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jedijudy

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quote:
Originally posted by North East Quine:
This is a computer problem, but I can't find a current computer thread.

North East Quine, I have taken the liberty of reposting your question to the current computer thread!

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[ 16. February 2016, 14:03: Message edited by: jedijudy ]

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In the pub this evening, the TV was tuned in to some obscure satellite sport channel. It was showing an obscure Indian sport called Kabaddi. There was no sound, so I couldn't really work out what was going on. There were two,teams (Mumbai and Jaipur as it happens). From what I could see, one bloke from one team would try and run somewhere and all the players from the other team would jump on top of him. There appeared to be some form of scoring system, but I couldn't figure out how it worked.

Has anyone ever come across this game and can explain how it works?

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quote:
Originally posted by Spike:

Has anyone ever come across this game and can explain how it works?

It's delightfully nuts. It's not terribly unlike games of playground chain tag (in the same sense that rounders is not unlike baseball).

Two teams, each own half of the playing area. The teams take it in turns to send a raider into the other team's area. The raider has to hold his breath while in the other side's zone, and continuously chants "kabaddi" to prove he's not inhaling. His aim is to tag one (or more) of the defending team and get home again, in which case the defenders he tagged are out. The defenders try to grab him and prevent him from leaving their zone - if he inhales when in the other team's zone, he's out.

There's are more rules that I don't think I understand...

[ 29. February 2016, 04:10: Message edited by: Leorning Cniht ]

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quote:
Originally posted by Spike:
Has anyone ever come across this game and can explain how it works?

I've got no great knowledge of the game, but do remember that Channel 4 used to televised it in the mid 90s when they went through a period of broadcasting strange sporting events (tiddlywinks? Championship skateboarding?). I have a vague recollection that you use elbows and knees a little like the ancient Aztec game, but I could be making that up.

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North East Quine

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I have come across a reference to a female scientist organising a nettle collection in the Second World War. The stalks were to be used to make paper, but the leaves were to be used for a secret purpose.

What could this be? Google suggests that nettles could be used to make a green dye for camouflage netting, but surely that wouldn't have to be kept a secret?

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They tried to extract the component that makes your skin itch to use in chemical warfare?

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quote:
Originally posted by North East Quine:
... the leaves were to be used for a secret purpose ...

Soup? [Big Grin]

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Stinging nettles were collected for people to make soup.

Tougher nettles were collected and fermented down because the resulting liquid speeds up compost-making and so was a valuable for use on farms.

Children in the British countryside were paid to collect a whole variety of medicinal and useful plants, and were paid a small amount for their efforts. In fact plant and weed collection was a common in rural areas as scrap metal collection in towns and cities.

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Nettle soup's good.
I vaguely recall hearing something about nettle fibre being used for bandages or dressings- does that sound right?

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North East Quine

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It must have been more than soup, the collection was being organised by someone with a D.Sc in botany, working in a pharmacy lab. Perhaps it was an experiment which didn't come to anything.
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quote:
Originally posted by LeRoc:
They tried to extract the component that makes your skin itch to use in chemical warfare?

Apparently compounds that cause skin irritation are even called "nettle agents". Whether any of them bear any direct relationship to compounds found in nettles I don't know.

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The New Zealand nettle is a small graceful tree, urtica ferox, and is indeed ferocious – it has been known to kill.

As kids in wartime we collected ergot, common then on marram grass (funny, you don't see any now) – was it for blood clotting medication or something?

I remember the whole school going to a river valley to pick rose hips to make syrup for vitamin c for babies because we couldn't get enough oranges.

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We were still picking rosehips in the late 1960s for rosehip syrup. We took them into our primary school for collection. I just remember a big collection vessel we tipped them into. I guess we were collecting for Delrosa and school funds, because I just remember Delrosa rosehip syrup being given to my little sister at the baby clinic.

Apparently rosehip syrup is now being remarketed as a relief for arthritis.

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There is a whole company in the Netherlands founded on rosehip syrup. It started in 1956. roosvicee - rose v.c. (vitamin c)
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Can anyone tell me how to upload photos to the ship? Yes, there are still technological stone-agers around who don't know..... [Confused] I have them on file, but don't know how to proceed.

