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Wet Kipper
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have no idea, so am keen to hear the answer

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Patron saints of the countries of the British Isles?

Lord (Patrick) Litchfield
David Collins in The Guest

No idea about the other two yet, but I'm hoping for a George and an Andrew.

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No, not patron saints, but Patrick Lichfield is right.
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quote:
Originally posted by Albertus:
Bertha's husband
Polly's creator
Elizabeth's snappy cousin
and Mrs (and/or Mr) Petersen's unexpected guest?

Rochester, Wells, Lichfield and I don't know what the other one is, but they're all English cathedrals, right?
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(If that is right, would someone else like to have a go at setting one as I'm not going to have time in the next 48 hours - sorry!)
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Yes, that is right. Mr Rochester's wife (Jane Eyre) was called Bertha, HG Wells wrote The History of Mr Polly, Lord Lichfield was a photographer and cousin of the Queen; and the last one was Abraham Lincoln, who was taken to die in the Petersen House in Washington DC after being shot.

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Rats again - and I waited two years to post on this thread. [Biased]

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As Ariel has asked if someone else would set the next one, and I was soooo close last time, perhaps you'll permit me to have a go.

What connects:

Carlos 'The Jackal'
Mrs Freddy Eynsford Hill
Colonel Saito
Nick Mason


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Very puzzling. At first, I thought that the connection was Frederick, as "The day of the Jackal" is by Frederick Forsythe.

In the play "Pygmalion" Mrs Freddy EH is the erstwhile Eliza Dolittle. She marries Freddy, strictly speaking, after the play has ended.

The connections are obviously even more convoluted.

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Is it something to do with made up names for real people ?
The real Saito was not a Colonel, and Carlos was called the Jackal after alledgedly having the book in his posession

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Is the link architecture?

Carlos started to study architecture.
FEH was an archiecture student
Colonel Saito started to study architecture
Nick Mason began a course in architecture at PCL.

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quote:
Originally posted by Sipech:
Not at all close, but I'm intrigued by how you arrived at that answer.

Before a fall ...

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quote:
Originally posted by L'organist:
Is the link architecture?

Carlos started to study architecture.
FEH was an archiecture student
Colonel Saito started to study architecture
Nick Mason began a course in architecture at PCL.

You are soooo close, but it is Mrs FEH, and I don't think she studied architecture.

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Is the link that they were all educated in Westminster or at places that are now part of the University of Westminster?

Carlos "The Jackal" studied at the Polytechnic of Central London, now the University of Westminster
Eliza Doolittle was educated by Henry Higgins at Wimpole Street, which is in Westminster, she also attended to night classes in the sequel/epilogue;
Colonel Saito was supposed to have studied at the London Polytechnic (however impossible for a Japanese soldier) now part of the University of Westminster;
Nick Mason attended Regent Street College which is also now part of the University of Westminster,

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Yes. After her marriage to Freddie (so as Mrs Eynsford Hill, rather than Miss Doolittle), Eliza opened a flower shop and (according to GBS's sequel) took lessons, in matters such as bookkeeping, at the LSE and also as 'polytechnic lectures'. These would have been at 'The Polytechnic' as the Polytechnic Christian Young Men's Institure (formerly the Royal Polytechnic Institute) was known (there being only one polytechnic around, it didn't really need to be called anything other than 'The Polytechnic').

The Polytechnic became the London Polytechnic, where Colonel Saito said he studied (art and engineering, IIRC). Following further restructuring it became the Regent Street Polytechnic, by which name Nick Mason and other members of Pink Floyd would have know it as students. In 1971 it became the Polytechnic of Central London (PCL), and among its esteemed students were Carlos "The Jackal" and yours truly. It is now the University of Westminster.

So this very mixed group all studied at the same institution (albeit two of them fictionally).

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An excellent question, Chapelhead!

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Curiosity killed ...

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OK, what connects:

  • Mervin Earl of Castlehaven,
  • The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy
  • Robert Boyle
  • Sir James Thornhill (artist who painted the Painted Hall at Greenwich)
edited for the apostrophe

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Hmmm...

The Hitchhiker's Guide was a a trilogy in five parts, and after his beheading the Earl of Castlehaven was a lawyer in two parts - no, I don't think that's getting me anywhere.

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I can only say I'm familiar with H2G2, so I'll guess the answer is: Chesterfield sofa.

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The town of Stalbridge in Dorset?

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Boogie got it.

