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Originally posted by Anselmina:
I think it's how he genuinelly, truthfully, communicates his responses.

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Two observations that go against this: firstly the increasingly incomprehensible responses when someone asks for clarification combined with the hints of enjoyment (suggesting he can turn the gain up on the incomprehensibility) and secondly the ability to communicate clearly once in a while.

And one prediction: that M60 communicates perfectly ordinarily when shopping for groceries.

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Originally posted by quetzalcoatl:
I like Martin. He seems a kind person. Oh well.

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Originally posted by Martin60:
Palimpsest, mdijon, points taken. Honest. I'm a prat. Sorry. Thank you all.

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And there's the obsequious ever-so-'umble stuff. Just communicate honestly and stop trolling - that's all the apology I would need.

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Originally posted by no prophet's flag is set so...:
I like the word salad dressing Martin provides. Haiku to all of the unwashed leaves.

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Originally posted by mousethief:
And viciously trashing people for not agreeing with you is not a kind moment. Just sayin'.

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Originally posted by Doublethink.:
Yes, but my beard is humble and I weep when I am struck by the tragedy of the SHATTERED perfume bottle - have you kept your brother ? Have you ascended unworthy ? Are you alright mate, because its always about Christ's gardening desires.

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The possession of a beard was a sign of maturity among all the Sem. peoples of the ancient Near E. In most of the languages the word for “elder” or “grownup” is a cognate of the verbal and nominal forms meaning “beard”; e.g. the common Heb. phrase, זִקְנֵ֖י בְּנֵ֥י יִשְׂרָאֵֽל, “the elders of the children of Israel” (Exod 4:29, et al.). [...] The shaving of the beard was an act of striking and severe contrition and symbolized a radical alteration in the state of things (Isa 7:20, et al.), wherein the shaving of the prophet’s beard portends God’s judgment.

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Perhaps the writer had shaved his beard due to contrition or grief, and it's just now growing back, so it is "humble"?

The broken perfume bottle is clearly a reference to John 12, where Mary washed Jesus' feet with perfume; and Judas complained about wasting something so expensive, and said it should've be sold, and the money given to the poor. Perhaps he broke the bottle, as a sign of his disgust? And later, in this world or the next, he regretted his action?

John said Judas didn't care about the poor, but rather embezzled from the disciples' purse. If the writer is Judas, perhaps he grew to realize that his actions and attitudes were wrong and unworthy?

And yet, the excerpt ends with perhaps a hint of the author reaching out for grace from Jesus, the gardener, who is also the vine for each and every one of our branches?



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Originally posted by mdijon:
So here I have a choice. I could either say;

"The murine and lupine are Thrasymachus and Socrates. An accusation which isn't. Shouldn't be. Was misheard. It's Homeric instead. Between the murine and Manchester outer ring road."

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"Kelly I think you and Mousethief are at cross purposes. Mousethief isn't talking about anything you've said about him but rather history between himself and M60"

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Good grief, I shudder to think what the answer to " How stupid do you think I am?" would be.

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So we're here demonstrating that even without the Manchester Outer Ring Road obfuscation communication can be tricky.

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Originally posted by Firenze:
Catching, innit? Instead of Talk Like a Pirate Day we can have Talk Like a Marti(a)n.

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I like the word salad dressing Martin provides. Haiku to all of the unwashed leaves.

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So do I. Like his post to Kelly above with his reference to Dante's eighth circle of hell for the malicious use of reason. It's like when I watch Jeopardy, half the time I don't get the answer, but I'm very pleased when I do.

It's not like Martin is writing gibberish, there is meaning there, you just have to work for it a little bit and if you don't find that fun then scroll on.

I also agree with Anselmina that he's a very nice person.

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The man seems cheerful to a fault. A reincarnation of Quixote, but can't find the windmill.

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Originally posted by mdijon:
Most of us have nice and not-so-nice sides. What we should say is that this particular response is not-so-nice. There's no need to try and infer what that says about Martin60 the person in totality. I've done some shitty things in my time, I don't expect to have to call myself a shit because of that.

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Originally posted by Anselmina:
Well, tbh, I don't know if he's nice or not! Just differently wired.

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Originally posted by mr cheesy:
Vaguely waving your anger to the general populous without specifically addressing anyone in particular and using subtleties only you can really understand is a recipe for annoyance. Even if what you are saying is supposed to be a backhanded compliment.

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I like the word salad dressing Martin provides. Haiku to all of the unwashed leaves.

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So do I. Like his post to Kelly above with his reference to Dante's eighth circle of hell for the malicious use of reason. It's like when I watch Jeopardy, half the time I don't get the answer, but I'm very pleased when I do.

It's not like Martin is writing gibberish, there is meaning there, you just have to work for it a little bit and if you don't find that fun then scroll on.

I also agree with Anselmina that he's a very nice person.

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Well, tbh, I don't know if he's nice or not! Just differently wired. And I could be a mug for thinking so. And I'm certainly not up to the task to always catching on what he's talking about.

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I like the word salad dressing Martin provides. Haiku to all of the unwashed leaves.

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So do I. Like his post to Kelly above with his reference to Dante's eighth circle of hell for the malicious use of reason. It's like when I watch Jeopardy, half the time I don't get the answer, but I'm very pleased when I do.

It's not like Martin is writing gibberish, there is meaning there, you just have to work for it a little bit and if you don't find that fun then scroll on.

I also agree with Anselmina that he's a very nice person.

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Well, tbh, I don't know if he's nice or not! Just differently wired. And I could be a mug for thinking so. And I'm certainly not up to the task to always catching on what he's talking about.

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Well, both of you, he didn't aim that comment at you, so you can afford to admire it or ignore it. If you were the one trying to figure out whether you had just been called a liar or a "malicious reasoner," in abscence of any explanation of what specifically may have earned either term, you might not find it so charming.

And it's the explanation part that is the issue. If Martin feels the comment that provoked the Dante reference was unfair, why doesn't he add something to that filagree of descriptors that tells me why?

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I went with Cervantes because Martin is not Dantesque. Had thought of Vonnegut mating with Omar Khayyam and Kafka. But it seemed too cynical and leaning sinister. Though the 3 way could be trinitarian. The dexter was the clockwise turning windymill.

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I don't know why we are comparing Martin to anyone. The only reason Dante came up is he alluded to it.

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I went with Cervantes because Martin is not Dantesque. Had thought of Vonnegut mating with Omar Khayyam and Kafka. But it seemed too cynical and leaning sinister. Though the 3 way could be trinitarian. The dexter was the clockwise turning windymill.

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Your literary allusion to Don Quixote makes no sense. To the extent that I wonder if you've actually read it.

I know nothing of Dante, a little of Kafka and a bit more of Machiavelli. Martin resembles neither of the latter two and I doubt he has much to do with the former.

Hence, I think you might want to stop trying to look clever and try using insults based on things you know about. Masturbation is a popular one.

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Originally posted by Martin60:
Ernie Borgnine WAS Marty, 'strewth! I lack his charm. I like him best as Vaslov in Ice Station Zebra, among many memorable roles.

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