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You can't upload photos to the Ship (unless you're RooK abusing his administration rights). That function is disabled.

If you want to share a photo on the Ship you have to upload the photo to a photo sharing site, lots of them around: Flickr, Photobucket, whatever, and then post the link on the Ship.

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LeRoc

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Jonah the Whale: There is a whole company in the Netherlands founded on rosehip syrup. It started in 1956. roosvicee - rose v.c. (vitamin c)
Brings back memories.

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Is there a difference (and if so, what is it?) between hand cream and body lotion?

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Mainly water, which makes it runnier. If you look at the recipes for many cosmetics -- lotion, cold cream -- they are very similar. The only difference is the addition of water or oil (makes it runnier) and perfumes, herbs, colorants, etc.

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jacobsen

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quote:
Originally posted by Curiosity killed ...:
You can't upload photos to the Ship (unless you're RooK abusing his administration rights). That function is disabled.

If you want to share a photo on the Ship you have to upload the photo to a photo sharing site, lots of them around: Flickr, Photobucket, whatever, and then post the link on the Ship.

Thanks, Curiosity. I'll take it from there. [Biased]

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John Holding

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quote:
Originally posted by Galloping Granny:


As kids in wartime we collected ergot, common then on marram grass (funny, you don't see any now) – was it for blood clotting medication or something?


GG

Ergot was the name for a particular mould that, at least in medieval days, sometimes polluted rye. (Rye and Oats being more common than wheat for making bread for the poor and ordinary people most of the time.) I don't recall the exact repercussions on the healthy, though there were some, but it became a well-known and used (because easily available) abortifacent.

I don't suppose the latter was the reason you were collecting it, if it was indeed the same thing.

John

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Bread made with ergot-infected grain (flour) gave a skin condition that was very similar to that of the Plague (black death). But when ergot-free bread was provided the symptoms disappeared.

This figures prominently in the novel 'The Eye of God,' which is set in the period just before the reign of Richard III. (Sorry I don't remember the author, but it's a good read.)

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LeRoc

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quote:
Galloping Granny: As kids in wartime we collected ergot, common then on marram grass (funny, you don't see any now) – was it for blood clotting medication or something?
Wikipedia tells me that a component of ergot works against bleeding after child birth.

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quote:
Originally posted by georgiaboy:
Bread made with ergot-infected grain (flour) gave a skin condition that was very similar to that of the Plague (black death).

And, apparently, cases of bewitchment (scroll down to "Salem witchcraft accusations").

[ 13. March 2016, 20:44: Message edited by: Piglet ]

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Adam.

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Art history fans: does anyone know of a depiction in art (painting, sculpture... anything visual really) of the meeting of Dido and Aeneas in Hades? There's plenty of their earthly love story, Dido's death, and Aeneas' entry into the underworld, but I can't find anything of their meeting there. This would just be a 'backdrop' to something I'll be presenting, so not super important, but curious if anyone has any leads.

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Ergot of rye is hallucinogenic.

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Lamb Chopped
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quote:
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Art history fans: does anyone know of a depiction in art (painting, sculpture... anything visual really) of the meeting of Dido and Aeneas in Hades? There's plenty of their earthly love story, Dido's death, and Aeneas' entry into the underworld, but I can't find anything of their meeting there. This would just be a 'backdrop' to something I'll be presenting, so not super important, but curious if anyone has any leads.

Try this: http://hoocher.com/Publius_Vergilius_Maro/Aeneas_and_Dido_in_the_Underworld.jpg

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And another. Wish it had an attribution for you! http://aneidbook6.weebly.com/uploads/1/6/5/5/16551666/523801868.jpg?270

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Adam.

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Thanks, LC!

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I have a brother in the US who gave me his cellphone number, the trouble is I don't know the prefix to ring for International calls there. Is it different if you're calling a cellphone? His number is 10 digits long and starts 323.

I realise this is probably fairly simple, but it's been a difficult day and I amfairly simple too [Roll Eyes]

Huia

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Leorning Cniht
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quote:
Originally posted by Huia:
I have a brother in the US who gave me his cellphone number, the trouble is I don't know the prefix to ring for International calls there. Is it different if you're calling a cellphone? His number is 10 digits long and starts 323.

