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Smudgie - try this on your next of kin. Basically you nominate your own next of kin, so if there is anyone else they've been nominated at some point and the record has stuck, but it isn't something that needs to remain like that and can be changed.

The thing that might be lingering is a right to see records - BMA (pdf) (owly link because the original html address is full of all the things I tell students not to use!)

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Does anybody know anything about how the records of next of kin work in the NHS?

Naturally I have always been the next of kin for my son, but when he went to A and E a couple of days ago they told him that they had a different name down as his next of kin - the name of someone whom neither he nor I would ever have nominated for that role (never in a million years!!!). It came as a bit of a shock to him, and to me too, and it makes us wonder how on earth it happened and whether there is any likelihood of it happening again. Does anyone know? (Or know to which organisation we should complain?)

No idea. The only thing I can surmise is that it may be from quite a long time ago, possibly in a conversation with someone related to the NHS, without either you or him realizing that the answer was going to be written up afterwards.

People can and do get some wrong answers down even when told the correct information, but you can get the records amended. If you want to actually complain, this page might be a starting point.

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The thing that might be lingering is a right to see records - BMA (pdf) (owly link because the original html address is full of all the things I tell students not to use!)

For anyone thinking of accessing it, the link asks you to download and save a pdf. The pdf is aimed at health care professionals. If you don't want to do that, you might try the NHS webpages as a starting point.
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I have a radio question. Is it possible to get LW stations on a DAB radio? I'm a bit confused about what DAB actually is and does, and the internet isn't very clear.

From what I can make out, DAB radios seem to have mostly just FM stations and the ones that are local to your area; I'm looking for something that can receive international stations as there are two I sometimes listen to. Reception on a normal radio is tricky at times so it would be good to know whether there is a better alternative.

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DAB radios that receive FM do so via a separate tuner, and another different tuner would be required for LW. There are some products that have this option, typically DAB/FM/AM/LW, though the ones I have seen seem to be out of stock/discontinued.
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Recently there was a query about "legal name fraud" appearing on billboards all over the country. The BBC have now picked it up and done some investigation, but what it's about and who's behind it is still a bit of a mystery.
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quote:
Originally posted by Ariel:
Recently there was a query about "legal name fraud" appearing on billboards all over the country. The BBC have now picked it up and done some investigation, but what it's about and who's behind it is still a bit of a mystery.

Nice to know my initial assessment of the poster as complete cobblers is accurate.

Someone has money to burn renting all that advertising space.

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Indeed.

The Kate of Gaia website has a section about the Book of Revelation and how it was garbled, but she has rearranged the verses.

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quote:
Originally posted by Ariel:
I have a radio question. Is it possible to get LW stations on a DAB radio? I'm a bit confused about what DAB actually is and does, and the internet isn't very clear.

From what I can make out, DAB radios seem to have mostly just FM stations and the ones that are local to your area; I'm looking for something that can receive international stations as there are two I sometimes listen to. Reception on a normal radio is tricky at times so it would be good to know whether there is a better alternative.

Have you considered getting an internet radio? Friends of mine have one (she is Swedish and wanted to get Swedish radio) and love it http://www.robertsradio.co.uk/Choosing_your_radio/About_internet_radio.htm

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Thanks for that, Yangtze. I had actually thought about it, but don't have wireless internet. ISTM that if an internet radio needs to be plugged in to the pc otherwise, then I might just as well click on the relevant station's radio player and listen while I surf, though it does mean it can't be moved easily into another room.

I've settled for an app on my phone instead which has eaten 32MB of my remaining phone memory (I really wish more apps would give the option to live on the SD card), but is something I can use while moving around, or travelling if free wifi kindly permits. [Big Grin]

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Information please:

Any botanists about?

Do trees shed pollen by the clock?

It is Teak tree blossom time and I always suffer with my allergies this time of year but somehow it is always at its worst from 04:30 to 09:00. I cope with it and I take antihistamines and so on but I am beginning to think some of this might be the tree'so fault.

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No botanist here, but flowers certainly do open and close by the clock (different species, different times). Winds also come up and carry pollen at particular times, depending on your local climate and topography. So yes, you could be getting pollinated by a clock!

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quote:
Originally posted by ArachnidinElmet:
quote:
Originally posted by Ariel:
Recently there was a query about "legal name fraud" appearing on billboards all over the country. The BBC have now picked it up and done some investigation, but what it's about and who's behind it is still a bit of a mystery.

