species is not going to be a problem (and is probably inevitable), whereas the presence of a dangerous strain like 0157 is going to kill people.
No fuck? Really? Hell, how foolish of me to not specify the exact strain of E. coli I was referring to as deadly. How fucked up of you to be so pedantic when it was crystal clear what I meant. Fuckwit. [ 23. December 2015, 18:52: Message edited by: mousethief ]
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mousethief
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Actually that's unfair to fuckwits. You weren't being stupid, you were being a jerk.
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quote: Originally posted by lilBuddha: Dude, Upton Sinclair.
Yeah, I was thinking of his "The Jungle", too. Read it for school. NOT for the squeamish.
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Ariston
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What, socialism makes you sick?
Work and pray, live on hay There'll be pie in the sky when you die (that's a lie!)
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