I realise this is probably fairly simple, but it's been a difficult day and I amfairly simple too [Roll Eyes]

Huia

The country code for the US is '1'. So you dial whatever you dial to get an international number, which I think is 00 from your part of the world, then 1, then 323 and the rest of it.

so 00-1-323-xxx-xxxx

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Wow 13 digits! Thanks Leorning. Now I see it written I remember I used to ring him on a landline - it was just it being a cellphone that put me off. I have had so much trouble with my landline and internet breaking down at the same time that I was learning how to use a new cell phone that I thought I might have to start training pigeons.

Huia [Biased]

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Is it possible to re-use chocolate that has been melted and set more than once? I have a relative who likes to make "home made" Easter eggs for the youngsters in the family. However they always come out as big, solid, hard lumps of chocolate that you can't break or get your teeth into. I thought of trying to re-melt them in to smaller pieces, would this work? Would they still be edible?

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It is possible to re-use melted chocolate and there are ways on the internet on how to do this if you want to go down that route. I did it with some small themed moulds - they weren't eggs though, which do come out quite solid. You won't get the "polished" look from re-heated chocolate.

I did wonder whether adding a little bit of cream into the melt might make the chocolate softer, but I haven't tried this out myself as the small ones seemed to be all right. I will say, though, in my case the chocolate picked up something of the flavour of the silicone moulds, which wasn't great, but better quality ones should avoid that problem.

I also found that pouring the chocolate into the moulds needed to be done very carefully to avoid air bubbles getting trapped and spoiling the look of the thing when it was turned out.

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This question arises from pure idle curiosity.

I was thinking about the fact that Easter falls on the first Sunday after the first full moon after the spring equinox. Then I remembered that in the eighteenth century in the Western countries, the calendar was changed so that the dates were advanced ten or eleven days.

This means that before the calendar change the equinox fell around March 11. This, in turn, would mean that Easter could have been as early as March 13. Did it happen that way?

Moo

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quote:
Originally posted by Sparrow:
Is it possible to re-use chocolate that has been melted and set more than once? I have a relative who likes to make "home made" Easter eggs for the youngsters in the family. However they always come out as big, solid, hard lumps of chocolate that you can't break or get your teeth into. I thought of trying to re-melt them in to smaller pieces, would this work? Would they still be edible?

You can also melt it to have chocolate fondue which is delicious and popular with all ages. [Smile]

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The other idea is to run it through a Cuisinart and get chocolate chips. Why not experiment with a small bit of it, melting it and seeing what it is like? It sounds like you have enough there to play with. I would melt it very gently, possibly in a double boiler. The other idea is to transform it into fudge, or fudge sauce, or something like that. Chocolate shavings or chips, baked into a cake, would look and taste great and I bet you would notice no change in chocolate quality.

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This is a question arising from total bewilderment. We have used the same car insurance company since 1997; this is our first claim. We had a minor accident last week; clipped wing mirrors with an oncoming vehicle. Perfectly amicable exchange with the other driver, who said that he was driving a company car. No damage apart from the wing mirrors. We have (or had!) an indicator on the tip of ours, so our damage involved wiring. We took the car into our garage (main local dealership, part of a small chain), got a quote, booked it in for last Thurs and then informed our insurance company.

Insurance company said we couldn't get the wing mirror repaired until our car had been checked by their assessor. And their assessor is 50 miles away from us, and couldn't fit in a visit to us for a week. And so they supplied us with a loan car while our car is off the road with a damaged wing mirror. Dropping the loan car off with us involved two people on a 36 mile round trip.

WTF? It's a relatively small repair and this is our first claim in nineteen years so presumably they don't think we are trying to cheat the system. The garage we got the quote from is one of the main garages in this part of the world, and is where our car is always serviced etc, so not an eccentric choice of garage to get a quote from.

Why the fuss? The total cost of an assessor doing a 100 mile round trip to look at a broken wing mirror, plus supplying us with a loan car which is worth almost double the value of our own car for however long this takes must be far in excess of the cost of the repair.

Am I missing something? Or is this this standard practice?

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quote:
Originally posted by Moo:
This question arises from pure idle curiosity.

