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I think many people might be thinking of Maggie Thatcher.
Maggies have a lot of personality (and you can't ignore a Maggie) but it isn't always likeable.
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Talking of ho-hum names, can you imagine any whirligig of fashion that will ever bring back Mildred? Muriel? Agatha? Bertha? Deirdre? Edith? Ivy? Nesta? Shirley? Tracy? Ursula?
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Originally posted by Firenze:
Talking of ho-hum names, can you imagine any whirligig of fashion that will ever bring back Mildred? Muriel? Agatha? Bertha? Deirdre? Edith? Ivy? Nesta? Shirley? Tracy? Ursula?
It's already happening. I know a couple of young Ediths (one of whom is a relative), and also a couple of Ivys who are 2 and under. The fashion for 'old' names has been going for a while for boys (hence lots of Alfies, Charlies, etc) but it seems to be catching on for girls too.
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Originally posted by Firenze:
Talking of ho-hum names, can you imagine any whirligig of fashion that will ever bring back Mildred? Muriel? Agatha? Bertha? Deirdre? Edith? Ivy? Nesta? Shirley? Tracy? Ursula?
I have a running joke in the story about some jerk who keeps calling Aggie Agatha, despite several people correcting him.
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Names go in and out of fashion in a chartable way -- there are websites devoted to tracking their ups and downs. George was becoming less common, until the Duchess of Cambridge put her hand in. Every woman you meet who is named Madison is about 30 years old today, because she was named after Madison the mermaid in the movie Splash.
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Originally posted by Brenda Clough:
Every woman you meet who is named Madison . . . .
I've never met one, and I **do** get out. I had no idea Madison was a woman's name until you mentioned it.
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The daughter of one of my coworkers is named Madison. She's in grade school. Once a name becomes a name it stays one, even if it's not as popular any more.
When I was named Nicole, there were no other Nicoles around. Then one of the president's daughters named her daughter Nicole and there was an explosion of the name. For awhile it was one of the most popular girls names going. But all much younger than me. I've only met one Nicole in my age range.
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Likewise it's no secret that my real name is Alex. When I was in school, there were only two other Alexes in the entire school. Nowadays there's one on every corner, it seems.
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RE: Names. My niece and her husband are expecting. They are running a contest. Whoever submits the craziest name for their baby, gets to decide from three selections for what the baby will wear home from the hospital. Of course, the baby's real name has already been selected, and it's quite nice. I was looking over the submissions and noticed an omission. Had no one thought of Elvis??
RE: Appearance. Two days before my appointment to have my photo ID made in graduate school, I fell down a flight of stairs. I was fine, but I had a real shiner of a black eye. So for a year, my school ID showed a slightly dazed woman with hippy-curly hair and a black eye. Caused a few questions at the library check-out and various other places.
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You'd think, if fame was a guarantee, the place would be coming down in Elvises.
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At the moment late Victorian and 1920s names are undergoing a revival. Boys are being called Archie, Alfie and Stanley, but I don't think Frank and Trevor have been revived as names yet. Girls are Olive, Florence, Matilda, and Amelia, but no sign yet of Hilda, Cora, Norma or Mildred.
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Brenda Clough
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There is a slow cycle to this kind of thing. Putting aside the people who name the kids after a parent or grandparent, parents tend to pick names that sound new to them. Thus children do not get the mom or dad's name, nor the grandparents' -- those sound 'old'. But the great-grand or further on back, those sound more fresh.
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Penny S
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My parents named me thinking it was an unusual name, and I ended in a small private school class of about 14 girls, with three of us with the same name. I think it was due to a Deanna Durbin film about the time we were born.
The Oxford Dictionary of First Names says that it is never common, but there are always a few about.
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I am very careful with naming. When my second child was born I was in a semiprivate room with a new mother. She announced that her baby was to have the most original name she could imagine: Matthew. A veteran of preschools, I knew that Matthew was one of the most popular baby names of that period, and the poor kid would have a number or initial appended to distinguish him from the five other Matthews in his class. But I kept my big mouth shut, since she had already filled out the papers.
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Which reminds me of the What to Say when some pucker-faced, squalling thing is proffered for your admiration. My SiL was an unprepossessing newborn and apparently her mother got a lot of My! That is a baby!
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Originally posted by Nicolemr:
I am, at best, mousy and plain. And I'm fat. And I have frizzy, unmanageable hair going grey. And I'm 54. *sigh* I have come to accept my general unattractiveness. Preach it, sisters!
Bzzzt! I saw your hair in a ship-meet photo and it was glorious, like Cher's in "Moonstruck."
Tsk, already the fibbing to try and join our club.
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Originally posted by Brenda Clough:
. . .I knew that Matthew was one of the most popular baby names of that period, and the poor kid would have a number or initial appended to distinguish him from the five other Matthews in his class.
When I was born, that name was Kevin. My parents almost named me Kevin.
Instead I got my given name, which is rare enough that I've never met another. I don't think my mother ever completely stopped worrying about that choice; she used to ask me every now and again if I really liked my name. (I do.)
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Aw Twilight, that's the nicest thing anyone has said about me in ages! ![[Axe murder]](graemlins/lovedrops.gif)
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Originally posted by sabine:
Had no one thought of Elvis??
Seeing as this is sort of a churchy site, how about Sinbad? Sinbadia if it's a girl.
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mousethief
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Is thread about ugly-shaming or baby-naming?
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Neither.
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mousethief
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Coulda fooled me.
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Kelly Alves
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I'm getting the feeling that you haven't read the OP.