Nice to know my initial assessment of the poster as complete cobblers is accurate.

Someone has money to burn renting all that advertising space.

The New Zealand version is when a group of Maori declare that they do not have to obey the law because the Treaty of Waitangi 1840 gives them sovereignty over their own land. Latest version: police find car with a non-legal Warrant of Fitness (MoT) sticker for which driver has paid $150. Car is then found to be in a non-warrantable condition so they get fined $150 for that and then they'll have to pay to have the car fixed plus the cost of a genuine WoF when it is okay. Once the scam is spotted it's soon dealt with.

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quote:
Originally posted by Lamb Chopped:
No botanist here, but flowers certainly do open and close by the clock (different species, different times). Winds also come up and carry pollen at particular times, depending on your local climate and topography. So yes, you could be getting pollinated by a clock!

Thanks LC - after I read your reply it occurred to me that one of my mum's favourite flowers was Night-Scented Stock which sort of proves your point!

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I know that my orchids with scents only smell in the morning. There's no scent at all in the evening, which led me to believe that the insects they want to attract are out and about in the mornings only.

It's fascinating to consider the many differing methods various plants use to assure their species' survival! I guess they don't care at all about our sinuses or watery eyes!

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I found out from a gardening teacher at a school I teach at that white flowers release their perfume at night, because they are pollinated by moths. Hence why flowers like Jasmine smell strongly in the evening, but not during the day. I'm not sure if this also influences pollen.
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'Sweet evening primrose' are just that.

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quote:
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It's fascinating to consider the many differing methods various plants use to assure their species' survival! I guess they don't care at all about our sinuses or watery eyes!

Are you familiar with the book or documentary "The Botany Of Desire"? Author Michael Pollan works with the idea that maybe plants work to get *us* to do things for *them*. I've seen the documentary on PBS, and it's really good. (Clips available.) Haven't yet read the book.

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quote:
Originally posted by Golden Key:
Are you familiar with the book or documentary "The Botany Of Desire"? Author Michael Pollan works with the idea that maybe plants work to get *us* to do things for *them*. I've seen the documentary on PBS, and it's really good. (Clips available.) Haven't yet read the book.

And I thought it was bad enough being manipulated by a cat. I hope the cat and plants don't gang up against me or I'm finished.

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The North East Man and I visited Reykjavik. In addition to original works in Icelandic, bookshops carried a good selection of books translated into Icelandic. We went to the Public Library to print out our return boarding passes and ended up wandering about, surprised at the number and range of books in Icelandic.

Iceland has a population of 330,000. What are the economics of translating a lengthy book such as e.g. Jessie Burton's "The Miniaturist" or a children's book such as David Walliams "Gangsta Granny" into a minority language? I've read the former and though I enjoyed it, it's not a "must-read." Plus, with children's books, presumably the market is at maximum one per household as siblings would share (and some children would borrow from a friend or a library.)

How big does a market need to be to justify translating and publishing in a minority language? Are there subsidies? How does it work?

[ 28. June 2016, 09:53: Message edited by: North East Quine ]

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quote:
Originally posted by Huia:
quote:
Originally posted by Golden Key:
Are you familiar with the book or documentary "The Botany Of Desire"? Author Michael Pollan works with the idea that maybe plants work to get *us* to do things for *them*. I've seen the documentary on PBS, and it's really good. (Clips available.) Haven't yet read the book.

And I thought it was bad enough being manipulated by a cat. I hope the cat and plants don't gang up against me or I'm finished.

Huia

When you see how they manipulate insects, is it surprising?
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I wrote a story once, about parasites manipulating us. It was, as you might imagine, a horror story.

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Golden Key, I was not aware of that! It certainly puts a spin on what I have assumed my whole life.

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Looking at the author's name, it is hard not to think of nominative determinism - almost.
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quote:
Originally posted by North East Quine:
Iceland has a population of 330,000. What are the economics of translating a lengthy book such as e.g. Jessie Burton's "The Miniaturist" or a children's book such as David Walliams "Gangsta Granny" into a minority language? I've read the former and though I enjoyed it, it's not a "must-read." Plus, with children's books, presumably the market is at maximum one per household as siblings would share (and some children would borrow from a friend or a library.)

How big does a market need to be to justify translating and publishing in a minority language? Are there subsidies? How does it work?