I was thinking about the fact that Easter falls on the first Sunday after the first full moon after the spring equinox. Then I remembered that in the eighteenth century in the Western countries, the calendar was changed so that the dates were advanced ten or eleven days.

This means that before the calendar change the equinox fell around March 11. This, in turn, would mean that Easter could have been as early as March 13. Did it happen that way?

Moo

Don't know for sure, but I do think that the Catholic countries had changed before that, so the date of Easter could have been as interesting as it was before the Synod of Whitby. Before the calendar change, the date was definitely WRONG. If the calendar had continued unchanged, the equinox would have been falling, eventually, in late December. Very confusing.
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quote:
Originally posted by Sparrow:
Is it possible to re-use chocolate that has been melted and set more than once? I have a relative who likes to make "home made" Easter eggs for the youngsters in the family. However they always come out as big, solid, hard lumps of chocolate that you can't break or get your teeth into. I thought of trying to re-melt them in to smaller pieces, would this work? Would they still be edible?

The Guardian printed recipes for leftover Easter Eggs - despite comments that this was an unknown ingredient.


Leftover chocolate

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Question for Americans.

I'm used to seeing the political designations 'conservative' and 'liberal' w.r.t. US politics but lately (this election cycle I guess) I'm noticing the increased use of 'progressive'. From context this appears to be similar to liberal but perhaps there's a subtle difference?

Also is this used in relation to religious traditions too, where there's also been a liberal/conservative labelling?

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Well politically of course, liberal does not mean the same thing as progressive or left-wing (and progressive doesn't mean the same thing as left-wing either). Usually the most politically liberal (in the true meaning of the phrase) politicians are the most right-wing!

In terms of Christianity, progressive seems popular with those who are orthodox/conservative (esp evangelical) but flexible on Dead Horse issues. I probably fall in that category and I do feel that liberal wouldn't describe my position.

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Well politically of course, liberal does not mean the same thing as progressive

You say "of course" but it's not obvious to me otherwise I wouldn't have asked the question! Care to elaborate on the differences?
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As a North American historian, "progressive" also has a specific meaning in relation to two distinct political movements, one in Canada and the other in the United States in the early 20th century.
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Paul.: You say "of course" but it's not obvious to me otherwise I wouldn't have asked the question! Care to elaborate on the differences?
I've said this before on the Ship, but in most of continental Europe, liberal parties are right-wing. Examples are FDP, VLD, VVD …

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quote:
Originally posted by Paul.:
quote:
Originally posted by Pomona:
Well politically of course, liberal does not mean the same thing as progressive

You say "of course" but it's not obvious to me otherwise I wouldn't have asked the question! Care to elaborate on the differences?
Liberalism as a political movement is rooted in freedom, and especially in the 20th Century, the free market. Think of libertarianism as more extreme liberalism and you're getting nearer. Economic liberalism in particular has been a hallmark of Reaganite/Thatcherite politics - hardly what one would call progressive! Liberalism in the true sense of the word would generally disapprove of things like hate speech laws, progressivism would not.

Looking up classical liberalism and people like Adam Smith might help.

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LeRoc

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This is getting rather Purgatorial, but I find it helpful to look at this from the power triangle government — private companies — citizens.

When you take up the label 'liberal', the question is "what do you want to free yourself from"? I feel that this question has been answered differently in different countries.

In most of Western Europe, the answer to this question has been: "government influence". This resulted in a power shift towards private companies (which may very well have been their intent).

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I would agree that the various nuances of 'liberal', 'libertarian', 'progressive' etc are too various for a Notes and Queries thread and could furnish an entire one of their own.

If you wish to debate them further, Purg is thataway -->

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Thanks, this is a bigger topic than I realised. Considering whether to open a Purg topic or not.
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NEQ - regarding your insurance

If you are wanting the repair carried out under the insurance, (ie you don't end up paying for it - presumably your company will claim the money from the insurers of the other driver) then it pretty much has to be done under their terms, regardles of the extent of the damage

Cynical I know, but the more that your company has to do in terms of the adjuster, the car hire and the cost of the repairer of their choice ( tho' you can try asking for the one you want) the more money they can claim from the other company, which then relates to putting everyone's premiums up.

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