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I'm getting the feeling you haven't read any of the posts on this page.
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Kelly Alves
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A small tangent evolved as a result of people drifting from " reclaiming the ugly" to
"What is an ugly (ish) name". I'm sure the Hosts will step in if they feel the need.
I n any case, this was meant to be fun, and if you don't find it so, why not find something that suits you? Life is too short to bother with lame threads you don't like.
Or even OOOOGLAY threads.
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Too pretty. Much too pretty. ![[Biased]](wink.gif)
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Kelly Alves, somewhere around 2003.
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Chop his tail off.
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Ariel
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… and the past few posts have been decidedly un-pretty. Please remember this is Heaven, and if you really want to get ugly, Hell is that way. Thank you.
Ariel (Heaven Host)
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Kelly Alves
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Yes, miss. Sorry about that.
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I have long thought that ugly, fat, and other nasty evaluations of people disappear very quickly when the person is happy and shares their joy.
I spoke to one of in-laws recently who went off to a 40 year highschool graduation reunion (I avoid these things myself). The observations were that all the really popular and hunky jock-men were now fat and bald, married to ugly women with bad teeth. And that the women who were popular and "babes" were the ugly women with bad teeth. That all of the quiet, slightly awkward nerdy types were all doing great and looked great. Their inner beauty had shone through the sidelining of 4 decades ago. Which all made me think that there is a God who rewards those who wait.
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Amanda B. Reckondwythe
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Originally posted by no prophet's flag is set so...:
I spoke to one of in-laws recently who went off to a 40 year highschool graduation reunion (I avoid these things myself). The observations were that all the really popular and hunky jock-men were now fat and bald, married to ugly women with bad teeth. And that the women who were popular and "babes" were the ugly women with bad teeth. That all of the quiet, slightly awkward nerdy types were all doing great and looked great.
That was my observation exactly at my 50th high school reunion.
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Firenze
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Hmmm. How about fat - albeit with passable teeth - and sort of semi radiant?
But I think I would avoid any such reunion, were such to come my way. In fact, the only one I've ever been to was a half dozen of us 10 years post postgrad. At that point in my life I had hair hennaed orange - not red, orange. And I practically lived in a pink boiler suit. So I don't think I was going for conventionally pretty at that point.
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There is a saying that when you're twenty, you have the face nature gave you. When you're forty, you have the face you gave yourself.
Moo
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Kelly Alves
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The problem with that idea is, it bolsters the attitudes of people who evaluate people's worth by their physical appearance. If you decide that the way a person looks is an indication of their spiritual state or their karma, that gives more power to the people who want to be the definers of attractiveness.
So like I said, " But you are not ugly!" Is the wrong answer in this situation. As per the article Brenda posted, the answer is, if someone excludes most people from the definition of beauty, they will find themselves outnumbered by the ugly folk. And if the ugly folk decide they like it that way, the excluder is in trouble.
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Brenda Clough
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We have some stellar examples, just recently, of people who judge others by the most shallow and superficial of criteria. Donald Trump is giving sexists, weightists and ageists a bad name.
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Twilight
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I'm glad he mentioned shoes with white soles twice because, man, no Christian should ever wear shoes with white soles.
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The line where we're told that "people look up to the music ministers," and they need to remember that they aren't just representing Christ but Pastor" says it all. We know who is being worshipped in that church.
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Penny S
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I like the comment BTL about having rules for God to manifest in that church.
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Amanda B. Reckondwythe
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Originally posted by Twilight:
no Christian should ever wear shoes with white soles.
Certainly not between Labor Day and Memorial Day.
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Originally posted by Jengie jon:
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Originally posted by venbede:
Maggie sure isn't adorable for some of us in the UK.
I blame George Elliot in Mill on the Floss for that.
Jengie
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Kelly Alves
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I love you.
(collects self) That would be a yes.
[ 07. October 2016, 03:53: Message edited by: Kelly Alves ]
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Jesus loves me, this I know” of they don’t believe “Kelly loves me, this I know.”
Kelly Alves, somewhere around 2003.
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When I look around me at the people I see outside of work, they are all older and by definition physically imperfect. But who cares? They are all wonderful in so many ways.
You want an imperishable babe, chaps? Get a blow-up doll.
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Beauty fades, dumb is forever-Judge Judy
The man who made time, made plenty.
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Yeah, but even then there are always sharp, pointy objects around the house. ![[Devil]](graemlins/devil.gif)
One time an idiot young woman came up to me on a beach and told me I looked like a beached whale. Yes, she actually said it. Believe it or not she really thought she'd be encouraging me to lose weight by saying that because then she spoke of the fifty pounds that she had lost. Dare I mention that she was still a pretty chubby mess herself by media standards?
Moments like that are when I wish Americans were more like Brits in the reserved temperament department.
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Brenda Clough
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I trust that you had a super=sized iced drink in your hand, to fling onto her.
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Amanda B. Reckondwythe
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"Look who's calling the kettle black. You're still a pretty chubby mess yourself!" would have had the same effect as a tossed chilled drink, although the latter would have been quicker.
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Originally posted by Lyda*Rose:
Moments like that are when I wish Americans were more like Brits in the reserved temperament department.
Nothing to do with her Americanicity/ness/whatever. For somebody to do that in my circles requires very nearly either a major mental disorder or quite a few drinks.
I'll leave it to you to guess which she had.
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Lyda*Rose
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I believe I mumbled "Whatever", and rolled over to cook the other side.
I don't think she was drunk, but she was definitely off-kilter.
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