You are not going to find this easy to grasp but they are darn good story tellers. Basically people consume more books because the quality of the stories is higher, which produces better story writers and so an ongoing upward spiral.

Jengie

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In addition to the writers, there must be a flourishing translation industry. What is the economics of getting a 400 page book such as "The Miniaturist" translated into Icelandic and then published?
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I'm not sure how that is an answer to her question [ETA: Whoops, crosspost!]. The economics problem is a real one--we face it whenever we try to publish something for the Vietnamese speakers, which is a considerably larger group, even in the U.S. alone. It isn't on the face of it cost-efficient to secure rights, pay a translator, do the typesetting, proofread, print, distribute, and market books for this smaller audience. In our case the (very) few books we've managed to do have been paid for by grant funding, subsidized by the money expected to flow in from other more popular books in the series (e.g. the Spanish version), and/or done in a cheaper way (let's use a staple instead of perfectbinding!).

But things are different for us, because all the publishers available to us (bar e-publishing) are also in the English-language market, and much more drawn to that. I would imagine the Icelandic publishers simply charge what they must to purchasers given the size of a print run, and also that the average price is considerably higher than that of the same book in English in the US/etc. If all the books are more expensive across the board, readers are likely to see that as normal--which in their context it is.

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quote:
Originally posted by North East Quine:
In addition to the writers, there must be a flourishing translation industry. What is the economics of getting a 400 page book such as "The Miniaturist" translated into Icelandic and then published?

It seems as though mainstream publishers pay $0.10 to $0.20 per word for a translation of something like a novel. So call it $10K - $20K for a typical novel.
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If it is a situation where maybe a tenth of the population will buy it if they charge £10 per book then you have a situation where they make a substantial profit on that.

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quote:
Originally posted by Jengie jon:
You are not going to find this easy to grasp but they are darn good story tellers. Basically people consume more books because the quality of the stories is higher, which produces better story writers and so an ongoing upward spiral.

Anyone in Scotland (that'll be me and NEQ for starters) and of a literary bent, will be familiar with participating in a linguistic subset such as Lallans or Doric. It will not come as a surprise that nevertheless such traditions can have both richness and vitality.
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Looking at the author's name, it is hard not to think of nominative determinism - almost.

LOL! Hadn't thought of that!

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quote:
Originally posted by Firenze:
quote:
Originally posted by Jengie jon:
You are not going to find this easy to grasp but they are darn good story tellers. Basically people consume more books because the quality of the stories is higher, which produces better story writers and so an ongoing upward spiral.

Anyone in Scotland (that'll be me and NEQ for starters) and of a literary bent, will be familiar with participating in a linguistic subset such as Lallans or Doric. It will not come as a surprise that nevertheless such traditions can have both richness and vitality.
It's one of the markers of the differences between Scotland and England that our linguistic subsets have not persisted past the late 14th century as sources of literature. Shame, that.
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I'm not surprised people write books in Icelandic; there as here I'm sure there are authors who write knowing that they are unlikely to make much money out of it. It's the cost of publishing books in translation that intrigues me.

We bought four Arnuldur Indridason crime novels (in English translation) and they cost about £13 each - almost double what we'd pay here. But there is such a splendid selection of books that it seems unlikely that many would be bought by a tenth of the population.

Take "Gangsta Granny" - admittedly much less work to translate. Wiki tells me that Iceland has about 17,000 children who fall within the target age range, with an additional 4,400 children reaching the target age annually. As time goes on, more of the children reaching target age will already have a copy in their home, bought by an older sibling, or handed on from a cousin. Many, perhaps half, won't particularly like David Walliams, and others will like him but be happy to borrow from a library. (We saw several copies in the public library.) ISTM that 5,000 sales would be exceptionally good. Even allowing for the higher cost of books in Iceland, can it be profitable to pay a translator and then publish a book like "Gangsta Granny"?

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By way of a tangent; in the last month I've been to the theatre for a performance in Doric (with another play in Doric coming up); I've read newspaper columns in Doric, and I've used it in everyday speech, but I have at most ten books in Doric, out of a collection numbering many hundreds and I can't remember the last time I read a whole book in Doric. Pretty much everything published in Doric was written in it; the New Testament is the only adult book I can think of which has been translated into Doric, and I'm sure that was a labour of love rather than a paid commission.
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Imagine book buying as people on the ship do was the norm for British culture. I would guess this would up the book sales by several hundred percent.