The Wikipedia link is a bit vague on Mervin, Earl of Castlehaven, but according to my facsimile copy of Coker's History of Dorset, (originally written in the 1620s and published in 1732), the
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Stower ... on the West Banke of which is Stalebridge or Staplebridge, a little Markett Towne, which, as appeares in Domsday Booke, belonged to the Abbot of Sherborne; but since, by Dissolution of it, it came to John Lorde Audley, whose Successour, Mervine Earle of Castlehaven, hath lately built a goodlie faire House there.
Douglas Adams' mother lived in Stalbridge and was most irritated to have her view of the Blackmore Vale obscured by a block of flats being built, the planning permission of which was to be found in the basement of the council offices in Sturminster Newton. I'm afraid I heard her rant after hearing the Radio 4 production and reading the book of HHGTG. Apparently Douglas Adams was living there when he wrote most of HHGTG. Eventually she built herself another smaller house in the garden further up the hill and sold the original house.

Robert Boyle lived in the house built by Castlehaven and did much of his experimenting there. All that's left of that house are the walls around the grounds and some lumps and bumps in the field.

Thornhill House, which is amazing, was built by Sir James Thornhill.

I did wonder about giving you Dike and Sons bakery, or what I suspect they've renamed themselves, Thomas J Fudge's bakery.

(I did check and realised you could get to this from googling the final two names and then working backwards, so I wasn't being too mean.)

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Here is mine. What connects these four words?

--> Blood

--> Sword

--> Curtains

--> Sweep

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They can all be drawn?

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Yes - too easy!!

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What comes next:

1. A
2. D
3. M
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S?
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Nope

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no prophet's flag is set so...

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I think it's 4I and the next one would be 5N.

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Nope, but you are right to include the numbers.

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no prophet's flag is set so...

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It's then not probably a sequence of calculated numbers and letters in relation I think. Maybe it's UK postal code related?

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So, not a Latin inscription then. Is this directly related to education by any chance?

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Nothing to do with education. It's the sort of thing that would turn up on Only Connect.

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Ariel
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How about 4Y - I'm guessing these are all Scrabble tiles?
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Yes, that would do it. And yes, Scrabble tiles.

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Ariel
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OK, see if you can spot the connection here:

Birmingham
New York
Frankfurt
Istanbul

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Are they all 'second' cities?

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Ariel
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They might be, but that wasn't what I had in mind.

Let me know if a clue is needed, though there is one in there already.

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OK. The clue is "landmarks".
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Still not getting it, unless the connection is iron. Frankfurt has an iron bridge, New York has the flatiron building, Birmingham has the Iron Man statue and Istanbul ... well, buried at the bottom of the Column of Constantine it has the very axe that Noah used to build the Ark, and that's probably made of iron.

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They all have Museums of Modern Art?

(Not sure that's exclusive enough though)

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Similarly, they all have, or are creating "Central Parks".

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Do they all have large statues of bulls?

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quote:
Originally posted by Sipech:
Do they all have large statues of bulls?

I think you may be right - a google/wiki search shows

Birmingham has the Bullring shopping centre,
quote:
At the main entrance to the west building stands The Guardian, a 2.2-metre (7 ft 3 in) tall bronze sculpture of a running, turning bul
New York has a statue of a Bull on Wall Street
Frankfurt has a Bull and a Bear statue outside the Börse (stock exchange)
Istanbul stock exchange:
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There is a magnificent, four-meter high marble statue of the "Bull and Bear", in front of the ISE building’s protocol entrance.


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quote:
Originally posted by Sipech:
Do they all have large statues of bulls?

Yes they do! Including Istanbull [Biased]

Take it away, Sipech. [Big Grin]

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What links the following:

Wordsworth
Robot
Leisure Centre
Scrapheap

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Red Dwarf actors in other TV programmes?

Danny John Jules (Cat) was Milton Wordsworth in the Story makers (had to google that one)
Craig charles (dave lister) did Robot Wars
Chris Barrie (Rimmer) did the Brittas Empire in a leisure Centre
Robert Llewellyn (Kryten) did ScrapHeap Challenge

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I need to make these harder.

Your turn, soggy fish!

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May I alter the format slightly, and give you all a question I submitted for the Round Britain Quiz which they said they liked but I never heard it used ?
It's very similar to the Only Connect "connection" questions so far - just an extra step to decipher the clues, and then the reason behind the connection (with an extra clue in the question)

Why is finding a connection to the following things a Political Question?:
Tuneful Tony
A Badger's Brook
A Malawi Missionary
An Enterprising Engineer.

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If this is an RBQ question, am I allowed to witter on endlessly, without ever getting anywhere near the answer, a la Polly Devlin? [Biased]
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OK, are the decoded clue answers:

Tuneful Tony - Blackburn,
Badger's Brook - Broxburn
Malawi Missionary - Livingston(e)
Enterprising Engineer - Alexander Calder?

If so Blackburn, Broxburn, Livingston and Calder are all regions of West Lothian, which makes the political question the West Lothian question?

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