To match the UK market Iceland would have to sell just over 0.61 books per person per annum.

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quote:
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By way of a tangent; in the last month I've been to the theatre for a performance in Doric (with another play in Doric coming up); I've read newspaper columns in Doric, and I've used it in everyday speech, but I have at most ten books in Doric, out of a collection numbering many hundreds and I can't remember the last time I read a whole book in Doric. Pretty much everything published in Doric was written in it; the New Testament is the only adult book I can think of which has been translated into Doric, and I'm sure that was a labour of love rather than a paid commission.

Continuing the tangent, how does orthography work in written Doric? Words specific to Doric, or even more generally Scots, would naturally be able to have their own 'secure' spelling (although quine is a case in point which shows that doesn't always apply), but would you write 'Whit like?' Or 'Fit like?'?
And I'm used to the standard diminutive of my own name being written 'Jamie' but said 'Jimmy'

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I wrote a story once, about parasites manipulating us. It was, as you might imagine, a horror story.

May not be far from the truth...with the help of cats... (The Atlantic).

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Any Latin speakers out there? How would you translate "You'll never walk alone" into Latin?

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L'organist
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Try this:

Cum ambulaveris a tempestate
Tene te ad high,
Et nolite timere tenebras
In fine tempestate
Illic 'a caelo aureae.
Argentum et calamum suave canticum alauda
Et ambulate per spiritus,
Et ambulate per pluviam,
Quamquam vexationem sufflata somnia.
Ambulate spe ambulare in corde tuo
Et ego non solus ambulo,
Numquam solus incedere.

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Sparrow
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Fantastic!

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Can we have a link to the English words please? (No, not everybody is equally familiar with the lyrics.)

Ta,

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[ 29. June 2016, 17:42: Message edited by: Ariel ]

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Here we go
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quote:
Originally posted by L'organist:
Try this:

Cum ambulaveris a tempestate
Tene te ad high,

Erm, shurely shome mishtake.
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Amanda B. Reckondwythe

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I would suggest the following:

Progrediens per tempestatem,
Exalte caput tuum,
Et noli timere tenebras.
Tempestate finita
Est caelum aurum
Et alauda quasi argentum cantat.
Vade per ventum,
Vade per pluvium,
Cum somnia sint agitata et iactata.
Vade, vade cum spe in corde,
Et numquam vades solus,
Numquam vades solus.

[ 30. June 2016, 13:39: Message edited by: Amanda B. Reckondwythe ]

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Yes.

And I suggest we hand both contestants a laurel wreath apiece, and leave it at that.

Ta/gratias ago.

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Shouldn't it be Vadis? As in "Quo Vadis?"

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Hopefully we will be moving house in a few weeks and for the first time ever we are using a professional removals company (I usually hire a self drive van and get a few mates to come and help)

Is it the done thing to tip the removal men at the end of the job and, if so, how much?

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I would definitely tip them, but since U.S. and U.K. tipping standards are so different I won't recommend an amount. Refreshments and/or lunch (depending on the circumstances) are usually provided as well.

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quote:
Originally posted by Sparrow:
Shouldn't it be Vadis? As in "Quo Vadis?"

Actually I should have written "vades" (future tense). "Vadis" is present tense 2nd person singular; "Vadas" is present subjunctive. Miss Amanda could never keep her vowels straight. [Razz]

Now for a really pedantic tangent:

My Spanish professor, knowing that I am a retired Latin teacher, asked me if I knew why the Spanish verb "ir" (to go), which comes from the Latin "ire", is conjugated in the present tense as "voy, vas, va, vamos, van" in Spanish, but as "eo, is, it, imus, itis, eunt" in Latin. She said she didn't know.

It's because "voy, vas, va" is actually from "vadere", not "ire". Apparently in colloquial Latin, "ire" and "vadere" (which actually means "to step forward") were pretty much interchangeable.

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[ 30. June 2016, 13:38: Message edited by: Amanda B. Reckondwythe ]

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quote:
Originally posted by Pigwidgeon:
I would definitely tip them . . . . Refreshments and/or lunch (depending on the circumstances) are usually provided as well.

I've never provided lunch. I've tipped them $20 each (for a local move), and $50 for the driver and $20 for each of his helpers (for a long distance move).

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Sparrow
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When I last moved about 7 years ago I tipped them £10 each, prices have obviously gone up a bit since then.

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